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		<title>By: Keith</title>
		<link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2010/01/18/should-drivers-be-forced-to-pit-poll/comment-page-1/#comment-337240</link>
		<dc:creator>Keith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2010 16:06:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agree, however we also have to bear in mind safety - We have seen consequencies in the past with running on damaged tyres - But again the whole idea is down to drivers and preservation of the tyres. To be forced to take pit stops will inevitably change the race strategy and again make races predicatble. Lets race and see what happens</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agree, however we also have to bear in mind safety &#8211; We have seen consequencies in the past with running on damaged tyres &#8211; But again the whole idea is down to drivers and preservation of the tyres. To be forced to take pit stops will inevitably change the race strategy and again make races predicatble. Lets race and see what happens</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 23:19:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mandatory pit stops in &quot;windows&quot; is one the craptacular rules they have in V8 Supercars. No no no no no!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mandatory pit stops in &#8220;windows&#8221; is one the craptacular rules they have in V8 Supercars. No no no no no!!!</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 10:12:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I firmly believe that no refuelling will produce some cracking racing, simply because car performance will vary significantly during the race and faster cars will often be behind slower cars.

Another thing I&#039;d like is to remove the restriction on using the same compound on all corners of the car.  Quite what this achieves I don&#039;t know but it&#039;s taking away driver choice.

For me F1 should allow choice and variation in as many areas as possible, both for the driver and the designer.  A framework should be in place to make sure things don&#039;t get out of hand, but after that allow people to innovate.  Maybe there should be a 5 year window of rule stability, after which engine and aero regulations change in one go (similar to the start of last year).  

I think it&#039;s best when there is a paper-scissors-stone field and not identikit cars like there is now.  The turbo era was a typical example of this with some teams having great power but poor handling.  Deregulation of KERS would mean more of this.  Some teams would go for the Clarkson POWAH approach with the penalty of more weight.  Others would go for the Lotus approach of less weight and less power.  After a few years the best solutions would converge, hence the need for a 5 year rules refresh.

Job done! ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I firmly believe that no refuelling will produce some cracking racing, simply because car performance will vary significantly during the race and faster cars will often be behind slower cars.</p>
<p>Another thing I&#8217;d like is to remove the restriction on using the same compound on all corners of the car.  Quite what this achieves I don&#8217;t know but it&#8217;s taking away driver choice.</p>
<p>For me F1 should allow choice and variation in as many areas as possible, both for the driver and the designer.  A framework should be in place to make sure things don&#8217;t get out of hand, but after that allow people to innovate.  Maybe there should be a 5 year window of rule stability, after which engine and aero regulations change in one go (similar to the start of last year).  </p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s best when there is a paper-scissors-stone field and not identikit cars like there is now.  The turbo era was a typical example of this with some teams having great power but poor handling.  Deregulation of KERS would mean more of this.  Some teams would go for the Clarkson POWAH approach with the penalty of more weight.  Others would go for the Lotus approach of less weight and less power.  After a few years the best solutions would converge, hence the need for a 5 year rules refresh.</p>
<p>Job done! <img src='http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Keith Collantine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Keith Collantine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 09:20:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The regulations being introduced in F1 do not make any sense to me any more.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
I agree, I think this is very much &lt;a href=&quot;/2010/01/15/adrian-newey-says-banning-double-diffusers-wont-help-overtaking/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;the point Adrian Newey made last week&lt;/a&gt;. They went through a process of working out how to improve overtaking via the OWG, but quickly slipped back into their old habits of tweaking the rules on a whim with no clear goal in sight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The regulations being introduced in F1 do not make any sense to me any more.</p></blockquote>
<p>I agree, I think this is very much <a href="/2010/01/15/adrian-newey-says-banning-double-diffusers-wont-help-overtaking/" rel="nofollow">the point Adrian Newey made last week</a>. They went through a process of working out how to improve overtaking via the OWG, but quickly slipped back into their old habits of tweaking the rules on a whim with no clear goal in sight.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Northcott</title>
		<link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2010/01/18/should-drivers-be-forced-to-pit-poll/comment-page-5/#comment-321178</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen Northcott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 08:52:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, perhaps. I was a fan of Turbos back in the day also.

The thing about KERS is four fold for me:

1. We are supposed to be saving money in F1 and this was an example of regulations being badly managed to firstly introduce a costly ad-on to cars and then kick the teams that actually gave it a go in the crotch by letting the majority can it instead of having to play catch up this year. In effect making it a massive potential waste of money and R&amp;D. Although I hope we see this coming over to road cars which will perhaps make it worth it anyway.

2. It was only crippled in order to give lower order teams a chance to still compete. If they were going to allow this split of &quot;have and have nots&quot; then they should have raced two classes or simply accepted that racing is nasty like that. Put up or shut-up. Not  that I think that it&#039;s a good idea to run two classes, but neither is having a loose rule system that creates that situation, and means that it has to be crippled from day one.

3. F1 is supposed to be more environmentally friendly, and this was a step that way. Now we&#039;ve gone the opposite way. Super fast qualifying, and heavily laden cars in the beginning of the race burning more fuel and driving like dogs.

4. What has been done about overtaking for this year? Nothing. The one hope we had was something like KERS running at 100%. We have not even seen William&#039;s take on this year, which I was keen to see. Again, don&#039;t get me wrong I am not in the bleating and moaning camp about overtaking that much. On *real* tracks it&#039;s still possible. A little bit more would be nice, but then again if we keep making street circuits because the media and fair weather fans like it all to be close to the shopping malls and hotels then we&#039;re never going to see any overtaking anyway!

The regulations being introduced in F1 do not make any sense to me any more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, perhaps. I was a fan of Turbos back in the day also.</p>
<p>The thing about KERS is four fold for me:</p>
<p>1. We are supposed to be saving money in F1 and this was an example of regulations being badly managed to firstly introduce a costly ad-on to cars and then kick the teams that actually gave it a go in the crotch by letting the majority can it instead of having to play catch up this year. In effect making it a massive potential waste of money and R&amp;D. Although I hope we see this coming over to road cars which will perhaps make it worth it anyway.</p>
<p>2. It was only crippled in order to give lower order teams a chance to still compete. If they were going to allow this split of &#8220;have and have nots&#8221; then they should have raced two classes or simply accepted that racing is nasty like that. Put up or shut-up. Not  that I think that it&#8217;s a good idea to run two classes, but neither is having a loose rule system that creates that situation, and means that it has to be crippled from day one.</p>
<p>3. F1 is supposed to be more environmentally friendly, and this was a step that way. Now we&#8217;ve gone the opposite way. Super fast qualifying, and heavily laden cars in the beginning of the race burning more fuel and driving like dogs.</p>
<p>4. What has been done about overtaking for this year? Nothing. The one hope we had was something like KERS running at 100%. We have not even seen William&#8217;s take on this year, which I was keen to see. Again, don&#8217;t get me wrong I am not in the bleating and moaning camp about overtaking that much. On *real* tracks it&#8217;s still possible. A little bit more would be nice, but then again if we keep making street circuits because the media and fair weather fans like it all to be close to the shopping malls and hotels then we&#8217;re never going to see any overtaking anyway!</p>
<p>The regulations being introduced in F1 do not make any sense to me any more.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 08:29:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree although I think KERS needs to be derestricted.  In it&#039;s nobbled form last year it didn&#039;t do anything useful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree although I think KERS needs to be derestricted.  In it&#8217;s nobbled form last year it didn&#8217;t do anything useful.</p>
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		<title>By: LAK</title>
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		<dc:creator>LAK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 05:46:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@GQsm I actually voted for one mandatory pit stop, which they will probably do anyway because I think the cars still rely heavily on strategies.. I&#039;m not against them not stopping at all, specially if it&#039;s the teams wisest strategy plan, but are the cars ready for that?

I wouldn&#039;t want to see all the teams slowly evolve to mastering one favored strategy of not stopping at all. The tyre makers will also adjust and provide tyres that are more suitable, no more high grip softs..

@Sam O nice breakdown but I can&#039;t see why would they risk not stopping at all and losing it at the end because the tyres have no grip, stopping once and then either sticking to the same compound or switching to the other seems to make more sense..

Btw, what is the rule for 2010 on using both compounds, is it still mandatory? And are Bridgestone still the manufacturers?

Of course more than 1 compulsory pit stop is beyond me, it would be nothing but a waste of racing. The point of a pit stop is to provide the driver with a more reliable and faster car. If they are able to survive with no pit stops then bravo, but I think the pit stops have benefits and add suspense with all the different possible strategies..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@GQsm I actually voted for one mandatory pit stop, which they will probably do anyway because I think the cars still rely heavily on strategies.. I&#8217;m not against them not stopping at all, specially if it&#8217;s the teams wisest strategy plan, but are the cars ready for that?</p>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t want to see all the teams slowly evolve to mastering one favored strategy of not stopping at all. The tyre makers will also adjust and provide tyres that are more suitable, no more high grip softs..</p>
<p>@Sam O nice breakdown but I can&#8217;t see why would they risk not stopping at all and losing it at the end because the tyres have no grip, stopping once and then either sticking to the same compound or switching to the other seems to make more sense..</p>
<p>Btw, what is the rule for 2010 on using both compounds, is it still mandatory? And are Bridgestone still the manufacturers?</p>
<p>Of course more than 1 compulsory pit stop is beyond me, it would be nothing but a waste of racing. The point of a pit stop is to provide the driver with a more reliable and faster car. If they are able to survive with no pit stops then bravo, but I think the pit stops have benefits and add suspense with all the different possible strategies..</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Northcott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen Northcott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 02:36:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree.

I am still ticked off with the whole KERS situation. It should be mandatory this year for all teams. Period.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree.</p>
<p>I am still ticked off with the whole KERS situation. It should be mandatory this year for all teams. Period.</p>
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		<title>By: bernification</title>
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		<dc:creator>bernification</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 22:51:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Keith said- One of the ways the refuelling ban will make racing better in 2010 is that drivers will now have more flexible strategy options. 

How is banning refueling allowing teams to have more flexible strategys?

The two are mutually exclusive. I have no doubt at all that the racing will be much more predictable, with noticably less over taking.

The premise that this is a cost cutting exercise is ridiculous- the $200,000 that this will save is a drop in the ocean relative to overall budget.

It&#039;s just another slight of hand tactic to keep people busy and divert them from the underhand political manipulations that blight the sport. Come this time next year there will be a similar debate discussing how it was such a bad idea.

I really have no understanding why people are so obsessed with low fuel qualifying. Isn&#039;t the winner the one who was the fastest on the track?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keith said- One of the ways the refuelling ban will make racing better in 2010 is that drivers will now have more flexible strategy options. </p>
<p>How is banning refueling allowing teams to have more flexible strategys?</p>
<p>The two are mutually exclusive. I have no doubt at all that the racing will be much more predictable, with noticably less over taking.</p>
<p>The premise that this is a cost cutting exercise is ridiculous- the $200,000 that this will save is a drop in the ocean relative to overall budget.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s just another slight of hand tactic to keep people busy and divert them from the underhand political manipulations that blight the sport. Come this time next year there will be a similar debate discussing how it was such a bad idea.</p>
<p>I really have no understanding why people are so obsessed with low fuel qualifying. Isn&#8217;t the winner the one who was the fastest on the track?</p>
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		<title>By: HounslowBusGarage</title>
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		<dc:creator>HounslowBusGarage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 21:39:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If we have to have the rule about using two tyre grades, I sort of like the idea of making the choice more difficult for the teams. 
Bridgestne would have to make a judgement about which grade of tyre (from 1 - super hard, to 5 - supersoft) is ideal for each track. So let&#039;s say they reckon Spa is ideal for grade 2 Hard. So they don&#039;t take that grade, forcing the teams to compromise settings and strategies around (1) Super Hard and (3) Neutral grades. And it&#039;s up to the teams to manage their seven (?) sets of tyres as they wish through the race weekend.
Incidentally, has any team ever mixed the tyre grades? I.E. harder grades on the front, softer on the rear to cope with an over-steering car for example?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If we have to have the rule about using two tyre grades, I sort of like the idea of making the choice more difficult for the teams.<br />
Bridgestne would have to make a judgement about which grade of tyre (from 1 &#8211; super hard, to 5 &#8211; supersoft) is ideal for each track. So let&#8217;s say they reckon Spa is ideal for grade 2 Hard. So they don&#8217;t take that grade, forcing the teams to compromise settings and strategies around (1) Super Hard and (3) Neutral grades. And it&#8217;s up to the teams to manage their seven (?) sets of tyres as they wish through the race weekend.<br />
Incidentally, has any team ever mixed the tyre grades? I.E. harder grades on the front, softer on the rear to cope with an over-steering car for example?</p>
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