Comments on: Mosley says Renault got the ‘harshest penalty’ but hardly anyone agrees

By: GeorgeK

GeorgeK — Fri, 25 Sep 2009 18:09:49 +0000

Astute observation santori. I for one am still livid over the entire McLaren playout. Especially because Renault was wrist tapped previously for similar offenses, at the same time. And here they manage another team pass for a much more serious transgression.

At least Flabio has finally received his just rewards. Mike Lawernce over at Pitpass has quite an essay on his much delayed comeuppance.

By: santori

santori — Thu, 24 Sep 2009 23:14:21 +0000

I don’t think there’s nearly as much outrage as the British media would have us believe. The problem is that the British media (like every other national media)take most notice of their own so that a) they don’t pay much attention to people like Prost and Pescarolo who think the FIA got it right and b) they’re annoyed by the apparent contrast to the McLaren situation.

By: Salty

Salty — Thu, 24 Sep 2009 21:40:34 +0000

Oops. Looks like Renault just lost ING as sponsor as well…

Guess Renault is getting fined after all

By: GeorgeK

GeorgeK — Thu, 24 Sep 2009 17:09:25 +0000

“One does not cane the entire class for one boy peeing in the lemonade at the school picnic.”

A classroom is not a team sport. There was a great article in the Times concerning collective responsibility. And if there is a “Witness X” I would not hesitate to presume there are others within the team who also knew. The team deserve and earned some kind of team punishment such as reduction in points or fines.

No getting away from it, in my opinion.

By: Harv's

Harv's — Wed, 23 Sep 2009 10:06:16 +0000

……O and i must say that 08 Reanult looks quite nice with the 09 livery and slick tyres, altough the 09 Renault looks like a dogs behind!

By: Harv's

Harv's — Wed, 23 Sep 2009 10:03:33 +0000

ok if you cut a chicane then give the postion back then pass again at the next corner, and you are then stripped of your win…

…then how come if you setup the race results from the begining of the race can you not loose the win?

its a bit of a confusing question but if you can understand it please comment back!

By: Gman

Gman — Wed, 23 Sep 2009 03:44:21 +0000

FANTASTIC comment Martin….and you’re right on with it! Indeed Falv woulden’t be bothered with NASCAR, and if he ever showed up in the paddock we’d see Rick Hendrick, Joe Gibbs, and Richard Childress kick him and those dorky little glasses of his out of there at the first opportunity!!!

By: Gman

Gman — Wed, 23 Sep 2009 03:42:17 +0000

I may be in the minority, but having spent all day observing in a courtroom, I believe the punishment fits the crime here…except for Piquet.

If Flavio masterminded the whole thing, he deserves to be banned for life. Telling a driver to crash on purpose is beyond serious. I do agre with those who believe Piquet should also be banned, but I doubt he’ll really need to be, as no ne is going to be in a rush to get him on the grid….

By: Superbus

Superbus — Tue, 22 Sep 2009 23:36:55 +0000

You’re misunderstanding the concept, and the case in general. Here Nelsinho was just a tool, he wasn’t the criminal. The criminals were Briatore and Symonds.

By: Superbus

Superbus — Tue, 22 Sep 2009 23:33:01 +0000

As for Piquet’s, they are truly shameless father son duo. Their immunity was a farce. I wouldn’t want to see Piquet Jr Jr Jr Jr…… involved in the sport. That name must be banned from competing in motor sports. This talentless guy brought the entire sport into dispute. I dunno why people keep forgetting PK. At the end of the day it was his right foot that did the damage.

I think you’re being to harsh on Piquet. I do believe what the Piquet’s said. A young pilot like Nelsinho, who has been in Renault where he has been treated like total crap by an abusing manager could easily have a fragile state of mind, fragile enough to do what he did. In fact, I’m pretty sure most people (or a considerable amount of people) would do what Nelsinho did. And his father only came to try and defend his son.

For the record, I’m not a Renault or Piquet fan, I root for Ferrari.