Comments on: Youth and experience: the leading candidates for USF1′s seats in 2010 http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2009/08/12/youth-and-experience-the-leading-candidates-for-usf1s-seats-in-2010/ F1 Fanatic - The Formula 1 Blog with F1 news, pictures, video, comment and analysis Fri, 10 Feb 2012 13:34:22 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Ryan http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2009/08/12/youth-and-experience-the-leading-candidates-for-usf1s-seats-in-2010/comment-page-3/#comment-296845 Ryan Fri, 16 Oct 2009 05:51:47 +0000 http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/?p=23961#comment-296845 Scott Speed shouldn't be counted out, seeing that he has F1 experience... but I think the Red Bull team put a sour taste in his mouth for F1. He probably wants to continue his fruitless pursuit for a NASCAR crown. It's really tough to stick with American drivers only. Why not have one American driver at first? If so, Scott Dixon, Will Pwoer, Dario Franchitti, or Sebastian Bourdais would be good candidates. Especially Will Power, if he can recover from his injuries before then. Scott Speed shouldn’t be counted out, seeing that he has F1 experience… but I think the Red Bull team put a sour taste in his mouth for F1. He probably wants to continue his fruitless pursuit for a NASCAR crown. It’s really tough to stick with American drivers only.

Why not have one American driver at first? If so, Scott Dixon, Will Pwoer, Dario Franchitti, or Sebastian Bourdais would be good candidates. Especially Will Power, if he can recover from his injuries before then.

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]]> By: AP http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2009/08/12/youth-and-experience-the-leading-candidates-for-usf1s-seats-in-2010/comment-page-3/#comment-278071 AP Sat, 15 Aug 2009 14:08:47 +0000 http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/?p=23961#comment-278071 I said it in another thread but maybe a driver that races in a US based series might be good enough qualification... If they wanted a bolt out of the blue Marcos Ambrose has raced against Button, Kimi and the like... Is the best road racer in nascar at the moment, beating Montoya, Speed, Almeninger etc no he is not American but is well know in US thru nascar. 1998 A move to the UK followed in 1998 with competition in the British Formula Ford Championship with the Van Diemen Team, and a fifth placed finish for the year. 1999 Won the coveted European Formula Ford Championship in 1999, and placed third in the British Formula Ford Championship as well that year. 2000 Raced in the French Formula 3 competition before withdrawing mid-season and hooking up with Alan Docking Racing for the concluding rounds of the British Formula 3 series. Montoya back would be great but it wont happen. Kyle Bush, this guy has talent, and while I am not usually this kind with nascar drivers, I think this kid would excel in any thing with a motor. Danica Patrick would bring in $$ but she would embarrass herself and that would put a dent in her career so I cant see her taking that risk. Scott Dixon, Will Power, or Ryan Briscoe would also be great options again there all Aust / NZ they are know in US thru the domestic series. I said it in another thread but maybe a driver that races in a US based series might be good enough qualification…

If they wanted a bolt out of the blue Marcos Ambrose
has raced against Button, Kimi and the like…
Is the best road racer in nascar at the moment, beating Montoya, Speed, Almeninger etc

no he is not American but is well know in US thru nascar.

1998
A move to the UK followed in 1998 with competition in the British Formula Ford Championship with the Van Diemen Team, and a fifth placed finish for the year.

1999
Won the coveted European Formula Ford Championship in 1999, and placed third in the British Formula Ford Championship as well that year.

2000
Raced in the French Formula 3 competition before withdrawing mid-season and hooking up with Alan Docking Racing for the concluding rounds of the British Formula 3 series.

Montoya back would be great but it wont happen.

Kyle Bush, this guy has talent, and while I am not usually this kind with nascar drivers, I think this kid would excel in any thing with a motor.

Danica Patrick would bring in $$ but she would embarrass herself and that would put a dent in her career so I cant see her taking that risk.

Scott Dixon, Will Power, or Ryan Briscoe would also be great options again there all Aust / NZ they are know in US thru the domestic series.

]]> By: The Limit http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2009/08/12/youth-and-experience-the-leading-candidates-for-usf1s-seats-in-2010/comment-page-3/#comment-278030 The Limit Sat, 15 Aug 2009 04:55:40 +0000 http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/?p=23961#comment-278030 I would love to see a driver from NASCAR and the IRL take up the positions at USF1. This would certainly generate interest in America and would also determine how drivers from two very different series would fare. I really don't think that Scott Speed is an option that would create major interest. Juan Montoya certainly will never drive an F1 car again, and alot of the IRL stable have been overlooked by Formula One. Dan Wheldon, Dario Franchitti, both European drivers with tons of experience and championships to prove it, but never given an F1 opportunity. Justin Wilson and Robert Doornbos, both ex F1 backmarkers long since forgotten in European race circles. So if its going to be anybody, my money will be on a young racer few people have considered. Marco Andretti? Quite possibly a consideration. The Andretti name, along with Foyt, without doubt the most legendary name in American open wheel racing. Would cause a stir. As for NASCAR? A.J Almendinger, young guy, heavily connected with Red Bull, the very same people who are bankrolling Scott Speed's career. Alot more likely than Kyle Busch, who still wants to win the NASCAR Sprint Cup championship I would wager, locked in a contract so lucrative only a fool would walk away from. I think its a given that no 'major' NASCAR stars are going to jump ship, purely because they are on so much money that leaving would prove too much of a risk. The failure in F1 of Bourdais for example has not gone unnoticed in America, and he won four Champcar titles! No, its going to be two young pups, thats for sure. I would love to see a driver from NASCAR and the IRL take up the positions at USF1. This would certainly generate interest in America and would also determine how drivers from two very different series would fare. I really don’t think that Scott Speed is an option that would create major interest. Juan Montoya certainly will never drive an F1 car again, and alot of the IRL stable have been overlooked by Formula One.
Dan Wheldon, Dario Franchitti, both European drivers with tons of experience and championships to prove it, but never given an F1 opportunity. Justin Wilson and Robert Doornbos, both ex F1 backmarkers long since forgotten in European race circles. So if its going to be anybody, my money will be on a young racer few people have considered.
Marco Andretti? Quite possibly a consideration. The Andretti name, along with Foyt, without doubt the most legendary name in American open wheel racing. Would cause a stir.
As for NASCAR? A.J Almendinger, young guy, heavily connected with Red Bull, the very same people who are bankrolling Scott Speed’s career. Alot more likely than Kyle Busch, who still wants to win the NASCAR Sprint Cup championship I would wager, locked in a contract so lucrative only a fool would walk away from. I think its a given that no ‘major’ NASCAR stars are going to jump ship, purely because they are on so much money that leaving would prove too much of a risk.
The failure in F1 of Bourdais for example has not gone unnoticed in America, and he won four Champcar titles!
No, its going to be two young pups, thats for sure.

]]> By: Paige Michael-Shetley http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2009/08/12/youth-and-experience-the-leading-candidates-for-usf1s-seats-in-2010/comment-page-1/#comment-277952 Paige Michael-Shetley Fri, 14 Aug 2009 17:15:52 +0000 http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/?p=23961#comment-277952 Right on. Dixon is about as good as any driver not currently in F1. Right on. Dixon is about as good as any driver not currently in F1.

]]> By: Eric http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2009/08/12/youth-and-experience-the-leading-candidates-for-usf1s-seats-in-2010/comment-page-1/#comment-277850 Eric Fri, 14 Aug 2009 12:04:33 +0000 http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/?p=23961#comment-277850 If you call whining like a little girl personality. Maybe you didn't see his comment about F1. When asked about F1 he said "well the racing isn't very good over there" and went on to say when he tests for Toyota and they offer him an F1 ride (think he was a little ahead of himself) he would not take it because he would wait for Ferrari or McLaren to offer him a drive. WHAT AN ASS If you call whining like a little girl personality. Maybe you didn’t see his comment about F1. When asked about F1 he said “well the racing isn’t very good over there” and went on to say when he tests for Toyota and they offer him an F1 ride (think he was a little ahead of himself) he would not take it because he would wait for Ferrari or McLaren to offer him a drive. WHAT AN ASS

]]> By: dsob http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2009/08/12/youth-and-experience-the-leading-candidates-for-usf1s-seats-in-2010/comment-page-3/#comment-277754 dsob Fri, 14 Aug 2009 07:19:18 +0000 http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/?p=23961#comment-277754 I won't "bash" you for your remarks. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But if you want to talk race records, let's do just that. Let's compare with other younger IRL drivers. Ryan Hunter-Reay has been mentioned quit a bit. In 3 IRL seasons he has 35 races, no poles, 1 win, 2 podiums, 13 top tens. He was IRL and Indy 500 Rookie of the Year for 2007. Marco Andretti in 4 IRL seasons has 60 races, 1 pole, 1 win, 7 podiums, 22 top tens. He was IRL and Indy 500 Rookie of the Year for 2006. I believe Ryan Briscoe was also mentioned. In 5 years with IRL, he has 49 starts, with 7 poles, 4 wins, 9 podiums, 27 top tens. Danica Patrick has 5 years with IRL, and in 77 races has claimed 3 poles, 1 win, 4 podiums and 40 top tens. Numbers aren't everything, of course, but in this case they tell us that from this list Briscoe and Patrick are the best so far. Briscoe has a history of many "Not Classified" though, seeming to follow the "checkers or wreckers" school of driving. With 40 top tens/5 podium finishes in 77 starts Patrick is the more consistent of the two. Patrick currently lies 5th in IRL championship points. Ryan Briscoe has had an awesome season so far(logging 2 of his 4 wins and 5 of his 9 podiums) and is second in points. From this, I'd say that if an USF1 driver were to come from IRL, it should be either Patrick or Briscoe. But the odds of Patrick leaving IRL, I think, are small. She does, after all, own equity in her #7 team, and seems happy where she is. I didn't do stats for drivers from other series who were mentioned, as it isn't an even comparison. But I don't feel that Montoya, Speed, or several of the others mentioned are good choices for USF1. And Wurz? I'd love him to be on my team, but in charge of engineering and setup, not in a seat. Wurz has probably more miles in an F1 car in testing than any other driver ever. That sort of experience would be valuable on car setup, for certain. But are we 100% certain that he's given up on Superfund ? Anyway, my thoughts, for what it's worth. I won’t “bash” you for your remarks. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

But if you want to talk race records, let’s do just that. Let’s compare with other younger IRL drivers.

Ryan Hunter-Reay has been mentioned quit a bit. In 3 IRL seasons he has 35 races, no poles, 1 win, 2 podiums, 13 top tens. He was IRL and Indy 500 Rookie of the Year for 2007.

Marco Andretti in 4 IRL seasons has 60 races, 1 pole, 1 win, 7 podiums, 22 top tens. He was IRL and Indy 500 Rookie of the Year for 2006.

I believe Ryan Briscoe was also mentioned. In 5 years with IRL, he has 49 starts, with 7 poles, 4 wins, 9 podiums, 27 top tens.

Danica Patrick has 5 years with IRL, and in 77 races has claimed 3 poles, 1 win, 4 podiums and 40 top tens.

Numbers aren’t everything, of course, but in this case they tell us that from this list Briscoe and Patrick are the best so far. Briscoe has a history of many “Not Classified” though, seeming to follow the “checkers or wreckers” school of driving. With 40 top tens/5 podium finishes in 77 starts Patrick is the more consistent of the two.

Patrick currently lies 5th in IRL championship points. Ryan Briscoe has had an awesome season so far(logging 2 of his 4 wins and 5 of his 9 podiums) and is second in points.

From this, I’d say that if an USF1 driver were to come from IRL, it should be either Patrick or Briscoe. But the odds of Patrick leaving IRL, I think, are small. She does, after all, own equity in her #7 team, and seems happy where she is.

I didn’t do stats for drivers from other series who were mentioned, as it isn’t an even comparison. But I don’t feel that Montoya, Speed, or several of the others mentioned are good choices for USF1.

And Wurz? I’d love him to be on my team, but in charge of engineering and setup, not in a seat. Wurz has probably more miles in an F1 car in testing than any other driver ever. That sort of experience would be valuable on car setup, for certain. But are we 100% certain that he’s given up on Superfund ?

Anyway, my thoughts, for what it’s worth.

]]> By: pitt layne http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2009/08/12/youth-and-experience-the-leading-candidates-for-usf1s-seats-in-2010/comment-page-3/#comment-277748 pitt layne Fri, 14 Aug 2009 06:29:20 +0000 http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/?p=23961#comment-277748 The only American qualified right now is Speed. Anyone else would need development time. At least a full season. If it aint an American driver why bother. No other team would field a Yank these days considering recent results. USF1 has to be "all in" in this. Just get someone decent and marketable. Let them develop. Otherwise this will never happen. Just like Healthcare Reform. And, have some other American drivers waiting in the wings like Torro Rosso. Third drivers, testers, G P2, whatever. There needs to be a pipeline for the flow to begin. The only American qualified right now is Speed. Anyone else would need development time. At least a full season. If it aint an American driver why bother. No other team would field a Yank these days considering recent results. USF1 has to be “all in” in this. Just get someone decent and marketable. Let them develop. Otherwise this will never happen. Just like Healthcare Reform. And, have some other American drivers waiting in the wings like Torro Rosso. Third drivers, testers, G
P2, whatever. There needs to be a pipeline for the flow to begin.

]]> By: Rich http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2009/08/12/youth-and-experience-the-leading-candidates-for-usf1s-seats-in-2010/comment-page-3/#comment-277744 Rich Fri, 14 Aug 2009 05:58:22 +0000 http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/?p=23961#comment-277744 Both team principals seem like straight shooters, which seems unusual in F1 these days. If they don't stick to their published intent to run only American drivers I'll be very disappointed in them. Both team principals seem like straight shooters, which seems unusual in F1 these days. If they don’t stick to their published intent to run only American drivers I’ll be very disappointed in them.

]]> By: The sri lankan http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2009/08/12/youth-and-experience-the-leading-candidates-for-usf1s-seats-in-2010/comment-page-3/#comment-277723 The sri lankan Fri, 14 Aug 2009 00:34:27 +0000 http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/?p=23961#comment-277723 Danica wont survive in F1. Go on gimme a bash .im not sayingf this becasuse shes a woman but loking at her racing records. this is a fact. Danica wont survive in F1. Go on gimme a bash .im not sayingf this becasuse shes a woman but loking at her racing records. this is a fact.

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