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> <channel><title>Comments on: The FIA must not let its row with Ferrari become a split that would destroy F1</title> <atom:link href="http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2009/05/12/the-fia-must-not-let-its-row-with-ferrari-become-a-split-that-would-destroy-f1/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2009/05/12/the-fia-must-not-let-its-row-with-ferrari-become-a-split-that-would-destroy-f1/</link> <description>F1 Fanatic - The Formula 1 Blog with F1 news, pictures, video, comment and analysis</description> <lastBuildDate>Sun, 21 Mar 2010 14:22:45 +0000</lastBuildDate> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6</generator> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <item><title>By: Martin</title><link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2009/05/12/the-fia-must-not-let-its-row-with-ferrari-become-a-split-that-would-destroy-f1/comment-page-2/#comment-257075</link> <dc:creator>Martin</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2009 11:07:55 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/?p=20874#comment-257075</guid> <description>1) clearly the people running the current organizational structure of the sport have to go, or the current organizational structure itself needs to go - all this crap tends to prevent growth by accretion of casual fans, thus revenues stagnate...
2) hasn&#039;t the &quot;harm&quot; of single-team dominance already been &quot;corrected&quot;, with 2 Renault championships,  followed by 2 REALLY wild and exciting years, including poor Ferrari reliability throughout that time, and now Brawn, Toyota, Red Bull and poorly-performing McLarens/Ferraris??
3) recent years, including the current season, should be precursors of a new Golden Age in F1, for true fans, for marketing, in just about EVERY way - what happened??</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1) clearly the people running the current organizational structure of the sport have to go, or the current organizational structure itself needs to go &#8211; all this crap tends to prevent growth by accretion of casual fans, thus revenues stagnate&#8230;<br
/> 2) hasn&#8217;t the &#8220;harm&#8221; of single-team dominance already been &#8220;corrected&#8221;, with 2 Renault championships,  followed by 2 REALLY wild and exciting years, including poor Ferrari reliability throughout that time, and now Brawn, Toyota, Red Bull and poorly-performing McLarens/Ferraris??<br
/> 3) recent years, including the current season, should be precursors of a new Golden Age in F1, for true fans, for marketing, in just about EVERY way &#8211; what happened??</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Ronman</title><link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2009/05/12/the-fia-must-not-let-its-row-with-ferrari-become-a-split-that-would-destroy-f1/comment-page-1/#comment-256902</link> <dc:creator>Ronman</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 13:10:19 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/?p=20874#comment-256902</guid> <description>It would be interesting to see if it&#039;s possible for F1 to live without Ferrari. however it would help immensely if Mosley was replaced soon.I have a feeling that if Todt were to become FIA president, things would run very smoothly, we have to remember that as much as he is a Ferrari man, he is a dedicated professional, that has excelled in every job he has done so far.however, if Ferrari does end up splitting and splintering into FIA GT, and other series they will still be under FIA authority most possibly, and they will always clash with FIA at some point.In my case i would keep watching f1, because at the end it will make the most sense even without the reds...
p.s: I&#039;ve been a dedicated Ferrari fan since the 1995 season... (after Senna died actually)but firstly I&#039;m an F1 fan...</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would be interesting to see if it&#8217;s possible for F1 to live without Ferrari. however it would help immensely if Mosley was replaced soon.</p><p>I have a feeling that if Todt were to become FIA president, things would run very smoothly, we have to remember that as much as he is a Ferrari man, he is a dedicated professional, that has excelled in every job he has done so far.</p><p>however, if Ferrari does end up splitting and splintering into FIA GT, and other series they will still be under FIA authority most possibly, and they will always clash with FIA at some point.</p><p>In my case i would keep watching f1, because at the end it will make the most sense even without the reds&#8230;<br
/> p.s: I&#8217;ve been a dedicated Ferrari fan since the 1995 season&#8230; (after Senna died actually)but firstly I&#8217;m an F1 fan&#8230;</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: HounslowBusGarage</title><link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2009/05/12/the-fia-must-not-let-its-row-with-ferrari-become-a-split-that-would-destroy-f1/comment-page-2/#comment-256770</link> <dc:creator>HounslowBusGarage</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 20:09:58 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/?p=20874#comment-256770</guid> <description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Their revenge would make the MacLaren fine seem like a gentle kiss&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Nice phrase.
Do you think therefore that FOTA has already drawn up an alternative racing solution?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Their revenge would make the MacLaren fine seem like a gentle kiss</p></blockquote><p>Nice phrase.<br
/> Do you think therefore that FOTA has already drawn up an alternative racing solution?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: theRoswellite</title><link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2009/05/12/the-fia-must-not-let-its-row-with-ferrari-become-a-split-that-would-destroy-f1/comment-page-2/#comment-256726</link> <dc:creator>theRoswellite</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 15:17:49 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/?p=20874#comment-256726</guid> <description>This certainly is a very serious problem, as one can only take the manufacturers at their word.Don&#039;t think that it is impossible for F1 to self-destruct in the manner of US Open-Wheel racing. That series was at a high point in fan support and sponsor involvement and it all went south when the actors involved over estimated their relative importance. It is certainly possible...only requiring an unhealthy degree of hubris, and at least two of our participants seem well endowed in this area.The goal is having a sport that is run in a reasonable and democratic manner; that is the key issue, and the subject which must be addressed, if disagreements such as this are not to resurface on a continual basis.One can only hope that in the end vested self-interest will carry the day, and a reasonable compromise will result.Please, Keith and Martin, keep us on track.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This certainly is a very serious problem, as one can only take the manufacturers at their word.</p><p> Don&#8217;t think that it is impossible for F1 to self-destruct in the manner of US Open-Wheel racing. That series was at a high point in fan support and sponsor involvement and it all went south when the actors involved over estimated their relative importance. It is certainly possible&#8230;only requiring an unhealthy degree of hubris, and at least two of our participants seem well endowed in this area.</p><p>The goal is having a sport that is run in a reasonable and democratic manner; that is the key issue, and the subject which must be addressed, if disagreements such as this are not to resurface on a continual basis.</p><p>One can only hope that in the end vested self-interest will carry the day, and a reasonable compromise will result.</p><p>Please, Keith and Martin, keep us on track.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Bas</title><link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2009/05/12/the-fia-must-not-let-its-row-with-ferrari-become-a-split-that-would-destroy-f1/comment-page-2/#comment-256695</link> <dc:creator>Bas</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 13:43:14 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/?p=20874#comment-256695</guid> <description>Tony George doesnt want it. Thats why the one year deal for 2006 was not extended</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tony George doesnt want it. Thats why the one year deal for 2006 was not extended</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: CJD</title><link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2009/05/12/the-fia-must-not-let-its-row-with-ferrari-become-a-split-that-would-destroy-f1/comment-page-2/#comment-256673</link> <dc:creator>CJD</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 12:02:56 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/?p=20874#comment-256673</guid> <description>One thing is sure, you do not bluff Max or Bernie. Their revenge would make the MacLaren fine seem like a gentle kiss. You have to be more than half way out of the door before even hinting that you might leave. There is so much money going through the FOG that leaving would appear an easy option.Remember the &quot;Three Tenors&quot; Football World Cup in Italy when FIAT freed Di Montezemolo to organise the event superbly. There are real business men and great organisers in F1 not amateurs as is Max or small time wheeler dealers either. For instance, what if anything has Max created that matches Ron Dennis life work, or BMW or Toyota or Daimler. The list is endless.These organisations are wise enough to create a wholly owned quasi-independant promoter with racing as the prime interest knowing that profits and viewers would follow if governance is honest. If too much bother in the past, Max has ensured nothing but bother if they do not do so.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing is sure, you do not bluff Max or Bernie. Their revenge would make the MacLaren fine seem like a gentle kiss. You have to be more than half way out of the door before even hinting that you might leave. There is so much money going through the FOG that leaving would appear an easy option.</p><p>Remember the &#8220;Three Tenors&#8221; Football World Cup in Italy when FIAT freed Di Montezemolo to organise the event superbly. There are real business men and great organisers in F1 not amateurs as is Max or small time wheeler dealers either. For instance, what if anything has Max created that matches Ron Dennis life work, or BMW or Toyota or Daimler. The list is endless.</p><p>These organisations are wise enough to create a wholly owned quasi-independant promoter with racing as the prime interest knowing that profits and viewers would follow if governance is honest. If too much bother in the past, Max has ensured nothing but bother if they do not do so.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Gary Radonich</title><link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2009/05/12/the-fia-must-not-let-its-row-with-ferrari-become-a-split-that-would-destroy-f1/comment-page-2/#comment-256560</link> <dc:creator>Gary Radonich</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 03:34:34 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/?p=20874#comment-256560</guid> <description>I think that the best solution would be for FOTA to purchase the A1 Grand Prix series and do their own World Cup of Motor Racing. There are aready contracts in place with circuts and more could be added. I am sure that there could even be a couple of races in the USA. I would give Tony George back his race at Indy in exchange for the rights to the Long Beach Grand Prix. With some creative thinking and alot of work I could imagine sixteen races next year, and at circuts where people would attend the races.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that the best solution would be for FOTA to purchase the A1 Grand Prix series and do their own World Cup of Motor Racing. There are aready contracts in place with circuts and more could be added. I am sure that there could even be a couple of races in the USA. I would give Tony George back his race at Indy in exchange for the rights to the Long Beach Grand Prix. With some creative thinking and alot of work I could imagine sixteen races next year, and at circuts where people would attend the races.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: wasiF1</title><link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2009/05/12/the-fia-must-not-let-its-row-with-ferrari-become-a-split-that-would-destroy-f1/comment-page-2/#comment-256556</link> <dc:creator>wasiF1</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 02:44:20 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/?p=20874#comment-256556</guid> <description>F1 is all about Teams &amp; Drivers.
So we can let them go
Spectator don&#039;t need Max &amp; Bernie
Let Tolt Jackie cum in there place.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>F1 is all about Teams &amp; Drivers.<br
/> So we can let them go<br
/> Spectator don&#8217;t need Max &amp; Bernie<br
/> Let Tolt Jackie cum in there place.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Rabi</title><link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2009/05/12/the-fia-must-not-let-its-row-with-ferrari-become-a-split-that-would-destroy-f1/comment-page-2/#comment-256544</link> <dc:creator>Rabi</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 01:14:44 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/?p=20874#comment-256544</guid> <description>I&#039;ve seen so many arguments about what will happen if the likes of Ferrari and FOTA will leave and how F1 will still survive. I don&#039;t understand those sentiments.The bottom line is that most fans of F1 hardcore or not are either supporting the team or the driver. So if FOTA decide to take their teams to their own series then it&#039;s not only the team but the drivers as well who will be going with them.Who the hell would want to then watch F1 with drivers who aren&#039;t the best in the world zipping tracks in same spec machinery? Don&#039;t we already have that in GP2, A1GP, IRL and all the other open wheel series?If FOTA splits then you can be sure all the TV rights and attention will go to that series while Bernie will have to deal with a CVC breakdown and Max trying to explain how he lost the crown jewel of motorsport.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve seen so many arguments about what will happen if the likes of Ferrari and FOTA will leave and how F1 will still survive. I don&#8217;t understand those sentiments.</p><p>The bottom line is that most fans of F1 hardcore or not are either supporting the team or the driver. So if FOTA decide to take their teams to their own series then it&#8217;s not only the team but the drivers as well who will be going with them.</p><p>Who the hell would want to then watch F1 with drivers who aren&#8217;t the best in the world zipping tracks in same spec machinery? Don&#8217;t we already have that in GP2, A1GP, IRL and all the other open wheel series?</p><p>If FOTA splits then you can be sure all the TV rights and attention will go to that series while Bernie will have to deal with a CVC breakdown and Max trying to explain how he lost the crown jewel of motorsport.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: K</title><link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2009/05/12/the-fia-must-not-let-its-row-with-ferrari-become-a-split-that-would-destroy-f1/comment-page-2/#comment-256523</link> <dc:creator>K</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 22:41:40 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/?p=20874#comment-256523</guid> <description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Shame he didn’t remember saying that before coming up with the stupid medal idea&lt;/blockquote&gt;Haha too true.To be honest I&#039;m not convinced Bernie is joking but then neither am I convinced he&#039;s being serious, I think it&#039;s questionable and to an outsider there&#039;s no obvious answer. I thought this at the time. But I do think it&#039;s interesting that Brundle makes a point of asking him and prior to that says &quot;lets have a word with Bernie there&#039;s something I wanna have a quick chat with him about&quot; it&#039;s clearly premeditated and it&#039;s something Brundle has questioned before in his commentary. I think Bernie doesn&#039;t care who wins the championship he cares when it&#039;s won.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Shame he didn’t remember saying that before coming up with the stupid medal idea</p></blockquote><p>Haha too true.</p><p> To be honest I&#8217;m not convinced Bernie is joking but then neither am I convinced he&#8217;s being serious, I think it&#8217;s questionable and to an outsider there&#8217;s no obvious answer. I thought this at the time. But I do think it&#8217;s interesting that Brundle makes a point of asking him and prior to that says &#8220;lets have a word with Bernie there&#8217;s something I wanna have a quick chat with him about&#8221; it&#8217;s clearly premeditated and it&#8217;s something Brundle has questioned before in his commentary. I think Bernie doesn&#8217;t care who wins the championship he cares when it&#8217;s won.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: K</title><link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2009/05/12/the-fia-must-not-let-its-row-with-ferrari-become-a-split-that-would-destroy-f1/comment-page-2/#comment-256514</link> <dc:creator>K</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 22:26:18 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/?p=20874#comment-256514</guid> <description>&lt;blockquote&gt;This leads us into the question of how far the IndyCar split in the 1990s was a consequence of the imperfect unification between USAC and CART in the late ’70s (not my area of expertise!).&lt;/blockquote&gt;My reading of it is that CART split from USAC but I&#039;m not gonna pretend my knowledge goes any further than &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Championship_Car_Racing#Sanctioning_bodies&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;I think that’s an extremely optimistic assumption!&lt;/blockquote&gt;lol If you&#039;re idea of an optimistic assumption is a tragedy then I gotta hear your pessimistic version.&lt;blockquote&gt;Would the regulations be close enough, would there be enough decent circuits, would enough of the big-name teams be involved? And, critically, what would the breakaway championship be called?.&lt;/blockquote&gt;I love that your critical point is the name. Funnily enough didn&#039;t Ecclestone copyright the name F1GP and a few other names around &#039;05? Some joker ;) came up with the name Formula X which I imagine would appeal to Redbull with all their interest in &quot;Xtreme&quot; sport. I quite like F-Zero, or to avoid legal confusion with the computer game F-0. Moto GP isn&#039;t exactly an improvement on Super Bikes is it. I mean come on Super Bikes says it all they&#039;re super and they&#039;re bikes lol.Big name teams? Why don&#039;t we say the seven named in your article. What about if they could produce customer cars? How many privateers would be interested then?Regulations? It&#039;s not about tight regulations its about the right regulations and I&#039;d trust the F1 TWG to make them over the FIA.Circuits? Silverstone, Imola, Magny Cours, Indianapolis, Circuit Gile de Villeneuve, Jerez, Fuji, A1 Ring. There are a lot of other good and viable circuits all over the world as you know and when the current contracts with F1 run out the new series could take at places like Monza, Monaco and Spa.&lt;blockquote&gt;
All these changes would rob the new series of continuity with the past.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Read that statement again and think back over the last decade in Formula One, how much continuity is there in F1 2009?&lt;blockquote&gt;
The loss of fans and sponsors’ revenues would be measured in tens of millions.&lt;/blockquote&gt;That all depends on the media campaign and coverage, the regulations and the racing. Immediately race hosts could pay less and charge less to fans.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>This leads us into the question of how far the IndyCar split in the 1990s was a consequence of the imperfect unification between USAC and CART in the late ’70s (not my area of expertise!).</p></blockquote><p> My reading of it is that CART split from USAC but I&#8217;m not gonna pretend my knowledge goes any further than <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Championship_Car_Racing#Sanctioning_bodies" rel="nofollow">here</a></p><blockquote><p>I think that’s an extremely optimistic assumption!</p></blockquote><p> lol If you&#8217;re idea of an optimistic assumption is a tragedy then I gotta hear your pessimistic version.</p><blockquote><p>Would the regulations be close enough, would there be enough decent circuits, would enough of the big-name teams be involved? And, critically, what would the breakaway championship be called?.</p></blockquote><p> I love that your critical point is the name. Funnily enough didn&#8217;t Ecclestone copyright the name F1GP and a few other names around &#8216;05? Some joker <img
src='http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> came up with the name Formula X which I imagine would appeal to Redbull with all their interest in &#8220;Xtreme&#8221; sport. I quite like F-Zero, or to avoid legal confusion with the computer game F-0. Moto GP isn&#8217;t exactly an improvement on Super Bikes is it. I mean come on Super Bikes says it all they&#8217;re super and they&#8217;re bikes lol.</p><p> Big name teams? Why don&#8217;t we say the seven named in your article. What about if they could produce customer cars? How many privateers would be interested then?</p><p> Regulations? It&#8217;s not about tight regulations its about the right regulations and I&#8217;d trust the F1 TWG to make them over the FIA.</p><p> Circuits? Silverstone, Imola, Magny Cours, Indianapolis, Circuit Gile de Villeneuve, Jerez, Fuji, A1 Ring. There are a lot of other good and viable circuits all over the world as you know and when the current contracts with F1 run out the new series could take at places like Monza, Monaco and Spa.</p><blockquote><p> All these changes would rob the new series of continuity with the past.</p></blockquote><p> Read that statement again and think back over the last decade in Formula One, how much continuity is there in F1 2009?</p><blockquote><p> The loss of fans and sponsors’ revenues would be measured in tens of millions.</p></blockquote><p> That all depends on the media campaign and coverage, the regulations and the racing. Immediately race hosts could pay less and charge less to fans.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: James G</title><link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2009/05/12/the-fia-must-not-let-its-row-with-ferrari-become-a-split-that-would-destroy-f1/comment-page-2/#comment-256501</link> <dc:creator>James G</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 21:26:39 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/?p=20874#comment-256501</guid> <description>I&#039;m no fan of the Cristiano Ronaldos of Formula 1 - a bunch of scarlet clad pretty boys who go off on a strop whenever they aren&#039;t winning things easily, but even I have to admit that F1 would not be the same without them.  But something does need to be done about the sport, which has been spending far too much money for far too long.  Unfortunately, I&#039;m not sure what can be done to allow independent teams to compete at a relatively even level.  If the costs keep spiralling, manufacturers will have to do a Super Aguri/Honda and quit, leaving us with the pinnacle of motor sport looking like the 2005 US Grand Prix.  But I&#039;m not sure a budget cap is viable either.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m no fan of the Cristiano Ronaldos of Formula 1 &#8211; a bunch of scarlet clad pretty boys who go off on a strop whenever they aren&#8217;t winning things easily, but even I have to admit that F1 would not be the same without them.  But something does need to be done about the sport, which has been spending far too much money for far too long.  Unfortunately, I&#8217;m not sure what can be done to allow independent teams to compete at a relatively even level.  If the costs keep spiralling, manufacturers will have to do a Super Aguri/Honda and quit, leaving us with the pinnacle of motor sport looking like the 2005 US Grand Prix.  But I&#8217;m not sure a budget cap is viable either.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Brian</title><link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2009/05/12/the-fia-must-not-let-its-row-with-ferrari-become-a-split-that-would-destroy-f1/comment-page-2/#comment-256497</link> <dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 21:06:52 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/?p=20874#comment-256497</guid> <description>Okay, so if the cap is introduced next year, F1 will lose Ferrari and a few other big teams. If the cap is not introduced then it makes things harder for smaller independant teams to survive. To be honest, I would rather lose Force India than I would Ferrari. F1 is supposed to be the best of the best.
I blame a lot of this on Bernie and Mosely. If Ferrari leaves and they take a few other teams with them, they will likely form their own championship and to be honest I would support them. Bernie and Mosely have too much power. It should be the teams saying what they can and cannot afford to do. It should be the teams that decide what they have to do in order to save money. Each team is a business and business have to independantly develop strategies to survive a economic crisis. Let FIA control the rules and regulations, and let the teams dictate their own business expenses. I want to see the best team win. If a team can find a way to beat Ferrari(Brawn this year) with less money, then they deserve to win.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, so if the cap is introduced next year, F1 will lose Ferrari and a few other big teams. If the cap is not introduced then it makes things harder for smaller independant teams to survive. To be honest, I would rather lose Force India than I would Ferrari. F1 is supposed to be the best of the best.<br
/> I blame a lot of this on Bernie and Mosely. If Ferrari leaves and they take a few other teams with them, they will likely form their own championship and to be honest I would support them. Bernie and Mosely have too much power. It should be the teams saying what they can and cannot afford to do. It should be the teams that decide what they have to do in order to save money. Each team is a business and business have to independantly develop strategies to survive a economic crisis. Let FIA control the rules and regulations, and let the teams dictate their own business expenses. I want to see the best team win. If a team can find a way to beat Ferrari(Brawn this year) with less money, then they deserve to win.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: K</title><link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2009/05/12/the-fia-must-not-let-its-row-with-ferrari-become-a-split-that-would-destroy-f1/comment-page-2/#comment-256496</link> <dc:creator>K</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 21:06:07 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/?p=20874#comment-256496</guid> <description>BMW not rich in motor racing heritage then?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BMW not rich in motor racing heritage then?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: K</title><link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2009/05/12/the-fia-must-not-let-its-row-with-ferrari-become-a-split-that-would-destroy-f1/comment-page-1/#comment-256492</link> <dc:creator>K</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 20:05:24 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/?p=20874#comment-256492</guid> <description>lmao Bas that has to be the best post I&#039;ve read today on any message board on any site. Hilarious! Normally I despise posts by grammar Nazi&#039;s but I think a lecture in etymology falls firmly outside such realms, very interesting and very funny.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lmao Bas that has to be the best post I&#8217;ve read today on any message board on any site. Hilarious! Normally I despise posts by grammar Nazi&#8217;s but I think a lecture in etymology falls firmly outside such realms, very interesting and very funny.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Hamletxi</title><link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2009/05/12/the-fia-must-not-let-its-row-with-ferrari-become-a-split-that-would-destroy-f1/comment-page-2/#comment-256490</link> <dc:creator>Hamletxi</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 20:02:26 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/?p=20874#comment-256490</guid> <description>Id like to bring into question the urgency of cost cutting.   The teams are the ones who decide to spend and they do it because the companies that own them calculate that it helps them make money.   Formula one looks to be doing great to me.  Look at all the new tracks, the level of competition,  its as good as it gets.
The teams have a limit to what they will spend.  When they need to cut costs they will.  Toyota, Ferrari, Mclaren, Red Bull, Mercedes are some of most profitable companies in the world even in a bad economy.  If anyone knows about costs its them.  Toyota is known for effeciency.  Give them 10 years of consistant regulations and youll will see them make it more and more cost effective.
As for getting more teams involved why not have F1 itself have common facilities lower budgets teams can use.  A wind tunnel, supercomputer for CFD, car simulators and rolling roads.  That would save loads of money.
The other questionable assumption is that there arent enough teams.  Yes 26 cars would be nice but i cant see it being better than having the championship decided by one point the last two years.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Id like to bring into question the urgency of cost cutting.   The teams are the ones who decide to spend and they do it because the companies that own them calculate that it helps them make money.   Formula one looks to be doing great to me.  Look at all the new tracks, the level of competition,  its as good as it gets.<br
/> The teams have a limit to what they will spend.  When they need to cut costs they will.  Toyota, Ferrari, Mclaren, Red Bull, Mercedes are some of most profitable companies in the world even in a bad economy.  If anyone knows about costs its them.  Toyota is known for effeciency.  Give them 10 years of consistant regulations and youll will see them make it more and more cost effective.<br
/> As for getting more teams involved why not have F1 itself have common facilities lower budgets teams can use.  A wind tunnel, supercomputer for CFD, car simulators and rolling roads.  That would save loads of money.<br
/> The other questionable assumption is that there arent enough teams.  Yes 26 cars would be nice but i cant see it being better than having the championship decided by one point the last two years.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: HounslowBusGarage</title><link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2009/05/12/the-fia-must-not-let-its-row-with-ferrari-become-a-split-that-would-destroy-f1/comment-page-2/#comment-256487</link> <dc:creator>HounslowBusGarage</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 19:48:37 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/?p=20874#comment-256487</guid> <description>@ K.
Thanks for the YouTube link. I think (hope) you&#039;re right and Bernie is joking. But a few seconds later he answers in response to who he wants to win the Championship
&quot;I think y&#039;know, whoever gets the most points should win the Championship.&quot;
Shame he didn&#039;t remember saying that before coming up with the stupid medal idea.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ K.<br
/> Thanks for the YouTube link. I think (hope) you&#8217;re right and Bernie is joking. But a few seconds later he answers in response to who he wants to win the Championship<br
/> &#8220;I think y&#8217;know, whoever gets the most points should win the Championship.&#8221;<br
/> Shame he didn&#8217;t remember saying that before coming up with the stupid medal idea.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: K</title><link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2009/05/12/the-fia-must-not-let-its-row-with-ferrari-become-a-split-that-would-destroy-f1/comment-page-1/#comment-256481</link> <dc:creator>K</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 19:09:57 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/?p=20874#comment-256481</guid> <description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The fewer cars you have in a race the less entertaining it is&lt;/blockquote&gt;I think that&#039;s misguided belief if you&#039;ll excuse me for saying so, it doesn&#039;t take into account the relative competitiveness of the cars or drivers, the technological prowess of the cars, the nature of the circuits, the standard of television coverage or what people actually find entertaining.Would say IndyCar is more entertaining than F1 because it has more competitors?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The fewer cars you have in a race the less entertaining it is</p></blockquote><p> I think that&#8217;s misguided belief if you&#8217;ll excuse me for saying so, it doesn&#8217;t take into account the relative competitiveness of the cars or drivers, the technological prowess of the cars, the nature of the circuits, the standard of television coverage or what people actually find entertaining.</p><p> Would say IndyCar is more entertaining than F1 because it has more competitors?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Keith Collantine</title><link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2009/05/12/the-fia-must-not-let-its-row-with-ferrari-become-a-split-that-would-destroy-f1/comment-page-2/#comment-256480</link> <dc:creator>Keith Collantine</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 19:08:55 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/?p=20874#comment-256480</guid> <description>&lt;blockquote&gt;It’s all very well saying a team could run on £30m but would it be competitive?&lt;/blockquote&gt;
With the &lt;a href=&quot;/2009/04/30/fia-aims-to-get-all-teams-to-cap-budgets-using-one-sided-regulations/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;massive performance advantages the FIA are offering&lt;/a&gt;, they would be more than competitive, they would be seconds per laps quicker than the uncapped teams.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>It’s all very well saying a team could run on £30m but would it be competitive?</p></blockquote><p>With the <a
href="/2009/04/30/fia-aims-to-get-all-teams-to-cap-budgets-using-one-sided-regulations/" rel="nofollow">massive performance advantages the FIA are offering</a>, they would be more than competitive, they would be seconds per laps quicker than the uncapped teams.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Keith Collantine</title><link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2009/05/12/the-fia-must-not-let-its-row-with-ferrari-become-a-split-that-would-destroy-f1/comment-page-2/#comment-256478</link> <dc:creator>Keith Collantine</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 19:05:17 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/?p=20874#comment-256478</guid> <description>Lots of very strong and thought-provoking points there!
&lt;blockquote&gt;Keith why, as your title states, is this just a fight with Ferrari? You article actually states that it isn’t&lt;/blockquote&gt;
I see Ferrari as the leaders in this - yes, to an extent Montezemolo is representing FOTA, but his legal argument is ground in the agreement Ferrari and the FIA made in 2005.
&lt;blockquote&gt; Wasn’t the “once strong Indy Car championship” also formed out of a split in 1978?&lt;/blockquote&gt;
This leads us into the question of how far the IndyCar split in the 1990s was a consequence of the imperfect unification between USAC and CART in the late &#039;70s (not my area of expertise!). But I think my basic point stands - unity good, splits bad.&lt;blockquote&gt;Isn’t that a fairly pessimistic assumption? Surely there is the possibility that a split could be successful, that it could restore the racing principles of bygone eras, that the teams could make more money and the fans could have a series that is not only more entertaining but actually respects them. I’m not saying it would 100% be successful but then I’m not saying it will be a 100% failure, I don’t know how it would turn out.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
I think that&#039;s an extremely optimistic assumption!F1 is not just about the teams, it&#039;s about the tracks and the formula as well. Would the regulations be close enough, would there be enough decent circuits, would enough of the big-name teams be involved? And, critically, what would the breakaway championship be called? It almost certainly wouldn&#039;t be &quot;F1&quot;.All these changes would rob the new series of continuity with the past. We would have two rival championships competing for the right to be recognised as the &#039;true&#039; F1. And this is where the point about the IndyCar split comes in.Realistically, there would not be a clean break. It would be very messy. The loss of fans and sponsors&#039; revenues would be measured in tens of millions.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lots of very strong and thought-provoking points there!</p><blockquote><p>Keith why, as your title states, is this just a fight with Ferrari? You article actually states that it isn’t</p></blockquote><p>I see Ferrari as the leaders in this &#8211; yes, to an extent Montezemolo is representing FOTA, but his legal argument is ground in the agreement Ferrari and the FIA made in 2005.</p><blockquote><p> Wasn’t the “once strong Indy Car championship” also formed out of a split in 1978?</p></blockquote><p>This leads us into the question of how far the IndyCar split in the 1990s was a consequence of the imperfect unification between USAC and CART in the late &#8217;70s (not my area of expertise!). But I think my basic point stands &#8211; unity good, splits bad.</p><blockquote><p>Isn’t that a fairly pessimistic assumption? Surely there is the possibility that a split could be successful, that it could restore the racing principles of bygone eras, that the teams could make more money and the fans could have a series that is not only more entertaining but actually respects them. I’m not saying it would 100% be successful but then I’m not saying it will be a 100% failure, I don’t know how it would turn out.</p></blockquote><p>I think that&#8217;s an extremely optimistic assumption!</p><p>F1 is not just about the teams, it&#8217;s about the tracks and the formula as well. Would the regulations be close enough, would there be enough decent circuits, would enough of the big-name teams be involved? And, critically, what would the breakaway championship be called? It almost certainly wouldn&#8217;t be &#8220;F1&#8243;.</p><p>All these changes would rob the new series of continuity with the past. We would have two rival championships competing for the right to be recognised as the &#8216;true&#8217; F1. And this is where the point about the IndyCar split comes in.</p><p>Realistically, there would not be a clean break. It would be very messy. The loss of fans and sponsors&#8217; revenues would be measured in tens of millions.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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