Comments on: F1 links: Ecclestone warns FOTA over split

By: Achilles

Achilles — Fri, 12 Jun 2009 18:27:36 +0000

I f Bernie ties them up in court, Ferrari won’t have the money to be in another series…

By: DGR-F1

DGR-F1 — Fri, 12 Jun 2009 07:26:25 +0000

So are these engines being counted as Ferrari’s eight or STR’s eight?
If STR manage to blow up a Ferrari engine, will they get the penalty? That sounds like dirty tricks to me……

By: persempre

persempre — Thu, 11 Jun 2009 20:47:02 +0000

That`s what I was meaning, Chaz.
Sorry I forgot to end block quote in my previous reply

By: persempre

persempre — Thu, 11 Jun 2009 20:38:45 +0000

Indeed and the teams always feedback information and data to the engine suppliers on a whole range of technical and performance issues etc. Therefore they are getting additional ‘testing’ data…”

but surely the same could be said of Brawn & Mercedes or between any customer team & its’ engine supplier.
The only problem I can see is, as the article says, deterioration but that`s a matter between Ferrari & STR.

By: Chaz

Chaz — Thu, 11 Jun 2009 20:34:57 +0000

And yes one could even say the same about Toyota and Mercedes…

By: Chaz

Chaz — Thu, 11 Jun 2009 20:17:04 +0000

Indeed and the teams always feedback information and data to the engine suppliers on a whole range of technical and performance issues etc. Therefore they are getting additional ‘testing’ data…

By: persempre

persempre — Thu, 11 Jun 2009 20:01:43 +0000

Could this be interpreted as more dishonesty by Ferrari sliding around the spirit of the rules.

Not sure how anyone can interpret that as Ferrari being dishonest.
Ferrari supply STR with engines & STR have to abide by the same engine rules as everyone else.
The fact that the engines are long life is what the extended engine life rule is all about surely?

By: Chaz

Chaz — Thu, 11 Jun 2009 18:59:44 +0000

It is almost confirmed now that the Scuderia Ferrari have been using Toro Rosso to test their engine reliability throughout the course of a Grand Prix weekend. Germany’s ‘Auto Motor und Sport’ has reported that STR uses long life Ferrari engines during the Friday practices, having clocked around 2,500 km’s up until then.

Could this be interpreted as more dishonesty by Ferrari sliding around the spirit of the rules.

Ross Brawn may talk about sponsors being unnerved by the FIA FOTA crisis, but I’d be surprised if that includes Richard Branson as he believe all publicity is good publicity…

By: Bigbadderboom

Bigbadderboom — Thu, 11 Jun 2009 17:19:12 +0000

Bernie seems to be making a lot of noise for somebody who states he is confident of his legal postion. I wonder how the partners at CVC are viewing this, F1 is a wholly owned CVC investment and these guys do not muck about when it comes to their investments. I think Bernie is feeling more heat than he is giving, F1 without Ferrari would see global audiences tumble and questions would be asked about the validity of the content he is delivering to the TV rights holders, who would see their own advertising revenue deteorate as audiances fall away (obviousley except BBC who would face their own problems from the boards that protect license payers).
For me the biggest irony is that in the end it will prove that Max is bad for Bernie, Max’s insistence on interfering with F1 affairs and aggrevate teams, detroying relationships that Bernie has spent so long nurturing, may yet cost Bernie dearly.
I hope they sort this, I want Ferrari and all competing with the best drivers at the pinnacle of motorsport, I don’t want a watered down, faded version with jumped up GP2/F3 teams.

By: persempre

persempre — Thu, 11 Jun 2009 16:43:56 +0000

To be fair it is a charity event not a race.
You can`t really race round a track laid out in a football/athletic stadium.
It hasn`t been a real race since it stopped being held on circuits.
I can remember seeing one at Brands Hatch many years ago. The current format is nothing like the old Race of Champions but it sin`t intended to be.