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	<title>Comments on: Nelson Piquet Jnr wants F1 return</title>
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		<title>By: jason</title>
		<link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2009/09/21/nelson-piquet-jnr-wants-f1-return/comment-page-4/#comment-290875</link>
		<dc:creator>jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 20:46:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>of course not a life ban but for the amount of crap piquet brought down on not only the FIA but Renault when he could have easily been a man and kept him mouth shut, but no now he comes back and says hey guys forget everything bad that came out of my mouth and except me back in to FIA competition right away with no penalty screw that he should have his super licence taken away for 10+ years that way we can be safe in the knowledge that we can just race and not have to deal the child piquet and childish and foolish bulls**t</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>of course not a life ban but for the amount of crap piquet brought down on not only the FIA but Renault when he could have easily been a man and kept him mouth shut, but no now he comes back and says hey guys forget everything bad that came out of my mouth and except me back in to FIA competition right away with no penalty screw that he should have his super licence taken away for 10+ years that way we can be safe in the knowledge that we can just race and not have to deal the child piquet and childish and foolish bulls**t</p>
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		<title>By: al_amana</title>
		<link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2009/09/21/nelson-piquet-jnr-wants-f1-return/comment-page-4/#comment-290588</link>
		<dc:creator>al_amana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 05:12:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another point in relation to &quot;order&quot; is that it could almost be assumed by reading some of these self righteous comments, is that it was Piquet&#039;s idea to crash in the first place. Conversely, I do think he deserves some form of punishment for his ignorance, not a life ban or anything stupid like that just some time to reflect. The issue of the timing of his &quot;coming forward&quot; is and always was his prerogative. After all, without his allegations the whole debacle would not have been dealt with, a much greater crime in my opinion. Last but not least please don&#039;t try and tell me Alonso wasn&#039;t privy to what was going on. I think he deserves some form of punishment also. All in all now that I have written my view I realise how irrelevant and agenda based this article by Keith is. The only question I have is, what is the agenda, Keith?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another point in relation to &#8220;order&#8221; is that it could almost be assumed by reading some of these self righteous comments, is that it was Piquet&#8217;s idea to crash in the first place. Conversely, I do think he deserves some form of punishment for his ignorance, not a life ban or anything stupid like that just some time to reflect. The issue of the timing of his &#8220;coming forward&#8221; is and always was his prerogative. After all, without his allegations the whole debacle would not have been dealt with, a much greater crime in my opinion. Last but not least please don&#8217;t try and tell me Alonso wasn&#8217;t privy to what was going on. I think he deserves some form of punishment also. All in all now that I have written my view I realise how irrelevant and agenda based this article by Keith is. The only question I have is, what is the agenda, Keith?</p>
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		<title>By: al_amana</title>
		<link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2009/09/21/nelson-piquet-jnr-wants-f1-return/comment-page-4/#comment-290587</link>
		<dc:creator>al_amana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 05:10:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Daffid.</description>
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		<title>By: Pink Peril</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pink Peril</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 22:59:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I second that. While I do have some sympathy for Jnr and am sure he is sorry, I wonder which he is sorrier for. The crash, or the loss of his seat? Maybe this will be a good lesson for him, methinks Jnr has probably gotten everything he ever wanted in life. Welcome to the real world, Nelsinho !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I second that. While I do have some sympathy for Jnr and am sure he is sorry, I wonder which he is sorrier for. The crash, or the loss of his seat? Maybe this will be a good lesson for him, methinks Jnr has probably gotten everything he ever wanted in life. Welcome to the real world, Nelsinho !</p>
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		<title>By: aja</title>
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		<dc:creator>aja</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 07:40:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For Real</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For Real</p>
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		<title>By: aja</title>
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		<dc:creator>aja</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 07:31:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;BUCKET PLEASE!&quot;
Mr. Half Nelson needs a crash course in driving, period!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;BUCKET PLEASE!&#8221;<br />
Mr. Half Nelson needs a crash course in driving, period!</p>
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		<title>By: UnicornF1</title>
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		<dc:creator>UnicornF1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 08:07:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mfDB I was referring to the 2009 liegate, 
not to the 2007 spygate!!!
So please check your comments as you answered on the wrong basis...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mfDB I was referring to the 2009 liegate,<br />
not to the 2007 spygate!!!<br />
So please check your comments as you answered on the wrong basis&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Antifia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Antifia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 07:19:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bad interpretation mate. My comment had the exact intention of criticizing what I consider a somewhat discriminatory sentence in Bartholomew&#039;s comment. See the question mark in my comment. And by the way, I am Brazilian too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bad interpretation mate. My comment had the exact intention of criticizing what I consider a somewhat discriminatory sentence in Bartholomew&#8217;s comment. See the question mark in my comment. And by the way, I am Brazilian too.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruno</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bruno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 02:38:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I see. Because that is what Brazilians do when they are not driving an F1 car?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Antifia, as a brazilian, I think your comment is VERY discriminatory. You should know better about our country before make any comments like this...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I see. Because that is what Brazilians do when they are not driving an F1 car?</p></blockquote>
<p>Antifia, as a brazilian, I think your comment is VERY discriminatory. You should know better about our country before make any comments like this&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Daffid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daffid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 21:14:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can&#039;t be 110% correct, only 100%. But pedantry aside, I&#039;m afraid you&#039;ve both entirely missed my point, which is not an &#039;illogical comparison&#039; but a well established behaviour pattern backed up by decades of research, viz: people naturally follow not only orders, but even simple requests, from anyone with a semblance of authority. 

I can assure you both I intended no disrespect to any members of our armed forces especially now when they&#039;re so hard pressed in Afghanistan, I wasn&#039;t referring to them at all. 

But rather to &#039;the soldier&#039; as a general abstract concept. I&#039;d remind you that it was Soviet soldiers following orders who murdered Polish officers, German soldiers following orders that my grandmother&#039;s brothers had to face at the Somme and my dad did over Berlin... And indeed if you gaze around the world at all the armed forces of all the countries and all the wars they&#039;ve been engaged in over the years... for the vast majority of them I have no respect whatsoever. The French troops who raped and pillaged Spain at the start of the 19th century for example... following orders, and behaving reprehensibly. Israel&#039;s troops in Lebanon in the 1980s... Rwandan troops in the Congo... no, I have no respect for them either... but I&#039;m sure someone called them brave, and there are thousands... indeed millions more. The notion that soldiers are &#039;brave&#039; is I&#039;m afraid, largely untrue. Most soldiers of history have been scared conscripts, and brutal more than brave.

Besides, civilians are required to follow orders every day of their lives, what do you think traffic lights and laws are? Have you never disagreed with a boss or a teacher or a lecturer or a doctor or a magistrate but done what they asked anyway? Never? Even if you felt your whole career depended on it? Something you&#039;d worked towards all your life? 

If so, then hats off, to you. Or maybe, like most people, you&#039;ve never been in that situation and didn&#039;t have to make such a decision.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can&#8217;t be 110% correct, only 100%. But pedantry aside, I&#8217;m afraid you&#8217;ve both entirely missed my point, which is not an &#8216;illogical comparison&#8217; but a well established behaviour pattern backed up by decades of research, viz: people naturally follow not only orders, but even simple requests, from anyone with a semblance of authority. </p>
<p>I can assure you both I intended no disrespect to any members of our armed forces especially now when they&#8217;re so hard pressed in Afghanistan, I wasn&#8217;t referring to them at all. </p>
<p>But rather to &#8216;the soldier&#8217; as a general abstract concept. I&#8217;d remind you that it was Soviet soldiers following orders who murdered Polish officers, German soldiers following orders that my grandmother&#8217;s brothers had to face at the Somme and my dad did over Berlin&#8230; And indeed if you gaze around the world at all the armed forces of all the countries and all the wars they&#8217;ve been engaged in over the years&#8230; for the vast majority of them I have no respect whatsoever. The French troops who raped and pillaged Spain at the start of the 19th century for example&#8230; following orders, and behaving reprehensibly. Israel&#8217;s troops in Lebanon in the 1980s&#8230; Rwandan troops in the Congo&#8230; no, I have no respect for them either&#8230; but I&#8217;m sure someone called them brave, and there are thousands&#8230; indeed millions more. The notion that soldiers are &#8216;brave&#8217; is I&#8217;m afraid, largely untrue. Most soldiers of history have been scared conscripts, and brutal more than brave.</p>
<p>Besides, civilians are required to follow orders every day of their lives, what do you think traffic lights and laws are? Have you never disagreed with a boss or a teacher or a lecturer or a doctor or a magistrate but done what they asked anyway? Never? Even if you felt your whole career depended on it? Something you&#8217;d worked towards all your life? </p>
<p>If so, then hats off, to you. Or maybe, like most people, you&#8217;ve never been in that situation and didn&#8217;t have to make such a decision.</p>
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