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	<title>Comments on: FIA and FOTA remain deadlocked on F1 governance and budget cap</title>
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		<title>By: Ronman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ronman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 06:41:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With all Due respect Keith, i didn&#039;t bother reading the post, as I&#039;m really sick of this dilemma...

Although i have respect for both Fota and Mosley, i think ultimately, the deadlock is solely for the redistribution of the earnings. For Carlos Ghosn to bluntly go out in public and say we need to get more of the pie summarises everything. 

when the economy was well and automakers were making money no one really cared that Ecclestone was reeling in the dineros, now that the Proverbial S**t hit the Fan(no pun intended),everyone wants in... and Both Mosley and Ecclestone don&#039;t want that to happen. 

i understand their reasoning, why do you want more of our money, with lower costs, you wont need that extra 100 million because you will be cutting 400 million in costs (Ferrari&#039;s case). 

in any case, i have a feeling this will end in one of two ways. FIA bends over and gives Fota what they want for the sake of the show, OR which i think will happen, FOTA will split, the FIA will carry on with F1 and a bunch of new teams. sue the FOTA members for breaching contract take millions out of their accounts. FOTA will try to establish a split run series, but FIA will not make it easy. hence a new F1 Era will emerge.... and the de-restricted Formula X we all dream of will be gone for good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With all Due respect Keith, i didn&#8217;t bother reading the post, as I&#8217;m really sick of this dilemma&#8230;</p>
<p>Although i have respect for both Fota and Mosley, i think ultimately, the deadlock is solely for the redistribution of the earnings. For Carlos Ghosn to bluntly go out in public and say we need to get more of the pie summarises everything. </p>
<p>when the economy was well and automakers were making money no one really cared that Ecclestone was reeling in the dineros, now that the Proverbial S**t hit the Fan(no pun intended),everyone wants in&#8230; and Both Mosley and Ecclestone don&#8217;t want that to happen. </p>
<p>i understand their reasoning, why do you want more of our money, with lower costs, you wont need that extra 100 million because you will be cutting 400 million in costs (Ferrari&#8217;s case). </p>
<p>in any case, i have a feeling this will end in one of two ways. FIA bends over and gives Fota what they want for the sake of the show, OR which i think will happen, FOTA will split, the FIA will carry on with F1 and a bunch of new teams. sue the FOTA members for breaching contract take millions out of their accounts. FOTA will try to establish a split run series, but FIA will not make it easy. hence a new F1 Era will emerge&#8230;. and the de-restricted Formula X we all dream of will be gone for good.</p>
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		<title>By: F1Fan</title>
		<link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2009/06/13/fia-and-fota-remain-deadlocked-on-f1-governance-and-budget-cap/comment-page-2/#comment-263096</link>
		<dc:creator>F1Fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 15:43:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The hell with Mosley and the FIA. The teams make the racing. F1 should remain about the best drivers and technology. And that can only come from the manufacturers. And while we are on this, the FIA has royally screwed up several key decisions on regulations, venue selection, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The hell with Mosley and the FIA. The teams make the racing. F1 should remain about the best drivers and technology. And that can only come from the manufacturers. And while we are on this, the FIA has royally screwed up several key decisions on regulations, venue selection, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Keith Collantine</title>
		<link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2009/06/13/fia-and-fota-remain-deadlocked-on-f1-governance-and-budget-cap/comment-page-2/#comment-263041</link>
		<dc:creator>Keith Collantine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 10:40:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;With claws sunk deep in legal writ.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Yeah, sounds like F1.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>With claws sunk deep in legal writ.</p></blockquote>
<p>Yeah, sounds like F1.</p>
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		<title>By: VXR</title>
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		<dc:creator>VXR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 00:55:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I’m looking forward to seeing who’s still standing at the beginning of round two on the 19th…&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Someone is definitely going to be bringing out the big guns on that day I can tell you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I’m looking forward to seeing who’s still standing at the beginning of round two on the 19th…</p></blockquote>
<p>Someone is definitely going to be bringing out the big guns on that day I can tell you!</p>
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		<title>By: VXR</title>
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		<dc:creator>VXR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 00:46:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Or, to put it another way, might Prodrive and Lola be persuaded to compete in a potential FOTA championship?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Why would they want to spend more money on not being in Formula One ?

I think that the FIA held them back to say: Look,if you think that there are only three new teams capable of coming into F1 then you&#039;d better think again!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Or, to put it another way, might Prodrive and Lola be persuaded to compete in a potential FOTA championship?</p></blockquote>
<p>Why would they want to spend more money on not being in Formula One ?</p>
<p>I think that the FIA held them back to say: Look,if you think that there are only three new teams capable of coming into F1 then you&#8217;d better think again!</p>
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		<title>By: VXR</title>
		<link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2009/06/13/fia-and-fota-remain-deadlocked-on-f1-governance-and-budget-cap/comment-page-2/#comment-262978</link>
		<dc:creator>VXR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 00:36:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Got a source for that, VXR?
I`ve never heard FOTA discuss the topic of who in future should or should not be admitted.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

My source is at Le Mans at the mo,I&#039;ll be getting an update fairly soon though.

How he laughed when &#039;Monty&#039; said that &quot;Ferrari&#039;s heart and soul are with F1&quot; Enzo must be turning in his grave.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Got a source for that, VXR?<br />
I`ve never heard FOTA discuss the topic of who in future should or should not be admitted.</p></blockquote>
<p>My source is at Le Mans at the mo,I&#8217;ll be getting an update fairly soon though.</p>
<p>How he laughed when &#8216;Monty&#8217; said that &#8220;Ferrari&#8217;s heart and soul are with F1&#8243; Enzo must be turning in his grave.</p>
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		<title>By: Chaz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 18:44:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m looking forward to seeing who&#039;s still standing at the beginning of round two on the 19th...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m looking forward to seeing who&#8217;s still standing at the beginning of round two on the 19th&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Xibi</title>
		<link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2009/06/13/fia-and-fota-remain-deadlocked-on-f1-governance-and-budget-cap/comment-page-2/#comment-262903</link>
		<dc:creator>Xibi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 18:01:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With the way things currently are, a split would be the best thing.

But since when Formula 1 and Cost cutting started going together. They are an oxymoron as much as saying Fernando Alonso enjoyed his time at McLaren. Cost cutting and Formula One simply don&#039;t go together. If they did, we wouldn&#039;t have the inventions we have today and I can safely assume that some commodities in our lives wouldn&#039;t exist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With the way things currently are, a split would be the best thing.</p>
<p>But since when Formula 1 and Cost cutting started going together. They are an oxymoron as much as saying Fernando Alonso enjoyed his time at McLaren. Cost cutting and Formula One simply don&#8217;t go together. If they did, we wouldn&#8217;t have the inventions we have today and I can safely assume that some commodities in our lives wouldn&#8217;t exist.</p>
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		<title>By: theRoswellite</title>
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		<dc:creator>theRoswellite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 18:01:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Only one problem really...the Berniemax.  In this case the Second head seems to have seriously gone astray.  

My apologies for any French diction errors.

OUR TWO HEADED MONSTER

From open beak one tongue extending
  Repeats in call the shriek pretending,
“I am the law, I am the ending,
  I have your heart, I have your spending.”

L’etat c’est  moi.

While the second head in tilt displays
An eye transfixed in stolid gaze,
Upon the knot where it doth sit
With claws sunk deep in legal writ.

L’etat c’est moi.

This bird of body girth unending
Can only flop in flight pretending.
While it’s two heads on necks entwined,
Spin round about, unravel then rewind.

L’etat c’est moi.

Is this our future, this our past,
To stand forever with pleas held fast,
And our reward, just duff and feather dander
Falling from our own, this Uber-Overlander.

L’etat c’est moi.

“THE STATE, IT IS I.”</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Only one problem really&#8230;the Berniemax.  In this case the Second head seems to have seriously gone astray.  </p>
<p>My apologies for any French diction errors.</p>
<p>OUR TWO HEADED MONSTER</p>
<p>From open beak one tongue extending<br />
  Repeats in call the shriek pretending,<br />
“I am the law, I am the ending,<br />
  I have your heart, I have your spending.”</p>
<p>L’etat c’est  moi.</p>
<p>While the second head in tilt displays<br />
An eye transfixed in stolid gaze,<br />
Upon the knot where it doth sit<br />
With claws sunk deep in legal writ.</p>
<p>L’etat c’est moi.</p>
<p>This bird of body girth unending<br />
Can only flop in flight pretending.<br />
While it’s two heads on necks entwined,<br />
Spin round about, unravel then rewind.</p>
<p>L’etat c’est moi.</p>
<p>Is this our future, this our past,<br />
To stand forever with pleas held fast,<br />
And our reward, just duff and feather dander<br />
Falling from our own, this Uber-Overlander.</p>
<p>L’etat c’est moi.</p>
<p>“THE STATE, IT IS I.”</p>
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		<title>By: Keith Collantine</title>
		<link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2009/06/13/fia-and-fota-remain-deadlocked-on-f1-governance-and-budget-cap/comment-page-2/#comment-262901</link>
		<dc:creator>Keith Collantine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 18:00:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another thought on why the FIA picked Campos, USF1 and Manor to be promoted. Manor boss John Booth said in an interview:
&lt;blockquote&gt;It&#039;s really the budget cap that&#039;s enabled us and other new teams to come in and compete.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Did the FIA prefer to promote the new teams that would need the budget cap to compete, rather than those who might need only need a cost reduction of the order promised by FOTA?

Or, to put it another way, might Prodrive and Lola be persuaded to compete in a potential FOTA championship?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another thought on why the FIA picked Campos, USF1 and Manor to be promoted. Manor boss John Booth said in an interview:</p>
<blockquote><p>It&#8217;s really the budget cap that&#8217;s enabled us and other new teams to come in and compete.</p></blockquote>
<p>Did the FIA prefer to promote the new teams that would need the budget cap to compete, rather than those who might need only need a cost reduction of the order promised by FOTA?</p>
<p>Or, to put it another way, might Prodrive and Lola be persuaded to compete in a potential FOTA championship?</p>
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