2009 Japanese Grand Prix grid
2009 Japanese Grand Prix
1. Sebastian Vettel, Red Bull-Renault – 1’32.160
2. Jarno Trulli, Toyota – 1’32.220
3. Lewis Hamilton, McLaren-Mercedes – 1’32.396
4. Nick Heidfeld, BMW – 1’32.945
5. Kimi Raikkonen, Ferrari – 1’32.980
6. Rubens Barrichello, Brawn-Mercedes – 1’32.660***
7. Nico Rosberg, Williams-Toyota – 1’31.482
8. Adrian Sutil, Force India-Mercedes – 1’32.466***
9. Robert Kubica, BMW – 1’32.341
10. Jenson Button, Brawn-Mercedes – 1’32.962***
11. Heikki Kovalainen, McLaren-Mercedes – no time*
12. Jaime Alguersuari, Toro Rosso-Ferrari – no time
13. Sebastien Buemi, Toro Rosso-Ferrari – no time****
14. Giancarlo Fisichella, Ferrari – 1’31.704
15. Kazuki Nakajima, Williams-Toyota – 1’31.718
16. Fernando Alonso, Renault – 1’31.638***
17. Romain Grosjean, Renault – 1’32.073
18. Vitantonio Liuzzi, Force India-Mercedes – 1’32.087*
19. Mark Webber, Red Bull-Renault – no time**
Penalties
*five-place penalty for a gearbox change
**will start from pit lane
***five-place penalty for failing to slow down sufficiently under yellow flags
****five-place penalty for driving an unsafe car back to the pits
The penalties were applied in the following order:
17:52: Alonso (drops to 17th)
18:05: Barrichello (drops to tenth, Button sixth, Kovalainen eighth, Buemi ninth)
18:07: Button (drops to 11th, Barrichello ninth, Kovalainen seventh, Buemi eighth)
18:08: Sutil (drops to ninth, Barrichello eighth, Kovalainen sixth, Buemi seventh)
18:54: Kovalainen (drops to 11th, Sutil eighth, Barrichello seventh, Button tenth, Buemi sixth)
19:18: Buemi (drops to 11th, Sutil seventh, Barrichello sixth, Button ninth, Kovalainen tenth)
Timo Glock not starting from 14th means the drivers who qualified behind him move up a place.
Not starting:
Timo Glock, Toyota
Japanese Grand Prix
- Vettel has slight strategy advantage (Japanese Grand Prix fuel weights)
- Button, Barrichello, Alonso, Sutil and Buemi get five-place grid penalties
- Sebastian Vettel takes pole in crash-hit session (Japanese Grand Prix qualifying)
- Crashes for Alguersuari, Glock and Kovalainen halt Japan qualifying (Video)
Ali Adams said on 3rd October 2009, 17:08
Here is the CONFIRMED grid for tomorrow from http://formula-one.speedtv.com/article/f1-source-confirms-adjusted-suzuka-grid/
1 Vettel
2 Trulli
3 Hamilton
4 Heidfeld
5 Raikkonen
6 Barrichello
7 Sutil
8 Rosberg
9 Button
10 Kubica
11 Kovalainen
12 Buemi
13 Alguersuari
14 Fisichella
15 Nakajima
16 Alonso
17 Grosjean
18 Liuzzi
Pit lane: Webber
Ronman said on 3rd October 2009, 17:47
Those are lot of stars hehe… what a packed Quali that was… shame about the penalties, but i think it will give an extra spinner to the championship battle…
Keith Collantine (@keithcollantine) said on 3rd October 2009, 18:33
Glock will not be starting, according to Adam Cooper: http://twitter.com/adamcooperf1/statuses/4582636757
sato113 said on 3rd October 2009, 19:01
why is Barichello 6th now???!!!
Keith Collantine (@keithcollantine) said on 3rd October 2009, 19:01
OK I’ve taken another look at the grid given the order in which the penalties came out.
Oddly, it now seems Barrichello will start sixth, ahead of Sutil (because of the order in which the penalties were applied) and actually only losing one place, not five. He is now three places ahead of Button, instead of two.
You have to ask what is the point of giving someone a five-place grid penalty which works out as only moving them back one place.
The grid above broadly agrees with that which Adam Cooper has had confirmed by an ‘FIA source’. However he has Buemi and Kovalainen behind Kubica – I think they will start ahead of them.
sato113 said on 3rd October 2009, 19:10
how reliable is Adam Cooper? who is he?
Keith Collantine (@keithcollantine) said on 3rd October 2009, 19:15
He’s a journalist who writes for Autosport.
sato113 said on 3rd October 2009, 19:20
reliable then. read it second to this site every day.
steph90 said on 3rd October 2009, 19:34
I don’t understand Barrichello’s punishment (or maybe it’s a reward) at all, mind stewards’ decisions are baffling a lot of the time. If a close championship is their priority then it is positive in that way, but that is the only good thing.
cmcgato said on 3rd October 2009, 19:08
amazing!, changes and more changes!
Kate said on 3rd October 2009, 19:10
So Barichello speeds through a dangerous situation and will only lose one place. Kubica slows down for the yellow, sacrificing his place in Q3, yet only gains one place.
Lesson: If everyone else is ignoring yellow flags, then you should ignore them too.
RaV said on 3rd October 2009, 19:58
Sad, but true…
gabal said on 3rd October 2009, 20:29
There is also Rosberg who obeyed the flags and gained 3 places. What is the source on times penalties were given?
RaV said on 3rd October 2009, 20:49
http://fia.com/en-GB/mediacentre/f1_media/Pages/on_event.aspx
Mahir C said on 4th October 2009, 3:02
what can the stewards do, nearly all drivers behing him also got penalties.
shane said on 2nd May 2010, 16:57
But you’d move higher up the grid!
shane said on 2nd May 2010, 17:00
But you’d move higher up the grid, Kate!
sato113 said on 3rd October 2009, 19:22
‘There is some confusing as to‘ (second line)
sorry to point it out keith, should be ‘confusion’ of course.
Keith Collantine (@keithcollantine) said on 3rd October 2009, 22:45
Sorry, lack of sleep!
Betpusher said on 3rd October 2009, 20:46
Regulations say: “grid position penalties will be applied to the drivers in question in the order the offences were committed”
So i think BUEMI “offence” has to be settled after Alonso’s and BEFORE BARRICHELLO, BUTTON, SUTIL etc….
That’s my Grid: http://www.betpusher.com/formula1-suzuka-la-nuova-ipotetica-griglia-di-partenza-cambiano-gli-scenari-di-gioco/
bye
Andrew said on 3rd October 2009, 20:59
I think the key here is that the penalties should affect the grid in the order that the offences occurred, rather than in the order that the decisions were made.
I have no idea if that’s what will happen, but if sense prevails (does it ever?) I should imagine the grid will reflect that in the morning.
Betpusher said on 3rd October 2009, 21:03
is that i wanted to say.. if i speed under the Buemi’s yellow flag, Buemi has to be penalized for first…
Allan said on 3rd October 2009, 21:26
Confirmation , as if we needed, that the circus of F1 controlled by Bernie and Moseley has finally become a complete farce. Serious changes needed if this sport is to survive other than a media and money go round. Have been watching since 1962 and have never seen such a pathetic demise in a proud wonderful exciting sport. As long as money and egos are put ahead of passion and engineering this will continue. At least the drivers are safer and that truly is a great achievment. But the rest of the petty stuff is a loss to us all.
sato113 said on 3rd October 2009, 22:06
does anyone agree with me that Qualifying has become really interesting this year? and action packed. lovin this thing atm!
Keith Collantine (@keithcollantine) said on 3rd October 2009, 22:44
I think it’s just that the races haven’t been very good – but this was an unusually action-packed qualifying session!
Harv's said on 4th October 2009, 1:03
speeding through the yellow flag (or not backing off at all) should mean that the times should not be counted, barrichello and button both got into Q3 by doing it and then were able to do another flying lap once the session started again,
they gained places as they should have been knocked out in Q2 for deciding to leave it to the last minute.
Green Streamer said on 4th October 2009, 1:39
Start Grid with final or declared car weights.
Vettel – Red Bull Racing-Renault – 658.5kg (1st)
Trulli – Toyota – 655.5kg (2nd)
Hamilton – McLaren-Mercedes – 656.0kg (3rd)
Heidfeld – BMW-Sauber – 660.0kg (4th)
Raikkonen – Ferrari – 661.0kg (5th)
Rosberg – Williams-Toyota – 684.5kg (6th)
Kubica – BMW-Sauber 686.0kg (7th)
Sutil – Force India-Ferrari – 650.0kg (8th)
Barrichello – Brawn GP-Mercedes – 660.5kg (9th)
Alguersuari – Scuderia Toro Rosso-Ferrari – 682.5kg (10th)
Button – Brawn GP-Mercedes – 658.5kg (11th)
Fisichella – Ferrari – 661.5kg (12th)
Kovalainen – McLaren-Mercedes – 675.0kg (13th)
Buemi – Scuderia Toro Rosso-Ferrari – 665.4kg (14th)
Nakajima – Williams-Toyota – 695.7kg (15th)
Grosjean – Renault – 691.8kg (16th)
Alonso – Renault – 689.5kg (17th)
Liuzzi – Force India-Ferrari – 682.5kg (18th)
Glock – Toyota – N/A (19th)
Webber – Red Bull Racing-Renault – N/A (20th)
Green Streamer said on 4th October 2009, 1:44
Note Button has less fuel than Barrichello and same as Vettel!!