Do the punishments fit the crimes?

BAR were thrown out of a total of three races in 2005

BAR were thrown out of a total of three races in 2005

It’s highly unusual to see the FIA’s international court of appeal soften a penalty that’s been handed down to a team. But that’s exactly what happened to Renault yesterday as their one-race ban was withdrawn and they were given just a $50,000 fine.

In recent years we’ve seen multi-race bans, championship exclusions and $100m fines handed down by the FIA. Does Renault’s comparatively light punishment make sense when compared with other major controversies?

2005: BAR’s fuel tank

What the team did: BAR driver Jenson Button and Takuma Sato finished third and fifth in the San Marino Grand Prix that year. But when their cars were drained of fuel following the race – including a secondary reservoir within the fuel tank – they fell beneath the minimum weight limit.

What the FIA said: “The inspection revealed that on top of the 160 grams of fuel that was emptied, 8.92 kg of fuel still remained in a special compartment within the fuel tank and a further 2.46 kg remained in the bottom of the fuel tank. These quantities remained in the vehicle after the BAR Honda team had confirmed ‘That’s it’ when asked if the draining process was completed.”

How they were punished: Both BARs disqualified from the San Marno Grand Prix and excluded from the next two rounds, the Spanish and Monaco Grands Prix.

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2007: McLaren at the Hungaroring

Fernando Alonso blocked Lewis Hamilton in the pits during qualifying

Fernando Alonso blocked Lewis Hamilton in the pits during qualifying

What the team did: Fernando Alonso is observed to wait in his pit box during qualifying for an unusual length of time while team mate Lewis Hamilton queues behind him. Because of the delay, Hamilton is unable to complete his final lap in qualifying. McLaren later admit Hamilton had refused to let Alonso past under instruction earlier in the session.

What the FIA said: “Alonso was asked why he waited for some 10 seconds before leaving the pits after being given the signal to leave. His response was that he was enquiring as to whether the correct set of tyres had been fitted to his car. When asked why this conversation did not take place during the 20 second period when his car sat stationary all work on it having been completed, it was stated that it was not possible to communicate by radio because of the countdown being given to him.”

How they were punished: The points scored by McLaren during the race did not count towards their constructors’ championship total (a subsequent penalty rendered this irrelevant) and their representatives – except for Hamilton – are not allowed onto the podium after the race. Alonso is moved back five places on the grid.

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2007: McLaren ‘spying’

McLaren were found guilty of stealing Ferrari's intellectual property

McLaren were found guilty of stealing Ferrari's intellectual property

What the team did: McLaren designer Mike Coughlan is given a 780-page dossier by Ferrari’s Nigel Stepney, the contents of which are discussed by several people at McLaren.

What the FIA said: “The WMSC has full jurisdiction to apply Article 151(c)* and stresses that it is not necessary for it to demonstrate that any confidential Ferrari information was directly copied by McLaren or put to direct use in the McLaren car to justify a finding that Article 151(c) was breached and/or that a penalty is merited. Nor does the WMSC need to show that any information improperly held led to any specifically identified sporting advantage, or indeed any advantage at all. Rather, the WMSC is entitled to treat possession of another team?s information as an offence meriting a penalty on its own if it so chooses.”

How they were punished: McLaren are thrown out of the 2007 constructors’ championship, fined $100m, and must have their 2008 car inspected by the FIA to ensure that certain specified technologies are not present.

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2007: Renault ‘spying’

A Renault engineer was found to have McLaren data

A Renault engineer was found to have McLaren data

What the team did: During the Ferrary spying hearing, McLaren claims that a former engineer named Phil Mackereth took confidential information from McLaren to Renault when he moved jobs between the two teams.

What the FIA said: “While McLaren is right to be extremely concerned about its employee taking information upon his departure, the concern of the WMSC is not with what Mackereth took. This is a matter between McLaren and its former employee. The WMSC is concerned with what Renault had access to or was influenced by as only this could have had an impact on the Championship.”

How they were punished: Renault are not penalised: “due to the lack of evidence that the championship has been affected,” according to the FIA.

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2009: McLaren lying

Lewis Hamilton gave third place to Jarno Trulli, then lied about it

Lewis Hamilton gave third place to Jarno Trulli, then lied about it

What the team did: Lewis Hamilton passes Jarno Trulli during a safety car period in Australia, then lets the Toyota past after discussion with his team. They later tell the stewards they did not choose to let Trulli past.

What the FIA said: “The WMSC considers ?ǣ and McLaren has accepted ?ǣ that sole responsibility cannot lie with the team manager who misled the stewards and who procured Hamilton to do likewise. Rather, the course of conduct occurred over such a period of time that the WMSC finds that McLaren?s management either were aware or should have been aware that the stewards had been misled.”

How they were punished: A three-race suspension, suspended for 12 months. Lewis Hamilton disqualified from Australian Grand Prix.

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2009: Red Bull and Vettel’s crash

Vettel tried to keep going after a crash in Melbourne

Vettel tried to keep going after a crash in Melbourne

What the team did: Sebastian Vettel crashes late in the race, sustaining heavy damage. He tries to continue driving despite various components having come loose.

What the FIA said: The incident was not taken to an appeal. The stewards of the meeting claim Red Bull committed an infraction by telling Vettel to keep driving even though he had lost a wheel.

How they were punished: $50,000 fine.

2009: Renault and Alonso’s wheel

Fernando Alonso has been un-banned from the European Grand Prix

Fernando Alonso has been un-banned from the European Grand Prix

What the team did: During the Hungarian Grand Prix, Fernando Alonso’s car lost a wheel following a pit stop.

What the FIA said: “Renault knowingly released car number seven (driver Fernando Alonso) from the pit stop position without one of the retaining devices for the wheel-nuts being securely in position”

How they were punished: $50,000 fine. The original punishment handed down by the stewards of a one-race ban was rescinded.

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Fair and consistent?

Renault’s reduced penalty for the Hungaroring incident now matches the one handed down to Red Bull at Melbourne. But is it enough of a deterrent to prevent teams from taking risks with driver safety?

The scale of some of the punishments is hard to fathom – after McLaren’s huge penalty following the spygate affair, the complete lack of any penalty for Renault – even a proportionally smaller one – led to suggestions that personal differences between FIA president Max Mosley and then McLaren team principal Ron Dennis was what made the difference.

It’s also interesting to consider McLaren’s spygate penalty in the light of BAR’s two years previously. Why was a fine not imposed on BAR, and why were McLaren not given a multi-race ban? Again, it’s easy to jump to the cynical conclusion that banning McLaren from races in 2007 would have ruined an engrossing championship battle.

There is not much that rivals McLaren’s 2007 penalty for sheer size. Tyrrell’s exclusion from the 1984 season is perhaps the best example, and 25 years later that is viewed by many as a trumped-up charge, much of which was ultimately disproven, and a punishment that was levied for political reasons.

How well do these punishments fit the crimes? Which penalties were too harsh – or too soft? Have your say in the comments.

*”Any fraudulent conduct or any act prejudicial to the interests of any competition or to the interests of motor sport generally.”

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60 comments on Do the punishments fit the crimes?

  1. Tiomkin said on 18th August 2009, 13:59

    All these ‘after the event’ penalties and decisions/alterations are what have driven away a few of my friends from F1. It is pointless watching a race, seeing someone win, only for results to be altered sometimes weeks later. Someone/team gets a ban from racing, only to see them on the grid anyway. Make a decision on raceday and stick with it.

    As I said before, you wouldn’t see this nonsense in football.
    F1 needs to grow up and fast.

  2. Brawn said on 18th August 2009, 16:27

    that was soooooo funny when Alonso held up Lewis in the pits :D think that was when I first started to like him :)

    • Ned Flanders said on 18th August 2009, 17:35

      But in the end the joke was on him. The points he missed out on in that race could have cost him the championship

  3. For those who believe that the McLaren/Renault spying controversy proves inconsistency within the FIA, there is a world of difference between taking a few documents with you when clearing out your desk at your old team, and having an on-demand stream of stolen information courtesy of a mole within another team.

    • Mark Hitchcock said on 18th August 2009, 17:40

      Thay may be true but the rule the FIA used to punish Mclaren was this one:

      ”Any fraudulent conduct or any act prejudicial to the interests of any competition or to the interests of motor sport generally.”

      Which also applies to what Renault did, so their punishment should have been closer to the one Mclaren received.

  4. Another reason for HD!!

    In American football, they review the plays that are questionable to the point of it being exhausting. If they had better cameras and camera angles, a lot of the on track penalties would be much more clear to the fans.

  5. William Wilgus said on 18th August 2009, 22:25

    I can’t think of anything worse than allowing a car to exit the pits that is known to be unsafe. The race ban should have been upheld. However, as I’ve said before, the punishments for rules infractions should be stated in the rules themselves. That way, they have to be applied equally to everyone.

    • al_amana said on 19th August 2009, 0:58

      Although I agree with your opinion (upon reflection) I did initially vote for the ban to be lifted.

      On a side note. At the same time we and Keith are discussing the POLITICAL side of the sport, something I hate doing, reports are coming in that Massa should be ready for Brazil in October. Might be time to put some if not all these unflattering scandals to the side and get back to realtime events and the sport itself. It’s been a while since we’ve had a piece on aero developments for example, their impact etc etc etc
      Just my 2 cents.

  6. f1rocks said on 19th August 2009, 0:53

    What a great article.

    In other sports there are published penalties for various infringements. In Australian Rugby League for example they grade infringments based on the danger to the other player involved e.g. dangerous tackles and based on the grade of the infringement the penalty which is known by all because it’s a publsihed list is applied e.g. 2 match ban. The player can accept the penalty and be done or they can contest it through the judiciary. If they contest it at the judiciary and lose the penalty aplied is greater e.g. 3 weeks, if they win their appeal they either avoid the penalty or have it downgraded e.g. 1 match ban. The result is that most players accept the penalty and the games goes on without the politics.

    All infringements have points at so if a player has several minor infringmenets qwhere no match bans have been applied the points still tally and when the player reaches a certain tally of points a ban is automatically imposed. Major infringements e.g. punching a referee goes straight to the judiciary and again the range of penalites avaialable is known e.g. the case is thrown out all the way up to a life ban from the game. The system punishes bad beahaviour and rewards good behaviour.

    Perhaps the FIA could create a list, not based on history but draw a line in the sand and start next season. The list would need to be definitive and punishments are automatic e.g. if your driver loses a tyre on track they must move to the side of the track where it is safe to do so following the marshalls where possible. Failure to do so will cost the team US$50,000 and the team will lose all constructors points from that race.

    It’s not a perfect system but it is consitenet and all parties know the penalites and the things they can do to stay out of trouble.

  7. Leaf said on 19th August 2009, 0:54

    F1Paul is correct in his observation.
    “What concerns and bothers me most about F1 is the lack of consistency in the rules and punishments.”
    There is no consistency. Hasn’t been for years. This of course is due to the political nature of how the FIA is run. Vindictive at best. Malicious at it’s worst.
    Perhaps if Vaittenen gets elected this can change. It most certainly will not change if Todt gets in.

  8. Arun Srini said on 19th August 2009, 7:52

    There are ‘knowingly’ and ‘unknowingly’ doing wrong stuff. The latter can always be forgiven, albeit with a fine of some 50K $. The BAR and Alonso’s were deliberate, this wasn’t. End of story.

    • patrickl said on 19th August 2009, 9:51

      What wasn’t? Renault sending out Alonso before fitting the retainer? That really WAS deliberate.

      • sato113 said on 19th August 2009, 14:23

        so patrick you’re saying that renault deliberately sent alonso out like that? mental. it was obviously a MISTAKE by the mechanic.

        • Patrickl said on 19th August 2009, 19:34

          No it was not a mistake. Look at the replay.

          They decided to put a procedure in place that lets the wheel gun man signal that the wheel is ready after he fastens the wheel nut.

          After that the wheel nut retainer still needs to be fastenen.

          This means they only care that the wheel nut is fastened, but don’t give a hoot about the retainer device being installed.

          Realize that the wheel gun guy thought that the wheel nut (and thus the wheel) was installed properly. They are not that stupid.

          They only don’t care about the “silly safety measures”.

          They are DELIBERATE taking the risk that the safety device doesn’t get installed. Just to save a few milliseconds.

  9. I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again.

    I simply don’t accept the notion that the problem with FIA rulings is that they’re inconsistent, in something like a random manner, either as the result of general incompetence on the part of a given set of stewards, or the fact that the stewards change from race to race.

    When I look at FIA rulings, they seem to me to be almost perfectly consistent in serving very clear goals in the FIA’s interests, executing certain personal vendettas, commercial goals and back-room deals and bribes that maintain and extend the stranglehold of power in the governing body.

    I think we are supposed to think that events like Spa or Fuji last year were the result of clueless stewards who should have been better trained. I don’t think they were and we forget how easily these mysterious and generally anonymous people are orchestrated directly by Alan Donnelly, Mosley’s right-hand man who is personally involved in “leading” the stewards in every high-profile case and yet whose name never appears on the stewards’ rulings. For example: who “interviewed” Lewis before the Spa debacle? Donnelly. Who are the stewards answering to at every race? Right.

    It’s all too convenient to say “well, shucks, it’s a hard job ruling on all these things in the pressure cooker of an F1 event” and “the rule book is complex and subjective” and put it down to a matter of competence. It’s actually far simpler than that: the rules themselves are intentionally written with grey area and maximum latitude for race stewards or the WMSC to toy around with, including article 151c, and from there the agenda du jour (most recently the victimization of Dennis, but there have been others) is executed with almost flawless precision. The patterns are so transparently clear that it beggars belief, and yet we all sit here and talk about competence and how F1 is behind the times. It’s actually ahead of the times, from Max’s point of view – it works very well indeed.

    The decision makers here are highly competent. The stewards themselves are just avatars and puppets who have the authority to make drudge decisions but are easily steered when push comes to shove. We serve sinister interests and follow the intended script when we lament the “inconsistency” and “incompetence” of the race stewards.

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