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	<title>Comments on: Jenson Button and Lewis Hamilton &#8211; how Britain&#8217;s world champions compare</title>
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		<title>By: ian dancan smath</title>
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		<dc:creator>ian dancan smath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 12:44:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thats a joke man.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thats a joke man.</p>
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		<title>By: ian dancan smath</title>
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		<dc:creator>ian dancan smath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 12:42:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>booyakasha

lewis the best</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>booyakasha</p>
<p>lewis the best</p>
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		<title>By: jm</title>
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		<dc:creator>jm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 11:00:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Without the Brawn DDD, there would be no justification to compare. The question about Button in 2009 would have been: &quot;when is he going to retire?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Without the Brawn DDD, there would be no justification to compare. The question about Button in 2009 would have been: &#8220;when is he going to retire?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Kisii</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kisii</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 23:23:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Next year will tell. No drastic rule changes to hide behind...and interesting to see how the teams will deal with strategy. Red Bull screwed up this year on poor strategy early on.

Jenson is more of a joker than Hamilton. I think he would be on his 3rd championship bid by now had he a better work ethic. You simply can&#039;t put all the blame on his previous teams because it never seemed like he was hungry a la Alonso. Now that is one guy that burns for it.

Next year will be Alonso vs Massa....and in the background Hamilton walking away with the championship as Ferrari asks itself why it chose to sign Alonso. There is simply too much ego around those two for it to work out, mark my words. I don&#039;t recall seeing Kimi and Massa fighting on track these last 3 years, but trust me Massa and Alonso as well will put the moves on one another, guaranteed!

I can hardly wait!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Next year will tell. No drastic rule changes to hide behind&#8230;and interesting to see how the teams will deal with strategy. Red Bull screwed up this year on poor strategy early on.</p>
<p>Jenson is more of a joker than Hamilton. I think he would be on his 3rd championship bid by now had he a better work ethic. You simply can&#8217;t put all the blame on his previous teams because it never seemed like he was hungry a la Alonso. Now that is one guy that burns for it.</p>
<p>Next year will be Alonso vs Massa&#8230;.and in the background Hamilton walking away with the championship as Ferrari asks itself why it chose to sign Alonso. There is simply too much ego around those two for it to work out, mark my words. I don&#8217;t recall seeing Kimi and Massa fighting on track these last 3 years, but trust me Massa and Alonso as well will put the moves on one another, guaranteed!</p>
<p>I can hardly wait!</p>
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		<title>By: marcus</title>
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		<dc:creator>marcus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 18:37:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hamilton has skill yes but some of his driving style is helped from the fast reflexes he has being so young. Lets see how well Lewis does when he gets close to his 30&#039;s, he wont be so agile afterwards, and he might slump for 2-3 years trying to adapt to it. He might even retire before he is 35 knowing this. 

Jensons skill has peaked late since he is a smooth racer not a Vettel or Hamilton.

I think Jenson&#039;s last few years of driving in Formula 1 will be better then Hamiltons down the line. 

Lewis would be replaced by a younger, faster driver if he cant adapt to a Jenson or Rubens style of driving.

Jenson can only get better with more races under his belt, Lewis on the otherhand can only get worse the less agile he becomes. Surely Lewis is thinking of the future and how he will have to change his style slightly so not to be a flash in the pan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hamilton has skill yes but some of his driving style is helped from the fast reflexes he has being so young. Lets see how well Lewis does when he gets close to his 30&#8242;s, he wont be so agile afterwards, and he might slump for 2-3 years trying to adapt to it. He might even retire before he is 35 knowing this. </p>
<p>Jensons skill has peaked late since he is a smooth racer not a Vettel or Hamilton.</p>
<p>I think Jenson&#8217;s last few years of driving in Formula 1 will be better then Hamiltons down the line. </p>
<p>Lewis would be replaced by a younger, faster driver if he cant adapt to a Jenson or Rubens style of driving.</p>
<p>Jenson can only get better with more races under his belt, Lewis on the otherhand can only get worse the less agile he becomes. Surely Lewis is thinking of the future and how he will have to change his style slightly so not to be a flash in the pan.</p>
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		<title>By: Damian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Damian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 17:08:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t understand why people rate Alonso so highly.

Anyone who can be beaten by a rookie can&#039;t be so good really. 

He also hardly blew Trulli away in 2004. In the first half of the year Trulli had the upper hand. Why Trulli did so badly in the second half of the year and then got sacked remains a mystery, but we only have to look at Piquet and Bourdais&#039;s(?) complaints to assume that Briatore probably had a lot to do with it.

If we accept that you only know a driver by his performance against his teammates, all we know of Alonso is that he can beat Fisichella and rookies.

Watch Massa destroy him next year. And I don&#039;t even rate Massa that highly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t understand why people rate Alonso so highly.</p>
<p>Anyone who can be beaten by a rookie can&#8217;t be so good really. </p>
<p>He also hardly blew Trulli away in 2004. In the first half of the year Trulli had the upper hand. Why Trulli did so badly in the second half of the year and then got sacked remains a mystery, but we only have to look at Piquet and Bourdais&#8217;s(?) complaints to assume that Briatore probably had a lot to do with it.</p>
<p>If we accept that you only know a driver by his performance against his teammates, all we know of Alonso is that he can beat Fisichella and rookies.</p>
<p>Watch Massa destroy him next year. And I don&#8217;t even rate Massa that highly.</p>
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		<title>By: Snow Leopard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Snow Leopard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 15:57:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do you think Hamilton would win next year&#039;s world championship if McLaren had decided to build next their &#039;10 from January 09? The Brawn car was 2 years in the making, and McLaren still managed to catch up their 2 second deficit in a half a season.

Missing stats

Button
First 7 races of 09: 6 wins out of 7 races (85.714% win rate)

Rest of Career: 1 win out of 162 races (0.00617% win rate)

Button owes a huge thank you to the double diffuser and the fact Honda gave Brawn so much money.

LH is class. He proved it with the evolution of this year&#039;s car. Most of the technical modifications of the Brawn were being made by Rubinho who helped Button to set up his car. It&#039;s no surprise that Button&#039;s results dropped off as Rubinho stopped giving him 100% of the technical advice later in the season.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you think Hamilton would win next year&#8217;s world championship if McLaren had decided to build next their &#8217;10 from January 09? The Brawn car was 2 years in the making, and McLaren still managed to catch up their 2 second deficit in a half a season.</p>
<p>Missing stats</p>
<p>Button<br />
First 7 races of 09: 6 wins out of 7 races (85.714% win rate)</p>
<p>Rest of Career: 1 win out of 162 races (0.00617% win rate)</p>
<p>Button owes a huge thank you to the double diffuser and the fact Honda gave Brawn so much money.</p>
<p>LH is class. He proved it with the evolution of this year&#8217;s car. Most of the technical modifications of the Brawn were being made by Rubinho who helped Button to set up his car. It&#8217;s no surprise that Button&#8217;s results dropped off as Rubinho stopped giving him 100% of the technical advice later in the season.</p>
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		<title>By: Snow Leopard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Snow Leopard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 15:56:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do you think Hamilton would win next year&#039;s world championship if McLaren had decided to build next their &#039;10 from January 09? The Brawn car was 2 years in the making, and McLaren still managed to catch up their 2 second deficit in a half a season.

Missing stats

Button
First 7 races of 09: 6 wins out of 7 races (85.714% win rate)

Rest of Career: 1 win out of 162 races (0.00617 win rate)

Button owes a huge thank you to the double diffuser and the fact Honda gave Brawn so much money.

LH is class. He proved it with the evolution of this year&#039;s car. Most of the technical modifications of the Brawn were being made by Rubinho who helped Button to set up his car. It&#039;s no surprise that Button&#039;s results dropped off as Rubinho stopped giving him 100% of the technical advice later in the season.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you think Hamilton would win next year&#8217;s world championship if McLaren had decided to build next their &#8217;10 from January 09? The Brawn car was 2 years in the making, and McLaren still managed to catch up their 2 second deficit in a half a season.</p>
<p>Missing stats</p>
<p>Button<br />
First 7 races of 09: 6 wins out of 7 races (85.714% win rate)</p>
<p>Rest of Career: 1 win out of 162 races (0.00617 win rate)</p>
<p>Button owes a huge thank you to the double diffuser and the fact Honda gave Brawn so much money.</p>
<p>LH is class. He proved it with the evolution of this year&#8217;s car. Most of the technical modifications of the Brawn were being made by Rubinho who helped Button to set up his car. It&#8217;s no surprise that Button&#8217;s results dropped off as Rubinho stopped giving him 100% of the technical advice later in the season.</p>
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		<title>By: AP</title>
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		<dc:creator>AP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 14:24:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m no LH fanboi by ant stretch but he is by far a better talent than JB.

But the pure resilience of JB after so many years of having a car that was a bad of dung. LH had a baad car for half a season and was thowing his toys out of the pram. How would he handle having more than a few lean years? 
Alonso has worked his way theu the ranks became a double WDC walked away from a race winning team after felling short changed by the team that courted him to joined them and then had a few lean years again...yet he is still the best or most highly rated driver on the grid.

Another driver to add to the list is Webber, while no LH, Webber has always out gunned all is team mates bar this year...and only just been shaded this year mind you. He has always wrung the neck out of every car he had and made it perform better than it should on paper.

Greatness is more than just winning a WDC and that IMHO is something LH (and his fan) have to figure out. Hill won a WDC but isnt even on the list of greats, Montoya never won but he  would be rated higher on the &#039;greats&#039; list. Another all time great would be Stirling Moss as an example. 

WDC doesn&#039;t make you a great...The greats are few and far between...we were blessed in the 80&#039;s-90&#039;s to have a higher than normal amount of them. 

LH does have the makings to be one of the greats but that will depend on him and how he manages his destiny rather than he and his father manipulating his ego.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m no LH fanboi by ant stretch but he is by far a better talent than JB.</p>
<p>But the pure resilience of JB after so many years of having a car that was a bad of dung. LH had a baad car for half a season and was thowing his toys out of the pram. How would he handle having more than a few lean years?<br />
Alonso has worked his way theu the ranks became a double WDC walked away from a race winning team after felling short changed by the team that courted him to joined them and then had a few lean years again&#8230;yet he is still the best or most highly rated driver on the grid.</p>
<p>Another driver to add to the list is Webber, while no LH, Webber has always out gunned all is team mates bar this year&#8230;and only just been shaded this year mind you. He has always wrung the neck out of every car he had and made it perform better than it should on paper.</p>
<p>Greatness is more than just winning a WDC and that IMHO is something LH (and his fan) have to figure out. Hill won a WDC but isnt even on the list of greats, Montoya never won but he  would be rated higher on the &#8216;greats&#8217; list. Another all time great would be Stirling Moss as an example. </p>
<p>WDC doesn&#8217;t make you a great&#8230;The greats are few and far between&#8230;we were blessed in the 80&#8242;s-90&#8242;s to have a higher than normal amount of them. </p>
<p>LH does have the makings to be one of the greats but that will depend on him and how he manages his destiny rather than he and his father manipulating his ego.</p>
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		<title>By: AP</title>
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		<dc:creator>AP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 14:02:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well planet f1 is a joke but they do speak a bit of truth here...and by that merit the same should be said of LH WDC...
Had the best car by far 2 years in a row. and he and the team bricked themselves towards the end of the season but finally had a Bradbry and fell over the line</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well planet f1 is a joke but they do speak a bit of truth here&#8230;and by that merit the same should be said of LH WDC&#8230;<br />
Had the best car by far 2 years in a row. and he and the team bricked themselves towards the end of the season but finally had a Bradbry and fell over the line</p>
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