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	<title>Comments on: Webber&#8217;s fine drive and Rosberg&#8217;s troubles (Spanish Grand Prix analysis)</title>
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		<title>By: Dileep Nair</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dileep Nair</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 12:09:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Button and Brawn seems to be running away with the championships. Barichello is always the unlucky guy though, whether he’s at Ferrari or Brawn. Read my review on the Spanish Grand prix at : http://www.three2tango.com/archives/774</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Button and Brawn seems to be running away with the championships. Barichello is always the unlucky guy though, whether he’s at Ferrari or Brawn. Read my review on the Spanish Grand prix at : <a href="http://www.three2tango.com/archives/774" rel="nofollow">http://www.three2tango.com/archives/774</a></p>
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		<title>By: GeorgeK</title>
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		<dc:creator>GeorgeK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 20:58:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Fisichella&#039;s Force India was faster than Hamilton&#039;s McLaren&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Oh how the mighty have fallen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Fisichella&#8217;s Force India was faster than Hamilton&#8217;s McLaren</p></blockquote>
<p>Oh how the mighty have fallen.</p>
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		<title>By: Bas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 17:14:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is accurate, just look at the x-axis. It tells you which lap of their repective stints theyre in, not which lap of te race. This means that lap 1 is the first lap of their middle stints, regardless of which lap of the race it was when they drove that lap.

I assume Keith did that intentionally to compare their stints lap by lap.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is accurate, just look at the x-axis. It tells you which lap of their repective stints theyre in, not which lap of te race. This means that lap 1 is the first lap of their middle stints, regardless of which lap of the race it was when they drove that lap.</p>
<p>I assume Keith did that intentionally to compare their stints lap by lap.</p>
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		<title>By: maiesky</title>
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		<dc:creator>maiesky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 12:23:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Button vs Webber chart is not accurate. Mark&#039;s line is shifted to the left by 1 lap- finally Mark was on the track 2 laps longer than Jeson was.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Button vs Webber chart is not accurate. Mark&#8217;s line is shifted to the left by 1 lap- finally Mark was on the track 2 laps longer than Jeson was.</p>
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		<title>By: Chaz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 12:14:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Webber&#039;s move on Alonso was classic F1...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Webber&#8217;s move on Alonso was classic F1&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Macca</title>
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		<dc:creator>Macca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 08:49:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great to see the raw data like this Keith. Do you do this every race? If so I need to pay more attention :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great to see the raw data like this Keith. Do you do this every race? If so I need to pay more attention <img src='http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Bas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 13:39:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thats right patrickl, and Massa was probably too eager to hold on to that position which cost him, its just that im not shure how much I would back off in this situation. 

When you dont have a fuel gauge, and your told ´conserve fuel´ in nine of ten races that means just changing fuel mixture. They didnt tell him how much fuel to conserve, he could have thought that he was 1kg short, when in fact he was probably almost 4kg. Also, i dont know how well briefed/practised F1 drivers are on what to do when told ´conserve fuel big time´... shortshifting maybe but I doubt that all of them are prefect economy drivers.
Obviously Massa would be frustrated with his fuel shortage and with Vettel in his mirrors, he was maybe not thinking as clearly as schumi wouldve, so if you know that as an engineer, i think youve got to be as clear as possible about what to do in order to help him out, rather than telling him `You need to save more fuel next lap´ which i think was pretty vague the first few times we heard it. Only when we heard over the radio `youre one lap short´ was it that we got to know the extent of the drama... or did Massa learn of this any earlier?

SO yeah its definitely due to Massa´s hardheadedness, but thats something you need to get to the top in F1, and maybe if the engineer had been more explicit and practical Massa would have understood earlier what to do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thats right patrickl, and Massa was probably too eager to hold on to that position which cost him, its just that im not shure how much I would back off in this situation. </p>
<p>When you dont have a fuel gauge, and your told ´conserve fuel´ in nine of ten races that means just changing fuel mixture. They didnt tell him how much fuel to conserve, he could have thought that he was 1kg short, when in fact he was probably almost 4kg. Also, i dont know how well briefed/practised F1 drivers are on what to do when told ´conserve fuel big time´&#8230; shortshifting maybe but I doubt that all of them are prefect economy drivers.<br />
Obviously Massa would be frustrated with his fuel shortage and with Vettel in his mirrors, he was maybe not thinking as clearly as schumi wouldve, so if you know that as an engineer, i think youve got to be as clear as possible about what to do in order to help him out, rather than telling him `You need to save more fuel next lap´ which i think was pretty vague the first few times we heard it. Only when we heard over the radio `youre one lap short´ was it that we got to know the extent of the drama&#8230; or did Massa learn of this any earlier?</p>
<p>SO yeah its definitely due to Massa´s hardheadedness, but thats something you need to get to the top in F1, and maybe if the engineer had been more explicit and practical Massa would have understood earlier what to do.</p>
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		<title>By: Bas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 13:18:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yes that is well noticed, didnt think of that. Thank Aaron!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes that is well noticed, didnt think of that. Thank Aaron!</p>
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		<title>By: Kester</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 09:24:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Personally I don&#039;t think the viewers KERS display actually worked, there were plenty of drivers pushing their KERS and the graphic going yellow, but not diminishing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally I don&#8217;t think the viewers KERS display actually worked, there were plenty of drivers pushing their KERS and the graphic going yellow, but not diminishing.</p>
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		<title>By: Ace</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 09:02:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Off-topic alert... 
I&#039;d have to agree with Ali, Keith. Perhaps it&#039;s a limitation of the blog you&#039;re using, but it seems unnecessary (for these graphs anyway) to go through another page. 

Is it possible to just link directly to the full size image file?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Off-topic alert&#8230;<br />
I&#8217;d have to agree with Ali, Keith. Perhaps it&#8217;s a limitation of the blog you&#8217;re using, but it seems unnecessary (for these graphs anyway) to go through another page. </p>
<p>Is it possible to just link directly to the full size image file?</p>
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