There is no reason why Massa couldn’t have done his usual “panic when in traffic” and hit a car while attempting some dumb overtake (like he actually did during that race) and lost every point still.

It’s quite obvious though that if Hamilton had had to fight he would have taken a completely different strategy for Brazil though.

Ad #2) Look at Monza. Hamilton came back all the way from last spot on the grid. He stopped overtaking cars as soon as he was behind Massa.

So
A) it’s not sure Massa would have even gotten points and
B) It’s sure that Hamilton would have acted differently

The basic fact is that Renault were just as much the victim as all of us (as PROVED by their actions since finding out), out of the three people who were involved two have been punished and one walked away. Your bedroom fantasy of getting Alonso thrown out isn’t going to materialise so it’s pointless making 30 comments a day about it. I don’t like Hamilton (too smug) but I wasn’t trying to create a stampede to take his head off when he lied did I?

And onto Renault both the racing team and the company have essentially been fined so really the punishment has almost fitted the crime here. Unfortunately until it is leaked as to how much Renault and RenaultF1 have to pay we will never know if the fines were justified or not.

I’m not saying I agreed with the council’s decision, I’m just saying that I guess I see where they are coming from. Kinda.

It really looked like he was supposed to hit the outside wall and “missed”.

Hamilton had that position. Honest mistakes were made. Hamilton shouldn’t have slowed down and Trulli should not have passed.

Piquet’s premeditated action ruined a complete race. It handed Renault and Alonso a race win with a lot of points and money. A win to which they had no right at all.

Renault in reality got no punishment at all while Hamilton/McLaren was disqualified, lost the rightful podium position and TV money.

Utterly bizarre.