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	<title>Comments on: The FIA must not let its row with Ferrari become a split that would destroy F1</title>
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		<title>By: Martin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2009 11:07:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1) clearly the people running the current organizational structure of the sport have to go, or the current organizational structure itself needs to go - all this crap tends to prevent growth by accretion of casual fans, thus revenues stagnate... 
2) hasn&#039;t the &quot;harm&quot; of single-team dominance already been &quot;corrected&quot;, with 2 Renault championships,  followed by 2 REALLY wild and exciting years, including poor Ferrari reliability throughout that time, and now Brawn, Toyota, Red Bull and poorly-performing McLarens/Ferraris??
3) recent years, including the current season, should be precursors of a new Golden Age in F1, for true fans, for marketing, in just about EVERY way - what happened??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1) clearly the people running the current organizational structure of the sport have to go, or the current organizational structure itself needs to go &#8211; all this crap tends to prevent growth by accretion of casual fans, thus revenues stagnate&#8230;<br />
2) hasn&#8217;t the &#8220;harm&#8221; of single-team dominance already been &#8220;corrected&#8221;, with 2 Renault championships,  followed by 2 REALLY wild and exciting years, including poor Ferrari reliability throughout that time, and now Brawn, Toyota, Red Bull and poorly-performing McLarens/Ferraris??<br />
3) recent years, including the current season, should be precursors of a new Golden Age in F1, for true fans, for marketing, in just about EVERY way &#8211; what happened??</p>
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		<title>By: Ronman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ronman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 13:10:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It would be interesting to see if it&#039;s possible for F1 to live without Ferrari. however it would help immensely if Mosley was replaced soon. 

I have a feeling that if Todt were to become FIA president, things would run very smoothly, we have to remember that as much as he is a Ferrari man, he is a dedicated professional, that has excelled in every job he has done so far. 

however, if Ferrari does end up splitting and splintering into FIA GT, and other series they will still be under FIA authority most possibly, and they will always clash with FIA at some point. 

In my case i would keep watching f1, because at the end it will make the most sense even without the reds... 
p.s: I&#039;ve been a dedicated Ferrari fan since the 1995 season... (after Senna died actually)but firstly I&#039;m an F1 fan...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would be interesting to see if it&#8217;s possible for F1 to live without Ferrari. however it would help immensely if Mosley was replaced soon. </p>
<p>I have a feeling that if Todt were to become FIA president, things would run very smoothly, we have to remember that as much as he is a Ferrari man, he is a dedicated professional, that has excelled in every job he has done so far. </p>
<p>however, if Ferrari does end up splitting and splintering into FIA GT, and other series they will still be under FIA authority most possibly, and they will always clash with FIA at some point. </p>
<p>In my case i would keep watching f1, because at the end it will make the most sense even without the reds&#8230;<br />
p.s: I&#8217;ve been a dedicated Ferrari fan since the 1995 season&#8230; (after Senna died actually)but firstly I&#8217;m an F1 fan&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: HounslowBusGarage</title>
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		<dc:creator>HounslowBusGarage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 20:09:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Their revenge would make the MacLaren fine seem like a gentle kiss&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Nice phrase.
Do you think therefore that FOTA has already drawn up an alternative racing solution?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Their revenge would make the MacLaren fine seem like a gentle kiss</p></blockquote>
<p>Nice phrase.<br />
Do you think therefore that FOTA has already drawn up an alternative racing solution?</p>
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		<title>By: theRoswellite</title>
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		<dc:creator>theRoswellite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 15:17:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This certainly is a very serious problem, as one can only take the manufacturers at their word. 

 Don&#039;t think that it is impossible for F1 to self-destruct in the manner of US Open-Wheel racing. That series was at a high point in fan support and sponsor involvement and it all went south when the actors involved over estimated their relative importance. It is certainly possible...only requiring an unhealthy degree of hubris, and at least two of our participants seem well endowed in this area. 

The goal is having a sport that is run in a reasonable and democratic manner; that is the key issue, and the subject which must be addressed, if disagreements such as this are not to resurface on a continual basis.

One can only hope that in the end vested self-interest will carry the day, and a reasonable compromise will result.

Please, Keith and Martin, keep us on track.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This certainly is a very serious problem, as one can only take the manufacturers at their word. </p>
<p> Don&#8217;t think that it is impossible for F1 to self-destruct in the manner of US Open-Wheel racing. That series was at a high point in fan support and sponsor involvement and it all went south when the actors involved over estimated their relative importance. It is certainly possible&#8230;only requiring an unhealthy degree of hubris, and at least two of our participants seem well endowed in this area. </p>
<p>The goal is having a sport that is run in a reasonable and democratic manner; that is the key issue, and the subject which must be addressed, if disagreements such as this are not to resurface on a continual basis.</p>
<p>One can only hope that in the end vested self-interest will carry the day, and a reasonable compromise will result.</p>
<p>Please, Keith and Martin, keep us on track.</p>
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		<title>By: Bas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 13:43:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tony George doesnt want it. Thats why the one year deal for 2006 was not extended</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tony George doesnt want it. Thats why the one year deal for 2006 was not extended</p>
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		<title>By: CJD</title>
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		<dc:creator>CJD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 12:02:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One thing is sure, you do not bluff Max or Bernie. Their revenge would make the MacLaren fine seem like a gentle kiss. You have to be more than half way out of the door before even hinting that you might leave. There is so much money going through the FOG that leaving would appear an easy option.

Remember the &quot;Three Tenors&quot; Football World Cup in Italy when FIAT freed Di Montezemolo to organise the event superbly. There are real business men and great organisers in F1 not amateurs as is Max or small time wheeler dealers either. For instance, what if anything has Max created that matches Ron Dennis life work, or BMW or Toyota or Daimler. The list is endless.

These organisations are wise enough to create a wholly owned quasi-independant promoter with racing as the prime interest knowing that profits and viewers would follow if governance is honest. If too much bother in the past, Max has ensured nothing but bother if they do not do so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing is sure, you do not bluff Max or Bernie. Their revenge would make the MacLaren fine seem like a gentle kiss. You have to be more than half way out of the door before even hinting that you might leave. There is so much money going through the FOG that leaving would appear an easy option.</p>
<p>Remember the &#8220;Three Tenors&#8221; Football World Cup in Italy when FIAT freed Di Montezemolo to organise the event superbly. There are real business men and great organisers in F1 not amateurs as is Max or small time wheeler dealers either. For instance, what if anything has Max created that matches Ron Dennis life work, or BMW or Toyota or Daimler. The list is endless.</p>
<p>These organisations are wise enough to create a wholly owned quasi-independant promoter with racing as the prime interest knowing that profits and viewers would follow if governance is honest. If too much bother in the past, Max has ensured nothing but bother if they do not do so.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary Radonich</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary Radonich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 03:34:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that the best solution would be for FOTA to purchase the A1 Grand Prix series and do their own World Cup of Motor Racing. There are aready contracts in place with circuts and more could be added. I am sure that there could even be a couple of races in the USA. I would give Tony George back his race at Indy in exchange for the rights to the Long Beach Grand Prix. With some creative thinking and alot of work I could imagine sixteen races next year, and at circuts where people would attend the races.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that the best solution would be for FOTA to purchase the A1 Grand Prix series and do their own World Cup of Motor Racing. There are aready contracts in place with circuts and more could be added. I am sure that there could even be a couple of races in the USA. I would give Tony George back his race at Indy in exchange for the rights to the Long Beach Grand Prix. With some creative thinking and alot of work I could imagine sixteen races next year, and at circuts where people would attend the races.</p>
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		<title>By: wasiF1</title>
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		<dc:creator>wasiF1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 02:44:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>F1 is all about Teams &amp; Drivers.
So we can let them go
Spectator don&#039;t need Max &amp; Bernie
Let Tolt Jackie cum in there place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>F1 is all about Teams &amp; Drivers.<br />
So we can let them go<br />
Spectator don&#8217;t need Max &amp; Bernie<br />
Let Tolt Jackie cum in there place.</p>
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		<title>By: Rabi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rabi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 01:14:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve seen so many arguments about what will happen if the likes of Ferrari and FOTA will leave and how F1 will still survive. I don&#039;t understand those sentiments.

The bottom line is that most fans of F1 hardcore or not are either supporting the team or the driver. So if FOTA decide to take their teams to their own series then it&#039;s not only the team but the drivers as well who will be going with them. 

Who the hell would want to then watch F1 with drivers who aren&#039;t the best in the world zipping tracks in same spec machinery? Don&#039;t we already have that in GP2, A1GP, IRL and all the other open wheel series? 

If FOTA splits then you can be sure all the TV rights and attention will go to that series while Bernie will have to deal with a CVC breakdown and Max trying to explain how he lost the crown jewel of motorsport.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve seen so many arguments about what will happen if the likes of Ferrari and FOTA will leave and how F1 will still survive. I don&#8217;t understand those sentiments.</p>
<p>The bottom line is that most fans of F1 hardcore or not are either supporting the team or the driver. So if FOTA decide to take their teams to their own series then it&#8217;s not only the team but the drivers as well who will be going with them. </p>
<p>Who the hell would want to then watch F1 with drivers who aren&#8217;t the best in the world zipping tracks in same spec machinery? Don&#8217;t we already have that in GP2, A1GP, IRL and all the other open wheel series? </p>
<p>If FOTA splits then you can be sure all the TV rights and attention will go to that series while Bernie will have to deal with a CVC breakdown and Max trying to explain how he lost the crown jewel of motorsport.</p>
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		<title>By: K</title>
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		<dc:creator>K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 22:41:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Shame he didn’t remember saying that before coming up with the stupid medal idea&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Haha too true.

 To be honest I&#039;m not convinced Bernie is joking but then neither am I convinced he&#039;s being serious, I think it&#039;s questionable and to an outsider there&#039;s no obvious answer. I thought this at the time. But I do think it&#039;s interesting that Brundle makes a point of asking him and prior to that says &quot;lets have a word with Bernie there&#039;s something I wanna have a quick chat with him about&quot; it&#039;s clearly premeditated and it&#039;s something Brundle has questioned before in his commentary. I think Bernie doesn&#039;t care who wins the championship he cares when it&#039;s won.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Shame he didn’t remember saying that before coming up with the stupid medal idea</p></blockquote>
<p>Haha too true.</p>
<p> To be honest I&#8217;m not convinced Bernie is joking but then neither am I convinced he&#8217;s being serious, I think it&#8217;s questionable and to an outsider there&#8217;s no obvious answer. I thought this at the time. But I do think it&#8217;s interesting that Brundle makes a point of asking him and prior to that says &#8220;lets have a word with Bernie there&#8217;s something I wanna have a quick chat with him about&#8221; it&#8217;s clearly premeditated and it&#8217;s something Brundle has questioned before in his commentary. I think Bernie doesn&#8217;t care who wins the championship he cares when it&#8217;s won.</p>
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