Renault banned from European Grand Prix following Alonso’s wheel loss

2009 F1 seasonPosted on Author Keith Collantine

Renault did not warn Alonso his front-right wheel was loose
Renault did not warn Alonso his front-right wheel was loose

Renault are to be suspended from the next round of the world championship – the European Grand Prix at Valencia – following Fernando Alonso’s wheel loss in today’s race.

Renault's punishment is:

  • Too harsh (68%)
  • Fair (27%)
  • Too soft (3%)
  • No opinion (1%)

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The stewards’ decision says:

Having carefully reviewed the available film recordings and radio recordings and having met the team manager twice to discuss the matter the stewards believe:

1. that the competitor knowingly released car no. 7 from the pit stop position without one of the retaining devices for the wheel nuts being securely in position, this being an indication that the wheel nut itself may not have been properly secured,
2. being aware of this failed to take any action to prevent the car from leaving the pit lane,
3. failed to inform the driver of this problem or to advise him to take appropriate action given the circumstances, even though the driver contacted the team by radio believing he had a puncture,
4. this resulted in a heavy car part detaching at Turn 5 and the wheel itself detaching at Turn 9.

Offence: Breach of article 23.1.i and Article 3.2 of the 2009 FIA Formula One Sporting Regulations.

Penalty: The competitor ING Renault F1 Team is suspended from the next event in the 2009 Formula 1 World Championship.

The relevant articles are as follows:

3.2 Competitors must ensure that their cars comply with the conditions of eligibility and safety throughout practice and the race

23.1.i) It is the responsibility of the competitor to release his car after a pit stop only when it is safe to do so.

This weekend’s stewards are Mohammed Ben Sulayem, Morrie Chandler and Lajos Herczeg.

The penalty means Fernando Alonso will not be able to drive for Renault in his home Grand Prix.

He may be able to drive for another team and suspicion will inevitably fall on Ferrari. They will probably need a driver to replace the injured Felipe Massa and Alonso has long been linked with a move to the team.

Alonso lost his front-right wheel following a pit stop on lap 11 of the Hungarian Grand Prix. The wheel was not properly secured after the stop and it came loose shortly after the wheel fairing had come off the car.

This is the first time a team has been banned from a race as punishment for a car shedding a wheel. It seems the FIA are clamping down on the teams taking such risks after the accident that claimed Henry Surtees’ life last week, and Massa’s serious crash in qualifying yesterday.

Following the Australian Grand Prix Red Bull were fined $50,000 after allowing Sebastian Vettel to drive along the track following a crash which had torn a wheel off his car.

However you have to ask where was this kind of diligence from the stewards when Kimi Raikkonen was allowed to drive round Magny-Cours with his exhaust hanging off last year?

Renault has confirmed it will appeal the decision. The last team to be suspended from a race was BAR, which was banned from the Spanish and Monaco Grands Prix in 2005 after claims it had run its cars underweight.

303 comments on “Renault banned from European Grand Prix following Alonso’s wheel loss”

  1. To be honest I think that is a bit harsh, they wouldn’t have done this two weeks ago, they are only doing it to try and make out they are the good guys.

    1. Agreed, I have a feeling it’s a bit of a knee jerk reaction to debris on the track. The Valencian crowds aren’t going to like this too much.

      But Alonso in a Ferrari…hmmmmm

      1. Unfortunately, it’s highly unlikely that Alonso will be in red next race.

        There is a Spaniard who drives for Ferrari and recently won the 24 Hours of Le Man who can fill in for Massa (Marc Gene)…

        1. Indeed – he’d still be driving for Renault at least until the end of the season (though Flav told BBC they’re looking at it on a race by race basis — curious!). Allowing him to sub for Massa would result in Renault knowing too much about the Ferrari car — and vice versa.

    2. I think it’s perfectly reasonable.

      Wheel tethers would never have been put on the cars if that Italian marshall hadn’t been killed. Situations change from events.

      Nothing against Alonso, not at all his fault and I feel incredibly sorry for him, but with everything that’s happened, to know that Renault intentionally left him on his way knowing it wasn’t secure is disgusting.

      When I saw it wobbling, I was instantly concerned, when it flew off, there was nothing to stop it hitting Alonso’s head.

      Correct decision, unfair on Alonso yes, but 100% totally and utterly fair on Renault.

      1. it wasnt renaults fault the guy changing the wheel tried to secure the retainer even when alonso was diving away but the man with the lollipop left him go too soon

      2. There was a period of a few seconds when it would have been clear to Alonso that his wheel was in danger of coming off. At this point, he should have pulled over immediately out of respect for the safety of the other drivers. Given that he chose to ignore this, it’s hard to feel any sympathy for him. In fact, I think that he should be punished for his reckless behaviour in addition to the team’s penalty.

  2. Good. Motorsport has had 2 freakishly similar and dangerous accidents in the last month. Also, Alonso should’ve stopped the car the moment he saw the tyre vibrating so violently. The team could’ve also communicated the same. How you can endanger your own and fellow drivers’ lives after something tragic happening so recently is beyond my understanding.

    1. I’ve got to disagree with you….STRONGLY!
      If I saw Fernando or infact any driver stop the car instead of trying to nurse it back to the pits I would of felt cheated as a viewer. Sure in a perfect world Alonso would of been stopped before he left the pits but by the time people knew what was going on he was already a few corners in. I think people complain too much about their being a lack of racing one week then put in place all these over the top rules which kill racing the next.

        1. They are paid to entertainment, now that in no way means I want to see them get hurt, but they signed up for it, it’s part of the sport and people need to deal with that.

          Yes it’s tragic what’s happened over the past two weeks, but safety is amazing considering how quickly these drivers are going. We need to look at this properly, not just get all worked up because of two similar incidents in 2 weeks.

          1. I think it’s a bit too much to expect some guys to read the whole post before throwing some trash on Alonso. What the FIA stewards said it’s that the team never said a word of what was happening to the driver…. but you know…. you have to be able to read and then make a judgement… and only then make a comment. This blog is loosing it’s quality on the comments fast and furious. A shame.

          2. I found Alonso’s driving on the lap when the wheel fell off rather strange and too quick. If you think you have a puncture, the proper thing to do is to drive slowly back to the pits to minimise tyre and, in extreme cases, aero damage (the latter looks likethe eventual cause of the car’s retirement). Even without information from the team, Fernando has been driving F1 cars long enough that he should be able to do damage limitation.

            Fernando shouldn’t have been put in that situation though. At the very least, Reanult need to do more pit stop drills…

    2. Alonso didnt realise the wheel was loose, he’d contacted his team via radio thinking he’d had a puncture, and one of the reasons for the penalty on the FIA website was that the driver never got told about this. Alonso wasn’t to know the tyre would fly off and by the time it had it was too late. Fair enough a punishment should be issued but surely being suspended from the next round is a bit too harsh. The punishment wouldnt be as harsh a couple of weeks ago.

    3. How can so many people on this forum be this ignorant. or all of you just neutered.
      Racing has risk, racing creates situations where everything doesnt go right. This penaly is rediculous, and I dont even like Alonso or Renault. Is it going to be common practice that every time something happens on the track there is going to be someone or some organization held accountable.
      I see it now Hamilton doesnt cross his arms correctly during a press conference and boom there goes McLaren for another race, Ross Brawn forgets to button his top botton aand there goes Brawn for a race.
      All of you guys need to grow a pair or find a new sport to watch.

  3. Didn’t Renault/Alonso lose a front wheel at the Hungarain GP 2006? Nothing happend back then.

    So should Brawn not get bann for losing the spring?!

      1. Yeah, you are right, Alonso then crashed.

        I doubt that Renault had intentionly not informed Alonso, maybe they thought it was only the fairing? (I saw loose fairing on Ferrari and McLaren before)

        1. That the competitor knowlingly released car no. 7 from the pit stop position without one of the retaining devices for the wheel nuts being securely in position, this being an indication that the wheel nut itself may not have been properly secured.

          I think the knowingly bit is the key. That’s the difference between this and any other incident of a car losing a wheel. But I still think it’s harsh. They didn’t deliberately release him without the wheel being secured, so it’s a big accident, but an accident all the same. Perhaps making them start from the back would be a little better, but a total ban? People make mistakes, and in this sport every judgement involves a level of risk; sometimes they are life threatening, but everyone involved is aware of the risks when they sign up.
          Would love to see Alonso in the Ferrari though, just for one race. He shouldn’t be punished for the team’s mistake, so Renault should allow it. Would this be a first if he did move to another team for one race?

  4. Did they warn the drivers before the race that they should park their car if a part was threatening to fall off?

    If so then I can understand it, but otherwise this is just utterly lame.

    1. I broadly agree – this is a very harsh penalty, but if the teams were warned this sort of thing wasn’t going to be tolerated any more (and Red Bull’s punishment at Melbourne suggests that is the case) then that’s a different matter.

      1. Red Bull was punished for not calling Vettel in. That’s not the same as telling him to park it.

        Vettel tried to finish the race with that broken car.

        1. I haven’t got the stewards report on that incident to hand but a report from the time says:

          The German driver’s Red Bull team was also fined $50,000 for instructing Vettel to stay on track despite running on three wheels.

          Telling him to stay on track is surely the same as telling him not to park it?

          1. Yes well, the team told him not to pit.

            Vettel just kept on going round (going past the pit lane entry) hoping he could keep the cars behind him during the safety car period. He caused quite a commotion.

            In fact this caused Trulli to fly off and Hamilton to pass him, ultimately triggering the whole lie-gate debacle.

          2. Vettel’s car was already too badly damaged to continue the race and was shredding sharp carbon fiber all over the circuit. The team just wanted the car brought back quickly to the garage.
            In Alonso’s case, the car was still working reasonably well, had lost a wheel that was traveling not so fast and also in the direction of normal traffic.

            Many teams have driven back with only 3 wheels attached. The main contention here is that Alonso was released from the pit area without a properly prepared car and also the team failed to notify him of the problem.

            Can I hear anyone saying the FIA are “over reacting”!!!!

          3. Wrong, Vettel was told to stay OUT. He didn’t go into the garage quickly, but he went past the pitlane entry onto another lap.

        1. Why don’t they use black flag with orange circle in cases like Vettels in Australia is beyond me. In my opinion this is too harsh penalty, they should have punished Brawn as well then as the debris from their car caused Massa’s injury…

          I wonder if the same punishment would happen if pitwall told Alonso what is the situation.

  5. Yeah this is a direct response to the saftey concerns surrounding parts falling off cars, especially when they are avoidable as in the case of not putting a wheel on properly.

  6. It means Alonso will miss his home event that takes place in Valencia next month, unless he moves to another team.

    a cryptic remark,perhaps from autosport??

    i’m sure there will be rioting in valencia if alonso is not allowed to race!!!

    1. I’m baffled by this whole debate and quite suprised by what Keith’s attitude seems to be. The stewards have awarded the penalty on the basis that the evidence they gathered shows that the team KNOWINGLY released a car that posed a severe threat to safety and, further, did not even inform the driver EVEN when he radioed in that he had a problem. In other words the team, despite the very recent tragic evidence of the possible fatal outcome, deliberately and avoidably risked the lives of their own and other drivers. This preclude any discussion about parking the car after the wheel came off or of any other incident where there was no KNOWING act of recklessness. If the stewards analysis of the evidence is correct then the fact is that Renault committed an act of reckless endangerment that in any other circumstances would likely result in criminal charges, never mind a race ban. If that wheel had caused another death would you guys still be bleating on about the penalty being harsh because after all ‘it’s a big boys game’? Apparently a lot of people think that fibbing to the stewards deserves the loss of a seasons contractors points and a mega fine but deliberately risking lives is a much less serious issue.

      1. Absolute tosh. Let’s see this alleged evidence the Stewards have gathered. Are we to believe that the guy on the lollipop – who is the one who released Alonso – looked down and said, “Yeah, wheels not on right, but sod it, I’ll let him go.”
        Nobody knowingly released anyone – why on earth would they, what would they have to gain? They would much have preferred a 10s longer stop and the wheel on right.
        The stewards have issued a ridiculous statement – not for the first time – and everyone seems to have swallowed it. Another ridiculous decision, defensible only if you you live in the FIA dreamworld.

  7. Its just a knee-jerk reaction from FIA after the fatal crash of Henry Surtees at Donington park when a tyre from another car banged his head. Not to forget Massa’s critical condition because of a spring from Barichello’s Brawn!

  8. So…a driver needs to stop at any problem to not risk losing a piece of the car? On those circumstances Vettel should have stopped too the moment the car was not feeling ok.

    There must be another reason other that the solely fact that the wheel broke loose.

    This seams Renault paying for everything that has happenned.

      1. 100% agree, You would never see this in the US, maybe a drive thru penaly or a stop and go penalty be not this.
        This sport is being ruined by the nonparticipating officials in the FIA and the stewards they have. What a bunch of idiots.

  9. Why would Renault allow Alonso to drive a Ferrari, for one race, when they allegedly are attempting to keep him on the team for 2010???

    THAT would be idiotic IMHO.

    Could this also be backlash from Alan Doney led stewards for the leading FOTA teams? If Kimi receives a demotion for his first turn contact with Vettel, you can take that notion to the bank.

    1. Flav’s response during the pit walk on the BBC to the question “Will Fernando be racing at Renault next year?” was:

      “We’ll see, race by race.”

    2. “Why would Renault allow Alonso to drive a Ferrari, for one race, when they allegedly are attempting to keep him on the team for 2010???”

      1. $$$$$$$ for Flavio, Alonso’s manager and the owner of F1’s TV rights in Spain
      2. $$$$$$$ for Renault, either for a loan fee from Ferrari, Bernie opening his pocketbook because Valencia would clearly be an utter failure without Alonso in the race, or both

      It absolutely will happen. It makes too much sense for everyone involved in F1 for it to not happen, and the people who really make the decisions in F1 will see to it that it does.

      Remember: it’s not unheard of for a driver to drive for one team during a season while being under contract with another. Vettel tested for BMW-Sauber and filled in for the injured Kubica at Indy 2007 while being under contract with Red Bull.

  10. i would have agreed on a hefty fine, but not banning them. this will surely affect the commercial interest of reanult & f1 in spain. lets not forget, its cuz of renault & alonso that f1 has gained popularity in spain. a hefty fine would have been enough imo.

    1. I’d have thought that the team hierarchy would have known about the same time as Fernando felt the car wasn’t turning into T1 properly.

    1. This isn’t good for the sport… It really isn’t. Let Renault Race purely because thousands of people are going to be paying JUST to see Fernando Alonso, spains hero.

    2. I know I’m way late to the party, but just in case anyone happens along to read this thread, I need to point out a couple things.

      What Vettel/Red Bull did in Australia was stupid. And had it come 1 week after a driver was killed from a tire flying loose, doubtless they also would have been banned from the next race, instead of being fined. So not quite apples-to-apples comparing that to Renault’s penalty.

      Brawn did not KNOW that the spring was loose/damaged/had a bolt failing, and still said nothing to the driver. Brawn did not know what EXACTLY was wrong with the car until it was back in the garage after that lap. There was nothing intentionally done or not done by the team. Therefore, no penalty.

      Renault, on the other hand, knew damn well that wheel was not properly secured. They knew it the instant the car pulled out and the wheelman from the right front picked himself off his ass and said ” Hey! I wasn’t done yet!”

      Watch the tape, it’s plain as day, the lollipop man blew his job, releasing the driver before ALL crew members finished.

      Bad form, he’s probably looking for a job now, but nothing sinister so far. Had Renault radioed Fernando as to what happened, and he slowed way down and managed to get back, I doubt anyone would have said a word.

      Instead, Renault chose to NOT radio the driver to apprise him of the situation, even when Fernando radioed in to say he had a problem.

      So Renault getting a damn sharp penalty comes as no surprise to be. I’m not certain the ban is the correct penalty, but the correctness of the penalty is another debate. Seems the debate here is whether Renault deserved a penalty, or not. Answer: Yes.

  11. @mp4-19b-In the case of Brawn no one had any idea about the spring until it came lose but in Alonso’s case Team and Driver both knew about the wheel and yet the team didn’t order Alonso to stop the machine.But I too feel the ban to too much.

    But i don’t think Alonso will drive for Ferrari next race….as there is so many things to consider like sponsors,contracts etc.

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