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	<title>Comments on: F1 links: Kubica didn&#8217;t expect BMW to quit</title>
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		<title>By: Mussolini's Pet Cat</title>
		<link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2009/07/31/f1-links-kubica-didnt-expect-bmw-to-quit/comment-page-1/#comment-275187</link>
		<dc:creator>Mussolini's Pet Cat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 10:55:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, from a historic point of view, Ferrari can stay ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, from a historic point of view, Ferrari can stay <img src='http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Mussolini's Pet Cat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mussolini's Pet Cat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 10:52:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent, thats another Car manufacturer out, fingers crossed Toyota go soon too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent, thats another Car manufacturer out, fingers crossed Toyota go soon too.</p>
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		<title>By: Mahir C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mahir C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 04:28:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Red Bull? Really?

And what about Ferrari, they been there since the beginning you know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Red Bull? Really?</p>
<p>And what about Ferrari, they been there since the beginning you know.</p>
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		<title>By: Piffles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Piffles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2009 15:47:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Manufacturers are too business orientated. F1 is just a means to a goal whereas for people like McLaren and Williams, F1 is their life.

I say screw the manufacturers and bring back the small teams who really care about racing:
McLaren, Williams, Benetton, Red Bull, Tyrell, Footwork, Minardi, Arrows, Brawn</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Manufacturers are too business orientated. F1 is just a means to a goal whereas for people like McLaren and Williams, F1 is their life.</p>
<p>I say screw the manufacturers and bring back the small teams who really care about racing:<br />
McLaren, Williams, Benetton, Red Bull, Tyrell, Footwork, Minardi, Arrows, Brawn</p>
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		<title>By: dwp</title>
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		<dc:creator>dwp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 21:36:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Patrickl

The onboard camera, BBC, didn&#039;t show that. His head went very far forward on impact. Plus there were tyre marks from him applying the brakes on the pavement all the way to the barrier. Weak application but there was still a remarkable effort to halt the car.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Patrickl</p>
<p>The onboard camera, BBC, didn&#8217;t show that. His head went very far forward on impact. Plus there were tyre marks from him applying the brakes on the pavement all the way to the barrier. Weak application but there was still a remarkable effort to halt the car.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrickl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrickl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 21:19:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Massa was slumped forward already. Maybe that negated the function of the HANS?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Massa was slumped forward already. Maybe that negated the function of the HANS?</p>
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		<title>By: StrFerrari4Ever</title>
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		<dc:creator>StrFerrari4Ever</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 19:33:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Indeed thats what many are wishing see Schumi finishing off the season so Massa can be fully recovered for 2010.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indeed thats what many are wishing see Schumi finishing off the season so Massa can be fully recovered for 2010.</p>
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		<title>By: Damon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Damon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 18:35:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m reckon millions of F1 fans across the world would not have a problem if Massa stayed away from racing till the end of the season :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m reckon millions of F1 fans across the world would not have a problem if Massa stayed away from racing till the end of the season <img src='http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: dwp</title>
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		<dc:creator>dwp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 17:56:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Firstly this is great news about Massa. There is one concern that the doctors may bring up, in the terrible event of any accident at the next event,  are his fractures  healed enough to not be an additional problem.

With respect to closed cockpits these were studied in the past for aero reasons. The problems were visibility. Canopies that were suitable for aircraft had too much distortion for a car and after 10  laps the build up of dirt and grime on the canopy reduced visibility too much. I would not  be surprised that the FIA revisits this but if something is done it cannot create new problems. This is a given as the people who will be looking at improvements have this at the top of their list. I absolutely expect a lot of attention to be given to visors. Photos would indicate that Massa&#039;s visor  became detached at the left and  the question is if it had not would his injuries have been less severe and what was the failure mechanism and could the attachment point be improved.

Nothing has come to light about Massa&#039;s HANS device. It may have been damaged or may not have been 100% effective. I look to the two skull fractures, one obviously due to the spring immpact. The cause of the other may have been the impact with the barrier.

I can&#039;t say too  much how great it is that Massa is strongly on the mend and wants to go racing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Firstly this is great news about Massa. There is one concern that the doctors may bring up, in the terrible event of any accident at the next event,  are his fractures  healed enough to not be an additional problem.</p>
<p>With respect to closed cockpits these were studied in the past for aero reasons. The problems were visibility. Canopies that were suitable for aircraft had too much distortion for a car and after 10  laps the build up of dirt and grime on the canopy reduced visibility too much. I would not  be surprised that the FIA revisits this but if something is done it cannot create new problems. This is a given as the people who will be looking at improvements have this at the top of their list. I absolutely expect a lot of attention to be given to visors. Photos would indicate that Massa&#8217;s visor  became detached at the left and  the question is if it had not would his injuries have been less severe and what was the failure mechanism and could the attachment point be improved.</p>
<p>Nothing has come to light about Massa&#8217;s HANS device. It may have been damaged or may not have been 100% effective. I look to the two skull fractures, one obviously due to the spring immpact. The cause of the other may have been the impact with the barrier.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t say too  much how great it is that Massa is strongly on the mend and wants to go racing.</p>
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		<title>By: CoolGav</title>
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		<dc:creator>CoolGav</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 14:27:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All this Schumacher talk could be moot if Massa is well enough to drive in Valencia. The four week break has fallen at the best point in the season for his recovery. I guess it will be medical oppinion whether he is up to driving an F1 car then - it&#039;s better to be fully fit than risk making things worse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All this Schumacher talk could be moot if Massa is well enough to drive in Valencia. The four week break has fallen at the best point in the season for his recovery. I guess it will be medical oppinion whether he is up to driving an F1 car then &#8211; it&#8217;s better to be fully fit than risk making things worse.</p>
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