Alonso finally confirmed as Massa’s team mate at Ferrari for 2010

Alonso thwarted Ferrari in 2006, now he will drive for them

Alonso thwarted Ferrari in 2006, now he will drive for them

Ferrari have finally confirmed what pretty much everyone in F1 expected by now – Fernando Alonso will drive for them in 2010.

Kimi Raikkonen is set to leave the team after this year’s Abu Dhabi Grand Prix and is most likely to end up back at McLaren.

Raikkonen was contracted to remain at Ferrari for one more season. Despite having won the title for them in 2007, the team are letting him go one year early in his contract, which can only be interpreted as a reflection on his performance.

Felipe Massa clearly out-performed him last year, but Raikkonen has had a resurgence in the second half of this season, including a victory at Spa-Francorchamps.

Giancarlo Fisichella will remain with the Italian team as a test driver.

The development sets up two fascinating driver partnerships for 2010, the first of which is Alonso and Massa at Ferrari.

The pair had a heated row after clashing on the final lap at the Nurburgring in 2007. Massa will in all likelihood prove the closest match to Alonso’s talent since he partnered Lewis Hamilton two seasons ago.

Hamilton, meanwhile, will surely face a stiffer challenge from Raikkonen if he does indeed take the place of Heikki Kovalainen next year.

Anyone else really looking forward to 2010 now?

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331 comments on Alonso finally confirmed as Massa’s team mate at Ferrari for 2010

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  1. Bad_Whippet said on 30th September 2009, 17:53

    Man I can’t wait for next season!

    Alonso -v- Hamilton battle is going to be immense.

    • Indeed. F1′s best driver joining its best team. I’m looking forward to it.

      • I agree will be interesting, but disagree they are the best team anymore nor is he the best driver in the field.

      • I don’t think anyone will disagree Hamilton is the best driver now, but Alonso is close. He’ll soon throw his toys out the pram when Massa regularly shows him a couple of Ferrari exhausts. Meanwhile back at McLaren Lewis will relish the competition from Kimi. If Kimi still has his heart in F1 it should be a good match, but I think Hammy will have 2 tenths on him.

        • I disagree, Alonso and Vetel are better, IMHO

          • Vettel the car destroyer? He’s good but by no means the best yet.

          • Alistair said on 30th September 2009, 20:33

            Vettel is hugely overrated. He’s struggling to beat Webber…a fate that clearly wouldn’t befall the best drivers: Lewis-Alonso-Raikkonen. Vettel is also a car destroyer who makes far too many silly mistakes.

          • Lewis and Vettel are two of the best but they are car destroyers. They are the quickest guys in F1 but need to get rid of the silly mistakes

          • ashes1991 said on 30th September 2009, 22:23

            Alonso and Vettle are better than Hamilton? I think that Alonso is probably just behind Hamilton you saw how they fought in the 2007 season? This was Hamiltons first season, he’s alot more experienced now. So easily Hamilton, then Alonso for best drivers.

            I just dont understand where vettle comes into it? Good driver yes, but no chance of him being the best, at least for the time being.

          • ashes1991 said on 30th September 2009, 22:27

            And also agree with Alistair, vettle is hugely overated!

            If the championship was for stupid mistakes then yh, Vettle would be the best driver. I still cant beleive he drove around melbourne with his car in the state it is in after hitting kubica.

          • ashes1991 said on 30th September 2009, 23:31

            There is some people really ticking me off on here. How on earth is Hamilton a car destroyer?

            Ive watched every single race he has done in F1 and can remember 1 real incident when he destroyed the car in a race and this was in monza, coming up three weeks ago, so how the hell is he a car destroyer if he has had one major car destroying incident in nearly 3 years in F1? Yes he has had incidents when he has made damage i.e. hamilton vs alonso last season at bahrain, but one fricking total is not bad!

            where as how many has german boy vettle had now? can think of a few and thats from this season

          • ashes1991 said on 1st October 2009, 13:21

            Tom, tom, tom, your list there is three that stand out for Hamiltons mistakes, Japan 08, Canada 08 and monza 09.

            Shanghai 2007, yes he may have ditched it in the gravel but did you see the tyres, i think it is amaizing he managed to keep it on the track like that. Germany i think i can remember webber moving over and accidentally touching his tyres and Brazil 07, he went off and lost a couple of positions, but what i dont understand is how its hamiltons fault if his gear box lost the gears?

            And if he was an imature car destroyer, in monaco last year he made a mistake hitting the barrier, but I think he must have done something special to get the win, whether or not the safety car helped.

            I still dont get where vettle comes into it he only has 3 race wins which is now really his 3rd season in f1 as he had a few races in 2007, if he was that good i think he would have been more consistant this year. Plus teh fact he already has 12 retirements to his name to Hamilton 3 retirements in more races and one disqualification!

            And alonso so consistant once again Hamiton has had 3 retirements and 1 DSQ, whereas Alonso in the last 3 years, same races as Ham has had 6 retirements. And teh fact that Ham beat him in his first season i still dont get where lonso is the most consistant and best after comparing them together.

        • ashes1991 said on 30th September 2009, 23:33

          *And Canada last year sorry, 2 in three years. not really bad eh?

        • i disagree derek. yes, hamilton has done exceptionally well but he hasn’t really had to prove himself in a minardi or sauber or jordan or anything. he’s walked into F1 in with the best car on the grid for his first two seasons. i think it is this season that he is showing a bit more maturity cause he has to. his experience is showing. i still think alonso is better. and vettel will be shortly.

          • ok maybe not car destroyer, but immature race destroyer:
            china 07
            fuji 08
            canada 08
            monza 09
            germany 09
            brazil 07

            like i said, showing more maturity now, but it is sill only his third year in F1, still plenty of time to improve with experience. but don’t be so blinded by his fortunate entrance to f1. and i’m sure i’ve forgotten some. as they said in the commentary at monza, alonso may not always be the fastest, but he is easily the most consistent.

          • Anthony said on 1st October 2009, 4:21

            but HOW COME he “walked into F1 with the best car”???? they gave it to him for his pretty face?? to be in a top team you have to be a top driver, and mclaren saw that in him even before he was in F1… everyone else had to prove themselves in minardi, jordan, etc…

          • ashes1991 said on 1st October 2009, 13:22

            Tom, tom, tom, your list there is three that stand out for Hamiltons mistakes, Japan 08, Canada 08 and monza 09.
            Shanghai 2007, yes he may have ditched it in the gravel but did you see the tyres, i think it is amaizing he managed to keep it on the track like that. Germany i think i can remember webber moving over and accidentally touching his tyres and Brazil 07, he went off and lost a couple of positions, but what i dont understand is how its hamiltons fault if his gear box lost the gears?
            And if he was an imature car destroyer, in monaco last year he made a mistake hitting the barrier, but I think he must have done something special to get the win, whether or not the safety car helped.
            I still dont get where vettle comes into it he only has 3 race wins which is now really his 3rd season in f1 as he had a few races in 2007, if he was that good i think he would have been more consistant this year. Plus teh fact he already has 12 retirements to his name to Hamilton 3 retirements in more races and one disqualification!
            And alonso so consistant once again Hamiton has had 3 retirements and 1 DSQ, whereas Alonso in the last 3 years, same races as Ham has had 6 retirements. And teh fact that Ham beat him in his first season i still dont get where lonso is the most consistant and best after comparing them together.

          • ashes1991 said on 1st October 2009, 13:23

            sorry posted in the wrong conversation.

          • @ ashes1991, i agree with you mostly, of course hamilton is a fantastic driver. i would certainly like to know how much of the china error was his fault or his team’s but from what i’ve read in various places, it was mostly his. brazil 07 i was not referring to the gearbox issue, of course that was not his fault, but more his overly aggressive start (like fuji 08) when he simply didn’t need to be. of course all of this is easier to speculate on in retrospect, i sure as hell wouldn’t be able to make split second decisions like an F1 driver under pressure like that, but of course that’s what their expected to do and it skill that will develop further with experience. and do you mean 3 retirements in the last three years? cause i can think of at least 4 at the mo. and germany this year, i’ve watched that footage over and over, webber holds his line, hamilton cuts in front, no way a ‘rebound off barrichello’ as some people say. don’t get me wrong though, hamilton is a wonderful driver, monaco 08, silverstone 08 china 08 and so on, absolutely in a class of his own and i expect we will see more of those performances in years to come.

          • ashes1991 said on 1st October 2009, 18:01

            Tom….

            This is a link that ive used to back up my information:

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lewis_Hamilton

            Scroll down and it will show his race results for all his career in F1, 3 retirements and 1 DSQ, because he had done over 95% of race in italy was awarded 12 place. And sorry Germany 2009 I’ve just watched it several times now, I see t as Hamilton pretty much on the racing line, running along the pit exit line and webber slightly moves over (clearly visable from the overhead shot). But thats how i see it.

        • Jonathan said on 1st October 2009, 10:43

          I don’t think anyone will disagree Hamilton is the best driver now

          I’m assuming you don’t read many F1 forums…

          What’s great about F1 right now is that there is no Schumacher figure who dominates the sport. Hamilton, Alonso and Raikkonen are all World Champions. Massa was unlucky not to be. There’s not much to tell between the four, which is why 2010 should be interesting.

        • are u kidding Hamilton better than Alonso? are u on drugs?

      • Alistair said on 30th September 2009, 20:28

        ‘F1’s best driver’? Alonso!? You mean the reigning and double world champion who was beaten by A ROOKIE! (Please tell me the last time in F1 history that that happened.) Lewis beat Alonso when Lewis didn’t even know most of the tracks, for goodness sake. Lewis is still not even at his peak; heaven help the other drivers when Lewis reaches his peak in a few seasons’ time! Aside from being slower than Lewis, Alonso cracked under the pressure of having Lewis as a team-mate in equal machinery (which the Spanish FIA representative kindly confirmed for us all).

        Lewis is the best driver in F1. He’s the fastest; the best in the wet; the best overtaker; the fittest; etc.

        PS I’m surprised that Alonso is seemingly happy to race against Massa in equal machinery. Massa is much better than the Renault no: 2s that were hired to restore Alonso’s battered reputation after being shown-up by Lewis. I therefore wonder whether Alonso now has no: 1 status at Ferrari…

        Also, I commend Kimi’s bravery if he is to sign for McLaren. I wouldn’t expect Lewis to destroy Kimi, far from it. But I think that Kimi is brave to race against Lewis in equal machinery. Autosport reports that this prospect doesn’t sit at all well with Nico Rosberg, for example, who’s apparently afraid that Lewis would destroy his reputation. One sympathises.

        • Wow… They pay you for this? :) Lewis drives in one of the best car on the field so far. When the car is worse or when he is in the middle of the back, Lewis starts to make silly mistakes. He is talented but definitely not the best on the grid. Who is? I think such comparisons are a complete nonesense.

          • his_majesty said on 1st October 2009, 1:57

            I hear that, drivers are fast at some tracks then snails at others, agile in dry sluggish in rain, quick in hot weather, dogs in cold.

        • @Alistair
          Autosport reports that this prospect doesn’t sit at all well with Nico Rosberg, for example, who’s apparently afraid that Lewis would destroy his reputation.

          I read autosport, but i never came across this… would you kindly enlighten us mere mortals? Nico has been a teammate of Lewis in junior formulae and i do not think he fears Lewis, but rather bear a healthy respect for him as a friend/ person/ driver. Why he wouldn’t consider a move to McLaren is cos it is Lewis’s den. Lewis is the homeboy there and no matter what one says, it isn’t equal opportunity!

          Also, Alonso is regarded as the best of the current crop in the F1 paddock, where people are definitely more informed than you and i. I would trust their word any day over yours, and likewise many over here.

          Lewis, he’s learning and and will only improve with time. The only thing which stands between him and his target is he himself. He needs to learn to “engage brain before opening mouth”, as someone eloquently put in one of Keith’s earlier blogs. But it would soon end as flamewars, so i’ll end it here. He’s fast and a good driver, who can make mistakes when conditions are less than ideal.

          Alonso needs to prove nothing to anyone. He won 2 championships back to back, fighting against Kimi in one year and in the second, he won against a resurgent Schumacher, which speaks for itself.

        • ‘F1’s best driver’? Alonso!? You mean the reigning and double world champion who was beaten by A ROOKIE!

          reigning world champion ?

        • @ alistair, i think most of lewis’ success was indeed alonso cracking under pressure. i think they were very evenly matched for pace. but alonso in hungary 07 really annoyed me. hopefully he’s moved on and we won’t see that again. the best way to respond would be to just drive well. and you can hardly say hamilton beat him cause they did end up on the same points. and i agree, we haven’t yet seen the best of hamilton. nor vettel, nor algersuari nor buemi. the future of f1 drivers is in good hands i feel

        • Hamilton is already quite disturbed that Kimi might join him. He is a spoiled brat with the fast smartest car on the track…give him the existing Renault and if he is still on the track you will find him in the back with his good friend Piquet…he was so spoilt by Ron to an extent that he wasn’t even sometimes listening to him… I believe in the Hungarian 2007 GP qualifications in the last dying minutes Ron asked him not to pit because Alonso was getting ready for his last qualification run…but he over ruled Ron’s decision and came into pit behind Alonso causing confusion in the pit, and panelized Alonso from Poll back to 6th on the grid…and if Alonso would have been on poll that day, sure he would have won and those extra points would have secured him the 2007championship. Ron Was so blind to support a new breed kid over a the experienced double world champion who just ended the Schumi winning era…Hamilton to me is a programmed driver with no character, but a selfish well coordinated student with a specific driving style (big f**k up in Monza)…he is a want to be a Schumi and I doubt he will ever be even close to that level.
          Yes Alonso might not be the regular/idol follower/ dream driver…but he is at least naturally talented and yes humanly react to peculiar situations but with a fighting spirit that turns all eyes on him because of his forceful driving style…The Ferrari family know exactly where they heading…Again we might very well enjoy in 2010 the human racing the robot

        • mp4-19b said on 1st October 2009, 3:15

          @Alistair

          Please tell me the last time in F1 history that that happened

          Never in the history of the sport, yet people label him the best current driver. I’ve been following the sport since 1993 & I’ve seen 10 champions drive & I rate Alonso the most mediocre of all. An all round driver needs to be honest & he’s not.

          • And Lewis? do you think he’s honest? after lying in Melbourn 09?

          • Carl 27 said on 1st October 2009, 21:56

            How old were you in 1993. 3? do you consider that to be a “follower”? I don’t get were all this hate comes from but I think you need help…

        • sato113 said on 1st October 2009, 13:17

          never thought of it like that, Alonso was beaten by a rookie in his first year.

    • Alistair said on 30th September 2009, 20:37

      We saw in 07 who was the best. The only challenge for Lewis would be if Alonso had a better car, as Massa did last year. Lewis was a rookie when he beat Alonso. This is amazing. Lewis now has quite a bit of experience and has gained maturity and confidence from winning the championship. In short, Lewis is only going to get better and better for many years as he matures as a driver; whereas, Alonso is not. So if they were in equal machinery now, Lewis would only beat Alonso more convincingly.

      • Antiriad said on 30th September 2009, 22:16

        Ha! Alonso will beat Hamilton next year and put him in his place. The overated latter who barely SCRAPED last year’s title still makes far too many errors compared to Alonso in what is now his third year of F1 driving.

        • Patrickl said on 30th September 2009, 22:29

          Hamilton has done a lot better than Alonso “the amazing car developer” this year. Besides beating him in 2007 and 2008.

        • Ned Flanders said on 30th September 2009, 22:48

          Er.. have I been watching the same F1 season as you? With the obvious exception of his crash at Monza, how many high profile driving errors has Hamilton made this year?

          And on Vettel, yes he’s made mistakes, but he’s still young, he’s had a load of bad luck with reliability and he’s absolutely destroyed the highly rated Mark Webber in qualifying, and outraced him more often than not. Remember, it’s only his second full season. So everyone get off his back.

          And Alonso- he may be a very good driver, perhaps the best, but I think it’s significant that the only time in his career that he had a top level teammate he got beat.

          • his_majesty said on 1st October 2009, 2:10

            Highly rated mark webber with one victory to his name. Lets face it in SOMETIMES the best car on the grid.

          • vettel is smashing webber?
            well if you take the averages of webbers finishing places you get 5.4, the average of vettles, comes to 5.1. hardly smashed.
            this is of couse excluding dnf’s. if you factor them in, then webber is slightly ahead of vettel.
            best to do your homework before making comments like that !

          • He beat Shumacher and Ferrari, two years… just a reminder.

          • Jonathan said on 1st October 2009, 10:57

            And Alonso- he may be a very good driver, perhaps the best, but I think it’s significant that the only time in his career that he had a top level teammate he got beat.

            The big question is, will Alonso be outpaced by Massa? If he is, his reputation will evaporate.

            He beat Schumacher and Ferrari, two years… just a reminder.

            What actually happened was that Michelin beat Bridgestone for two years, while Schumacher and Alonso watched from VIP seats.

        • Scraped… in a car that wasn’t the best… ferrari had the best car, Hamilton just made the mclaren look better for sure!

          and ppl who say he can’t handle midfield.. well he drove a good start of the season with that crappy car imo.. and every driver will do some mistakes in midfield… just happens.. spa wasn’t his fault for starters, midfield is just hell :)

        • mp4-19b said on 1st October 2009, 3:21

          @ Antiriad

          We’ll see about it.

      • Well said Alistair, and I would also add that Lewis has proved himself against Kimi too. In 07, Ferrari was basking in the cohesion and tech development of the Schumacher years; i believe they had the faster car that season, which makes what Lewis did even more stunning.

        This is what Lewis did in 07, he stunned everyone, including his team mate, with his raw pace, almost into a panic!

        I believe Lewis, given his age , his experience and the negativity he has to work against, is pound for pound the best driver on the grid today, unfortunately this does not sit well with a lot of ppl in and out of the sport.

        I think Lewis would relish the chance to partner Kimi in EQUAL machinery and given EQUAL treatment without any underhand nastiness chipping away at his confidence, it would give him the impetus to push himself even harder; which bodes well for next season…

        On the other hand, Kimi is a slugger a very brave racer but with brain power of a toaster when it comes to technical feedback, hence his five years in a McLaren produced jack and he only came good when he reversed into a well developed car/team combo thanks to uncle Schumi and co…

        …So Lewis Vs Kimi/Alonso/Vettel/Massa/Kubica etc etc or what ever “great white hope” that is parachuted into the the season.. well i say bring it on chaps and chapettes lets race and the best of British luck to ya all :)

        • I believe Lewis, given his age , his experience and the negativity he has to work against, I believe Lewis, given his age , his experience and the negativity he has to work against,

          I agree on his talent, but the negativity he has had to work against? You mean from a team that is clearly completely behind him with all their resources? or you mean from the massive F1 fan base that seems to have it in for Alonso any day of the week?

          He’s got pressures to deal with, but not beyond any F1 driver. In fact he had quite a lot of backing from the press once it became clear that he has speed and talent and is clearly the better story. Alonso has much more negativity against him, and mostly because he’s seems really inept at dealing with the media.

        • Scribe said on 1st October 2009, 0:58

          SoLid said

          On the other hand, Kimi is a slugger a very brave racer but with brain power of a toaster when it comes to technical feedback, hence his five years in a McLaren produced jack and he only came good when he reversed into a well developed car/team combo thanks to uncle Schumi and co…

          Most of kimi’s mechanical problems and car reliability issues came straight from the engine. Kimi is still held in awe by McLaren mechanics for his super precise feed back and if you can gain the respect of McLarens picky people I think you’ve got quite a head on your shoulders.

      • mp4-19b said on 1st October 2009, 3:20

        You are absolutely correct. Alonso can whine about it forever, but the fact is he’s yet to beat LEWIS HAMILTON!! If he was real man, he would have stayed on at mclaren in 08 & beat Lewis thereby showing to the world he’s the number 1. but instead he choose to run like a hen back to Flabbio. Epitome of bravery! This fella.

        • Ahem, are you rewriting history? It looked more like McLaren kicked him out, judging from the statements at the time. Nothing to do with “epitome of bravery”, he could not have stayed if he had wanted to.

    • Ronman said on 1st October 2009, 7:12

      i cant wait for next year either, can jenson and Brawn wrap this up this sunday so that they can fast forward to 2010

      • Tom Watson said on 1st October 2009, 8:22

        Was it just me who had to stop half way through this comment thread and set up base camp, it’s massssssssive! ;)

    • “Alonso -v- Hamilton battle is going to be immense”
      Yeah right… Next season will be a huge disappointment for Alonso.

  2. This is going to be one big mess. I really hope that Massa kicks his butt all over the tarmac next year, and I hope that RAI does the same to Hammy.

    • Bad_Whippet said on 30th September 2009, 17:58

      Personally, I don’t see Massa beating Alonso, or Raikkonen beating Hamilton, but that’s just MY PERSONAL OPINION (before I get jumped on!).

      It’s going to be very very interesting though, regardless of who beats who.

      • I think the most interesting thing in the case of Mclaren is the different styles oof both the drivers. In the ferarri team its more about the fireworks (fingers crossed).

      • I agree. Alonso and Hamilton are the class of the field imo, but Massa had a great year in 08.
        It might be an Alonso vs Hamilton for the title, would be awesome! :)

        • Massa did not out-perform Kimi last year. Look at all their head to head matchups, Kimi showed Massa is a 2nd rate driver.

          • Nitpicker said on 30th September 2009, 20:02

            Chuffing nonsense. We can harp on all week about who is better than who, but you can’t say Massa is a second-rate driver.

          • Antifia said on 1st October 2009, 13:35

            Yeah, that is why Ferrari is keeping Kimi…oh wait..

        • Alistair said on 30th September 2009, 20:42

          Really? We saw that already, remember. Out of the McLaren drivers, remind me again who finished higher in the WDC in 07! When Lewis beats Kimi next year, the world should rightly think that Lewis was the deserving WDC in 07: he will then have beaten his world champion team-mate, Alonso, and the man who eventually nicked the title, Kimi.

          • You, and many others, seem to be mistaken in your belief that Hamilton beat Alonso when they were team mates. Look back at the end results and you will find they drew even.
            I’m a big Hamilton fan, but facts are facts, regardless of who you support.

          • David A said on 30th September 2009, 21:38

            How can you base the deserving champion of 2007 off what YOU THINK may happen next year? Just get over the past and stop being so blinkered.

          • i agree that morally Lewis is the deserving 07 Champion and you’ll be surprised how many racing fans hold that view.. he had to battle against the reigning double world champion with the same equipment on some circuits he’s never driven on in his rookie season…meanwhile Ferrari had to hold back Massa to help the experienced Kimi to the title… by a single point from Lewis!

            and before you start… in 08 Lewis had a race win dubiously taken away from him and given to Massa, in Singapore he should have been 2nd if it wasn’t for Pique’s concrete fetish…. not to mention being the most penalized driver that season..

          • David A said on 1st October 2009, 1:59

            @SYM

            You conveniently forget that if Hamilton was going to be 2nd at Singapore, Massa would have been 1st.

          • David A
            You need to check your stats. Felipe finished 13th in Singapore because he took off with the fuel hose still attached ..Nico would have been the winner with Lewis being robbed of 2nd!

          • NickF1 said on 1st October 2009, 13:23

            Kimi won 6 races, Lewis 4. Kimi finished with more points. Kimi was the deserving champion. He beat Lewis & Alonso who had the best cars on the grid thanks to them stealing Ferrari Data, and Kimi also beat Massa who was favoured by the team. Kimi should have been 2008 champion as well, but Ferrari wanted Massa to win so they gave him the car suited to him. In the last races, Kimi even took off the car enhancements since they didn’t fit his style.

      • matt said on 1st October 2009, 4:31

        I see Raikkonen and Hamilton being very interesting, whereas Alonso will simply destroy Massa.

        • In fact, Alonso is as quick as Fisichella, this was seen many times during their time in Renault. He’s capable of winning yes, but needs 100 % support from the whole team. Alonso’s problem will be also the car, Ferrari cannot make a winning packet anymore. I’m also looking forward to see LH and Kimi in a team with a great performance.

  3. UnicornF1 said on 30th September 2009, 17:56

    Finally! I got bored the news about the “when” and “how” Alonso will move to Ferrari.

    Alonso announced at his site that last year he had signed for 2011 for the Ferrari team. Hopefully, he saved us from this misery a year earlier!

    Fair well Alonso and I hope to create a lot of trouble to the red team :P
    Oh, they didn’t tell you. You are supposed to be the #2 driver :lol:

  4. I think it’s good that this situation seems to get resolved officially now, and I’m looking forward to seeing both compete with their new team mates next season.

  5. I remember Alonso back in 2006 season saying that he will never drive for Ferrari.

    • maddlicker said on 30th September 2009, 18:18

      Was this true?

    • UnicornF1 said on 30th September 2009, 18:42

      this was said by Briatore. His exact words were:

      “As long as Michael is there, Alonso will never drive for Ferrari. For Renault there is an easy way to secure the services of Alonso – one only has to provide him with the most competitive car.”

      • So this is the picture I’m seeing… Alonso driving for Ferrari then you got Michael Schumacher as their “Advisor”. Seems like the bosses will have a hard time managing conflicts.

        • Yeah that could be a problem I agree. With Schumacher and Alonso you’ll have 2 captains on one ship.. Massa may very well benefit a lot from this. But Alonso would be wise to compare his thoughts with Schumi’s, with those 2 you have the 2 best drivers of the past decade or so in one team (in terms of car set up).

  6. Alonso vs Hamilton. Ferrari vs Mclaren.

    Hopefully back to how F1 should be next year.

    • Ned Flanders said on 30th September 2009, 22:53

      Well it’s certainly got a better ring to it than Brawn vs Red Bull, Button vs Barrichello, mediocre vs mediocrer.

  7. http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=GB&hl=en-GB&v=XWRvhA0YPgY
    video of the likkle spat.

    Tbh i kind’ve back alonso in that one get the translation and massa who did the dammage is just being a bit of a dick.

    But Yeah golden age approaches.
    Hopefully the brawns and redbulls will remain competative as well.

  8. hopefully alonso is put in his place by massa cause hes not the #1 driver at ferrari.

  9. DanThorn said on 30th September 2009, 18:08

    I don’t see Massa giving Alonso too much trouble. I really like Felipe and thought some of his drives over the last couple of years have been fantastic, but I would be amazed if he turns out as quick in Bahrain next year as he was before his accident. I really hope I’m proved wrong. If he does have the pace to match Alonso then I don’t think we’ll see a repeat of the situation at McLaren in 2007 – for Fernando, Massa is much more of a known quantity that Lewis was and I don’t think Felipe is the type to play mind games.

    The potential Raikkonen-Hamilton partnership will be interesting. Small soundbites from Lewis seem to hint that he’s not too keen on the idea, but it would be a good chance for him to show how much he’s matured from his first couple of seasons – or whether he’ll do what Alonso did in ’07. Either way, it aint gonna bother Kimi that’s for sure!

    I can’t wait for next year! If Massa can be driving as well as he was before his accident, and if Ferrari and McLaren regain their places at the top of the order then it’s going to be fantastic. Probably 4 of the best drivers in the 4 best cars, over a 19 race season with no more stupid refuelling? Yes please! If Kubica ends up at Renault and Renault find a bit of pace, and with a Rosberg-Button pairing at Brawn and the two Red Bulls on form again there could be some fantastic races. Add to that the new teams and the return of a few familiar faces and names and you have a recipe for success!

    I wonder what scandal will overshadow it all.

    • somehow Teflonso will be part of this scandal..

    • Nitpicker said on 30th September 2009, 20:11

      I really like Felipe … but I would be amazed if he turns out as quick in Bahrain next year as he was before his accident.

      Why not? Lauda had a horrific accident and came back to score a couple of championships. He appears to have a strong, confident character and I’d be surprised if he doesn’t return to F1 faster than ever.

      • RedBullRacer said on 30th September 2009, 22:41

        Also, look at how well Mark Webber’s done this season after breaking his leg last December. Sometimes an accident can spur drivers on in a new way to meet the challenges of racing. I think Felipe’s got it in him to make a strong recovery and he’ll be looking to make up for lost time when he gets back into that Ferrari.

    • George said on 1st October 2009, 4:37

      I’m slightly worried about Felipe to, you can never tell how head injuries are going to affect people.

      It’d be funny if McLaren and Ferrari turn up with two dump trucks next year after all this speculation :P.

  10. Massa did not outperfomed Kimi last year

    France 2 point broken exhaust
    Silverstone 3 points wrong tyre choice
    Canada 8 points Hamilton crashed to Kimi’s rear
    China 2 points Kimi gave way to Felipe
    Europe 3 points engine failure
    Belgium 8- 10 points ( last minute rain and Kimi taking a risk for win)

    at least 21 points which Kimi deserved but did not get. If we take those away from baby Felipe we can clearly see who is driver and who’s not.

    I’m glad Kimi understood leave this Schumacher spoiled team with their egoist “president” Luca de something

    23 pointi

    • mp4-19b said on 30th September 2009, 18:18

      Fantastic post!!

      • Anthony said on 30th September 2009, 18:31

        Ok then you have to take into account all the problems Massa had, like the refueling rig, engine problems, hydraulics, etc…. who’s who then?

    • Errr…Singapore? Hungary? That’s two races, and twenty points clawed back. Take away a bad start in Melbourne and a silly spin in Sepang, which could be compared to Kimi’s silly spin in Spa, and you begin to realise Massa was ptetty close to wiping the floor with the whole field last year.

      Take all that in to account, and to be honest, he was the best driver last year, by far. Aftert the first two Grands Prix, no-one could match him. They were chasing his exhaust fumes.

      • DanThorn said on 30th September 2009, 18:43

        The best driver last year? I think that’s over egging the pudding a little. Kubica and Alonso drove fastastic last year – indeed Kubica could have had a much better chance at the title if BMW actually listened to him. Massa’s driving last year swayed drastically from exceptional (Brazil, Hungary, Valencia, Singapore qualifying, even Fuji to some extent) to amateur (Australia, Malaysia, Silverstone). Races such as China, Belgium and France are probably more indicative of his place in the pecking order – although he seems to move to another level when he’s under pressure.

        • The best driver last year was that bloke that won the championship, eh what’s his name again…….?

          • Bad_Whippet said on 30th September 2009, 20:42

            ^ lol, this.

          • This is the most sensible comment I’ve read. Of course the best driver from last year is the guy that won the championship. The best driver from any year is the guy who won the championship for said year.

            Anyone who claims that the world champion wasn’t the best driver of the year is blinded by their fan-boy-ism of another driver.

          • Kovy said on 1st October 2009, 0:01

            So you think Button will be the best driver this year? What if he wins it without taking a single point in the last 3 rounds?

    • Nitpicker said on 30th September 2009, 20:21

      Belgium 8- 10 points ( last minute rain and Kimi taking a risk for win)

      Aren’t all the drivers taking risks to win?

      • Patrickl said on 30th September 2009, 22:31

        No. Not at all costs like Raikkonen had to do there.

        He had a poor car for a few races and had to make up the deficit to Lewis. That meant finishing ahead of him or be out of the WDC.

    • Keith Collantine (@keithcollantine) said on 30th September 2009, 21:46

      It’s a perversion of logic to give Raikkonen back all the points he lost through reliability/mistakes/whatever, but not do the same for Massa.

      • Thanks Keith, finally some sense.

        Stats can be twisted to support any argument.

        • didn’t follow F1 back in the 90′s but was villeneuve the best driver in 97? cause in the time i’ve followed f1, since 2000, he was just useless. maybe an example of not the best driver to win a championship?

          • Brian said on 1st October 2009, 15:48

            He sucked due to poor off track managment. He should not have gone to race for the team he did.

  11. Racekid said on 30th September 2009, 18:14

    This is going to be mega – internal fight between Alonso and Massa – Schumacher camp. Can’t wait for fireworks…

    • Alistair said on 30th September 2009, 20:48

      I really hope that Massa returns to his best after that awful accident. Massa needs to stamp his authority on Ferrari: they already like Massa a lot; this should help him in his battle with Alonso.

  12. Meander said on 30th September 2009, 18:15

    Is Kimi to Macca really such a done deal? How about the flirt with Brawn I read about somewhere a couple of weeks ago? I don’t think it’s too far fetched that Kimi and Rosberg go to Brawn and that one of the Brawn drivers is signed up to partner Hamilton. I’m not saying that this I what I think will happen, but it might be possible and I think w shouldn’t jump to conclusions as lo g as the other top teams and subtop have not announced their drivers.

    • UnicornF1 said on 30th September 2009, 18:17

      Barrichello already signed to Williams!
      Button to McLaren? I don’t think so…

    • I don’t think it’s too far fetched that Kimi and Rosberg go to Brawn

      Brawn will need a quite good deal with Mercedes and someone else, to pay Kimi fees.

      • othernik said on 30th September 2009, 19:15

        God, if Button moves to McLaren and they have a British trifecta, I’m never reading anything that has “f1″ and “.co.uk” in the URL. Ever. Again.

        I think i’ll learn another language and get my f1 link from that country.

    • Everything I am hearing is that Rosberg and Barrichello will trade places.

      I don’t see Kimi fitting in with the culture at Brawn. He will have enough trouble fitting in back at McLaren, if that is where he is going. I think one of Kimi’s favorite things about Ferrari was the relative lack of appearance commitments. McLaren sends its drivers all over the place in those silver shirts.

      • I wonder if Lewis can handle Kimi.
        Cause kimi’s gonna ignore the crap out of him if he tries any mind games or something like that.
        Im honnestly more of a macca fan than a fan of either so i hope that anything that goes down between them isn’t to the detriment of the team

  13. 2010 will be a cracker of a season!

    With respect to speculation around whether or not Alonso has negotiated lead status – there really will not be much opportunity for teams to “favor” one driver over another. Other than development direction, and all points seem to indicate that Alonso and Massa prefer a similar handling car, there’s no longer the opportunity to give a driver a better fuel strategy with the refueling ban in place. Perhaps a handful of development parts will have to go to one driver first, but I expect most of the season to see equally paired drivers in most teams.

    Let’s hope the soap-opera stuff is kept to a minimum – I’m not optimistic though.

    • Let’s hope the soap-opera stuff is kept to a minimum – I’m not optimistic though.

      At least one of the “Max’s brothers” will be leaving soon… hopefully!

  14. I think Alonso will do well at Ferrari, I think however with Massa still recovering this year he will have to be number 2 driver as his confidence will not be up yet.

    Bring on the Massa, Alonso partnership, despite what happened in 07 and their little dispute, you cant honestly think Alonso has held a grudge over that incident, and I don’t beleive Massa will be disappointed to be racing alongside Alonso at all. At least Alonso has character over the Iceman and Raikkonen’s performance has only marginally gotten better over the year.. I think Ferrari has made the right choice, lets just hope they can produce a competitive car for next year.

    A Raikonnen/Hamilton partnership will be interesting also, i think Raikonnen is a great driver on the edge without being too aggressive, while Hamilton is quite aggressive and lacks somewhat composure..

    Goodluck to all the drivers with their new teams!

    • Goodluck to all the drivers with their new teams!

      Totally agree with this sentiment – at the end of the day, I’d like to see the best drivers feel at home in their cars and perform to their full potential, it’s perfect for F1 and for us fans.

  15. steph90 said on 30th September 2009, 18:41

    If Kimi wants to win, then he will beat Lewis. Massa and Fernando will be very close, I thinki Massa can beat him but the problem is Fernando is always consistent always delivers and Massa may need time to get back into form with F1.
    Can’t wait for next year. How F1 should be and it’s really not that far away :)

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