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	<title>Comments on: Drivers relish Suzuka challenge (Japanese Grand Prix preview)</title>
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		<title>By: ajokay</title>
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		<dc:creator>ajokay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 16:03:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t see how the pit-lane exit has changed, It still comes out onto the end of the start/finish straight, before the first corner, like it always has.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t see how the pit-lane exit has changed, It still comes out onto the end of the start/finish straight, before the first corner, like it always has.</p>
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		<title>By: Antifia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Antifia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 14:56:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok Dougie..perhaps I came out a bit too hash. Sorry about that - I have to say that when I read a comment on the lines that since I am not an F1 driver I cannot have a meaninfull opinion about it, I tend to &quot;see things red&quot;. Returning the the subject, however, I&#039;ll desagree with you about the purpose (and lifeline) of the sport - I do think that the main rason-de-etre of F1 is entertaining us. Concerning Button, I do think that his title would have had much more meaning if he had had some sort of strong competition - either from a strong teamate or from a driver of another team with comparable equipment. The fact that he hadn&#039;t and that his career up to 2009 was rather lackluster does detract from his achievement this year in my opinion - see that Mansel won his title in similar circunstances, but at least he had by then a very strong CV. His title was somewhat overdue while this is not the impression I have about Button.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok Dougie..perhaps I came out a bit too hash. Sorry about that &#8211; I have to say that when I read a comment on the lines that since I am not an F1 driver I cannot have a meaninfull opinion about it, I tend to &#8220;see things red&#8221;. Returning the the subject, however, I&#8217;ll desagree with you about the purpose (and lifeline) of the sport &#8211; I do think that the main rason-de-etre of F1 is entertaining us. Concerning Button, I do think that his title would have had much more meaning if he had had some sort of strong competition &#8211; either from a strong teamate or from a driver of another team with comparable equipment. The fact that he hadn&#8217;t and that his career up to 2009 was rather lackluster does detract from his achievement this year in my opinion &#8211; see that Mansel won his title in similar circunstances, but at least he had by then a very strong CV. His title was somewhat overdue while this is not the impression I have about Button.</p>
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		<title>By: Dougie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dougie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 12:22:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL!! You&#039;ve taken my &quot;don&#039;t belittle&quot; statement totally out of context, I don&#039;t see the word &quot;Achievement&quot; any where in my last post. I don&#039;t know about &quot;getting real&quot; but I think you may need to calm down a wee bit :-)

Formula 1 is first and foremost a sport, whose entertainment value has been destroyed in the name of entertainment. Button and the other drivers are not doing this to entertain you, that is just a by product (and a sad one at that these days), they are doing this for their own selfish desires.

If Button wins the championship this year by scoring the most points (or, if Bernie had his way, Button would be champion already with the most wins) then he got it done when it mattered and richly deserves the title World Champion. Great names like Fangio, Andretti, Senna, Prost, Schumacher etc etc all won their championships with a superior car for the entirety of the championship, if Button manages it with a superior car (by your definition) for only the first handful of races that makes (in my view) his Championship equally if not more deserved.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL!! You&#8217;ve taken my &#8220;don&#8217;t belittle&#8221; statement totally out of context, I don&#8217;t see the word &#8220;Achievement&#8221; any where in my last post. I don&#8217;t know about &#8220;getting real&#8221; but I think you may need to calm down a wee bit <img src='http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Formula 1 is first and foremost a sport, whose entertainment value has been destroyed in the name of entertainment. Button and the other drivers are not doing this to entertain you, that is just a by product (and a sad one at that these days), they are doing this for their own selfish desires.</p>
<p>If Button wins the championship this year by scoring the most points (or, if Bernie had his way, Button would be champion already with the most wins) then he got it done when it mattered and richly deserves the title World Champion. Great names like Fangio, Andretti, Senna, Prost, Schumacher etc etc all won their championships with a superior car for the entirety of the championship, if Button manages it with a superior car (by your definition) for only the first handful of races that makes (in my view) his Championship equally if not more deserved.</p>
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		<title>By: Antifia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Antifia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 12:03:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Brawn was not the fastest car&quot;.. What are you talking about? Brawn was the best car and the fact that Button was getting all the poles shows that (he can&#039;t even get to Q3 nowadays). Besides, one looks at lap charts when it matters - i.e. qualifying and race. Regarding Rubens&#039; performance, what part of &quot;I don&#039;t rate Rubens&quot; you don&#039;t understand? Finally, in relation to the &quot;don&#039;t be-little Button&#039;s achievement from the confort of your arm-chair&quot; comment, well, get real. Who do you think these drivers are? Holly-men? Are they striving to get the cure for cancer or something? The whole thing is part of the entertainment industry and I&#039;ll be the judge of who entertains me skillfully or not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Brawn was not the fastest car&#8221;.. What are you talking about? Brawn was the best car and the fact that Button was getting all the poles shows that (he can&#8217;t even get to Q3 nowadays). Besides, one looks at lap charts when it matters &#8211; i.e. qualifying and race. Regarding Rubens&#8217; performance, what part of &#8220;I don&#8217;t rate Rubens&#8221; you don&#8217;t understand? Finally, in relation to the &#8220;don&#8217;t be-little Button&#8217;s achievement from the confort of your arm-chair&#8221; comment, well, get real. Who do you think these drivers are? Holly-men? Are they striving to get the cure for cancer or something? The whole thing is part of the entertainment industry and I&#8217;ll be the judge of who entertains me skillfully or not.</p>
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		<title>By: erturista</title>
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		<dc:creator>erturista</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 22:47:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hunnylander,

I swear I read the first 200 posts, but not the last one, sorry :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hunnylander,</p>
<p>I swear I read the first 200 posts, but not the last one, sorry <img src='http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: erturista</title>
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		<dc:creator>erturista</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 22:46:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>am I the only one able to count up to 7? :) ok let&#039;s remove Glock that already raced there...

&lt;i&gt;The other six are Lewis Hamilton, Heikki Kovalainen, Romain Grosjean, Timo Glock, Jaime Alguersuari, Sebastien Buemi and home driver Kazuki Nakajima.&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>am I the only one able to count up to 7? <img src='http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  ok let&#8217;s remove Glock that already raced there&#8230;</p>
<p><i>The other six are Lewis Hamilton, Heikki Kovalainen, Romain Grosjean, Timo Glock, Jaime Alguersuari, Sebastien Buemi and home driver Kazuki Nakajima.</i></p>
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		<title>By: Dougie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dougie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 21:11:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I know I meant since then when the Brawn has been suffering Barrichello has clearly been ahead of him and he hasn’t delivered anything special.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Which is why he continues to command the championship while those around him produce sterling performances I guess... oh!!...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I know I meant since then when the Brawn has been suffering Barrichello has clearly been ahead of him and he hasn’t delivered anything special.</p></blockquote>
<p>Which is why he continues to command the championship while those around him produce sterling performances I guess&#8230; oh!!&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Dougie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dougie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 21:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well firstly, in the first 7 races of the year the Brawn was not the fastest car. They just made the least mistakes. If you don&#039;t believe me study the lap charts across the whole weekend.

In Singapore Button had to get past Nakajima and did, had to put in some fast laps when it mattered and he did. Okay so he benefited from the decision to stay out at the second crash, but don&#039;t forget he lost out big time at the first crash.

Button won 6 out of the first 7 races, the Brawn was faster you say? So why wasn&#039;t Barrichello second 6 out of 7, or why didn&#039;t Rubinho win at least one??

No doubt you rate Hamilton and his championship last year... Lewis is a great driver no doubt, but last year was won by he who didn&#039;t succeed in throwing it away, and they were both trying hard... although in Massa&#039;s case it was Ferrari, for Lewis it was the driver. The Championship is won, and richly deserved, by he who scores the most points... don&#039;t be-little Buttons championship challenge from the comfort of your own armchair, with next to no experience of what it is to be a Formula 1 driver.

If he wins, he deserved it 100%</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well firstly, in the first 7 races of the year the Brawn was not the fastest car. They just made the least mistakes. If you don&#8217;t believe me study the lap charts across the whole weekend.</p>
<p>In Singapore Button had to get past Nakajima and did, had to put in some fast laps when it mattered and he did. Okay so he benefited from the decision to stay out at the second crash, but don&#8217;t forget he lost out big time at the first crash.</p>
<p>Button won 6 out of the first 7 races, the Brawn was faster you say? So why wasn&#8217;t Barrichello second 6 out of 7, or why didn&#8217;t Rubinho win at least one??</p>
<p>No doubt you rate Hamilton and his championship last year&#8230; Lewis is a great driver no doubt, but last year was won by he who didn&#8217;t succeed in throwing it away, and they were both trying hard&#8230; although in Massa&#8217;s case it was Ferrari, for Lewis it was the driver. The Championship is won, and richly deserved, by he who scores the most points&#8230; don&#8217;t be-little Buttons championship challenge from the comfort of your own armchair, with next to no experience of what it is to be a Formula 1 driver.</p>
<p>If he wins, he deserved it 100%</p>
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		<title>By: hunnylander</title>
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		<dc:creator>hunnylander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 20:11:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Vettel is one of the &lt;strong&gt;eight&lt;/strong&gt; drivers yet to race in F1 at Suzuka although, like Adrian Sutil, he did test at the circuit in 2006. The other &lt;strong&gt;six&lt;/strong&gt; are Lewis Hamilton, Heikki Kovalainen, Romain Grosjean, Timo Glock, Jaime Alguersuari, Sebastien Buemi and home driver Kazuki Nakajima.&lt;/em&gt;

9, 7</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Vettel is one of the <strong>eight</strong> drivers yet to race in F1 at Suzuka although, like Adrian Sutil, he did test at the circuit in 2006. The other <strong>six</strong> are Lewis Hamilton, Heikki Kovalainen, Romain Grosjean, Timo Glock, Jaime Alguersuari, Sebastien Buemi and home driver Kazuki Nakajima.</em></p>
<p>9, 7</p>
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		<title>By: steph90</title>
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		<dc:creator>steph90</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 18:25:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Want the old Nurburgring :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Want the old Nurburgring <img src='http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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