Your questions: pit TVs and car numbers

The only good thing about the Honda RA107 was its large numbers

The only good thing about the Honda RA107 was its large numbers

It’s time to tackle another crop of your questions. Today we have queries about drivers who left their teams after winning the world championship, pit TVs, and how to get work at the Abu Dhabu Grand Prix.

Plus, is there really a road named after Jenson Button?

Car numbers

We had some questions about number two drivers last time round – now SonyJunkie wants to know about ones and zeroes:

Is Nigel Mansell the only F1 world champion to have never raced (in F1) with a “1” on his car?

To answer the first question: no. Two other drivers won the championship but never started a race with the coveted number one on their cars, and both are tragic tales.

This first was Mike Hawthorn, who retired from Grand Prix racing after winning the 1958 world championship, and was killed in a road accident in January 1959. The second was Jochen Rindt. Rindt has the sad distinction of being the only driver to win the championship posthumously – he was leading the title race when he was killed at Monza in 1970.

Ther are 22 drivers to have started rounds that counted towards the world championship in cars bearing the number one who never won the world championship. Many of these were American drivers contesting the Indianapolis 500, when it counted towards the title from 1950-1960.

The most recent non-champion to use the number one was John Watson, substituting for the injured reigning champion Niki Lauda in the 1985 European Grand Prix at Brands Hatch. At the first ever world championship race – at which there was of course no reigning championship, the number one car was driven by Juan Manuel Fangio. Which, as things turned out, was entirely appropriate.

SonyJunkie also asks:

Are Williams the team with the most world champions to their name that didn’t race for them the next season and so not have the number “1” on a Williams? i.e. 1987 Nelson Piquet went to Lotus, 1992 Nigel Mansell went to CART, 1993 Alain Prost retired, 1996 Damon Hill went to Arrows (well he was sacked by Williams!!) etc…

He’s quite right to single out Williams for the unusual distinction of failing to retain champion drivers. Here’s a list of teams that failed to in recent years:

2007 – Renault (Fernando Alonso joined McLaren)
1997 – Willians (Damon Hill joined Arrows)
1996 – Benetton (Michael Schumacher joined Ferrari)
1994 – Williams (Alain Prost retired)
1993 – Williams (Nigel Mansell retired)
1990 – McLaren (Alain Prost joined Ferrari)
1988 – Williams (Nelson Piquet joined Lotus)
1978 – Ferrari (Niki Lauda joined Brabham)
1974 – Tyrrell (Jackie Stewart retired)

In the early seventies and before the practice of assigned driver numbers was less rigid. For example Emerson Fittipaldi started ti 1973 season as reigning champion, but used number two in the first round and number one thereafter.

In 1974 although Tyrrell’s Jackie Stewart won the drivers’ championship the previous year, the team used numbers three and four while Lotus, the reigning constructors’ champions, had one and two.

Staying with car numbers, David wants to know:

Why is it not mandated that the numbers on a race car must be of a certain size and more legible?

I for one miss the large numbers that used to be on cars during the sixties and before. It made it very easy to determine who was driving. F1 is looking to build viewership, a small change like this will help.

Here’s what the rules say about car number sizes:

Each car will carry the race number of its driver (or his replacement) as published by the FIA at the beginning of the season. This number must be clearly visible from the front of the car.
2009 F1 Sporting Regulations Article 21.2

No size is specified. To be honest, the most likely reason for this is so the teams have more room for advertising. And the FIA do mandate an easy way to tell the drivers apart:

In order that the cars of each team may be easily distinguished from one another whilst they are on the track, the on board cameras located above the principle roll structure of the first car must be predominantly fluorescent red and the second car fluorescent yellow.
2009 F1 Sporting Regulations Article 21.1

The ‘first car’ is the lowest-numbered car. You can check the numbers for the 2990 cars here: 2009 F1 drivers and teams

Jenson Button street?

Ed Horan has been to Jenson Button’s stomping ground and asks:

Visited Jenson’s hometown, Frome, recently and accidentally came across a small street named “Button Street”. Would be interested to know why it is so called?

Sure enough, here it is:


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I doubt it’s named after him as it doesn’t include his first name, but I could be wrong.

There are other roads named after F1 drivers in Britain including Ayrton Senna Road in Reading. If you know of any others, please post details below.

Working at the Abu Dhabi Grand Prix

A very interesting question from Vinod Kumar:

Hi I am working in Sheikh Khalifa Medical City as a radiographer in the deptartment of radiology. I have basic life support. I want to be a part of the fF1 Abu Dhabi Gmedical team. Can u give me the contact no or mail id or instruct me how to apply for it?

My first stop would be the Yas Island Marina website – get in touch with them and they should be able to point you in the right direction. Do let us know how it goes Vinod!

TV in the pits

Last up is H K Idris who wants to know:

Could you please clarify what is lowered on to the drivers (TV screen-like) whenever they are parked in their garages in the pits? Especially during free-practice or qualifiers? What is it & what do the drivers use/need it for?

These monitors give drivers access to various bits of information. They can view detailed time screens similar to the live timing displays we see via F1.com, with breakdowns of their laps and their rivals, sector-by-sector. They can also watch live television pictures – you often see them using a remote control to change the screen view.

Send in your questions – and answers

If you can help add to any of these answers please post a comment below.

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47 comments on Your questions: pit TVs and car numbers

  1. ajokay said on 27th June 2009, 23:58

    The road in Frome names after jenson is actually ‘Jenson Avenue’. It’s on a new housing estate, and so isn’t quite on Google’s satellite imagery, but it appears if you search for the street name.

    And here it is:

    http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=jenson+avenue&sll=51.239687,-2.293139&sspn=0.009578,0.027874&ie=UTF8&ll=51.245181,-2.290124&spn=0.004789,0.013937&t=h&z=17

    I still think teams should be made to run the driver’s numbers proper large on the nosecone, and on the rear-wing endplates.

    • persempre said on 28th June 2009, 0:13

      The Button surname goes back for centuries in Frome.
      I`d guess that Button Street was named after its` builder, a benefactor or the original occupant of the site. He may well have been an ancestor of Jenson, though.

    • Keith Collantine (@keithcollantine) said on 28th June 2009, 10:57

      So there is a place in Frome named after him? Nice one Ajokay, thanks for that.

  2. JaysonBorne said on 28th June 2009, 1:49

    I’d like to know why do drivers have a track figure inside their cockpit

    • JFranti said on 28th June 2009, 3:38

      I think it has to do with the numbers of corners, not for use as a map. I know that Melbourne, for example, has fewer numbered corners on TV here in the States than they do on official FIA track diagrams. The diagrams are so the drivers can reference exactly which corner a radio message or something is referring to.

      • Yeah, if the team radios that oil is on the racing line in turn 8, the driver better know which is turn 8!

    • Robbert said on 28th June 2009, 13:58

      Jenson Button:

      “When we talk on the radio or during briefing meetings with our races engineers, we refer to the turns as numbers, like the famous turn 8 at Istanbul Park. The problem for us drivers is that we are racing at a different track every two weeks, so after a year away from a particular track, it’s easy to forget which one is number 4 or 5. The map is only here to help us memorise the numbers of the corners, nothing more technical than that!”

      • LewisC said on 30th June 2009, 19:52

        Interesting. I thought it was so they could tell the team where they’d stopped/gone off. :)

  3. Dave said on 28th June 2009, 2:16

    Adelaide has a number of streets named after a number of F1 drivers from back in the old Grand Prix days. Senna, Capelli, Lafitte, Rosberg, Johansson, Schumacher, Berger, Streiff, Moss, Hill, and Hakkinen (there may be a couple of others that I have missed).

    Unfortunately, most of it is an industrial area and there is no way you would ever live there, but its a nice to still have that connection to the glory days of F1 in this town.

    Check it out here –

    http://maps.google.com.au/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Senna+Rd,+Wingfield+SA+5013&sll=-34.844416,138.56427&sspn=0.009827,0.015943&ie=UTF8&ll=-34.842514,138.564484&spn=0.009827,0.015943&t=h&z=16

  4. My not-always-reliable memory tells me that the change from large numbers to small happened in the early eighties, the reason for it being, as you say, to allow for more advertising space. I could be wrong but I recall it being mandated by FISA (although it’s possible they merely reduced the minimum size required)- it infuriated me since it made it so much harder to identify drivers and I hated the naked commercial motivation behind it. Just another case of the fans being ignored, I guess.

    • F1Yankee said on 28th June 2009, 5:02

      once again, LM has the right idea: large, standard issue number plates on 3 sides, black number on white face. having them lit like LM would be unnecessary, but smaller plates would be good for f1.

  5. F1Yankee said on 28th June 2009, 5:09

    Could you please clarify what is lowered on to the drivers (TV screen-like) whenever they are parked in their garages in the pits? Especially during free-practice or qualifiers? What is it & what do the drivers use/need it for?

    they’re checking up on f1fanatic.co.uk, of course!

  6. suffolk said on 28th June 2009, 9:03

    I notice Frome also has a Lewis Crescent and a Park Hill Drive.

  7. SonyJunkie said on 28th June 2009, 9:29

    Thank you for the answers Keith, really interesting. I Hope Williams get back to their winning ways sometime soon!

  8. David said on 28th June 2009, 10:10

    I definitely support the need of having large numbers. FIA (or FOTA? …) should oblige teams to keep a certain surface of bodywork free for large numbers application, on the front and on both sides of the car.
    I really ignore why there is a picure of the track inside the cockpit. It seems to be in a position that is really hard to look at during a flying lap!

  9. savage said on 28th June 2009, 10:14

    I always liked the fact that Nigel Mansell ran a red 5 my brother has it as a tattoo .

  10. ags said on 28th June 2009, 13:26

    In Silverstone village there are roads named, Graham Hill, Brabham Close and Stewart Drive. In Towcester they go further; Surtees Way, Hawthorn Drive, Clark Crescent, Irvine Drive, Lauda Way and Tyrrell Way… and only one of those has the driver’s first name.

    The use of transponders on the cars seems to have had an effect on the size of car numbers. Originally the Time Keepers were considered to be the only ones who cared about the car number and needed to see it, as more cars are now fitted with transponders the time keepers only need to see the number to correlate the correct car with the recorded transponder number.

  11. Crom said on 28th June 2009, 17:36

    In Germany, Michael Schumacher has a street named after him:
    http://www.panoramio.com/photo/3895882

  12. Daniel said on 28th June 2009, 18:29

    Well, unsurprisingly Ayrton Senna has a very important road and a very important tunnel named after him in São Paulo, but I was impressed to see that, with a quick and reckless look at Google Maps, that there are Ayrton Senna streets in France and Italy, and an Ayrton Senna square in Portugal…

  13. scunnyman said on 28th June 2009, 20:02

    NO Nigel Manseel place around the world then?

  14. persempre said on 28th June 2009, 20:11

    Maranello street names include via Gilles Villeneuve, via Alberto Ascari & via Tazio Nuvolari.

  15. Toby Bushby said on 29th June 2009, 0:53

    Keith, it seems that this story has all but been ignored by every F1 site thanks to Mosley’s ranting, but I think it’s important:

    http://f1.gpupdate.net/en/news/2009/06/24/hockenheim-says-goodbye-to-formula-1/

    Hockenheim gone for good!

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