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	<title>Comments on: Have the 2009 tyre rules gifted Button the world drivers&#8217; championship?</title>
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		<title>By: antonyob</title>
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		<dc:creator>antonyob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 08:06:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well lewis and jenson both drove the same saloon car a &quot;star in a reasonably car&quot; on Topgear and Lewis was 0.3 seconds quicker as i remember, certainly he was quicker. But that wasnt the bit that made it special, the special bit was Lewis&#039; time was in the wet !!! Think Mansell was quicker than Jenson as well. Hill was only 0.1 quicker than the fastest non driving celeb.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well lewis and jenson both drove the same saloon car a &#8220;star in a reasonably car&#8221; on Topgear and Lewis was 0.3 seconds quicker as i remember, certainly he was quicker. But that wasnt the bit that made it special, the special bit was Lewis&#8217; time was in the wet !!! Think Mansell was quicker than Jenson as well. Hill was only 0.1 quicker than the fastest non driving celeb.</p>
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		<title>By: trocadero</title>
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		<dc:creator>trocadero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 08:00:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course the combination of best car, engine, team and driver will always come to the fore. Ross Brawn designed the car to suit his two drivers and maybe somewhat surprisingly Jenson is proving bettern than Rubens in that car, given the number of years Ross and Rubens worked together at Ferrari.

Similarly if Jenson was an also rnn taking advtage of a good car, why did Sir Frank Williams sign him as a rookie and then lure him back only to have Jenson buy himself out of the contract? After 9 years he finally has the equipment to prove his ability in the same way that Lewis Hamilton and Fernando Alonso have not become worse drivers. 

I would like to see those three have a test session where they all drove all three cars, Renault, Brawn &amp; McLaren and see who is fastest overall. Sadly it will never happen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course the combination of best car, engine, team and driver will always come to the fore. Ross Brawn designed the car to suit his two drivers and maybe somewhat surprisingly Jenson is proving bettern than Rubens in that car, given the number of years Ross and Rubens worked together at Ferrari.</p>
<p>Similarly if Jenson was an also rnn taking advtage of a good car, why did Sir Frank Williams sign him as a rookie and then lure him back only to have Jenson buy himself out of the contract? After 9 years he finally has the equipment to prove his ability in the same way that Lewis Hamilton and Fernando Alonso have not become worse drivers. </p>
<p>I would like to see those three have a test session where they all drove all three cars, Renault, Brawn &amp; McLaren and see who is fastest overall. Sadly it will never happen.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 15:01:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All this talk of tyre ware does not take into account Buttons excellent qualifying record</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All this talk of tyre ware does not take into account Buttons excellent qualifying record</p>
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		<title>By: antonyob</title>
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		<dc:creator>antonyob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 15:58:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>there will always be an element of a rule that favours one team or driver and f1 one is completely contrived anyway. it has to be as technology improvements have made a &quot;pure&quot; car impossible really since they moved the engine to the back.

interesting article though and it does explain the results but i do think.. so what, if its not the Brawns its the ferraris with their veto or williams with their fw23 techno marvel or cooper with their rear engined v12 killers. there will always be something</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>there will always be an element of a rule that favours one team or driver and f1 one is completely contrived anyway. it has to be as technology improvements have made a &#8220;pure&#8221; car impossible really since they moved the engine to the back.</p>
<p>interesting article though and it does explain the results but i do think.. so what, if its not the Brawns its the ferraris with their veto or williams with their fw23 techno marvel or cooper with their rear engined v12 killers. there will always be something</p>
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		<title>By: wong chin kong</title>
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		<dc:creator>wong chin kong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 13:28:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was Ross Brawn that brings F1 success to Button this year.  Ross Brawn the genious has the vision to develop a race winning car tailored to the 2009 rules much earlier than other teams.  The Brawn car was designed to perform well in any type of tyres, so their race pace would be consistent in every races.  It is just that Button could extract out much more from his tyres compared to Rubens.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was Ross Brawn that brings F1 success to Button this year.  Ross Brawn the genious has the vision to develop a race winning car tailored to the 2009 rules much earlier than other teams.  The Brawn car was designed to perform well in any type of tyres, so their race pace would be consistent in every races.  It is just that Button could extract out much more from his tyres compared to Rubens.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Menon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay Menon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 04:21:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hate it when people say Jenson is lucky. He&#039;s put his time on the test track I&#039;m pretty sure a lot of his input has gone into developing this car, taking nothing away from Rubens as well.

The way I look at it, there a two types of champion. One is a guy that moves to a team with the best car on the grid and win the title, which does take some doing. The other, is the guy that joins a team, grabs hold of his car, develops into a championship winning car. The likes of Schumacher, Alonso, Hakinnen fall into category two and Jens will join them if he wins this year. 

So, is it fair to say somebody who has helped develop the car over the yeara ending up as the best on the grid as lucky? I wonder if it occured to anyone that the other teams just arent as good?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hate it when people say Jenson is lucky. He&#8217;s put his time on the test track I&#8217;m pretty sure a lot of his input has gone into developing this car, taking nothing away from Rubens as well.</p>
<p>The way I look at it, there a two types of champion. One is a guy that moves to a team with the best car on the grid and win the title, which does take some doing. The other, is the guy that joins a team, grabs hold of his car, develops into a championship winning car. The likes of Schumacher, Alonso, Hakinnen fall into category two and Jens will join them if he wins this year. </p>
<p>So, is it fair to say somebody who has helped develop the car over the yeara ending up as the best on the grid as lucky? I wonder if it occured to anyone that the other teams just arent as good?</p>
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		<title>By: Laconic</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laconic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 04:08:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jay has made an excellent point here. With refuelling banned for 2010, tire wear/management will be an even bigger factor in who wins races. Of course, car setup will be an even bigger factor with regard to tire management.

Cars will start the race substantially heavier than most current drivers are used to, and tire wear will be increased for a considerable portion of the race due to the heavier load. Taking care of one&#039;s tires, and having a proper setup on the car, is going to be a more important part of racing successfully in 2010 than we have seen in F1 for a long time.

So, a driver like Jensen Button may have even more of an advantage, considering his smooth and unpunishing driving style.

And a genius at car setup-dare I say Ross Brawn?-is going to be the more successful at winning.

Winning races is all about creating the best result with the given factors, and Brawn/Button have certainly done so this season. Hats off to them, and a word of advice to the other teams-complain less, develope more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jay has made an excellent point here. With refuelling banned for 2010, tire wear/management will be an even bigger factor in who wins races. Of course, car setup will be an even bigger factor with regard to tire management.</p>
<p>Cars will start the race substantially heavier than most current drivers are used to, and tire wear will be increased for a considerable portion of the race due to the heavier load. Taking care of one&#8217;s tires, and having a proper setup on the car, is going to be a more important part of racing successfully in 2010 than we have seen in F1 for a long time.</p>
<p>So, a driver like Jensen Button may have even more of an advantage, considering his smooth and unpunishing driving style.</p>
<p>And a genius at car setup-dare I say Ross Brawn?-is going to be the more successful at winning.</p>
<p>Winning races is all about creating the best result with the given factors, and Brawn/Button have certainly done so this season. Hats off to them, and a word of advice to the other teams-complain less, develope more.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 01:23:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know that these are the best drivers. I know that they should be able to handle to these tires. I know that the teams have to adjust their stratedgy to match the tires, tracks, weather conditions....so on.... but my biggest beef with this is that they are delibertely putting the lives of these brave men at risk by making them drive on tires that disintigrate after only a few laps. They all want to compete, they all want to win, and one day a driver will push his tires too far and get himself and likely someone else into a serious accident. Every team should be using the best available tires. 
We need to stop making rules to artificially enhance the entertainment value and realize that its the drivers that make the sport exciting. They need to be able to get in any one of those cars and be able to compete. 
Optmize the cars and let the drivers do their own thing. FIA needs to stop trying to make up rules because they think that it will enhance the racing. 
These cars could technically only have to stop once per race. Pit stops are not that exciting (unless its a Ferrari pit stop). 
I know everyone is against standarzing in F1. But its time to accept that fact that maybe we need it. The only thing that shouldn&#039;t be standarized is the engines. If teams had a 80 mil cap but they could put most of that into their engines and everything else was simply bought from FIA, then we would see great racing because i would then come down to driver and engine. Chassis would all be the same, except for paint jobs, tires would be same, but the most important thing, the heart of the car, the engine, it would be different in every car. 
Right now, some teams have a great Areo package but they seem to have put more money into that instead of their engine and they suck because of it. 
I understand why people will think that Standarizing would suck but it seems like the only way we will ever see real racing in this leauge.
Way to go to my fellow Canadian, Wickens, on winning the first F2 race of the year!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know that these are the best drivers. I know that they should be able to handle to these tires. I know that the teams have to adjust their stratedgy to match the tires, tracks, weather conditions&#8230;.so on&#8230;. but my biggest beef with this is that they are delibertely putting the lives of these brave men at risk by making them drive on tires that disintigrate after only a few laps. They all want to compete, they all want to win, and one day a driver will push his tires too far and get himself and likely someone else into a serious accident. Every team should be using the best available tires.<br />
We need to stop making rules to artificially enhance the entertainment value and realize that its the drivers that make the sport exciting. They need to be able to get in any one of those cars and be able to compete.<br />
Optmize the cars and let the drivers do their own thing. FIA needs to stop trying to make up rules because they think that it will enhance the racing.<br />
These cars could technically only have to stop once per race. Pit stops are not that exciting (unless its a Ferrari pit stop).<br />
I know everyone is against standarzing in F1. But its time to accept that fact that maybe we need it. The only thing that shouldn&#8217;t be standarized is the engines. If teams had a 80 mil cap but they could put most of that into their engines and everything else was simply bought from FIA, then we would see great racing because i would then come down to driver and engine. Chassis would all be the same, except for paint jobs, tires would be same, but the most important thing, the heart of the car, the engine, it would be different in every car.<br />
Right now, some teams have a great Areo package but they seem to have put more money into that instead of their engine and they suck because of it.<br />
I understand why people will think that Standarizing would suck but it seems like the only way we will ever see real racing in this leauge.<br />
Way to go to my fellow Canadian, Wickens, on winning the first F2 race of the year!</p>
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		<title>By: Macademianut</title>
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		<dc:creator>Macademianut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 22:58:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great Article!   I think the rule of forcing a stint on each tyre is just silly.  I agree that the drivers should be given the best possible equipment and let them race to finish line.

On one end F1 claims to be the pinnacle of driving technology, while on the other, these kinds of rules have absolutely no reason but to simply throw some factor of action for the viewers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great Article!   I think the rule of forcing a stint on each tyre is just silly.  I agree that the drivers should be given the best possible equipment and let them race to finish line.</p>
<p>On one end F1 claims to be the pinnacle of driving technology, while on the other, these kinds of rules have absolutely no reason but to simply throw some factor of action for the viewers.</p>
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		<title>By: Obster</title>
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		<dc:creator>Obster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 20:32:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very good post. Jackie Stewart has always praised Button for his smooth style.

Now, will next year&#039;s no refuelling rule favor another driver the way it did Prost back in the 80&#039;s?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very good post. Jackie Stewart has always praised Button for his smooth style.</p>
<p>Now, will next year&#8217;s no refuelling rule favor another driver the way it did Prost back in the 80&#8242;s?</p>
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