FIA confirms new points system in 2010

Posted on | Author Keith Collantine

Trulli would move up to seventh in 2009 using the new 2010 F1 points
Trulli would move up to seventh in 2009 using the new 2010 F1 points

The new points system which was surprisingly proposed by the F1 Commssion yesterday will be used in F1 in 2010. A statement from the FIA read:

Due to the expanded grid of 13 teams, and further to the recommendation of the F1 Commission, a new points system will be in place for the 2010 season.

As discussed yesterday, the new system extends the points down to tenth place without changing the relative value of finishing first, second or third.

Other questionable changes include how the points scale increases unevenly, with a two-point jump from eighth to seventh, but only a one-point gap between seventh and sixth.

It has all the hallmarks of an ill-conceived and hastily-taken decision. If only the FIA had taken time to read the lukewarm response the proposal received here yesterday, with less than one-third of fans calling it an improvement:

Read more: Race winners could get 25 points in 2010

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84 comments on “FIA confirms new points system in 2010”

  1. Hakka…”It’ll mess up some points-based records, but those aren’t important anyway because points are only a means to various ends (championship positions) and not the end in itself.”

    Exactly…the FIA should extend everyone the courtesy of going back and recalculating every drivers points since day one, 1950, using the new system (this wouldn’t actually take all that long), then if someone wants to make comparisons between drivers of different eras they could look at an updated table…this is not to suggest that such an activity is time well spent.

    And Hakka scores again with the real change…ex-drivers as permanent stewards. One would hope the really excellent choices would tend to remain and the others…not so much!

  2. Considering that there’s no refuelling next year, which means that the fastest person in the front will most likely race ahead and win and if that happens through the whole year and seeing how many points they’re going to get, next year’s season isn’t going to be as competitive as I hoped. One or two people will dominate it.

  3. The change should make no difference to past races. You cannot compare different seasons like for like, because the cars/tyres/engines/rules/tracks were different. So what if they score more points? It’s impossible to to compare them anyway.

    It’s just the changeable nature of F1, for better or worse.

  4. Hey, I’ve got an idea. Instead, lets impliment a medal system! Oh, already suggested? Never mind. Oh, wait…..Lets try to leave politics and drama out of the sport for this year and see what it’s like just to watch racing every other weekend! Oh, right, that would be too hard. I know, lets support the new Sports Car World Championship!

  5. I wonder what the 2009 championship would look like with these points. I think Vettel would have a better chance, especially when button had some DNF’s and low ranking results near the end of the season.

    Anyone want to give it a go?

    1. HounslowBusGarage
      11th December 2009, 20:33

      Ccolanto, Keith did the analysis on this thread yesterday
      And no, it doesn’t make much difference.

  6. I think the FIA changed the scores in order to present the driver had a chance to catch up with the scores of drivers and teams who already hold leading positions in Formula One records
    1 Michael Schumacher 1369
    2 Alain Prost 798,5
    3 Ayrton Senna 614
    4 Rubens Barrichello 519
    5 David Coulthard 517
    1 Ferrari 3718,5
    2 McLaren 3265,5
    3 Williams 2519,5
    4 Lotus 1368
    5 Renault 950

    So probably for the scoring was changed so the FIA can boast records for slain in F1

  7. They should have gone the other way 3_2_1. The % would be fair, everyone 4th to last still in the hunt

  8. I think this is wrong, I thought they were trying to improve racing. This points system will make drivers more lazy. In the 90s, 26 cars raced together and only the top 6 got points.

    1. HounslowBusGarage
      11th December 2009, 22:22

      Yes, but weren’t the teams racing for ‘support’ money beyond the points system? So if Team A got better positions overall that Team B, they earned more money from the organisers. No?

  9. Prisoner Monkeys
    11th December 2009, 22:41

    Just read a pretty interesting article over at Autosport about what, exactly, the points change means for Formula One. Under the new system, every championship since 1999 would have been won by the people who won them. In fact, 2007 and 2008 would have been won by the same one-point margins that they were under the old system, and 2003 would have been decided by just four points. 1999 would have seen Eddie Irvine crowned World Champion, but he also would have been awarded that title under the 2003 system, when the value of second place was increased. So aside from the number of points awarded, it’s not a super-dramatic change.

  10. At least it’s better than the medal proposal…

  11. One effect may be to lessen the pressure on pay-driver hacks and allow teams to employ them more freely: the lower teams can hope to compete for a higher constructors ranking even with a guy who finishes consistently several places behind his teammate. This will allow the new teams to hire drivers with rich dads to help fund the teams.

  12. 7th place should be given 4 points instead of 5. Otherwise, the system is good. I approve.

    1. my sentiments exactly

  13. The old saw about pleasing all of the people some of the time and some of the people all of the time comes to mind here.
    What does it matter if there is a slight ineqity between 6th and 7th vs 7th and 8th in the grand scheme. The back of the pack will be an ever changing field so it will balance out.
    Personally I would add 5 points for pole, 5 points for most laps lead and 5 points for fastest lap a la NASCAR so to speak. It will shake up the point system so that all these ridiculous comparisons of the old vs the new are meaningless.
    It is not life and death here folks. It’s motor racing.

  14. Agree with most of the comments here with the simple addition of points for overtaking, pole position, fastest lap.

  15. This system doesn’t need too much backing because it doesn’t really change anything. The fight for the championship stays the same, unless of course it comes down to 9th and 10th place finishes making a difference and even that is close. Did some math for 2009 and these are the results of 09 v 1010 points.

    But: 95 v. 231

    Vet: 84 v. 203

    Bar: 77 v. 187

    So Vettel scored 88% of Button’s points using both systems and Rubens scored 81% of Button’s points. The new point system should have no notable impact on the championship fight, but it will have some more competition in the lower ranks.

    I think it is an improvement over the old system because the lower drivers can have more competition. It may not solve all problems but I don’t think it causes any harm

  16. Just an idea. I have always thought F1 should award some point value for: 1) pole position, and 2) fastest race lap.

  17. full ist, i hope it won’t be distorted…

    1 BUT 95 1 BUT 230,5
    2 VET 84 2 VET 203
    3 BAR 77 3 BAR 183
    4 WEB 69,5 4 WEB 175
    5 HAM 49 5 HAM 120,5
    6 RAI 48 6 RAI 119
    7 ROS 34,5 7 TRU 78
    8 TRU 32,5 8 ROS 75,5
    9 ALO 26 9 GLO 63,5
    10 GLO 24 10 ALO 62
    11 MAS 22 11 MAS 48
    12 KOV 22 12 KOV 46
    13 HEI 19 13 HEI 44
    14 KUB 17 14 KUB 44
    15 FIS 8 15 FIS 26
    16 BUE 6 16 BUE 16
    17 SUT 5 17 SUT 13
    18 KOB 3 18 KOB 8
    19 BOU 2 19 BOU 6,5
    20 NAK 5
    21 PIQ 1

  18. it did, sorry…

    01 BUT 95 – 01 BUT 230,5
    02 VET 84 – 02 VET 203
    03 BAR 77 – 03 BAR 183
    04 WEB 69,5 – 04 WEB 175
    05 HAM 49 – 05 HAM 120,5
    06 RAI 48 – 06 RAI 119
    07 ROS 34,5 – 07 TRU 78
    08 TRU 32,5 – 08 ROS 75,5
    09 ALO 26 – 09 GLO 63,5
    10 GLO 24 – 10 ALO 62
    11 MAS 22 – 11 MAS 48
    12 KOV 22 – 12 KOV 46
    13 HEI 19 – 13 HEI 44
    14 KUB 17 – 14 KUB 44
    15 FIS 8 – 15 FIS 26
    16 BUE 6 – 16 BUE 16
    17 SUT 5 – 17 SUT 13
    18 KOB 3 – 18 KOB 8
    19 BOU 2 – 19 BOU 6,5
    – 20 NAK 5
    – 21 PIQ 1

    1. i dont see why it matters that a couple of midfield drivers were switched around? surely only the top 3 really matter, and realisticly the top 1.

      and surely the incentive for the midfield teams is to be more consistently doing well.

  19. That 7th place is just weird. It’s like “oh we need 3 more cars that could get points, let’s just paste a few underneath”. Very odd indeed! I’d like to have a point for the fastest lap too. I don’t care for points for pole though, that’s qualification and not racing. Either way, I can see where the’re coming from with this system but I don’t really care about it since it doesn’t change enough. There was nothing wrong with the old system. I like the 15-12-10-8-6-5-4-3-2-1 idea as well. Not because of the “incentive to win”(the’re all competative enough, that’s the reason why they made it to the top of racing in the first place) but because it sorts out all problems the new proposed system is bringing up. That 7th place oddity needs to go!

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