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		<title>By: Alianora La Canta</title>
		<link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2010/02/08/are-f1-ticket-prices-really-too-high/comment-page-3/#comment-330602</link>
		<dc:creator>Alianora La Canta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 19:08:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This assumes you:</p>
<p>a) have £10 a month spare after necessary expenses are paid for</p>
<p>b) can get your mum to lend you money for the flight (remember, among other things that the money must be paid back)</p>
<p>c) you can find someone nearby who supports your team (which can be difficult if your team isn&#8217;t one of the more popular ones)</p>
<p>d) £240 is enough to get you your primary expenses paid &#8211; which it isn&#8217;t in most cases. Try double or treble that, depending on where exactly your nearest race is</p>
<p>In practice, even that strategy gets you to one race every six years. Is F1 venue attendance really sustainable with people only being able to get there once in an average circuit&#8217;s contract (note that for the average track, this necessitates 600,000 spectators in the catchement area who are interested enough in F1 venue attendence to not spend on other F1-related things, let alone other hobbies)? Tickets may be too expensive for us spectators, but they&#8217;re also proving too expensive for most of the venues. The only people who actually gains from this situation are the employees of CVC and whoever they trade F1&#8242;s future with.</p>
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		<title>By: Beri</title>
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		<dc:creator>Beri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 14:14:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Im going to the GP of Spa this year. All together, my reserved place on a hump of grass will cost me £300. This includes all the drinks, food, over night stayings and karting.<br />
It is much, and it could actually be less.</p>
<p>It would be a good idea to lower the costs of organising a Grand Prix. But it would mean you have less income. Therefor my idea since a while has been the following:</p>
<p>New Grand Prix venues should pay a lot of money to actually being allowed to organise a Grand Prix. Governments or companies who actually want to organize a Grand Prix should get a contract of no more then 5 years. After these 5 years, the popularity of the venue will be examined and when it is popular enough and is profitable with the amound of spectators flocking towards the track every year, they should pay less.<br />
Via this way you get venues who have a businessplan about actually making profit. You would prevent prestige projects like Abu Dhabi, where the track itself costs almost a billion dollars, and the number/capacity is around 60.000.<br />
Ofcourse a country like Abu Dhabi can pay up for it, so there should be no problem. But a circuit like Turkey was too ambitious for its kind. Turkey is a country which does not like motor racing too much, and it shows with its amount of spectators. Turkey, in the construction that I name, would be off the calendar already by now, and making space for a new Grand Prix venue, or an old one who proved itself it the past. Such as San Marino. The wish of maximum 1 Grand Prix per country is not included in this brainfart.</p>
<p>In that way you also allow Grand Prix who are popular, but have it hard on the financial part like Spa, Nurburgring, Hockenheim, Silverstone and Monza, to be able to pay less to the FOM and become profitable.<br />
I think handling like this would encourage organizing countries to actually think before they act. It would prevent, as said before, prestige projects as well as Grand Prix organised by countries which actually have no future at all. I mean for real. A Korean Grand Prix?</p>
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		<title>By: Patrickl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrickl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 12:20:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They sold the rights on for billions. Took out a loan to pay for those billions and the interest on this loan needs to be paid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They sold the rights on for billions. Took out a loan to pay for those billions and the interest on this loan needs to be paid.</p>
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		<title>By: K</title>
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		<dc:creator>K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 02:55:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought about this also although I considered expressing it at a percentage of the average families monthly disposable income, like a GA ticket to the Chinese GP is 27% of the average Shanghai families disposable income for one month. Which is the equivalent of the average Oxfordshire family paying £301 so dad can wander around the GA areas at the British GP.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.statistics.gov.uk/articles/economic_trends/ET633RegionalHouseholdIncome.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.statistics.gov.uk/articles/economic_trends/ET633RegionalHouseholdIncome.pdf</a></p>
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		<title>By: SeattleChris</title>
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		<dc:creator>SeattleChris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 02:31:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We call them piggy-banks.  Put 10 pounds in a month for 2 years and borrow some money from your mom for the flight, then make friends with the nearest person who supports your team and then your food is covered as well.  

Next.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We call them piggy-banks.  Put 10 pounds in a month for 2 years and borrow some money from your mom for the flight, then make friends with the nearest person who supports your team and then your food is covered as well.  </p>
<p>Next.</p>
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		<title>By: SeattleChris</title>
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		<dc:creator>SeattleChris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 02:27:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not trying to come down on you, but huge F1 fans sell their kids to go!  I used to date this woman who&#039;s family had season Seattle Seahawks tickets (NFL) and they were very expensive and amazing seats and yet there were a few random guys that looked aweful that wore headsets tuned in to some station while watching the game with all sorts of old team wear and gear... my point is that this guy was a HUGE fan and he must have spent every dime he has to get this one seat.  We see the same thing at F1 events as well.  As I&#039;ve said before, the British are truly fanatical about cars and soccer (I mean football)!  
I wish the tickets were less, but I have to imagine that if they would be able to lower them enough to encourage more people to show then they would do it.  There is one thing we know about business and that is that regardless of the welfare of the sport, people or the planet, they will sell something in a manner that brings in the most money possible.  I think we are all just wishing we could pay less for tickets!  

For those of you who have kids I hear your pain and do feel that kids under 15 should be half price (provided the tickets are purchased with at least 1 adult ticket) because this would probably bring in a few more families and would also keep the interest of the sport in the upcoming generations as well.  Its kind of a no-brainer.

Finally, Cube, if you are the biggest F1 fan, go see a race from Thursday morning pit walk to the after race campground- one last barbeque and drink with the new mates- and then tell me the tickets are too expensive for the biggest fan of Formula 1.  Sell a kidney, donate eggs/sperm/blood, get a third job whatever, but see one before you judge.  While opinions are all equal, some are more qualified than others.  If you had gone we could say your opinion is subjective or biased, but as it is now we can only say they are theoretical or speculative at best.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not trying to come down on you, but huge F1 fans sell their kids to go!  I used to date this woman who&#8217;s family had season Seattle Seahawks tickets (NFL) and they were very expensive and amazing seats and yet there were a few random guys that looked aweful that wore headsets tuned in to some station while watching the game with all sorts of old team wear and gear&#8230; my point is that this guy was a HUGE fan and he must have spent every dime he has to get this one seat.  We see the same thing at F1 events as well.  As I&#8217;ve said before, the British are truly fanatical about cars and soccer (I mean football)!<br />
I wish the tickets were less, but I have to imagine that if they would be able to lower them enough to encourage more people to show then they would do it.  There is one thing we know about business and that is that regardless of the welfare of the sport, people or the planet, they will sell something in a manner that brings in the most money possible.  I think we are all just wishing we could pay less for tickets!  </p>
<p>For those of you who have kids I hear your pain and do feel that kids under 15 should be half price (provided the tickets are purchased with at least 1 adult ticket) because this would probably bring in a few more families and would also keep the interest of the sport in the upcoming generations as well.  Its kind of a no-brainer.</p>
<p>Finally, Cube, if you are the biggest F1 fan, go see a race from Thursday morning pit walk to the after race campground- one last barbeque and drink with the new mates- and then tell me the tickets are too expensive for the biggest fan of Formula 1.  Sell a kidney, donate eggs/sperm/blood, get a third job whatever, but see one before you judge.  While opinions are all equal, some are more qualified than others.  If you had gone we could say your opinion is subjective or biased, but as it is now we can only say they are theoretical or speculative at best.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 00:13:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The article says: &#8220;Paying £230 for a three-day seat at the British Grand Prix isn’t cheap.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes, it isn&#8217;t. That&#8217;s nearly half of my monthly pay. But if you add the traveling costs for us that aren&#8217;t lucky enough to have our country host a grand prix, then going to a grand prix is pretty much impossible.</p>
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		<title>By: AG</title>
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		<dc:creator>AG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 23:32:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>True. And China is also a bit misleading as the average person in Shanghai is signifigantly more wealthy then the west of China.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>True. And China is also a bit misleading as the average person in Shanghai is signifigantly more wealthy then the west of China.</p>
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		<title>By: Alianora La Canta</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alianora La Canta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 23:04:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I doubt one toilet would cover it; there seemed to be enough toilets in 2009, but they definitely wouldn&#039;t have sufficed for an extra 50,000. As for the roads in Silverstone&#039;s immediate environs...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I doubt one toilet would cover it; there seemed to be enough toilets in 2009, but they definitely wouldn&#8217;t have sufficed for an extra 50,000. As for the roads in Silverstone&#8217;s immediate environs&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Alianora La Canta</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alianora La Canta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 22:53:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The trouble is that only two circuits (Silverstone and Abu Dhabi) managed to sell out last year. This indicates that for most circuits, the price is too high. And in Istanbul&#039;s case, they must be charging way too much because even a test day at Jerez out-sold them. It&#039;s not simply a case that all circuits are expensive; it&#039;s that some are considered less value than others, either because the racing isn&#039;t as good or it costs more/is more inconvenient to get there and do the weekend.

A F1 ticket may offer better value than other sporting series, but that&#039;s no help when a lot of people can&#039;t get the money to pay for the ticket and accompanying expenses in the first place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The trouble is that only two circuits (Silverstone and Abu Dhabi) managed to sell out last year. This indicates that for most circuits, the price is too high. And in Istanbul&#8217;s case, they must be charging way too much because even a test day at Jerez out-sold them. It&#8217;s not simply a case that all circuits are expensive; it&#8217;s that some are considered less value than others, either because the racing isn&#8217;t as good or it costs more/is more inconvenient to get there and do the weekend.</p>
<p>A F1 ticket may offer better value than other sporting series, but that&#8217;s no help when a lot of people can&#8217;t get the money to pay for the ticket and accompanying expenses in the first place.</p>
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