Schumacher won’t get F60 test (Poll)

Schumacher drove the F2007 but won't get a go in an F60

Schumacher drove the F2007 but won't get a go in an F60

Michael Schumacher will not get to sample a 2009-spec Ferrari F60 after three teams blocked the move.

The opposition came from Williams and Red Bull/Toro Rosso. The latter objected because they claim to have made a similar request for Jaime Alguersuari which had been turned down. Williams, meanwhile, said Ferrari should have used one of their nominated reserve drivers.

Should Schumacher be allowed to test a 2009-spec F1 car?

  • Yes (34%)
  • No (66%)

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Mercedes’ Norbert Haug, who was in favour of granting Schumacher a test, seemed to think Red Bull had not made such a request for Alguersuari:

Giving Jaime a test would have been justifiable, but having said that I don’t think there was an official request.

He added:

You will find some guys that will try to block it. But what goes around comes around. They will need some help at another stage. It’s not giving people presents, it’s being fair when it’s justifiable.

Williams would presumably respond that this is what reserve drivers are for and their nominated third driver, Nico H???lkenberg, drove the FW31 over the winter.

It’s not hard to see why Ferrari plumped for Schumacher when the opportunity arose, nor why they chanced their arm on getting him a test in the current car.

He has, of course, already logged 67 laps at Mugello in an F2007 using GP2 slicks. There were rumours the FIA were unhappy about this but there has been nothing forthcoming from the governing body.

You don’t need me to rattle off Schumacher’s daunting career stats to prove how gigantically experienced he is. If the F60 is as competitive at Valencia as it was at the Hungaroring then even if he hasn’t tested it yet he’s a candidate for the win.

And you have to wonder if that’s part of the reason why some of the other teams don’t want him testing.

Do you think he should be allowed a day’s driving in the F60?

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116 comments on Schumacher won’t get F60 test (Poll)

  1. Oliver said on 4th August 2009, 11:05

    Despite the fact M.Shumacher will not be aiming to win the world championship, I can understand Williams’ standpoint in that he will still be a competitor on track and stands to deprive them of some good finishing positions. Assuming his points were not going to be added to Ferrari’s tally, I doubt they’d mind very much, likewise Redbull.

    • Matt said on 4th August 2009, 12:30

      but his driving would still help improve the car and thus benefit ferrari as a whole – Raikkonen and Massa (if he returns before the end of the season)

    • Jenson Button: 68 points

      We have 70 points to fight for. Hey wait, it is possible!!!!!!!!!!

  2. James Brickles said on 4th August 2009, 11:14

    My opinion will be put very simply. If Jaime Alguersuari didn’t get a test before his first race, then Schumacher shouldn’t be allowed.

  3. I disagree with the testing ban as a whole, but since the rule was set I believe it should be followed.

    Not allowing Jaime Algesuari to test had set a precedent, that Ferrari should dutifully follow. However, what is unclear is whether Torro Rosso actually requested that he be excused. There was no news on this, so that is their loss.

    Personally, I think the FIA should solely make the decision in this case. And that ruling should be not allowing Schuey to test in the F60.

  4. Kenny77 said on 4th August 2009, 12:01

    Would letting him have a days test help him?… Or help the team improve their car somewhat? Even if it was only for a day. I was just wondering if Ferrarri are allowed to ‘improve’ or upgrade their car depending on Schumi’s F60 ‘test’.

  5. spanky the wonder monkey said on 4th August 2009, 12:02

    i said no due to 2 things.
    1 – a testing ban is a testing ban. same for all.
    2 – why didn’t ferrari substitute one of their test drivers? don’t see the point of having test drivers if you draft in someone you unceremoniously dumped years before.

    there are 3 free practice sessions before quali. this is ample time for any racer to get to grips with a car and circuit, let alone someone with MS’s history.

    • Adrian said on 4th August 2009, 12:31

      someone you unceremoniously dumped years before.

      And there was me thinking that Schumi retired having acheived just about everything he could in the sport and wanting to spend more time with his family. I didn’t realise he was fired – was it for poor results??

  6. Chris said on 4th August 2009, 12:14

    He could do what Ross Brawn has appear to have done and test on the Public Roads

    !!!!!!!!!

  7. Rob R. said on 4th August 2009, 12:19

    Another ridiculous predicament brought about by ham-fisted rule changes. Obviously the short sighted cretins who came up with the testing ban never thought about the needs of substitute drivers, or new replacements for fired drivers.

    However, I think even the FIA realise how stupid a PR move it would be to punish Schumacher for the test that happened on slicks, so, fingers crossed we won’t hear anything more about that.

  8. adz2193 said on 4th August 2009, 12:26

    The whole argument is pointless. It’s just another Formula 1 car, Schumacher’s driven about 20 different cars in his time in F1, and if Jaime Alguersauri at such a young age and with no F1 experience can do it in Hungary, then 7-time world champion Michael Schumacher should have no problem.

    • Patrickl said on 4th August 2009, 12:46

      Alguersuari was 8 tenths slower than Buemi. Fine for some youngster who comes in F1 having done only a straightline test and an F1 demo, but If Raikkonen is 8 tenths faster than Schumacher it will be a disgrace for Schumacher.

      People might say they don’t expect much, but that means that they expect him to be very close to Raikkonen if not in front.

  9. Tiomkin said on 4th August 2009, 12:42

    I find it amazing that there is such a debate on this. The rule is NO TESTING. Is it that hard to understand two words?

    Personally, I think the ban is dangerous. New drivers unleashed with no familiarity in the car. If someone is injured…. Well, all I can say is everyone knows deep down it is dangerous. But it is the RULE and I/we don’t make them.

  10. Alastair said on 4th August 2009, 13:03

    STR chose to replace one of their drivers with an inexperienced rookie, Ferrari CHOSE to replace one of their injured drivers with someone who has not driven in a race since 2006 and has had far less time behind the wheel of their current car than the driver Ferrari nominated as being the replacement driver in such an event.

    How can this be so difficult for people to grasp?

    In any case, the difficulty in 2009 is not driving the car, the simulator will help Schumi get to grips with all that, it’s managing the tyres and he’s been driving the 2007 car with the 2009 tyres, hasn’t he? Not difficult for Ferrari to simulate the amount of downforce he’ll have on the 2009 tyres, is there?

  11. Brawn said on 4th August 2009, 13:10

    I can understand how everyone feels on both sides of the arguement. But I dont think its fair to think of Ferraris situation and Torro Rossos as the same. Torro Rosso fired Sebastian in the middle of the season… they did that knowing about the no testing. Ferrari on the other hand have Shumacher filling in for the injured Massa, they had no control over that. Dont think they should be compared.

    I personally feel Shuey should do a couple of laps in the new car but can see it being unfair. Will definatly be tuning into the testing sessions! :D

  12. Brawn said on 4th August 2009, 13:11

    *practice sessions :P

  13. schumi the greatest said on 4th August 2009, 13:28

    i think the only reason ferrari wanted him to test is because rather than having to learn the car and the track at velcia he would be just learning the track, at lest if he knew how the car behaved in certain corners he would have some idea while learning the track at valencia.

    i dont think it will cause too much problem but i think kimi is going to look a bit stupid once schumacher turns up and ferrari are paying him what $50million a year? even if he beats schumacher, it wont be by much, he needs a good kik upo the **** anyway

  14. Ronman said on 4th August 2009, 13:37

    i see that many hear have mixed the testing ban rule with the fact if Ferrari and Schumi should be exempt.

    the rule is there, whether right or wrong it’s there they know better than to ask for exceptions.

    however, i am a strong advocate of re initiating testing… BUT… controlled within the same country where the HQ is to cut down on transportation costs. possibly at the team’s personal tracks if possible. that would limit costs, and keep it down to just one car.

    By the way, don’t they shake down cars anymore?

  15. pSynrg said on 4th August 2009, 13:37

    Maybe the answers to this are new testing rules. Adopt a similar approach as to engines and gearboxes.

    Lift the ban on testing but only allow all teams a set number of days per year which they can do whatever they want with. Once these days are used, that’s it – your quota is gone until end of season…

    Say maybe 14 days for the entire season? An additonal rule could be introduced where at least 3 days of the 14 MUST be given to new/replacement driver development.

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