Alonso fourth, Schumacher tenth in their battle from the back in Melbourne

Posted on | Author Keith Collantine

Alguersuari kept Schumacher behind for 36 laps
Alguersuari kept Schumacher behind for 36 laps

Fernando Alonso and Michael Schumacher fell to the back of the pack at the start of today’s Australian Grand Prix after colliding on the first lap.

But while Alonso climbed back through the field to finish fourth Schumacher was only able to grab tenth place and the final point on the penultimate lap.

How did Alonso managed to make such better progress than Schumacher?

Schumacher and Alonso's time gap to the race leader
Schumacher and Alonso's time gap to the race leader (click to enlarge)

The graph above shows how far Alonso and Schumacher were behind the leader on each lap of the race. The data for some other relevant drivers is included.

Alguersuari, take one

The one driver who made the biggest difference was Toro Rosso’s Jaime Alguersuari. Alonso and Schumacher both pitted to discard their intermediate tyres on lap eight, one lap before Alguersuari.

As Alguersuari came out of the pits Alonso was able to drive past him – but Schumacher got stuck behind the Toro Rosso driver.

Although Alonso continued to move up the field by passing other cars, and plenty of changes of positions were happening further up the field, Schumacher could do little about Alguersuari. It took him 14 laps to find a way by.

Two laps later Alguersuari pitted for fresh tyres and Mercedes decided to cover him by bringing in Schumacher on lap 27.

However, as we have seen already this year, the driver who pits first has the advantage in this situation. Sure enough, Alguersuari got the position back from Schumacher – partly because the Mercedes drivers was now stuck behind Pedro de la Rosa.

Alguersuari, take two

On the graph above, Nico Rosberg’s dashed line shows the kind of pace Schumacher might have had without Alguersuari in the way.

This time Alguersuari stayed ahead for 22 laps before making a mistake, allowing Schumacher to muscle his way around the outside of the Toro Rosso at turn 15. Alguersuari ran him out to the edge of the track, unwilling to give the place up, but Schumacher finally prevailed.

It wasn’t the first time in the race he’d been troubled by one of the cars further down the order. Timo Glock cheekily re-passed the world champion at turn 14 earlier in the race.

Happily for Schumacher, de la Rosa proved much easier to pass when he caught him the second time. Peter Sauber cannot have been very happy at the ease with which de la Rosa surrendered the final points-paying position on the 57th tour, one lap from home.

Alonso’s progress

Alonso, meanwhile, had made his way past de la Rosa 44 laps earlier and never looked back. He passed Rubens Barrichello on lap 15 and took seventh off Mark Webber when the Red Bull driver went off on his out-lap the next time around.

The Ferrari driver gained three more places thanks to Vettel’s retirement, and the extra pit stops for Webber (who had re-passed Alonso) and Lewis Hamilton.

Granted, Alonso has a quicker car than Schumacher does at the moment. But when you think back to Schumacher’s famous drives from the back at Spa in 1995 or Suzuka in 1998 and then consider he spent 36 laps behind a Toro Rosso today, you have to wonder if he’s still a little race-rusty.

2010 Australian Grand Prix

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  1. Funny how all the Webber fans disappeared. I have been telling you all for a long time that the guy is useless. What more proof do you want ? Another crash, no excuse this time either. I think he should be sent in for a mental evaluation.

    1. Oooch, maybe a bit harsh ?

    2. He’s not useless, and though it doesn’t really matter through circumstances, he still scored more than his teammete!!

      Pity he couldn’t find the break pedal on the second to last lap :P

      1. He must have some bad feelings for the team as well.
        Keeping him out on the inters for 3 laps more than the pack really screwed his race. Why did they not pit him with the others, letting Vettel stay in front to spread the strategy?
        The second pit stop cost him just as much as it cost Lewis.
        It shows, that Redbull has the speed to go for champions, but the team has to get better in the strategy department (Reliability is probably a trade off for the superfast Newey car)

    3. Still here ! It might surprise you, but not all fans are fairweather fans. And besides Webber did a fantastic drive today – sure there were a couple of errors, but they were as a result of trying too hard. And wouldn’t you rather see that, than just follow the leader? Give credit where credit is due.

      1. And I agree with BasCB, had Webber been pitted earlier, he would have gotten a far better result.

      2. I wouldn’t call myself a Webber fan, but I agree he had a decent race, fastest lap too. He has to take the blame for the crash with Hamilton but the earlier incident when Massa got by was fair I think, as Brundle said he needs to tune his agression down a bit in some situations, and he would score more points.

      3. Are you on drugs or don’t you care to look at the real numbers ? Here they are:

        1. Button, +3 places from race start
        2. Kubica, +7
        3. Massa, +2
        4. Alonso, -1
        5. Rosberg, +1
        6. Hamilton, +5
        7. Liuzzi, +6
        8. Barrichello, 0 (even)
        9. Webber, -7

        That is Webber, -7 !!! What are you talking about, him having a good race and all the other BS ?

    4. Webber is great!

      He was fighting Hamilton and then hit him. THat’s what motor racing is. Stop slagging off mental people too. They have more sense and a better attitude than you.

      Go Webber!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      I think F1 fan should be sent to a cave where he can talk to his imaginary friends in peace.

  2. All in podium should thanks Alonso. When there are about 34 laps completed Hamilton change his tyre and was around 1.5 – 2 sec faster in each lap as compare to other running in front of him. Remaining 24 lap, with the new tyre on he was the best contender for 1st or 2nd place at least. If it was any other Hamilton might pass as he has already shown it during the race overtaking Masa, Roseberg, weber etc.

    But overtaking the spaniard was mere impossible. Alonso hold Hamilton for around 14-15 laps being 1.5 – 2 sec slower than Hamilton. Can anyone believe that?

    Alonso really is the best among current standing. I miss Kimi who is the real contender for this spaniard. Better hope next year.

    1. He should pass him, but Weber was a kamikaze. It’s not easy to pass a Ferrari you know? Anyway, awful start by Alonso, and the recovery was Vettel out of the race, Weber doing stupid things all afternoon, Hamilton and Rosberg stoping two times. The rest of the grid behind him were no rivals for the Ferrari.

    2. Alonso is definitely the driver of the race for me. Unimaginably and inexplicably bad start from him…was expecting better owing to him being on the clean side.

      But what a race from thereon. From the last to 4th is unimaginable and at that time I was thinking why isnt Schumi making any progress? Doesn’t augur well for him at all, even without comparing him to Rosberg.

      And as you say, the last 10 laps were incredible. What a defense! Masterful, isn’t it? Given that Lewis was faster by nearly 2secs, he still managed to hold him off. Incredible. and I loved the way he said “I dont want to know” about Lewis’ position. I think it is an amazing insight on how these guys think once they are in the car. They do wonders with those machines…simply beautiful!

      He could have overtake Massa if not for the necessity to defend his position…who knows, if he overtook and became 3rd, Massa might not have been good enough to hold on to the 4th given Hamilton’s relentless attack. Good show by Ferrari overall..totally worth waking up in the morning!

      1. @Saip I agree.
        Alonso during the race ‘he said’ “I dont want to know” about Lewis’ position.
        Don’t you think its a master act.
        And Alonso if he wants to over take Masa it might be easy and might be easy for Hamilton to overtake the duo. But all in podium, you all should be thankful to this spaniard.

        When Alonso is behind you and you and him both are in a competitive car, then you know what happen, Red bull still not sure wht happen to them in Baharin.

        I am really waiting for the next year.

        I think we all not posting this if Alonso has normal [not good/excellent] start.

      2. If you watch the start carefully, you’ll notice Alonso pulled up slightly to the left of the other cars.

        This put his left rear onto the black painted strip, and I’m guessing this is why he got such massive wheelspin off the line.

      3. The driver of the race was Kubica, hands-down. No mistakes, maximized what the car could give him. 2nd for Renault is simply a stunning result. He surely is one of the top 5 drivers in F1 today.

  3. I’m writing this without looking at the data, but – outstandingly enjoyable race aside – I do fear for the dry races on the calendar. Superficially, it does appear that passing even in a considerably faster car is very, very difficult. It was apparent that Kubica could hold his position very easily, and likewise Alonso and Massa never looked like being able to pass one another in a straight fight, not to mention Hamilton running out of pace as soon as he got within 20 metres of the Ferrari.

    Schumacher being bottled up behind JA was unfortunate, but how much could he actually do?

    I’m concerned that reducing the width – and contact patch – of the front tyres was another step toward more aero-dependancy, and we are right back in the situation that the current regulations sought to change: the cars can follow each other, but that’s it. Massa was repeatedly slithering all over the track, but as soon as he reached full throttle, he was safe.

  4. Well whether you like Alonso or not- he admitted himself that his tyres were not the best any more and there was no way he could have even tried to overtake Massa. Also apparently Ferrari have a new “team order”- the guys can race each otehr but for the last at least third of the race they are expected to hold position and not try anything that may end up in “not the best result for the team”- very sensible and very clear. And yes I do think he helped Massa get his podium as I do not think Massa could have held of Lewis and Mark.
    On the other hand- people complaining about Mark’s behaviour- he was simply totally over motivated in his home GP and wanted to show something- sadly it ended in a couple of daft moves on his part.
    The fact he got a reprimand and not a penalty? Totally correct- we fans moan there is no overtaking so we expect penalties to be handed out when they try it? CRAP! It seems the stewards now with ex drivers are doing a much better jon in the interests of the sport and hope this continues.
    As for the mix up with Button/Alonso/Schumacher- again no one drivers’s fault- but anyone can see that three into a corner does not go.

  5. Surely the coming together at the first corner was Schumacher’s fault by him not giving enough room to his right for Alonso and Button, whom he had a clear view of approaching the corner.

    1. No, it appeared to be more Alonso’s fault, as the BBC tream said.

      1. Jarred Walmsley
        29th March 2010, 3:29

        Yep, definetely Alonso’s fault he didn’t give way to Button when it was obvious he had the racing line, all Alonso’s fault although I do respect his amazing drive from last all the way to 4th, but I think that Schumacher could have done alot better if it wasn’t for Alonso

  6. it’s still too early to judge Schumi’s pace but it’s starting to feel quite weird seeing him behind Alguesuari. i would expect him to be at least faster than Rosberg or to be fighting against the Feraris.that would spice thinks up even more. a bit disappointing till now. but than again where will he be at the end of the season?if he manages to end his “first” year on 3rd is that good for his image? it’s got that Lance Armstrong coming back taste all over it. returning after 3 years and teaming up with one of the best team leaders. he ended up 3rd in last years Tour de France. still faster than the other 197 riders who started. but the edge is off. Contador swept the tarmac with him…

    Keith maybe you can add this to the predictions topic:

    Predict how many laps will Vettel last in Malaysia?

  7. M.S and Nico are both doing well,sneaking up on things both running good races ,they,ll start winning soon,Nico will want to get some wins and obviously M.S as well. Fernando,s wearing a little thin with me at v momment,if he dislikes safety cars so much then when is he going to hand back his Singapore 08 trophy,even if he new nothing about it? that would be the right thing to,instead of letting P.K jr cop all the flak.P.K jr was a lost oppertunity for F1.

  8. Smashing race on soooo many levels
    1 alonso caused the button/schumy accident at first corner but it was a racing incident and thankfully the stewards kept out of it.
    2 Alonso had a great result considering he was plum last at lap 1
    3 Kubica had a great result, i seem to remember some very agressive weaving to keep back a merc (need to watch the race again) which showed he was prepared to race hard and push the rules, again no steward involvement.
    4 could Vettel have lasted to the end of the race on that set of tyres, we have been told previousy the red bull is hard on tyres
    5 the 2nd pit stops…..this was an odd one. The undisputed king of strategy brought Schumy and Rosberg in for 2nd pit stops and it seemed to me that McLaren panicked and just followed, and Webber also. Certainly Hamilton wasnt complaining about tyres, i think they just thought “Ross is always right, we should do the same”………………….note for future, EVEN ROSS ISNT ALWAYS RIGHT!!
    6 is Hamilton loosing the plot without dad? Tyre burning in the hire car with local “hoons”!! Really?? This was all he could think of doing on a working weekend? Bit poor really.
    7 the thinking of Alonso; immediately he asked why people were stopping for second set of slicks; Hamilton in contrast seemed to take ages to figure out that the others were not all coming in for new tyres.
    8 Alonso telling his pit he didnt want to know anymore about Hamiltons progress towards the back of his Ferrari, hilarious.
    9 Mark Webber admitting he caused the crash and that he had apologised to Hamilton; not a clever move but he had the balls to admit it and speak to Lewis.
    10 Australia is usually a good race, this was no different and unfortunatly it is not a pointer for the rest of the season; except that the winner often becomes the WDC
    11 finally…..roll on Malaysia

  9. Alonso definitely is the driver of the race…. the passion and aggression are that of a true racer… in some shots her was right up there behind Massa, and you could actually see how much more aggressive and ultimately faster he was… but then his preservation sense kicked in…

    1. It’s funny how Alonso is so popular because of this race. As much as I like the guy, he screwed up the start for himself AND several other drivers! He did a fantastic job of catching up to Massa, then doesn’t bother to make an impression on him or most-importantly; kubica. What a waste.

  10. A good call from Button to be the first driver to make the change to slicks. Again it would have been interesting to see how close it would have been at the end with Vettel if his Red Bull had not suffered reliability problems, would Vettel have been able to look after his tyres like Button did throughout the race?

    An impressive race from Kubica as well, he made up places at the start and then managed to hold off Hamilton and Massa during the race to get second.

    I am glad Ferrari let their drivers race each other and didn’t tell Massa to let Alonso through, like the commentators thought they should, even though he seemed quicker.

    It was a good recovery drive from Alonso, although he may think he could have finished higher, a fourth place finish after being last after the first couple of corners was a decent result.

    Does anyone know if Alonso had to give a place back to one of the Virgin cars on the first lap? On the BBC Forum they showed the onboard footage from Alonso’s car for the first half lap and I couldn’t tell if he had completed his overtake on the Virgin before they reached the yellow flags for the Kobayashi, Hulkenberg, Buemi incident

  11. I got the feeling the Ferraris stopped pushing after a while. They seemed to be happy to sit in 3rd and 4th to take the points and preserve the engines.

    I think Alonso and Massa knew that with the tyres they had, they weren’t going places. Good team play, Alonso dropped back and played the defensive game brilliantly, aided by turbulence of course, and Massa built a bit of a gap.

    Lewis struggled to get past Alonso, who showeed how good he can be defensively. Lewis was a good 1.5 Secs faster with the newer tyres but still couldnt get past.

    I have to agree that Drive of The Day was Robert Kubica. He did really well. I would Alonso second with Lewis thrid. Jenson did a good race as well, but it wasnt as exciting.

  12. more proof (if it was needed) that Schumacher’s not all that hes cracked up to be, great race by alonso, however and another podium for massa, although he should have achieved more.

    1. Hi, reading the stats article I found out Schumi was one of the two guys that had to pit 4 times, also was the guy who passed more people for a position. So I think his performance during the race was very good, sadly the TV coverage during those two first races has been very weak and a lot of stuff that happens is not being showed.

      1. also was the guy who passed more people for a position

        But wasn’t he mainly just picking off stragglers? It’s not as if he was passing Ferraris, Red Bulls and McLarens.

  13. jenson,Massa and Kubica are exceptional drivers but in my opinion schumacher,Hamilton,Alonso are in differentleague.

    1. schumacher is no longer in a different league, he had much less competiotion when he was winning championships

  14. Jaime Alguersuari, Spanish. Engine: Ferrari
    Pedro dela Rosa: Spanish. Engine: Ferrari

    Not meaning this too ugly here, but with whom would these guys have a bigger fight? With their countryman, already fighting for the title in their enginesuppliers’ car?
    Or the 7-times world champion who came back, who everybody wants to fight?

    Don’t understand me wrong, I don’t suggest Ferrari asking them anything. I just want to point out that this might be the little difference which can be enough nowadays in F1.

  15. Alonso lost the race before the start, when he lined up the Ferrari on the slippery white lines at the grid. He lost traction as he put the power down, and as a result found himself in the congested trouble zone at the first turn.

  16. There were several enjoyable moments during the race and Glock and Alguersuari fighting with Schumacher were certainly part of it…

  17. Great recovery from Alonso but expected better from Schumacher hoping that he will deliver in the future races.

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