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		<title>By: kimithechamp</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 04:06:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mexico isn&#039;t in South America.</description>
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		<title>By: kimithechamp</title>
		<link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2009/06/03/the-state-of-the-2010-f1-calendar/comment-page-1/#comment-281332</link>
		<dc:creator>kimithechamp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 03:49:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If money talks, give Bill Gates his own GP!  Warren Buffet can get one!  We&#039;ll have the Gates GP on the Microsoft parking lot, and Buffet can get an exclusive Corn-field GP in Nebraska!  Then, maybe we could expand it to Iran.  I&#039;m sure Ali Khamenei and Mahmoud Ahmadinejad could pool a few pieces of silver together.

Money talks but it will be hard to find any without fans.  But we have Bernie and Max at the helm so they&#039;re experts at losing fans.  They say it&#039;s getting too expensive so every year they try to make the cars cheaper and therefore worse.  But the teams are there, it&#039;s the tracks that are leaving.  No one wants to see a bunch F1 cars racing around boring sand dunes covered by empty stands.  If I wanted that I&#039;d really let loose and put a bench in the Sahara, and probably be able to pull it off without bankrupting anyone.

Why not cut the BS and let up on the senseless restrictions.  Get Bernie out of there, let the teams test, use however many engines they need, let em run any tires they want, bring in more tire manufacturers, etc.  It&#039;s a business, if a team can&#039;t compete and find a way to make a profit let em bail out.  Why isn&#039;t anyone allowed to fail if they&#039;re bad at what they do?  

Seems the teams and the tracks would benefit from a better fan base, not more empty more-expensive tracks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If money talks, give Bill Gates his own GP!  Warren Buffet can get one!  We&#8217;ll have the Gates GP on the Microsoft parking lot, and Buffet can get an exclusive Corn-field GP in Nebraska!  Then, maybe we could expand it to Iran.  I&#8217;m sure Ali Khamenei and Mahmoud Ahmadinejad could pool a few pieces of silver together.</p>
<p>Money talks but it will be hard to find any without fans.  But we have Bernie and Max at the helm so they&#8217;re experts at losing fans.  They say it&#8217;s getting too expensive so every year they try to make the cars cheaper and therefore worse.  But the teams are there, it&#8217;s the tracks that are leaving.  No one wants to see a bunch F1 cars racing around boring sand dunes covered by empty stands.  If I wanted that I&#8217;d really let loose and put a bench in the Sahara, and probably be able to pull it off without bankrupting anyone.</p>
<p>Why not cut the BS and let up on the senseless restrictions.  Get Bernie out of there, let the teams test, use however many engines they need, let em run any tires they want, bring in more tire manufacturers, etc.  It&#8217;s a business, if a team can&#8217;t compete and find a way to make a profit let em bail out.  Why isn&#8217;t anyone allowed to fail if they&#8217;re bad at what they do?  </p>
<p>Seems the teams and the tracks would benefit from a better fan base, not more empty more-expensive tracks.</p>
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		<title>By: kyle</title>
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		<dc:creator>kyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 06:15:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They build these racetracks in places where no one has the money to buy a ticket to go to the race. Bernie has to know that the promoters money is not gonna keep these races going for very long. They sound like good ideas but they always fail. F1 needs to stay in europe.

FAIL             FUTURE FAIL

Chinesse gp      South korean gp 2010
Bahrain gp       Abu dubai gp    2009
Turkish gp       Indian gp       2011

We cant find better places to race than this?

Montreal,Imola,hockenhiem,Jerez,estoril,portimao,
USA,mexico,argentina,south africa,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They build these racetracks in places where no one has the money to buy a ticket to go to the race. Bernie has to know that the promoters money is not gonna keep these races going for very long. They sound like good ideas but they always fail. F1 needs to stay in europe.</p>
<p>FAIL             FUTURE FAIL</p>
<p>Chinesse gp      South korean gp 2010<br />
Bahrain gp       Abu dubai gp    2009<br />
Turkish gp       Indian gp       2011</p>
<p>We cant find better places to race than this?</p>
<p>Montreal,Imola,hockenhiem,Jerez,estoril,portimao,<br />
USA,mexico,argentina,south africa,</p>
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		<title>By: NowImScared</title>
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		<dc:creator>NowImScared</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 16:24:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It diesn&#039;t really matter if it does, the race isn&#039;t going to happen. Follow the link on the article about the &quot;official pictures&quot; and they&#039;re nothing but artist&#039;s conceptual drawings. Then look at an actual picture 

http://www.korealifes.com/formula-1-circuit-near-mokpo-south-korea/2009/01/13/

Nothing&#039;s there. 

I live in Korea. There IS nothing there. And nothing nearby, either. No hotels, restaurants, etc., and forget the roads leading to the track. There&#039;s nothing in the Korean media either about this.
 
They&#039;re going to screw the pooch on this one, just like they did the time before when Uncle Bernie pulled the plug after Korea didn&#039;t perform.

I love the idea of Laguna Seca!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It diesn&#8217;t really matter if it does, the race isn&#8217;t going to happen. Follow the link on the article about the &#8220;official pictures&#8221; and they&#8217;re nothing but artist&#8217;s conceptual drawings. Then look at an actual picture </p>
<p><a href="http://www.korealifes.com/formula-1-circuit-near-mokpo-south-korea/2009/01/13/" rel="nofollow">http://www.korealifes.com/formula-1-circuit-near-mokpo-south-korea/2009/01/13/</a></p>
<p>Nothing&#8217;s there. </p>
<p>I live in Korea. There IS nothing there. And nothing nearby, either. No hotels, restaurants, etc., and forget the roads leading to the track. There&#8217;s nothing in the Korean media either about this.</p>
<p>They&#8217;re going to screw the pooch on this one, just like they did the time before when Uncle Bernie pulled the plug after Korea didn&#8217;t perform.</p>
<p>I love the idea of Laguna Seca!</p>
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		<title>By: scunnyman</title>
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		<dc:creator>scunnyman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 05:34:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the way things are going we may see the shortest season f1 has ever seen. That is supposing we have f1 as we know it next season.
We may have a diluted grid as well as a diluted calendar.

We need a diluted FIA and a diluted FOM with the removal of the MAX and BERNIE double act.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the way things are going we may see the shortest season f1 has ever seen. That is supposing we have f1 as we know it next season.<br />
We may have a diluted grid as well as a diluted calendar.</p>
<p>We need a diluted FIA and a diluted FOM with the removal of the MAX and BERNIE double act.</p>
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		<title>By: Chaz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 10:00:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel a Tilke rant coming on so i&#039;ll just refrain for now...</description>
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		<title>By: Macca</title>
		<link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2009/06/03/the-state-of-the-2010-f1-calendar/comment-page-2/#comment-260770</link>
		<dc:creator>Macca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 09:04:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with you wasiF1. We should have a calender consisting of 22 races. 

It should start at the start of February and have 13 races (one every 2 weeks). Then you could have a mid season break of 4 weeks and have the next 13 races(one every 2 weeks). This would have the championship rapping up at the end of November and leave a 2 month break over christmas.

Now before all you critics strat saying &quot;yer but it will cost to much&quot;. i couldn&#039;t give a crap how much it costs, I just wont to see more racing more often.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you wasiF1. We should have a calender consisting of 22 races. </p>
<p>It should start at the start of February and have 13 races (one every 2 weeks). Then you could have a mid season break of 4 weeks and have the next 13 races(one every 2 weeks). This would have the championship rapping up at the end of November and leave a 2 month break over christmas.</p>
<p>Now before all you critics strat saying &#8220;yer but it will cost to much&#8221;. i couldn&#8217;t give a crap how much it costs, I just wont to see more racing more often.</p>
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		<title>By: The Limit</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Limit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 04:27:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To be honest I have never liked the new style Nurburgring and Hockenheimring circuits. I never was a fan of the Hungarian round and didn&#039;t like Magny Cours. The one circuit I miss is Montreal. 
 As for Silverstone and Donington Park, I would drop both and have the race at Brands Hatch. A US gp would be good at say Leguna Seca of even the Glen. A new South American round would be nice, a return to Mexico for instance to rival Brazil.
 The South Korean round is ok by me, as long as we get a half decent show. Atleast give fresh audiences a chance to get the F1 bug in the flesh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To be honest I have never liked the new style Nurburgring and Hockenheimring circuits. I never was a fan of the Hungarian round and didn&#8217;t like Magny Cours. The one circuit I miss is Montreal.<br />
 As for Silverstone and Donington Park, I would drop both and have the race at Brands Hatch. A US gp would be good at say Leguna Seca of even the Glen. A new South American round would be nice, a return to Mexico for instance to rival Brazil.<br />
 The South Korean round is ok by me, as long as we get a half decent show. Atleast give fresh audiences a chance to get the F1 bug in the flesh.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Menon</title>
		<link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2009/06/03/the-state-of-the-2010-f1-calendar/comment-page-1/#comment-260704</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay Menon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 03:15:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Chua,

Sorry if I&#039;d generalized the whole Kiasu thing, I&#039;ve know quite a few Singaporeans who are good guys, but I&#039;ve meet hordes of them whom I just can&#039;t stand, my relatives included, hehehe..so, sorry for that. I bet you&#039;ve come across quite a few people across Tebrau who aren&#039;t excatly the most accomodating too.

The point I was trying to make was that, I dont think there is enough enthusiasm here for F1 to have two races next to each other, same can be said about Korea, India and the Middle East. I can&#039;t really say that I can understand the commercial reasons for Singapore, because they don&#039;t really need the publicity. Everybody knows Singapore, you&#039;re probably the most famous ASEAN country, barring Thailand, for different reasons of course. For us in Malaysia, F1 was a way of promoting country more than anything else, we used to be the country between Singapore and Thailand shaped line a weiner and where people lived in trees and wooded shacks, so F1, commerically, was a big deal.

Secondly, apart from being a night race, I dont think Marina Bay brings much to racing, I honestly don;t like tracks that mock Monaco, which by, I hate Valencia as well..sorry for that, its a personal opinion. Having said all this, Sepang doesn&#039;t bring much either, apart from the physical stress the drivers and the cars go through due to the blistering heat, and of course the thunderstorms, which is great fun. (its doesn&#039;t really rain too heavily after 7 pm in these parts..agreed? At least not regularly)

So, the best solution is..a rotation as many have suggested, I dont mind it, it would be good. The hype in Singapore will eventually die down after a couple years, same thing&#039;s happened in Sepang and Shanghai, spotted quite a few empty seats in Sakhir as well.

No hard feelings mate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Chua,</p>
<p>Sorry if I&#8217;d generalized the whole Kiasu thing, I&#8217;ve know quite a few Singaporeans who are good guys, but I&#8217;ve meet hordes of them whom I just can&#8217;t stand, my relatives included, hehehe..so, sorry for that. I bet you&#8217;ve come across quite a few people across Tebrau who aren&#8217;t excatly the most accomodating too.</p>
<p>The point I was trying to make was that, I dont think there is enough enthusiasm here for F1 to have two races next to each other, same can be said about Korea, India and the Middle East. I can&#8217;t really say that I can understand the commercial reasons for Singapore, because they don&#8217;t really need the publicity. Everybody knows Singapore, you&#8217;re probably the most famous ASEAN country, barring Thailand, for different reasons of course. For us in Malaysia, F1 was a way of promoting country more than anything else, we used to be the country between Singapore and Thailand shaped line a weiner and where people lived in trees and wooded shacks, so F1, commerically, was a big deal.</p>
<p>Secondly, apart from being a night race, I dont think Marina Bay brings much to racing, I honestly don;t like tracks that mock Monaco, which by, I hate Valencia as well..sorry for that, its a personal opinion. Having said all this, Sepang doesn&#8217;t bring much either, apart from the physical stress the drivers and the cars go through due to the blistering heat, and of course the thunderstorms, which is great fun. (its doesn&#8217;t really rain too heavily after 7 pm in these parts..agreed? At least not regularly)</p>
<p>So, the best solution is..a rotation as many have suggested, I dont mind it, it would be good. The hype in Singapore will eventually die down after a couple years, same thing&#8217;s happened in Sepang and Shanghai, spotted quite a few empty seats in Sakhir as well.</p>
<p>No hard feelings mate.</p>
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		<title>By: Chua</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 02:35:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Jay Menon says:
June 4, 2009 at 2:10 am

I cant agree more with Gman, &lt;strong&gt;the race in Singapore was a complete was of time and money&lt;/strong&gt;, same can be said about the Yas Marina track (funny how both tracks have the name Marina in the them). Being Malaysian and knowing Singaporeans well, they’ve been bitterly disappointed from the day F1 was first staged in Sepang, they’ve been trying to get one over us since. Its a Singaporean culture thing.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Woah, hang on now. I understand if you criticise the circuit (hard to overtake, bumpy, tortoises at turn 10 &quot;The Singapore Sling&quot;) or the niggling inaugural race logistical issues (which were manageable) but a &lt;em&gt;complete&lt;/em&gt; waste of time and money? I would argue that we&#039;ve added something to the calender, challenge the drivers in drivers in different ways, while providing a once a year opportunity to see the cars at night/giving out sparks from their behinds.

I&#039;m glad to inform that nobody in Singapore is &quot;bitterly disappointed&quot; with you guys getting the race first before us. Elder Lee admitted he should have let F1 enter earlier, in the 90s, for commercial and buzz reasons, but the general public honestly didn&#039;t care that much. The racing enthusiasts might have been a little disappointed there isn&#039;t a race nearer, but most of them have been loving the yearly short holiday trip to Sepang the past decade.

From both anecdotal and statistical evidence, I would say that it&#039;s been more about holding the race &lt;strong&gt;boosting&lt;/strong&gt; interest greatly in the sport here, which is always a good thing, no? You&#039;ll get more people traveling to Sepang (like me next year), more chances to get to a critical mass to improve coverage of races and all that.

I do believe the two races offer something different enough for the fans in the region to co-exist, and actually help grow the fan base.

We&#039;re not ALL kiasu jerks you know, haha, although it might appear that way at times. I would say, for a vast majority, Malaysia has always occupied a large, warm and fuzzy part of our hearts, since we all have ties there, and living there is so much more desirable than here. We probably don&#039;t visit as much, but that&#039;s more down to JB&#039;s crime rate though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Jay Menon says:<br />
June 4, 2009 at 2:10 am</p>
<p>I cant agree more with Gman, <strong>the race in Singapore was a complete was of time and money</strong>, same can be said about the Yas Marina track (funny how both tracks have the name Marina in the them). Being Malaysian and knowing Singaporeans well, they’ve been bitterly disappointed from the day F1 was first staged in Sepang, they’ve been trying to get one over us since. Its a Singaporean culture thing.</p></blockquote>
<p>Woah, hang on now. I understand if you criticise the circuit (hard to overtake, bumpy, tortoises at turn 10 &#8220;The Singapore Sling&#8221;) or the niggling inaugural race logistical issues (which were manageable) but a <em>complete</em> waste of time and money? I would argue that we&#8217;ve added something to the calender, challenge the drivers in drivers in different ways, while providing a once a year opportunity to see the cars at night/giving out sparks from their behinds.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m glad to inform that nobody in Singapore is &#8220;bitterly disappointed&#8221; with you guys getting the race first before us. Elder Lee admitted he should have let F1 enter earlier, in the 90s, for commercial and buzz reasons, but the general public honestly didn&#8217;t care that much. The racing enthusiasts might have been a little disappointed there isn&#8217;t a race nearer, but most of them have been loving the yearly short holiday trip to Sepang the past decade.</p>
<p>From both anecdotal and statistical evidence, I would say that it&#8217;s been more about holding the race <strong>boosting</strong> interest greatly in the sport here, which is always a good thing, no? You&#8217;ll get more people traveling to Sepang (like me next year), more chances to get to a critical mass to improve coverage of races and all that.</p>
<p>I do believe the two races offer something different enough for the fans in the region to co-exist, and actually help grow the fan base.</p>
<p>We&#8217;re not ALL kiasu jerks you know, haha, although it might appear that way at times. I would say, for a vast majority, Malaysia has always occupied a large, warm and fuzzy part of our hearts, since we all have ties there, and living there is so much more desirable than here. We probably don&#8217;t visit as much, but that&#8217;s more down to JB&#8217;s crime rate though.</p>
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