F1 Fanatic round-up: 22/2/2010

Later this week we’ll be starting the F1 Fanatic 2010 season preview. If you’ve got an suggestions for articles please post them in the comments. Here’s today’s round-up:


Mansell and sons, open for racing business (The Sunday Times)

Nigel Mansell: “Greg is more like I was… am. Whereas Leo is more of a strategist; calmer. But we work very well together. And what we want out of this year?s race is simply a finish for the team. What really helps is that the boys are prepared to drive their hearts out, and they keep me honest and don?t fear taking me on.”

Villeneuve downplays Stefan GP comeback (Speed)

Jacques Villeneuve: “I had a chat some time ago with Stefanovich just to find out where everything was at. It was not about everything that has been written recently, it was prior to that. I?m not involved directly with anything.”

Comment of the day

MPJ1994 has been watching racing at Yas Island and wondered if F1 should try a change of circuit:

I saw the V8s at Abu Dhabi. I think that the circuit that they used, while great for the V8?s wouldn’t be so good for F1. Sure you would put in three-four good corners but you would be sacrificing an overtaking opportunity at the end of the straight as the corkscrew is single file, meaning they can?t get close at the end of the straight.

Also the different camera seemed to show the different camber of the corners better than the angles for the F1 race.

Happy birthday!

Today’s birthday shout-out goes to Rich!

On this day in F1

Two years ago today Champ Car and IRL ended their split which had lasted for more than a decade.

The series, which once attracted F1 drivers like Nigel Mansell, Mario Andretti and Emerson Fittipaldi, begins its third re-unified championship at a new street circuit in Sao Paolo on March 14th.

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82 comments on F1 Fanatic round-up: 22/2/2010

  1. Even now IRL and Champ Car are back together it’s still never going to be back to how it was. Such a big shame, I really enjoy watching the Indy Car.

    • Scribe said on 22nd February 2010, 9:33

      Well. I’m not sure. It’s getting back on it’s feet. It’s starting to attract medium stars again. The Indy 500 is still a race everyone wants to win.

      It’s certainly national popular like NASCAR or Internationaly popular lie F1, but it’s got a new Chassis comming, new races on the calender and packed out stadiums.

      An as they controll the chassis it might become the worlds only proper drafting series. Well Lets hope.

      • ajokay said on 22nd February 2010, 9:53

        I plan on trying to watch some of the Indy races on the street/road tracks. Not so bothered about the ovals, but this year I really wanna try and watch a lot more motorsport.

  2. sato113 said on 22nd February 2010, 0:42

    an article examining which driver’s should suit the new tyre rules would be great! you could compare button to hamilton, alonso to massa etc.

    • It’s probably a bit early in the season to be doing that, but the general consensus seems to be that drivers with smooth driving styles and an idea of when to ‘push’ and when to take it easy will benefit more from the new rules.

      I wouldn’t be at all surprised to see that a driver that seems to get off to a really slow start in the races comes through to finish first, just like Alain Prost used to do!

      • sato113 said on 22nd February 2010, 1:28

        it’s a bit early in terms of cars yeah, but not drivers. yes we all know generally how the drivers drive but i think keith could go through a few drivers in detail maybe.

  3. SoLiD said on 22nd February 2010, 0:42

    I think with more road courses and A new car will make it work!

  4. Plink Plonk Plunk said on 22nd February 2010, 1:47

    Check out the new Ferrari wheel nut (scroll down).

    The close ups are really cool showing the locking pin, etc.


  5. mixxmexx said on 22nd February 2010, 1:49

    Is there a crisis within the Mercedes team? Vettel suggests that things are not alright within the team and perhaps it is just psychological warfare but I never seen Schumi look so serious before. Also it has been said that Daimler chairman demands victories this season or Mercedes will pull out.

    • maciek said on 22nd February 2010, 7:17

      “never seen Schumi look so serious before”

      You haven’t been looking at him for very long, have you?

  6. manatcna said on 22nd February 2010, 2:17

    I don’t think there’s any danger of Mercedes not winning at least one or two races this year.

  7. Polishboy808 said on 22nd February 2010, 2:41

    I have one burning question…..forums?

  8. Macca said on 22nd February 2010, 3:11

    Do I get credited with an assist for the comment of the day. LOL

  9. Steve said on 22nd February 2010, 4:10

    Michael was this serious in the start of his career at Ferrari…

    nothing there to be worried about, and he knows the car is a bit behind Ferrari…. he is thinking hard to develop it, button mentioned the rears on the merc appear to lock up, so there is a weight distribution issue and they were working on a rear suspension solution…..

    moving on

    IRL has only been unified for three years and is expanding every year…. they might get pretty close again to their glory days….

    and the street circuit at Sao Paulo, for the opening race, should be awesome, with the longest straight of the season, longer than the straight at Indy… probably the longest straight ever on a street circuit

    lets rock

    • mixxmexx said on 22nd February 2010, 4:37

      or he is bitter over not sitting in the Ferrari. Alonso humiliated him in 2005 and 2006. Maybe he feels a bit bitter of not running in this beautiful F10 and Alonso does.

      • Steve said on 22nd February 2010, 4:42


        2005, terrible tires and junk car

        2006 – , leading the championship with 2 races to go, engine failure while leading the race in japan, followed by a puncture in brazil, how is that being humiliated by alonso?

        • Polishboy808 said on 22nd February 2010, 5:00

          Well he didn’t win so thats kinda humiliation to a several time world champion.

        • DanThorn said on 22nd February 2010, 7:45

          You could also say that Alonso was lucky not to lose it in 06, after the mass damper was somewhat controversially banned, he was ridiculously penalised in Monza and suffered retirements at Hungary and Monza that weren’t his fault.

          Stop being bitter – the outcome is the outcome, and Renault and Alonso did a better job than Ferrari and Schumacher that season and deserved their championships.

          • Agree with Dan completely. Alonso earned his reputations as ‘the best on the grid bar Schumi’ because of the 06 season. It was a near perfect campaign and Renault and Alonso were totally deserving and did do a better job.
            I don’t really believe in luck but I think Schumacher was fortunate Alonso at times had so much against him and that allowed him to fight to the end but Michael wasn’t humiliated at all.

        • Your assessment of Schumacher’s domination of 2006 is absolutely bang on.

          Except that Alonso was leading the championship from round one until round 16, then retook the points lead after Japan so Schumacher only actually lead the title chase for a single race. And Renault had their mass damper banned mid-season in highly dubious circumstances, which slowed them up considerably. And Alonso got that very silly grid penalty at Monza and lost points due to an engine failure in the race. And, like Schumacher in Japan, Alonso also lost a certain victory due to mechanical failure in Hungary.

          But as long as you ignore all that Schumacher and Ferrari definitely should have won…

  10. Steve said on 22nd February 2010, 4:41


    did u watch the 2005 and 2006 season?

    2005 – the bridgestone tires were terrible and won only one (ridiculous) race, the car was junk too, hardly Michael being ‘beaten’


    michael was leading the championship (in wins, equal pts), with 2 races to go

    an engine failure in japan while leaing the race, and a puncture in brazil is hardly a humiliation…

    i think you’re a bit bias my friend…

    that being said, the front wing of the Merc appears identical to the brawn, and not nearly as complicated as the Ferrari/Mclaren/Force India/Red bull….


  11. Steve said on 22nd February 2010, 4:44

    that being said, why does the front wing of the Merc seem so simple when compared to ferrari/mclaren/williams/red bull/force india….

    it has a lot less technical detail it appears….. less elements,

    and their weight distribution is wrong, if what button said about the rear’s locking up is correct… but brawn has said he is aware of that and they are working on a new rear suspension geometry

  12. Calum said on 22nd February 2010, 8:02

    Just think in 3 weeks time we will know the new driver’s champ, :). Serously, how often is the winner of the first race the winner of the whole season. I wouldn’t bet against the winner of the first race being champ:
    Here is a list of the last ten seasons showing the opening race winner, and their overall championship place.
    09) Button, 1st
    08) Hamilton, 1st
    07) Kimi, 1st
    06) Alonso, 1st
    05) Fisichella, 5th (constructors: 1st)
    04) Schumacher, 1st
    03) Barichello, 2nd (constructors: 1st)
    02) Schumacher, 1st
    01) Schumacher, 1st
    00) Schumacher, 1st

    In the last decade, 80% of “opening race winners” go on to win the title, and of the 20% that didn’t, their teams both went on to win the constructors trophy.

    • HounslowBusGarage said on 22nd February 2010, 8:24

      Interesting observation Calum. Certainly looks that way.

    • sato113 said on 22nd February 2010, 8:31

      yeah i’ve always thought that too.

    • LewisC said on 22nd February 2010, 8:55

      Interesting – the 90s were almost as predictable too!
      99 – Irvine wins, 2nd in championship but 1st in constructors
      98 – Hakkinen, 1st
      97 – Coulthard, 3rd (4th except Schumacher was DSQ)
      96 – Hill, 1st
      95 – Schumacher, 1st
      94 – Schumacher, 1st
      93 – Prost, 1st
      92 – Mansell, 1st
      91 – Senna, 1st

      Coulthard the only real outlier in 97!

    • Keith Collantine (@keithcollantine) said on 22nd February 2010, 9:09

      Here’s a post I did on the same theme after the 2008 Australian Grand Prix:

      Does the Australian Grand Prix predict the world champion?

      The Australian Grand Prix moved to Melbourne and its season-opening slot in 1996. Since then it has accurately predicted the champion on eight occasions including the last two years – a 66% strike rate. […]

      No race that has been on the calendar since then has been won by the eventual champion of a given year as many times. But two other races tie with the Australian round: the Spanish and Japanese Grands Prix.

      Since then the Australian Grand Prix has kept up its hot streak: Button won it last year.

      The Japanese Grand Prix has not fared as well: Alonso won in 2008, Vettel in 2009. And the Spanish GP was won by the champion last year but not in 2008.

    • Ned Flanders said on 22nd February 2010, 10:35

      Interesting Calum, but Coulthard won the first race of 2003- Barrichello actually crashed out of the same race

      • Indeed, it was Coulthard, my mistake. Just checked and it was a Ferrari quali 1-2 with the Mclarens in 11(DC) and 15(KR). This sort of corrupts the theory but generally the opening race has a “hot streak” for being a champions victory!

        Oh, by the way, does anybody know who Justin Wilson is, my book says he started at the back of the grid and was British.

        • HounslowBusGarage said on 22nd February 2010, 11:08

          Justin Wilson won the F3000 series in 2001 and moved up to Minardi and then Jaguar in F1 without much success though. From 2004 to date he’s done the Champ and Indycar series in the US with some success.
          He also runs in the Daytona 24 hours every year and came second with Max Papis, Scott Pruett and Memo Rojas.
          One of his possible handicaps in racing may be his height. As I understand it he is over six feet four and has difficulty fitting in many cars . . .

  13. Does this mean we actually only need 1 race for the championship? That would save some costs ;-).

    Anyone dare to guess who will be fastest in Barcalona tests?
    Here’s my prediction:
    1. Alonso
    2. Kobayashi
    3. Button
    4. Hamilton
    5. Massa
    6. Vettel

  14. Kanyima said on 22nd February 2010, 11:45

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    I get the following msge:
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  15. djdaveyp said on 22nd February 2010, 13:03

    God its a slow day for news today :(

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