Comments on: F1 links: FOTA criticise FIA over deal

By: wasiF1

wasiF1 — Fri, 10 Jul 2009 01:06:22 +0000

Oh boy
We thought the last half of the season will be free of of track action.
But the DEVIL is back after 3 weeks holiday

By: persempre

persempre — Thu, 09 Jul 2009 19:31:56 +0000

He’d only whip your queen.

By: scunnyman

scunnyman — Thu, 09 Jul 2009 19:10:53 +0000

I’ve emailed FOTA also. Dunno if they’ll listen to us. But i’m sure we have a better chance with them than a definite NO CHANCE with FIA.

By: Spud

Spud — Thu, 09 Jul 2009 18:54:56 +0000

A new series now is what is needed. I am sick and tired of all this bickering and dictating.

Set up the new series now and let williams and force india join up later when their contracts expire. Afterwards bring in the Lolas and the Aston Martins and then we will have a cracker of a championship with proper stable rules and proper circuits and hopefully proper (good looking) racing cars.

Leave Max and Bernie to themselves and watch as their F1 disappears when they dont have enough cars to fill a grid. Just wait and see……

By: dsob

dsob — Thu, 09 Jul 2009 16:48:10 +0000

Hounslow says:

A couple of days ago Max reminded everyone that any rule changes had to be unanimously agreed by all the entrant teams. At that stage, …

Good observation, but it goes back even earlier than that. Now we see why the entry date was moved up this year. Mosley needed the new teams entered before any settlement was reached with FOTA, so he could later have any such settlement negated, using the ploy that changes to Sporting Regs had to be approved by all teams entered.

Once again, Mosley shows himself to be an excellent strategist. Were he a chess player, I’d love a game against him.

By: HG

HG — Thu, 09 Jul 2009 16:28:06 +0000

the quote of the year for it’s irony value

By: HG

HG — Thu, 09 Jul 2009 16:25:00 +0000

yes i emailed fota,
can’t quote it here though. It would break the rules and not be cricket. At Least it feels a bit better.

By: mani

mani — Thu, 09 Jul 2009 13:14:22 +0000

thanks for the link persempre… check this out guys,

“This is because of the International Sporting Code and also because the entered teams have a contract with the FIA which not even the General Assembly or the World Council can abrogate. Anyone with an elementary knowledge of motor sport governance knows this. Imagine the uproar if, after the FOTA teams had entered, the World Council were subsequently to change the rules without asking them.”

Oh why didn’t FIA thought of it when it did the changes for 2010 regulations earlier. Basically, which started all this trouble???

By: wdf2

wdf2 — Thu, 09 Jul 2009 12:36:22 +0000

Time for FOTA to stop the madness. Give FIA a one-week deadline to reach sensible (and binding) agreements.

Otherwise, start the new series. If so, I promise to:
- watch every race (duh)
- buy products from the advertisers
- purchase tickets to three races

By: persempre

persempre — Thu, 09 Jul 2009 12:34:45 +0000

Max sat down with a mirror then )

By: John H

John H — Thu, 09 Jul 2009 12:29:44 +0000

The funny part is at the end, emphasing that the FIA and the FIA lawyers worked ‘over the weekend.’

Wow! Welcome to the real world FIA. You bunch of incompetent fools.

By: DGR-F1

DGR-F1 — Thu, 09 Jul 2009 12:26:23 +0000

Thanks for the compliment, scunnyman. I don’t know everything, and enjoy the chance to swap ideas with other knowledgeable fans on Keith’s blog (most of whom know lots more than me!).
You are right about the FIA, I think. They ought to be there to take the scruntineering, safety and timing issues out of the hands of the event organisers to make a level playing field in all the motorsport in Europe. But they appear to be like politicians and just grab more and more power for themselves, and have lost the point of why they are there, and then try to prove why they are there by making silly rule changes for no reason at all.
I think the only way out is for the teams and the fans to leave F1 (presumably next year) and never go back until the Max and Bernie show have gone…..

By: John H

John H — Thu, 09 Jul 2009 12:24:46 +0000

One word: Sad.

By: Bigbadderboom

Bigbadderboom — Thu, 09 Jul 2009 12:20:15 +0000

Well if you belive that statement then they would have you its FOTA messing about with the new concorde agreement, how does it get to a stage when FOTA walk out then, the five other tems left have agreed what FOTA agreed anyway!!!!!! Whats all this mess about?????

By: DGR-F1

DGR-F1 — Thu, 09 Jul 2009 12:13:17 +0000

Oooops, I mean 12 June of course!

By: persempre

persempre — Thu, 09 Jul 2009 11:46:12 +0000

FIA release new statement:http://www.fia.com/en-GB/mediacentre/pressreleases/f1releases/2009/Pages/2010_f1_regs.aspx

By: persempre

persempre — Thu, 09 Jul 2009 11:05:26 +0000

Yes, I agree & if anyone can do it they can but will any of them want to possibly put their entire companies at risk financially to achieve it?

I’m not saying it can’t be done. When & if FOTA feels it can then they’ll do it. I don’t think we, as fans, can just demand it without all the facts & when we won’t be footing the bill.

I’d willingly put money into a FOTA fighting fund as I’m sure some others would but I bet, as with everything in life, many who shout wouldn’t actually put their money where their mouth is.

By: persempre

persempre — Thu, 09 Jul 2009 10:52:38 +0000

The A1 series is struggling, among other things, because practically nobody can watch it on TV, Ali, which means it doesn’t bring in the money necessary to keep it going. How quickly would you give up F1 if you could never see a race?

Yes, there are ways which teams could get around the legalities but they have to weigh up the cost to their image.
How many people, other than committed fans, would realise why it was happening?
You only have to look at the Indy fiasco to see how many couldn’t grasp what went on there & thought it was some Ferrari led thing when the real problem was Michelin tyres & nothing to do with any of the Bridgestone runners. They were contractually obliged to race because they had no safety issues.
It’s one thing being uncompetitive as Ferrari have been this year, it’s another being seen to fail in a big way (& with no improvement) for 3 whole seasons which is what it would look like to those who didn’t undersand.

Yes, CVC can put their weight behind some issues & put persuasion to work in others but they can’t make the FIA do anything they don’t want to.

It really isn’t an easy problem to solve.

By: Bigbadderboom

Bigbadderboom — Thu, 09 Jul 2009 10:49:18 +0000

Persempre we are talking about some of the biggest companies in the world with resources and contacts to make this happen.

By: Ali Adams

Ali Adams — Thu, 09 Jul 2009 10:40:01 +0000

Silly me, *their not thier