Comments on: Ecclestone & Mosley under fire (updated) http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2009/07/06/ecclestone-and-mosley-under-fire/ F1 Fanatic - The Formula 1 Blog with F1 news, pictures, video, comment and analysis Fri, 19 Mar 2010 02:22:48 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: GeorgeK http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2009/07/06/ecclestone-and-mosley-under-fire/comment-page-1/#comment-268960 GeorgeK Thu, 09 Jul 2009 02:46:39 +0000 http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/?p=22753#comment-268960 Maciek, short and to the point. Perfect! Unfortunately Bernie's problems will fade with the latest FIA/Max hosing of FOTA. Time for them to walk, and not look back. That will solve both problems (Max and Bernie). Maciek, short and to the point. Perfect! Unfortunately Bernie’s problems will fade with the latest FIA/Max hosing of FOTA. Time for them to walk, and not look back. That will solve both problems (Max and Bernie).

]]> By: HG http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2009/07/06/ecclestone-and-mosley-under-fire/comment-page-1/#comment-268955 HG Thu, 09 Jul 2009 01:47:46 +0000 http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/?p=22753#comment-268955 :) :)

]]> By: ROBATCLAXBY http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2009/07/06/ecclestone-and-mosley-under-fire/comment-page-1/#comment-268935 ROBATCLAXBY Wed, 08 Jul 2009 20:19:04 +0000 http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/?p=22753#comment-268935 I think the split would have worked fine hope the FOTA fail to agree with th new teams and get another chance to break away from Max,Bernie, and CVC who are bleeding the sport dry.! I think the split would have worked fine
hope the FOTA fail to agree with th new teams and get another chance to break away
from Max,Bernie, and CVC who are bleeding the sport dry.!

]]> By: mp4-19b http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2009/07/06/ecclestone-and-mosley-under-fire/comment-page-1/#comment-268914 mp4-19b Wed, 08 Jul 2009 17:32:06 +0000 http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/?p=22753#comment-268914 bernie is certainly not a rapist!!!he is a virgin. unlike max he doesn't visit brothels. he is like a saint. he's taken a vow of celibacy. he is like the pope of f1. he doesn't allow evil thoughts to enter his brain. the man's soul is as clear & holy as the ganges. he is a role model for all youngsters. he has written his last will & testament, it reveals that after he attains sainthood & reaches god ,all his earnings should be used for gambling purposes at monte carlo. now isn't that a saintly will? tell me how many of us would make such a will. bernie is a really good Samaritan. now i pay my respect to bernie by raising my right hand to 45 degrees, the traditional Deutscher Gruß even known as Hitlergruß & shout at the top of my voice SIEG HEIL BERNIEEE!!!!!!!!!!! bernie is certainly not a rapist!!!he is a virgin. unlike max he doesn’t visit brothels. he is like a saint. he’s taken a vow of celibacy. he is like the pope of f1. he doesn’t allow evil thoughts to enter his brain. the man’s soul is as clear & holy as the ganges. he is a role model for all youngsters. he has written his last will & testament, it reveals that after he attains sainthood & reaches god ,all his earnings should be used for gambling purposes at monte carlo. now isn’t that a saintly will? tell me how many of us would make such a will. bernie is a really good Samaritan. now i pay my respect to bernie by raising my right hand to 45 degrees, the traditional Deutscher Gruß even known as Hitlergruß & shout at the top of my voice SIEG HEIL BERNIEEE!!!!!!!!!!!

]]> By: Maciek http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2009/07/06/ecclestone-and-mosley-under-fire/comment-page-1/#comment-268899 Maciek Wed, 08 Jul 2009 15:00:07 +0000 http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/?p=22753#comment-268899 One more: to all those who are willing to excuse Bernie - realize that praising Hitler for his effectiveness, is like praising suicide bombers for their devotion, or a serial killer for his attention to detail, or a rapist for his taste in women.... get it? One more: to all those who are willing to excuse Bernie – realize that praising Hitler for his effectiveness, is like praising suicide bombers for their devotion, or a serial killer for his attention to detail, or a rapist for his taste in women…. get it?

]]> By: Maciek http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2009/07/06/ecclestone-and-mosley-under-fire/comment-page-1/#comment-268895 Maciek Wed, 08 Jul 2009 14:53:18 +0000 http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/?p=22753#comment-268895 Yes well, do enlighten us - what is your opinion of a man who preached hate and violence, and installed a system of industrialized, mass-scale, racial murder? Hm? Yes well, do enlighten us – what is your opinion of a man who preached hate and violence, and installed a system of industrialized, mass-scale, racial murder? Hm?

]]> By: Maciek http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2009/07/06/ecclestone-and-mosley-under-fire/comment-page-1/#comment-268893 Maciek Wed, 08 Jul 2009 14:46:10 +0000 http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/?p=22753#comment-268893 As I've said in the forum on this topic, and I think this important - this very definitely was not just a poor choice of words on Bernie's part. It is a question of lacking an adequate moral compass and about a willingness to trivialize and perhaps excuse predetermined mass-scale murder. Bernie's outing, and anyone else's along the same lines, is nothing short of abhorrent and should be clearly denounced as such. What a slimy little man. As I’ve said in the forum on this topic, and I think this important – this very definitely was not just a poor choice of words on Bernie’s part. It is a question of lacking an adequate moral compass and about a willingness to trivialize and perhaps excuse predetermined mass-scale murder. Bernie’s outing, and anyone else’s along the same lines, is nothing short of abhorrent and should be clearly denounced as such. What a slimy little man.

]]> By: scunnyman http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2009/07/06/ecclestone-and-mosley-under-fire/comment-page-1/#comment-268856 scunnyman Wed, 08 Jul 2009 09:33:30 +0000 http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/?p=22753#comment-268856 Hey mp4-19b i'd like to find out more about you and your views on things, would you like to email me at scunnyman38@yahoo.co.uk? Hey mp4-19b i’d like to find out more about you and your views on things, would you like to email me at scunnyman38@yahoo.co.uk?

]]> By: scunnyman http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2009/07/06/ecclestone-and-mosley-under-fire/comment-page-1/#comment-268855 scunnyman Wed, 08 Jul 2009 09:30:49 +0000 http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/?p=22753#comment-268855 Hey dsob you want to email me @ scunnyman38@yahoo.co.uk and we can find out a bit more about each other and our views on stuff? Hey dsob you want to email me @ scunnyman38@yahoo.co.uk and we can find out a bit more about each other and our views on stuff?

]]> By: scunnyman http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2009/07/06/ecclestone-and-mosley-under-fire/comment-page-1/#comment-268854 scunnyman Wed, 08 Jul 2009 09:27:05 +0000 http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/?p=22753#comment-268854 Hey Maksutov any chance of you emailing me? I'd like to find out abit more about you and your views on things. my email scunnyman38@yahoo.co.uk Hey Maksutov any chance of you emailing me? I’d like to find out abit more about you and your views on things.

my email scunnyman38@yahoo.co.uk

]]> By: GeorgeK http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2009/07/06/ecclestone-and-mosley-under-fire/comment-page-1/#comment-268791 GeorgeK Tue, 07 Jul 2009 22:04:20 +0000 http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/?p=22753#comment-268791 To all who think a dictatorship could be a positive force: I think you are confusing leadership with dictatorship. Gaining consensus for a plan of action as opposed to shoving it down your constituencies throats. A minor difference that Max has lost sight of. As for Bernie, he is a business man who has sold out every principal sport should be based on to maximize revenue. He has swung the pendulum of the sport beyond sustainable financial levels. If FOTA thinks Bernie will kick more cash to the teams then they are operating with an agenda none of us have been privy to. To all who think a dictatorship could be a positive force: I think you are confusing leadership with dictatorship. Gaining consensus for a plan of action as opposed to shoving it down your constituencies throats. A minor difference that Max has lost sight of.

As for Bernie, he is a business man who has sold out every principal sport should be based on to maximize revenue. He has swung the pendulum of the sport beyond sustainable financial levels. If FOTA thinks Bernie will kick more cash to the teams then they are operating with an agenda none of us have been privy to.

]]> By: Wesley http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2009/07/06/ecclestone-and-mosley-under-fire/comment-page-1/#comment-268774 Wesley Tue, 07 Jul 2009 20:58:04 +0000 http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/?p=22753#comment-268774 I want bikini clad dolly birds on the podium! I want bikini clad dolly birds on the podium!

]]> By: jockmcspredder http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2009/07/06/ecclestone-and-mosley-under-fire/comment-page-1/#comment-268749 jockmcspredder Tue, 07 Jul 2009 19:09:33 +0000 http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/?p=22753#comment-268749 Bernie (and Max) should take his own advice and, if not lost already, should get lost! Bernie (and Max) should take his own advice and, if not lost already, should get lost!

]]> By: jockmcspredder http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2009/07/06/ecclestone-and-mosley-under-fire/comment-page-1/#comment-268748 jockmcspredder Tue, 07 Jul 2009 19:04:41 +0000 http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/?p=22753#comment-268748 I harbour the hope that FOTA are still working silently behind the scenes with plans to provide an alternative series, if only to be ready with their answer in the not unlikely event that Mad Max welches on the deal and seeks re-election. If Max pleads enough, maybe they'll agree to run in one or two events in his series too.If they work with the seasons, we could have a very short close season. I harbour the hope that FOTA are still working silently behind the scenes with plans to provide an alternative series, if only to be ready with their answer in the not unlikely event that Mad Max welches on the deal and seeks re-election.
If Max pleads enough, maybe they’ll agree to run in one or two events in his series too.If they work with the seasons, we could have a very short close season.

]]> By: Daffid http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2009/07/06/ecclestone-and-mosley-under-fire/comment-page-1/#comment-268741 Daffid Tue, 07 Jul 2009 18:34:16 +0000 http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/?p=22753#comment-268741 And if Red Bull hadn't dumped them and switched to overheating Ferrari engines in 2006 there would probably have been a couple of podiums for them that year - it was a good car and the Cosworth started the season the best engine, so they've not been that far from the top step very recently. And if Red Bull hadn’t dumped them and switched to overheating Ferrari engines in 2006 there would probably have been a couple of podiums for them that year – it was a good car and the Cosworth started the season the best engine, so they’ve not been that far from the top step very recently.

]]> By: Maksutov http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2009/07/06/ecclestone-and-mosley-under-fire/comment-page-1/#comment-268739 Maksutov Tue, 07 Jul 2009 17:15:45 +0000 http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/?p=22753#comment-268739 <blockquote>oh and maksutov i agree we could done without the love triangle image lol</blockquote> haha.. ooops, I think that "somehow" slipped out, ; I'll have to try extra hard to keep my fingers from tying the damn thing, but I should manage :) ----- Thanks for letting me know on the other people, i look forward to reading their posts :], certainly dsob and Keith of course I know :)

oh and maksutov i agree we could done without the love triangle image lol

haha.. ooops, I think that “somehow” slipped out, ; I’ll have to try extra hard to keep my fingers from tying the damn thing, but I should manage :)
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Thanks for letting me know on the other people, i look forward to reading their posts :], certainly dsob and Keith of course I know :)

]]> By: Maksutov http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2009/07/06/ecclestone-and-mosley-under-fire/comment-page-1/#comment-268737 Maksutov Tue, 07 Jul 2009 16:55:06 +0000 http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/?p=22753#comment-268737 <blockquote>Wow!!! i waffled a bit there when i didn’t mean to. Never mind i am an OLD MAN!!! i can say what i like. lol</blockquote> haha.. well I enjoy your views, so its all good lol :) <blockquote>And to correct that mistake then F1 needs to remove quite a lot of the changes that have happened in that time. Too many to mention. I see the only way to do that is to start again.</blockquote> I would like nothing more but to see that happen. I am not sure what FOTA is planning now but at this stage i would settle for anything if only the removal of Max and Bernie..., and that would be a HUGE step forward. As it is, at the moment we have nothing.. <blockquote> Yes safety is an issue, but it should not be the be all and end all of car design and race structure. Motorsport is inherently dangerous. I just say let the drivers race. Give them the tools to do the job and they’ll deliver.</blockquote> Exactly, I think enough has been done on safety for now, lets see if we can improve the excitement and the racing. The technical rules need to be reevaluated and fixed, and hopefully made so that the cars could take a little punch without for example, the wings disintegrating into million pieces when the cars touch. This would enable closer wheel to wheel racing and would allow drivers to take that extra risk. As it is now, cars are unable to overtake, it is like watching a computerized game to which to the end result known. <blockquote>Oh and get rid of all the old farts on the podium celebrations and let’s have some dolly birds in bikini’s giving out the prizes.</blockquote> haha.. that would be nice

Wow!!! i waffled a bit there when i didn’t mean to.

Never mind i am an OLD MAN!!! i can say what i like. lol

haha.. well I enjoy your views, so its all good lol :)

And to correct that mistake then F1 needs to remove quite a lot of the changes that have happened in that time. Too many to mention. I see the only way to do that is to start again.

I would like nothing more but to see that happen. I am not sure what FOTA is planning now but at this stage i would settle for anything if only the removal of Max and Bernie…, and that would be a HUGE step forward. As it is, at the moment we have nothing..

Yes safety is an issue, but it should not be the be all and end all of car design and race structure. Motorsport is inherently dangerous. I just say let the drivers race. Give them the tools to do the job and they’ll deliver.

Exactly, I think enough has been done on safety for now, lets see if we can improve the excitement and the racing. The technical rules need to be reevaluated and fixed, and hopefully made so that the cars could take a little punch without for example, the wings disintegrating into million pieces when the cars touch. This would enable closer wheel to wheel racing and would allow drivers to take that extra risk. As it is now, cars are unable to overtake, it is like watching a computerized game to which to the end result known.

Oh and get rid of all the old farts on the podium celebrations and let’s have some dolly birds in bikini’s giving out the prizes.

haha.. that would be nice

]]> By: scunnyman http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2009/07/06/ecclestone-and-mosley-under-fire/comment-page-1/#comment-268730 scunnyman Tue, 07 Jul 2009 15:54:45 +0000 http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/?p=22753#comment-268730 I'm quite curious about these racist comments Keith. I have re-read the articles comments a couple of time and can't see anything gone. Maybe they came on while i was away. I’m quite curious about these racist comments Keith. I have re-read the articles comments a couple of time and can’t see anything gone. Maybe they came on while i was away.

]]> By: scunnyman http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2009/07/06/ecclestone-and-mosley-under-fire/comment-page-1/#comment-268728 scunnyman Tue, 07 Jul 2009 15:49:39 +0000 http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/?p=22753#comment-268728 Very well and eloquently put dsob. And do Max and Bernie have any real friends or just hangers on i wonder. I guess it does help sometime if you live through a period when things happen , rather than read about it afterward. Of course not everyone can have the benefit of age. Very well and eloquently put dsob. And do Max and Bernie have any real friends or just hangers on i wonder.

I guess it does help sometime if you live through a period when things happen , rather than read about it afterward. Of course not everyone can have the benefit of age.

]]> By: scunnyman http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2009/07/06/ecclestone-and-mosley-under-fire/comment-page-1/#comment-268727 scunnyman Tue, 07 Jul 2009 15:38:44 +0000 http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/?p=22753#comment-268727 Well dsob do you NOT want to see bikini clad girls on the podium then? Well dsob do you NOT want to see bikini clad girls on the podium then?

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