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		<title>By: Video Production Cambridge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Video Production Cambridge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 01:06:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hindsight is a wonderfull thing....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hindsight is a wonderfull thing&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Iann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Iann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 16:00:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve always had this hunch on the real reason why manufacturer teams pull out of F1. I think they didn&#039;t really pull out on budget problems, I mean these manufacturers are huge. 
I think that the reason they pulled out is because they&#039;re not sure of their F1 team&#039;s results or competitiveness, and that they prefer to wait-and-see on future developments. Maybe they&#039;ll come back to F1? 
Once again, its just a hunch...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve always had this hunch on the real reason why manufacturer teams pull out of F1. I think they didn&#8217;t really pull out on budget problems, I mean these manufacturers are huge.<br />
I think that the reason they pulled out is because they&#8217;re not sure of their F1 team&#8217;s results or competitiveness, and that they prefer to wait-and-see on future developments. Maybe they&#8217;ll come back to F1?<br />
Once again, its just a hunch&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Angus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Angus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 19:29:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Honda, BMW, Toyota, Mercedes and Renault/Nissan are all Global car Manufacturers and invest in F1 for Brand exposure, their Major market is the USA but there is no US Grand Prix.
We have endured a year of politics in F1 and not much promotion of what is important to global brand manufacturers, no wonder they are leaving, they can get better exposure by investing in other forms of motor sport.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Honda, BMW, Toyota, Mercedes and Renault/Nissan are all Global car Manufacturers and invest in F1 for Brand exposure, their Major market is the USA but there is no US Grand Prix.<br />
We have endured a year of politics in F1 and not much promotion of what is important to global brand manufacturers, no wonder they are leaving, they can get better exposure by investing in other forms of motor sport.</p>
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		<title>By: GooddayBruce</title>
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		<dc:creator>GooddayBruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 13:35:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mosley was correct in saying that costs were too high and also correct in saying that manufacturers would not stay loyal to the sport. 

However, as always with Mosley he says whatever he has to to get what he really wants. FOTA had created a strong union between the teams and was lead by the factory outfits. the were threatening Max and Bernie&#039;s control so they tried to split them . This didn&#039;t work and so now they have tried to eliminate them one by one. Pulling the rug out from under FOTA&#039;s feet.

Classic Max, and absolutely nothing to do with anything other than consolidating his position. Happily, this time it didn&#039;t work!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mosley was correct in saying that costs were too high and also correct in saying that manufacturers would not stay loyal to the sport. </p>
<p>However, as always with Mosley he says whatever he has to to get what he really wants. FOTA had created a strong union between the teams and was lead by the factory outfits. the were threatening Max and Bernie&#8217;s control so they tried to split them . This didn&#8217;t work and so now they have tried to eliminate them one by one. Pulling the rug out from under FOTA&#8217;s feet.</p>
<p>Classic Max, and absolutely nothing to do with anything other than consolidating his position. Happily, this time it didn&#8217;t work!</p>
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		<title>By: PJA</title>
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		<dc:creator>PJA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 11:00:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If a manufacturer is not successful for several years then they will probably not want to stick around running at the back of the grid even with a budget cap.

But also if a manufacturer achieves its aims this can be a grounds for them to quit the sport, the thinking being that they have done what they set out to do and so there is no reason to continue. One of the reasons I remember being put forward for why Alonso signed with McLaren when he was winning Championships with Renault was because Renault’s long term future in the sport was not guaranteed.

Also we have seen manufacturers quit as engine suppliers while they have been at the top, such as Honda with McLaren (granted 1992 wasn’t a great season for them), or Renault with Williams in 1997.

The recession has also played a part in manufacturers leaving, even if they could justify the cost of their F1 program in terms of advertising and R&amp;D, there would be pressure to cut spending on something such as motorsport especially F1 with it’s glamorous and multi-million pound image.

The FIA isn’t blameless either, it wasn’t that long ago that Mosley favoured the manufactures over the privateers, and I don’t think the way the sport has been run in recent times have helped matters either.

Then there is Ecclestone, if the reason a manufacturer is in F1 is to sell cars, not having a Grand Prix in one of their biggest markets, North America and specifically the US, won’t help when deciding the future of their F1 team.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If a manufacturer is not successful for several years then they will probably not want to stick around running at the back of the grid even with a budget cap.</p>
<p>But also if a manufacturer achieves its aims this can be a grounds for them to quit the sport, the thinking being that they have done what they set out to do and so there is no reason to continue. One of the reasons I remember being put forward for why Alonso signed with McLaren when he was winning Championships with Renault was because Renault’s long term future in the sport was not guaranteed.</p>
<p>Also we have seen manufacturers quit as engine suppliers while they have been at the top, such as Honda with McLaren (granted 1992 wasn’t a great season for them), or Renault with Williams in 1997.</p>
<p>The recession has also played a part in manufacturers leaving, even if they could justify the cost of their F1 program in terms of advertising and R&amp;D, there would be pressure to cut spending on something such as motorsport especially F1 with it’s glamorous and multi-million pound image.</p>
<p>The FIA isn’t blameless either, it wasn’t that long ago that Mosley favoured the manufactures over the privateers, and I don’t think the way the sport has been run in recent times have helped matters either.</p>
<p>Then there is Ecclestone, if the reason a manufacturer is in F1 is to sell cars, not having a Grand Prix in one of their biggest markets, North America and specifically the US, won’t help when deciding the future of their F1 team.</p>
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		<title>By: PJA</title>
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		<dc:creator>PJA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 10:32:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well if Silverstone did have the best deal I am sure they would have signed by now considering Monaco don’t pay any fees so I would say that is the best deal.

But it doesn’t matter how good a deal Silverstone has been offered compared with other circuits, if the numbers don’t add up and it doesn’t make financial sense they shouldn’t sign it, other Grand Prix can only survive because of big government grants which personally I don’t agree with, and I think it shows that the problem is more with the deals Ecclestone offers to the circuits not the circuits themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well if Silverstone did have the best deal I am sure they would have signed by now considering Monaco don’t pay any fees so I would say that is the best deal.</p>
<p>But it doesn’t matter how good a deal Silverstone has been offered compared with other circuits, if the numbers don’t add up and it doesn’t make financial sense they shouldn’t sign it, other Grand Prix can only survive because of big government grants which personally I don’t agree with, and I think it shows that the problem is more with the deals Ecclestone offers to the circuits not the circuits themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: Dennis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dennis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 20:25:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it all has to do with the teams quitting. First there&#039;s an economic crisis going on so car manufacturers need to save some money and quitting formula 1 is a huge save. Second Ferrari is definetly right about the FIA as well. The way they have been running things in the past few years is simply inconsistent and awfull (however the party that benefitted most from that is Ferrari). But I do think the ecomonic crisis is probably the main factor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it all has to do with the teams quitting. First there&#8217;s an economic crisis going on so car manufacturers need to save some money and quitting formula 1 is a huge save. Second Ferrari is definetly right about the FIA as well. The way they have been running things in the past few years is simply inconsistent and awfull (however the party that benefitted most from that is Ferrari). But I do think the ecomonic crisis is probably the main factor.</p>
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		<title>By: Chaz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 11:36:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They are both to blame.  The FIA for conceding a veto to Ferrari, and Ferrari for using that veto to purely suite its own needs only are just one of too many reasons.

The past few years have had me reflecting considerably what I think of as the moral and ethical demise of Ferrari who have shown themselves to be unprofessional, greedy and petulant etc.  They may have a tremendous F1 history and following but I believe manufacturers are not and should not be the rulers of F1.  Brawn, Red Bull, Force India prove my point exactly.

I have lost all respect faith and trust in Ferrari and have great difficulty believing the legitimacy of all their accolades past present and future.  The veto and desperately uneven distribution of F1 money, not to mention some woefully unprofessional press releases are again just three of many reasons why.  I&#039;m gob smacked that more are not verbal about Ferrari&#039;s disgusting antics.  Seems money can buy everything.  Shame on you.  And to think I used to be an ardent blinded or blinkered Ferrari fan (yes, shame on me too), who like many current fans just refuse to see and smell what&#039;s right in front of their noses...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They are both to blame.  The FIA for conceding a veto to Ferrari, and Ferrari for using that veto to purely suite its own needs only are just one of too many reasons.</p>
<p>The past few years have had me reflecting considerably what I think of as the moral and ethical demise of Ferrari who have shown themselves to be unprofessional, greedy and petulant etc.  They may have a tremendous F1 history and following but I believe manufacturers are not and should not be the rulers of F1.  Brawn, Red Bull, Force India prove my point exactly.</p>
<p>I have lost all respect faith and trust in Ferrari and have great difficulty believing the legitimacy of all their accolades past present and future.  The veto and desperately uneven distribution of F1 money, not to mention some woefully unprofessional press releases are again just three of many reasons why.  I&#8217;m gob smacked that more are not verbal about Ferrari&#8217;s disgusting antics.  Seems money can buy everything.  Shame on you.  And to think I used to be an ardent blinded or blinkered Ferrari fan (yes, shame on me too), who like many current fans just refuse to see and smell what&#8217;s right in front of their noses&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Patrickl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrickl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 08:18:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Besides their financial problems, Toyota already stated before the start of 2009 that they would pull the plug if there wasn&#039;t a win.

http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2009/01/21/toyota-we-must-win-in-2009/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Besides their financial problems, Toyota already stated before the start of 2009 that they would pull the plug if there wasn&#8217;t a win.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2009/01/21/toyota-we-must-win-in-2009/" rel="nofollow">http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2009/01/21/toyota-we-must-win-in-2009/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Alpha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alpha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 02:57:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>can we blame Ferrari for winning too many championship in the past decade? haha</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>can we blame Ferrari for winning too many championship in the past decade? haha</p>
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