Comments on: Adrian Newey says banning double diffusers won’t help overtaking

By: Chaz

Chaz — Tue, 19 Jan 2010 18:54:23 +0000

I suspected as much in a previous post. The double diffuser ban won’t change the racing much and the fuel ban will likely make things more boring and predictable. For example, how likely would we have been to get the sort of result we saw in Brazil 09 where Hamilton started 18 and finished third…

By: AP

AP — Sun, 17 Jan 2010 06:05:54 +0000

Ok I have retyped a msg 4 times in response to this and well I give up.
I cant say it with out swearing and I dont really want to write 5 pages as to how wrong almost every thing you wrote is.

By: Charley

Charley — Sun, 17 Jan 2010 01:20:54 +0000

I think formula 1 has enough technology and brains to find a chassis that won’t take all of the aero and still be able to go fairly fast. Maybe they could even look to gp2 as there is passing in there and the chassis look like the formula 1′s of 2000 . The new formula 1 chassis look like kids stuff. People miss the v10′s and the passing .

By: Charley

Charley — Sun, 17 Jan 2010 01:12:58 +0000

Formula 1 is kind of going backwards in development because they know that the old days were the good days. They’ve taken off all the winglets and fins they’ve already taken off alot of aero and they’ve gone back to slicks. Slicks provide much grip though so the lack of aero isn’t much of a decrease. The 09 cars look like the late 90′s chassis.

And this diffuser thing could be true if you look at the first 5 rounds of formula 1 there was some passing but when all the teams put on a diffuser there was hardly any unless you had a KERS system or forced your opponent to a mistake.

Lewis hamilton continues to pass anyone anywhere though and shows us that it can be done still and often.

The diffuser messes with the nose of the car behind I think it will help passing now that it is banned. I wish mclaren used it instead of brawn. maybe if mclaren used it, It would be banned at australia Q2 or something in 2009 lol.

Formula 1 is the pinnacle of auto racing. If a wheel is 10,000 so be it .

By: James

James — Sat, 16 Jan 2010 11:19:58 +0000

The only track that has barely changed compared with 20 years ago is Monaco. All of the others which are on the calander now as well as 20 years ago have had significant changes such as:

- Reprofiling of corners
- Completely changing corners, or indeed removing them
- Added/Removed Chicanes
- Different tarmac
- More run off areas
- Some tracks are a bit wider

The tracks are as much to blame.

By: Pat

Pat — Sat, 16 Jan 2010 11:12:30 +0000

Nah…. Let’s give em all different coloured smoke generators like the Red Arrows have – now that would be interesting – then we could actually see all the pretty (normally invisible) patterns that are ruining the racing with the current rules – if it wasn’t for the off track goings-on things maybe pretty boring in F1 – and I’m a life long F1 fan

By: Pat

Pat — Sat, 16 Jan 2010 10:58:53 +0000

Why don’t the FIA just impose an element on every rear wing which leaves a nice hole in the air for the following car ? – Job done

Then it will be down to the teams to concentrate on improving their mechanical grip to be better than the following car to negate this effect – therefore the greater emphasis will naturally focus on mechanical and not downforce to shoot them out of the corners quicker – or am I missing something here ?

By: Pat

Pat — Sat, 16 Jan 2010 10:52:52 +0000

here here !

By: Pat

Pat — Sat, 16 Jan 2010 10:50:47 +0000

I may not have made it clear enough – although I thought I had – I do not subscribe to re-introducing cars that bottom out because that is plain crazy as… as I said.. “it causes cars to fly off the track” what I am suggesting is fitting the Titanium blocks that are spring loaded and can withdraw into recesses as the cars move on the vertical plane – so we get the sparks back but without the danger

By: Accidental Mick

Accidental Mick — Sat, 16 Jan 2010 10:12:12 +0000

I agree with you completely. Designers will always be looking for loop holes in rules to get an advantage. That is, after all, why they are there. A simple measurement in a wind tunnel together with rigidly mounted rears wings (so they couldn’t be altered after the measurement was taken) would be transpaent and easily monitored.