F1 teams to abandon KERS in 2010

2010 F1 seasonPosted on | Author Keith Collantine

KERS is legal for 2010 but the teams may not use it
KERS is legal for 2010 but the teams may not use it

All bar one of F1’s 13 teams have agreed not to use KERS in 2010.

This comes after the 2010 F1 rules published by the FIA yesterday indicated they may continue to use the energy recovery technology next year.

Representatives of all 13 teams – the FOTA eight plus the previously suspended Force India and Williams, and the three newcomers Manor, Campos Meta 1 and USF1 – attended a FOTA Technical Working Group meeting in Valencia yesterday. (See here for a list of representatives)

All bar one of the teams are believed to have committed to not running KERS in 2010. The decision will now go to the F1 Commission to be considered.

It is not known which of the teams opposed the decision. Earlier this year Ferrari’s Stefano Domenicali criticised BMW for standing in the way of an agreement that could have prevented KERS being introduced. Although they are set to quit F1 at the end of the year, BMW is understood to have submitted an application for next season in the hope of selling their team, and they are still listed on the FOTA website.

Read more: F1 2010 rules: KERS to stay

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  1. I’m thrilled by that news. For some reason, I hate F1 cars being high voltage machines with the gloves and what-not.

  2. After so much investment, I think it is hard to criticise whichever tema it is. And after so much input, I would have hoped that MORE than one team would have choosen to have kept it going, although only if it was a viable opportunity for any team. Which, I suppose, it isn’t.

  3. Got to be Williams.
    Wonder what would have happened when their flywheel contraption came flying out of it’s housing at 60,000 RPM?
    Anyhow I read recently they were still working on it to get it operational for their car. (And I thought possibly for road car application?)

    1. It would severe the head of nico rosberg :( (if he’s still driving for them in 2010).


      1. the other link isn’t correct, here’s the correct one

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZD5ycWI0a8 ;)

    2. wow, 60,000rpm. That wld be fast. One wonders how this would affect the handling. With all that angular momentum, it might be a fraction less responsive round the corners. Would be very interesting to see in action against mclaren’s and ferrari’s.

  4. The 8 FOTA team agreed that they will no use KERS next year, but the other 5 can – the rules allow it…

    I think that should be cut out of the rules… after all that bull**it about costs… developing this system cost millions… So why? We is making money with this? Not the F1 Teams… Maybe Bernie, Maybe Mosley… I’d almost bet that have some shares from some companies that provide parts for the system or consulting… It all about money all always!

  5. i’ve seen a video of that williams flywheel based kers. the flywheel is located just behind the drivers head! isn’t that dangerous. just imagine what would happen if the flywheel were to break loose from the connecting shaft? it would almost certainly severe the drivers head!!Wont a Mechanical Flywheel KERS create some gyroscopic effects on the F1 cars, since they’re so sensitive to any little adjustment.Although two flywheels could cancel out the total inertia when turning, the stresses between the gyroscopes would be tremendous when turning. I think we will still need a gimbal system. what about using two discs spinning in opposite directions?? as the engine itself creates gyroscopic effect,KERS can be used to reduce it. correct me if i’m wrong.


    1. the other link isn’t correct, here’s the correct one


    2. ah i see, you were having the same thoughts as me. Wouldn’t it be interesting to see it up against mclaren’s?

  6. No Max, No KERS; what an extraordinary coincidence! Doesn’t anyone remember that the KERS concept was forced down the throats of the sport by good old Max? Most of the teams initially resisted, but had to climb aboard once BMW (curse their name!) insisted on pursuing it.

    I also think it’s the possible influence of the new teams; having to develop a KERS (or buy someone elses system) must be seen as a superfluous added expense.

    I think it will go away for a year or two and possibly make a comeback. I also agree it’s probably Williams not going along to get along. Frank always gets his monies worth on whatever he is forced to spend; possibly by selling his system to those new teams.

  7. No KERS if it is expensive

  8. Paige Michael-Shetley
    21st August 2009, 4:16

    I bet it’s Williams. They’ve already said that they’re not bound by FOTA regarding any self-determined technical “regulations” and will thus go their own way. They likely want to put their flywheel system to the test, and let’s not forget that they’ve been at loggerheads with the other teams (particularly Ferrari) the whole year.

  9. Only one team running KERS in 2010?

    Yep, It’s got to be Williams

    Winners again – soon

  10. Could be either Mclaren or Ferrari.

    Mclaren, because they are vocal in their support of KERS. Ferrari because they are the only team to have used it every race.

    KERS is a huge waste of money. The regulations limiting the use of it to just 6.6 seconds imply that you hardly have any advantage. Why did this one team have to break the ranks!!!

    Can’t be Williams. The flywheel behind driver’s head will be deemed dangerous by FIA, first thing. And in light of recent accidents, can you blame FIA?? Also, I haven’t heard a single word about the flywheel KERS since April. I am pretty sure, they have abandoned it.

    1. KERS is a huge waste of money

      sumedh, are those “Rose Tinted Spectacles” blinding you from seeing the real facts?? i suggest you clean them up :) But i’m in agreement with you regarding the williams kers.Their system is too radical & too complicated to be functional in a formula 1 car. They might just use their kers as ” a ‘bargain” to get back into FOTA.

  11. KERS is not new technology. It’s only new to F1. It was developed for road cars well before it’s introduction to F1 cars. F1 would help it’s development perhaps, but I struggle with F1 being a road car laboratory. We only see the most exotic road sports cars with real F1 tech, and I’m not talking about paddle shifters on a Pontiac Grand Prix. It doesn’t take F1 to engineer a sequequential gear box and make it road worthy. Doubtful it’s even made road cars any better (except for the exotics perhaps). Kind of like painting green stripes around tires to highlight environentalism in F1. Whatever.

    They should concentrate on rule stability and lower costs for the teams, and improving the F1 experience both at the track and on the TV for the fans. I mean, what’s the point of showing the tach on a rev-limited engine? And the KERS display is awful, never mind the complete absence of any indication of when drivers are utilizing their movable front wings. With so little passing it’s still amazing how many are missed by the TV producers trackside.

  12. I’m thinking all or nothing. Either all teams use KERS or none of the teams use it.
    And what about a system that distributes the power back to the engine constantly, from the KERS, rather than this pushing the turbo boost button as such. This way making cars run more efficiantly in genral. This could tie in well with the new no refuling regulations.

    1. How will that be achieved? Solar panels?

  13. Williams have always maintained that they are nor part of FOTA hence not bound by any agreements reached within that association.

  14. I’m not that bothered about which team won’t be abandoning KERS just yet. I find it more interesting that it is still in the rules as an available option, at a time when Max and his cronies are supposedly demanding cost cutting and fewer personnel on the teams.
    In one sense, the FOTA teams are making a mistake, as the rules are allowing them to continue development of the system, and are allowing for heavier cars too. Now is the time for the engine gurus to spend proper time at their drawing boards and work benches creating the perfect system, and they can spend all next year doing it, if need be.
    In the meantime, it would be interesting to see the KERS and non-KERS cars continue to battle it out – as mentioned earlier, it is very similar to the turbo/non-turbo battles of a previous generation, and each type of engine/car/driver combination has its advantages and disadvantages at different circuits.
    Are we really willing to sit back and watch a parade of identical cars unable to race each other because they have identical engines and identical aerodynamics? Where has the spirit of innovation, adventure and pioneering gone?

  15. Let us just hope that the FIA and FOTA can sort out the rules and regs once and for all so we can get back to what we love best – great F1 racing. Max was the “wonderkid” who insisted on KERS. Some teams took to it, some did not. Let’s have F1 back where it belongs. Great competition, great racing, great drivers. How many of you are fed up with all the controversy? I know I am. There are going to be some cars that are better and more reliable than others. I grew weary of the Schumacher/Ferrari days. We are at least getting more competition with the drivers showing their skills and the teams backing them. I tend to agree with DGR-F1 let’s have the innovation and competitive attitude back. I does get boring watching a race when the cars are just a steady stream of identical cars driving around the track. As for KERS, McLaren seem to be doing rather better now than at the beginning of the season but was all the monetary input worth it? I love F1 and of course I do have my preferred Team and driver but I really do not relish going back to the old Schumacher/Ferrari days. These drivers are skilled and at their peak so here is to 2010 where there is flexibility, safety and enjoyment of what is the best sport in the world. As for the refuelling issue – time will tell.

  16. Williams and controversy. Fitting together almost as well as McLaren fans and a persecution complex. ;)

  17. sunny stivala
    29th August 2009, 9:31

    Keith Collantine do you honestly don’t know who is the team that voted against the use of KERS next year?

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