Hamilton fumes after strategy mistake

Posted on | Author Keith Collantine

An extra pit stop cost Hamilton a likely podium
An extra pit stop cost Hamilton a likely podium

Lewis Hamilton performed brilliantly in the Australian Grand Prix but was clearly angry at finishing only sixth having run third earlier in the race.

Hamilton blamed the team’s decision for him to make a second stop for tyres on lap 35. That dropped him behind the Ferraris of Felipe Massa and Fernando Alonso.

Although he caught them at around 1.5 seconds per lap Hamilton struggled to pass Alonso. On the team radio he repeatedly asked the team about the decision to make an extra pit stop and complained that he had no grip on his last set of tyres.

Hamilton had successfully made several passes earlier in the race, beginning with a move on his team mate. He then lost several positions when most of the field pitted for tyres.

He got into a three-way battle with Massa and Ma rk Webber, first passing Massa and then trying to get by Webber at turn three. Webber ran deep into the corner and Hamilton got passed – but Massa moved ahead of the pair of them.

Hamilton got back ahead of Massa but clipped the Ferrari on his way past, damaging his front wing. He then caught Nico Rosberg.

After several attempts Hamilton got around the outside of Rosberg at the high-speed turn 11. Rosberg came back at him, but with yellow flags at the next corner due to Sebastian Vettel’s crashed Red Bull he was unable to re-pass.

Now up to third, Hamilton spent several laps behind Robert Kubica, his team took the decision to bring him in the pits for fresh tyres. Some other cars behind him had already pitted, but Kubica and the Ferraris stayed out.

After several attempts Hamilton was looking around the outside of Alonso at turn 15 when he was hit by Mark Webber.

Webber apologised to Hamilton after the race. But should the McLaren driver have been in the position in the first place?

At the end of the race it was clear the drivers who hadn’t changed tyres were lapping much slower – by up to two seconds per lap compared to drivers like Hamilton and Webber who’d taken new tyres.

If Hamilton hadn’t pitted, what state would his tyres have been in by the end of the race? While drivers like Button and Kubica had been able to preserve their tyres after their early first stop, Hamilton had given his a lot of punishment in making his way through the field.

But it’s not likely Hamilton’s tyres were in such bad shape that he wouldn’t have been able to keep the Ferraris behind.

The gamble backfired, and Hamilton clearly isn’t happy at losing a likely third and a potential second for sixth place after a great drive.

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  1. David Watkins
    28th March 2010, 9:46

    In. A. Nutshell.

    1. This was clearly a great race! I am a ferrari fan but I clearly think that the best two of the day were Fernando and Lewis! they show impressive motivation and they are aggressive enough to make you jump on the chair! I really hope this championship will be as thrilling as in this race! forza Ferrari

    2. The strategy was no “mistake”, it was a deliberate action to handicap Hamilton and give Button the win, its joke and people can see exactly whats going on here..

      1. David Watkins
        28th March 2010, 10:22

        That’s nonsense I’m afraid. McLaren have been incompetent before and have been so again.

      2. Haha I think it would be more likely the other way around :P

      3. I agree, it is absolutely disgusting and people who are fans of other drivers and teams are saying the same thing on other forums. How can Hamilton’s brilliance prevail when his team favour Button? I find it outrageous. Can’t stand McLaren now.

        1. Are you being serious? Hamilton would never have beaten Button had he not stopped, they didn’t know how well the soft tires would hold out for a whole race distance so they went each way with the strategy. Add to that Hamilton had been driving hard in traffic and is generally harder on his tires, and he was the obvious choice to bring in.

          Now stop it.

          1. You know i don’t think Mclaren tried to help Button over Hamilton but how many would have believed me if i said so with the drivers reversed?
            If Lewis goes well at other races people will still say it’s his team.

        2. Stop the tiresome bleating S Hughes – time and time again, Hamilton has proved that he doest;t have the nous.

          There’s no conspiracy – he just can’t manage his tires or a race. He’s sees red and lost his cool.

        3. Bigbadderboom
          28th March 2010, 13:55

          Sorry Hughes but you talk nonsense. Hamilton needs to sort his life off the track out and stop becoming this arrogant self indulgent figure. I am a supporter of hamilton, I live in the area he was raised and have been very proud of his acheivements, but thje fact is he was abusing his tyres and was actually complaining they were going away from him. The strategy was simply ondone by ferrari managing to got the distance by better tyre management. To think McLaren favour Button is ludicrous.

          1. Martin Whitmarsh himself said the strategy was wrong – so how come you claim you know more than him?

          2. Making a decision that turned out to be wrong doesn’t automatically mean the team favours Button, Hughes.

          3. Jhonnie Siggie
            28th March 2010, 20:36

            There is no proof that he had problems with his tires. The team made a call after he spent a few laps behind Kubica plus seeing MSC and others pit and improved their lap times. At the end of the day Button’s gamble paid off and Hamilton’s didnt. Dont get your panties in a wad over a tire issue that didnt exist.

        4. This is sarcastic right? I assumed it could ONLY be sarcasm, but so many people have taken it seriously that I am now quite confused.

          1. Don´t worry Matt. It´s obviously sarcastic…

          2. Thank god for that. Having read cabbage’s arguement further down (I’m afraid that it goes on so long that it can’t be anything other than serious and is almost as ridiculous as the ‘Glock pulling over for Hamilton’ ‘conspiracy’) I was terrified that he wasn’t the only person actually thick enough to think that.

      4. F1 conspiracy theory #7483817

        1. Conspiricy theories aside, that was a wonderful advert for the refuelling ban. Super fast qualifying. Racing for track position. Dynamic strategy influenced by the knowledge of a driver live on track, not by computers back in Woking. Fuel levels would make stops predictable. We had no idea who would stop and why today, exciting stuff.

      5. No need to be so paranoid! Lewis hits his tyres harder but a lot of cars stopped for a second set. At the time it would have looked reasonable and would any of us have been surprised in the event Jenson, Kubica and the Ferraris actually stopped?

        Lewis was unlucky as much as anything. He got into a couple of tangles with Webber and was carrying damage to the front wing. Despite the incidents getting him out of position, he was still one of the most consistently fast guys out there today.

        Jenson made a ballsy call to get himself into a winning position. Lewis suffered from a call which, with hindsight, was a bad one.

        1. David Watkins
          28th March 2010, 10:53

          Some of us were holding in our heads when they pulled him in. It was so bad that you didnt need hindsight to see it

        2. Mclaren made a tactical error by basically thinking that they could have HAMILTON in on fresh tyres and use his aggrssive ability to curve through the remaining field.Remember at that time the forecast indicated that the front runners will pit hence mclarens idea was to have Hamilton pit and then maybe leap frog the front runners after they had pitted.IT WAS also some form of cussion incase
          something happenned to Button
          I can understand Hamiltons anger and frustration with all the news since his police incident and therefore his addrenalin was at maximum as he made his way through the field.ALL said and done to me its good that at this rate we shall have a diffrent winner at each race which is good for competition and my bet is that we shall have Either Schumacher or Roseburg on the pondium at Malaysian grand prix next week end…if not Webber and Vettel this time ….

      6. Richard in Hong Kong
        28th March 2010, 11:14

        Jenson made the decision to come in early and put on slicks. HE made the decision – not the team.

        In other words, if Lewis had the balls he could have done the same thing. But he didn’t, and he came 6th, not 1st.

        There’s only one mistake made here, and it was made by Lewis.

        1. Yeah but it was the only option for him really, as he said after the race, he was wrecking his inters and so rather than lose a lots of places he thought meh I’ve got nothing to lose let’s get me some slicks and in this case it paid off. Like I said in another thread it’s rather like Hamilton in Monaco back in 08 where he got that puncture, went in before everyone else and then went on to win the race.

        2. You’re missing (the glaringly obvious) point that Hamilton could have finished 3rd if not 2nd if his team hadn’t let him down again.

          He would have gotten there on his own performance rather than a lucky call.

          1. Richard was trying to point out that Hamilton should have used his own judgement like Button, rather than need the team to make the decision for him. They let him down, but Hamilton technically could have made the right call himself.

        3. EXACTLY a victim of his own lack of thinking & assertiveness on the hoof and a result of being in the team for so long and being used to / able to question & compute strategy calls for himself – too reliant on the people on the “Pratts Perches” on the pit wall – do you think Alonso/Schumacher/Button would have accepted that call no questions asked ? – nope experience is obviously a wonderful thing and the lack of it done Hamilton today – on the bright side he now has a bit more of it to store away for use later in his career – but he may mentally question every decision they make now which will not be good for his surprisingly fragile state of mind – as Coultard alluded to it is a definite chink in his armour he needs to address.

          I loved the bit where Alonso told his team “I don’t want to know” when they were giving him info on how quick Hailton was closing in on him :)

          Masterful Performance by Button lets hope it shuts up a few of his doubters – although how much further proof do they need to admit he is a ballsy class act !

          A World Championship, decisive overtaking whilst under intense championship chasing pressure & now sublime strategy calls & the nuts to override his teams decisions if he thinks it’s right to.

          1. “I don’t want to know” that was one of the funniest things in a long time.

      7. OK well this is just trolling and I don’t really know where to start with this but here goes:

        The drivers are treated equally, if one of them is favoured, it’s more likely to be Lewis. The controversy in Aus last year was more due to Dave Ryan and just a bad call by the team to let Trulli through. Hamilton did mislead the stewards but the issue originated with the team. Therefore there wouldn’t be any attempt at payback, which they wouldn’t do anyway as it costs them points and consquently money. Which is also why the won’t get rid of Lewis because he’s a great driver who brings them wins and money. Also he’s not going to want to leave because, despite the occasional mistake, McLaren are one of the top teams on the grid and all teams make errors from time to time.

      8. are you the type of fan that in 2007 said that mclaren gave the same shot to alonso and hamilton? I guess yes.

        1. I don’t agree one bit that the team did it to favour Button but I know if it was the other way round everyone would be saying it was team orders and rubbish.

          Alonso and Hamilton both did amazing to come through the pack and were brilliant. Vettel drove a good race but again it looks like reliability is going to stop him from being champion :(

          1. COTD for me. Absolutely on the money.

        2. exactly…. good point.. I think MClaren have switched to Jenson…

      9. Hamilton was destroying his tyres trying to get past Kubica, hamilton is not a driver who is known for being able to preserve his tyres, as spirited as his performance was. If they didnt pit him he would have been passed by the ferraris at the rate he was destroying his tyres and then a pit stop would have put him back further.

        1. Wrong. Hamilton learned how to preserve his tyres. For instance Brazil 2009?

          1. The fact is.. he was destroying his tyres. we are merely stating the fact that he just was. Lewis can preserve them, but not at the rate he was driving.
            Yes, Button did destroy his inters because of his inability to cope with changes/imbalances in his mclaren spaceship, and that doesn’t make button the better driver either.
            and i agree that he would have atleast came 4th or 3rd. But the fact of the matter is he was destroying his tyres and there was still the chance the prancing pony could have pounced at him, causing someone else to plow him into the sandtrap.

          2. Hamilton hadn’t destroying his tyres. Which is exactly why he was so upset that they made him come in for new ones!

        2. I’m tired of all this drivel, and of Hamilton’s moaning. Anyone with Formula One experience could see that both rear, and the left front tyres on Hamilton’s car were visually going off. Had he not gone for the third set, he most likely would have not finished due to a puncture or de-lamination. Had Hamilton managed to nurse the second set to the end, he would have ended up being so slow that he probably should have finished exactly where he did. Follow the lap charts (live T&S) when viewing.

          That is all…

      10. You know what these claims that McLaren would deliberately handicap Hamilton to help Button remind me of?

        All those people in 2007 who said McLaren deliberately handicapped Alonso to help Hamilton.

        And they’re just as wrong now as they were in 2007.

        Here’s the thing: both McLaren drivers drove utterly brilliant and completely different races.

        Button took a big gamble, called it exactly right, and it paid dividends. He also got a bit lucky with Vettel’s retirement.

        Hamilton was formidable in attack, passed loads of front-running rivals and kept it clean all the way. He also got a bit unlucky because the team messed up his strategy.

        That’s what happened. The conspiracy theories are garbage.

        1. I could not have agreed more Keith,

          Conspiracy theories are merely rubbish; Teams have the best intention in giving their driver the best possible result. It was a hard decision and the team merely chose the wrong option out of the two and so the outcome then infuriated it’s poor victim.

          It may be a tad idealistic but it’s arbitrarily professional. and Mclaren is a professional team at that.

          And following the telemetry: Jenson after a short burst of purples, played it smart and patient backing off from greens whilst following vettel and conserving his tyres for another 50 laps.

          Lewis on the other hand lit up the screens trading blow for blow with the local hero, making for a spirited clash of heroes.Both drivers rode exceptionally in their own way.

        2. Too right.

          To tell you the truth I really don’t get what all of the fuss is about here. I’m guessing the team brought in Lewis because they thought (quite reasonably too at the time) Ferrari and Renault would do likewise and they didn’t want him to be stuck in Kubica’s dirty air (and damaging his tyres in the process).

          It does remind me of Hockenheim 08′ when they did pull in Hamilton too late after the SC and he ended up 4th or so with about 20 laps left – now that was a far more clear cut error on the part of McLaren.

          1. It does remind me of Hockenheim 08′ when they did pull in Hamilton too late after the SC and he ended up 4th or so with about 20 laps left

            Yeah it’s a lot like that – here’s the write-up of that race for anyone who may not be familiar with it: Lewis Hamilton wins despite strategy blunder (2008 German GP review)

          2. Hockenheim 08 was another example of Hamilton not being able to to look after his tires. Turkey 08 where he was the only 3 stopper and China 07 are also examples. Lewis is brilliantly quick and aggressive but there is a price to be paid for his style. Too bad he can’t put the brakes on his mouth as quickly as on the car.

            Alonso, when asked after the race if he was held up by Massa said no, he had simply used up his tires carving thru the field and had nothing left. True or not, it was a classy response to a frustrating situation.

            Hamilton is an unbelievable natural talent but I question whether he has the intelligence to be an all time great. Arrogance and entitlement seem to have corrupted his mind. Win as a team, lose as a team!

          3. Seems to me as though, If Mclaren thought that all the cars would pit again, then to pit Hamilton early makes perfect sense, as we all know how pitting early gives an advantage nowadays…

        3. Agree with you Keith, maybe you should touch on this during the race and lap analysis?

          It would be interesting to know exactly the lap times the guys running in 2nd to 6th were setting and whether if there ever was a realistic chance for a McLaren 1-2…

          1. Time wise obviously Hamilton could have made up the time, but getting past 3 cars in a few laps is incredibly unlikely.

            Hamilton’s engineer must have thought everyone was still coming in for new tyres.

            Guess that’s what you get when you give people a brand new engineer instead of the one he worked with for years already.

        4. bernification
          28th March 2010, 17:50

          Totally correct Keith.

          I thought it was a strange idea at the time, as Lewis tyres were showing no signs of going off and he had caught and passed everyone up until Kubica.
          But McLaren had no idea, as did no-one else, about how the tyre wear would progress or the likely need to change again, and hedged their bet.
          In Hamiltons early carrier he did wear his tyres harder than his team mates, but that does appear to be in his past, but I can see why the more risky strategy was given to Hamilton.

          Button is regarded as one of the easiest drivers on his tyres, and if they had pitted him he would not been in the position to profit from Vettels retirement.

          McLaren took a gamble and unfortunately for Lewis it didn’t pay off.
          Great win for Button, and thank you Lewis for the entertainment.
          No thank you Webber for proving time and time again what you are- a talentless whinging aus.

          1. “I think there’s reason to suggest that if he hadn’t stopped we could have had a one-two.

            “So if Lewis didn’t feel disappointed and frustrated about that, I’d be worried.” Martin Whitmarsh Team Principal Mclaren (not some under informed coach potato somewhere on the globe). Point is they missed out a 1-2 and they know it. As a professional outfit, those kind of errors should not be cropping up after so many years of experience.

          2. The only wrong thing from the McLaren team was this: They thought the others would pit also for new tyres but they didn’t.

        5. theRoswellite
          28th March 2010, 18:01

          Exactly Keith….that’s all it is. McLaren want both their drivers to do as well as they can, always.

          Any talk of favoritism simply displays a lack of knowledge about how the team operates.

          However, someone should point out to Lewis that airing his frustration over the radio…when there is nothing to be gained by it…displays a definite lack of maturity and professionalism.

          It only adds to his less than memorable weekend.

          1. True but I think we should underline once again that his driving was absolutely top-drawer today. His moves on Massa, Webber and Rosberg were aggressive but clean passes against first-rate opposition. And if Webber hadn’t hit him it looked like he was set to go past Alonso who’d gone into the corner a bit deep.

            Maybe it doesn’t justify him getting angry, but I can understand why he was.

        6. agree on this year. And both are british so, the british media is not getting too much involved.
          In 2007 was different. Not at the beggining of the year, but there were some tings at the end of the year with tyre pressures that made you wonder.

        7. a bit lucky??, no way was he going to catch or pass vettel, get real Keith

        8. ^ this for next Comment of the Day!

          1. (for Keith’s original comment, not the one above!!)

      11. Give it up please. We don’t need anyone starting the Alonzo “Hamilton is favoured” BS with Button.
        The engineers make the calls not the team and Button’s guy was smarter than not only Hammi’s guy but it would seem the rest of the field save Vettel.

        1. Mouse_Nightshirt
          28th March 2010, 19:05

          Well, in reality, he was smarter than Vettel too. If he had driven as well, he wouldn’t have gone off on T3 and would have been ahead.

          That would have made things very very interesting!

      12. If Hamilton had pulled his finger out in quali he wouldn’t have been in this position in the first place.

      13. @cabbagesVScarrots

        Don’t be ridiculous! I am a huge lewis fan but I am afraid I can not believe that anyone thinks that it was a deliberate attempt to stunt lewis. It was a strategy mistake which could have come off if the others had needed to pit. All the teams are still learning about the tyre wear so I am sure they will not make the same mistake again. However I remember quite clearly the opposite happening a few years ago when they should have brought hamilton in but did not and his tyres were destroyed. There is no chance on earth that Maclaren would purposely ruin the chance of a 1-2 finish!

      14. Really? Do you honeslty believe that? Hamilton is used to things going his way and he has become a spoilt brat. It was on the team’s interest for him to finish on the podium and do as well as possible

      15. Nick Someone
        29th March 2010, 16:32

        cock-up or conspiracy? :-)

        I’m going to spuriously make up a statistic:

        97% of all perceived conspiracies are cock-ups.

    3. Airborne Williams Cap
      28th March 2010, 17:19

      I’m not so sure it was a mistake – I guess if the Ferraris have pitted as well, Lewis’s earlier stop would have been called great strategy.

      1. I don’t see why Hamilton should be fuming after this strategy mistake, he’s the one driving the car, he’s got plenty of experience, he should be making that call if he feels the decision to change tyres is wrong. In the other McLaren Button dictated the strategy to the team early on and won the race. There’s no conspiracy, Button was just the smarter driver.

        Hamilton is a great driver, but he does seem to lack that racing savvy that Button and in particular Alonso seem to have.

  2. Button wins the most exciting race in formula one history..but my driver of the day is the other maclaren driver “lewis hamilton”.we started the race at 11th ..passed the whole field inclding button upto 3rd,.stuck behind robert kubica..and due to wrong call by mclaren he went behind at 6th place…to add webber hit him…according to hamilton ‘McLaren wrecked drive of my life’..indeed true..

    1. Driver of the day: Alonso, come on boys, last position at the first lap and managed to finish 4th. Be serious and less fanatic :)

      1. ..what he said! Ok, I´m a Scuderia man myself. But Alonso did the drive of the race. After what happend in turn1 & how he managed to drive with those tires, that is IMHO just awesome driving.

        1. Alonso driver of the day…what a joke. Who did he actually go past apart from people in inferior cars, once he caught up the pack which any driver in that Ferarri would of, he couldn’t get past his team mate, who was struggling to keep the car on the track.

          At least Hamilton went past people at the tight end, Webber, Massa, Rosberg, Button!!!!

          Driver of the day was Jenson…he won didn’t he!

          1. Yeah, but Hamilton still couldn’t pass Alonso.

          2. Actually, if you look back at when Webber hit Hamilton, Hamilton probably would have got past Alonso then if it hadn’t been for Webber.

            Alonso had braked too deep into turn 13 – so much so that Rosberg almost got him into the next turn. If Webber hadn’t hit Hamilton I think Hamilton would have passed Alonso very easily into turn 14.

          3. Dude..whatever the case, even if Alonso didn’t pass drivers in the deep end..he still ended up ahead of Hamilton..says a lot in my opinion.

            In football, winning 1-0 and winning 5-0 is the same thing. In this case, finishing ahead of the guy behind you gets you more points, doesnt matter how you got there, it just matters that you did.

            Lewis drove really well, albeit the cars he passed were coasting on ice with terribly worn out tyres, but then again, those were their problems. Those of you who think that Hamilton could have done better if he didnt pit, dont kid yourselves, there is no way he could have made his tyres last. I would have loved it if he proved me wrong, but not a chance.

            The way he was driving, the tyres would have eventually let up.

            Its funny how the word conspiracy goes hand in hand with Lewis and Mclaren..whats that all about?

          4. But when deciding on driver of he day it is not as straightforward as the higher the driver finished the better they were.

            To use your football example the man of the match isn’t always the one who scores the goals and they might not be on the winning team.

      2. Kubica was my driver of the day, Alonso and Hamilton were both impressive, but made mistakes.

        1. +1 for Kubica.
          2nd in the 5th(?) best car, thats a great drive!

          1. Aye, very similar to his drive in Brazil last year, here’s hoping Renault’s big upgrade brings them up to at least Mercedes pace so he can keep up there.

        2. It’s not a bad call – Kubica was rock solid in a limited car all day. Jenson’s decision to go on the dry tyre surely earns him driver of the day though?

          1. Apart from that decision his race wasn’t that special though, he had a comfortable second position until he inherited the lead, whereas Kubica had to defend the whole race from Hamilton and the Ferraris.

        3. Kubica done well today but to be fair he didn’t have a lot to do, he was under a bit of pressure from Hamilton for couple of laps and done well to hold him off. Good drive thought in an average car.

      3. David Watkins
        28th March 2010, 10:46


        No I’d still go with Kubica. The safety car did help get Alonso back to the lower-middle order but he picked them off nicely.

        For me the driver of the day is Kubica. Solid as a rock

        1. *request Kubica youtube tribute with ‘solid as a rock’ soundtrack :D

      4. Wholeheartedly agree-Alonso faught Lewis off bravely protecting his teammate Mass & assuring a 3+4 ….well done…you have my respect Alonso !

        1. Alonso is one of the braver drivers — not as ballsy as Hamilton, though — but surely in this case he was protecting *his* position, not his team-mate’s?

          I’m a big fan of Alonso’s driving, but come on.

          1. it has to be button. He is the winner after a perfect race, and a smart pit stop. Vettel, Alonso kubica, hamilton all did a very good race. No complaint about drivers this year. F1 just needs a few small changes to get, where we all want it to be.

        2. bravely protecting his teammate Massa

          Yeah, I’m sure that’s what he was doing. Because Alonso loves it when he finishes behind his team mate.

          Sarcasm, of course.

          1. If he had successfully overtaken, Massa wasn’t going to hold off Hamilton for more than two turns or something. Ferrari loses a position there, for the chance to have a go at Kubica, that might or might not work. He said so himself after the race, after he hit 4th the goal was to bring the points home.

          2. Tralfamadore
            28th March 2010, 19:59

            >Because Alonso loves it when he finishes >behind his team mate.

            Pretty sure he doesn’t, but he has learnt to keep his cool about it. In the interview after the race he was quite the sportsmanlike teamplayer. A definite improvement since his McLaren (“no longer a team”) year.

      5. Yes, but Alonso benefited from 9 DNF’s (not counting Vettel)! Lewis’s final position was more extraordinary given that he was up to 8th on the first lap, fought his way to 3rd, pitted, ended 8th again, and fought his way to 5th, before being rear ended by Webber. It is trully a testament to his driving that his 6th position is considered a disappointment – given he started 11th!

    2. Great race all round. Pointless bad tempered hotmouthing from Lewis after what seemed like a growth in maturity last year. More gonzo overtaking from Webber costing himself and others points, masterful driving from Alonso from dead last, Red Bull’s car fails again while they blame a supplier, Massa struggles to a better result than his race performance might have warranted, and Button fixed his self imposed qualifying/starting with a great race.

      Unpredictable in some ways, business as usual in others! What was telling for me is that both Brawn and Whitmarsh have effectively both commented “Wasn’t sure about Button before, but now he’s in the team I’m bloody impressed”. Speaks volumes about a driver. I think Button will have made a lot of friends in McLaren today – when he had problems, he didn’t finger point or lose the cool, he raced well, he was intelligent, and he mad the team look good today. Teams like that.

  3. I was really thinking that Jenson/Kubica/Massa/Alonso would have had to pit, in which case Lewis would have won! But they’re so durable. :/

    Anyway, great win for Jenson, but Lewis will beat him in the championship, I’m sure of it.

    1. hmm maybe, I think Button was altogether more canny today. Being the fastest doesn’t mean best. Prost wasn’t fastest, but he was best.

      1. senna was the best… abd the fastest.

      2. Common mistake, but it was usually Prost who had the fastest lap while Senna was the consistent driver.

        1. P1 at the flag = fastest guy. No point being P2 and posting FL, is there?

  4. Hindsight is a great thing but Button got a say in strategy so Ham probably has a say in his and he really could have just said no.
    He put in a stunning performance, it was a disappointment for him but if he thinks he knows better then he should say so on the radio.
    Ham’s tyres were getting a bit worn after the 2nd stop so whether he could have even gone the distance is another question.
    Nice to see some passion but it really is directed the wrong way in my opinion.

    1. Yeah but it seemed like his crew suggested that the cars around him were going to pit as well and that by pitting himself, at that time, he might get the jump on them. Yes he could have said no but I don’t think it’s unreasonable for Lewis to think that his crew were giving him accurate imformation. That pit stop cost him a pretty much guaranteed third place, possibly second; his tyres didn’t look that trashed. I think the team is exactly who his frustration should be directed at.

      Button only made the call because he was going backwards on the inters and so took a gamble because he thought he had nothing to lose.

      1. Other drivers struggled on inters but weren’t as brave as Button. His gamble still could have gone very wrong had he crashed into a wall.
        Thing is though, loads of drivers had the opportunity to pit again and only Lewis did. The team give guidance and provide the information but Lewis is still at the cockpit. I don’t think Lewis is a clever driver like Alonso or Button and his team did sort of make a mistake but it’s a team that have also ehlped him win with their quick thinking; Monaco 08 as an example. Mistakes are made but Lewis has to take some respinsibility and I do that he’s understand he’s frustrated after a great performance.
        Plus I stand by my point that after he came out, his tyres were beginning to wear again which was heightened by the aero behind Alonso but would he really have it made it the rest of the race without a pit?

        1. Terry Fabulous
          29th March 2010, 11:09

          Good Point Steph.. He must have some sort of say in what is going on.

          And he has to be able to take the good with the bad. Remember when they pitted him on like lap 2 at Interlagos last year and he thought it was a dumb idea. He got a podium that day!! And it could so easily have worked for him here.

          I think he just needs to chill out a bit, stop talking about it and get his head ready for Sepang.

    2. I remember Lewis being told no to a strategy decision last year that he did not like. The team was fairly rude on that occassion telling him they were in charge of strategy and he in charge of driving. Much as some of us tried to bring it up for debate on several sites, the mods were not interested. Lewis ought to realise that something natural about him attracts controversy. He needs to reduce his media profile – currently, its like s**t to flies! There is no way he can win a PR contest with Button in McLaren – he should know that and change strategies. Otherwise from what i see, the media will be labelling him a misguided out of control nervous wreck by the end of the year.

    3. Button’s call to change to slicks was more of a driver decision as he would know the track conditions better than the team.

      The call to bring Hamilton in was based on the team seeing others come in such as Schumacher, Rosberg and Webber and thinking that the rest of the top cars would need to.

      We have to remember that with no refuelling it is not better to stay out as long as possible as it used to be, and if those around you are going to change their tyres as well it is probably better to get your stop done first.

      McLaren may have gone for the tactic of splitting the strategies or they may have thought because of track positions and time gaps Button had a bigger cushion so they could leave him out and see what the rest did but that they couldn’t take that risk with Hamilton.

  5. It looks to me that Hamilton should look at his ability to care for his car before he starts pointing his finger at his team. And what is with his radio transmissions during the race? Grow up and drive the car.

    1. Last year Button did this in Hungry, stop having a go, seriously Lewis was fairly brilliant today. Many passes against fast cars, was robbed of second. You would be so angry, really just consider if it was you. Then ask him to grow up.

      1. I agree Hamilton drove an exciting race, but he was hardly “robbed of second” as he lost it with his poor tire management.

    2. Turns out Whitmarsh agrees with him that they could have got a 1-2 if they had not pitted. Obviously i believe Whitmarsh over you Baum, which would mean that there is nothing for Lewis to do about his tires that he is not already doing. I doubt he would listen to you if you told him to his face.

  6. It’s the one regret I have about the race. If he carried on I think he would’ve taken Kubica and there would’ve been a great battle between two team mates of him and Button towards the end. I’m disappointed as an F1 fan in general, a McLaren fan and a Hamilton fan.

    1. “I think he would’ve taken Kubica”
      Don’t be so sure, he was trying for a few laps and he had much better car than Renault.

      1. He probably would have passed Kubica in the end and he might even have been able to catch up to Jenson – but at the time it looked reasonable to suggest Kubica would have been stopping anyway, giving Lewis the chance to pass in the stops and get a move on sooner.

        This sort of strategy call only looks bad after the event when it’s gone wrong!

        1. He would have passed Kubica or destroyed his tyres trying!

  7. I think Hamilton was stitched up today due to a terrible decision by the engineers. I’m not taking anything away from Jensons win, he deserved it but Hamilton desereved a lot more. Mclaren could have taken a 1-2 today had it not been for that poor strategy.

    Looking at the results from todays pole, I think Hamilton contributed the most to a fantastic race, I would have scored it a 10 if he had finished on the podium.

    I just hope he doesn’t throw his toys out of the pram and gets on with his job, at the end of the day everyone makes mistakes and he just needs to get over it. Remember Spa last year, he had banked 3rd place and made a mistake, I don’t think the team deserved that, but like I said we all make mistakes, its how you overcome them.

    1. apologies I meant Monza…

    2. “Hamilton desereved a lot more”
      well Alonso and Vettel also desereved a lot more but this is racing.

  8. Prisoner Monkeys
    28th March 2010, 9:55

    You know, if Jenson Button and Lewis Hamilton had each experienced the other’s race, you’d all be calling Button foolhardy and Hamilton masterful. But no, here it’s a case of Hamilton getting screwed out of a victory and Button simply being in the right place at the right time.

    What are you going to say in the event that Button beats Hamilton in the end-of-year standings?

    1. Agree. Drivers discuss strategies with the teams, they took different routes and one worked the other didn’t. Good on Button.

      1. I don’t think going 50 laps on options would have worked with Hamilton, he tends to be more aggressive on his tires and the team probably didn’t want a repeat of Shanghai 2007…

        1. Oh come on i am tired of this Hamilton is bad with his tires s**t!

          1. You should re-watch the race…

  9. Alex Cooper
    28th March 2010, 9:55

    I’m surprised by Lewis’s reaction. A brilliant drive though it was, his wheel to wheel dicing wrecked two sets of tyres while Button looked after his one set of slicks.

    You could see the differing wear patterns between the two McLarens. Lewis pretty much HAD to pit for new rubber.

    1. Exactly, Lewis driving was VERY strong, but the reaction to the team & the radio traffic is not in order. The team didn´t execute him over the air at Monza! You win as a team & you loose as a team.

    2. hamilton lost the gp on q2, and button won it with a decent qualy, right pit stop, good pace, and some luck.
      You deserve the victory, great drive.

  10. I wonder why people assume that, while not not pitting, Hamilton would have passed Kubica. He wasn’t able to do so before tire change and was prone to mistakes more than the driver he was trying to pass. Unfortunately a little bit blinded Lewis’ fans don’t see that simple fact, that Lewis is still a nervous driver and gets frustrated (thus, making mistakes) much more easily than the cool-headed Pole. Sorry guys, but passing top driver in a machine relatively closely matched is not so easy for Hamilton as you all think.

    1. Totally agree. Lewis is not a mistakeless-winning-machine as many blindly see. He did stupid things in history, he did some silly things this weekend too. He’s quick but has to grow up.

  11. wong chin kong
    28th March 2010, 10:06

    Hamilton fuming for the lost positions is understandable because he drove a fantastic race, only to be let down by stupid team strategy. Remember last year Rubens was hoppin mad when he lost a chance to win the race when Brawns get him to run 3 pit stops and Jenson won the race on 2 pit stops. I am sure this unfortunate thing will not be repeated in the races ahead.

    1. I do remember that and I also remember everyone saying that Rubens was being ridiculous, including Rubens. It’s foolish to say that “team strategy” has nothing to do with the drivers decisions and that Lewis was let down by the team – he could have stayed out. The only let down for Lewis was Webber’s over-optimistic move at the end of the race.

  12. Not really Lewis’ team now, is it.

    Good job to Jenson.

    1. Right. And this is the right source of all those nervous reactions during and after the race…

    2. Maybe having that feeling is why Lewis was as upset as he was!

      This guy gets his WDC while having a superior car, gets into the team, the team changes race engineers for both.
      Then the police bothers him for having a little fun in the car, he gets blocked in qualifying so does not make it to Q3.
      And in the end the team makes him pit instead of keeping him out and lose him a podium at least.

      I hope Lewis puts it behind him, before this kind of thinking gets to him (like Fernando in 07).

      1. your parallels between Lewis now and Alonso 2007 is interesting – does McLaren manufacture these disputes on purpose! All those rivalry marketing videos etc, may be they are just not make believe – may be they are real.

      2. Teams do not make drivers pit. that is not how it works.

  13. Looks like mr hamilton showing what a bad team mate he is.
    He couldnt handle it when alonso stuffed him,now button great call had better tactics than him,and looked after his tyres.
    Daddy-better control your son s.o.s to anthony LOL

    1. Strange choice of username…

    2. I thought Hamilton was very respectful of Buttons win and he seemed genuinely happy for him. I don’t think Hammy was being a bad teammate to Jenson, if that is what you were trying to say.

      As far as the radio transmission goes, well, it was in the heat of the moment and I found it a little bit harsh and annoying, but he was emotional and was having a great race, so probably not the best choice of words. I am not a huge fan of Hammy’s, but it’s always good to see drivers getting emotionally invested in what they are doing….

  14. Such a baby! Lewis must trust his team on this. Again his aggressive driving bit him back from the Webber melee. He needs to be more patient like Alonso (from 3rd-20th-4th place).

  15. Hamilton would have destroyed his tyres, if he was on Button’s strategy. So in that sense, McLaren in my opinion, sort of made the correct call. Though maybe they should have waited a bit longer to pit him.

    1. David Watkins
      28th March 2010, 10:48

      That would have put him behind Webber and Rosberg, who had pitted earlier.

      If anything they pitted him too late

    2. i agree. He is just frustrated when things don’t go his way, and button winning makes it even worse.

    3. Even Martin Whitmarsh said it was the wrong decision when he was interviewed after the race, so your assessment is 100% wrong.

      1. There are afew myths that i noticed this weekend:

        Myth 1: McLaren is Lewis Hamilton’s team. This was always a myth that has finally been proven as such. It may be too early times yet, but there is a good seat at Mercedes that he can take up in 2011. With Brawn, he’d rule. I am sure his dad was making calls over the weekend.

        Myth 2: Lewis destroys his tires. This has been a myth for a long time now but Lewis slammers need this myth to comouflage what they really mean.

    4. What nonsense. Hamilton was faster than everyone around him until he was called into the pits.

      And speaking of tyers, wasn’t it Button that destroyed his intermediates first after being passed by Hamilton ;)

      1. @ S Hughes

        It’s just my opinion, nothing more, nothing less. Just because Martin Whitmarsh’s opinion is different doesn’t mean I am wrong. We will never know what would have happened if Hamilton stayed out.

        1. Well..that kinda contradicst your first statement…doesnt it?

          1. Which part are you on about?

        2. Correct sir. Hamilton was the only 3 stopper at Hockenheim 08 and the team took the blame for him. I suspect today was similar with Whitmarsh trying to take the heat off a bad weekend for Lewis.

        3. what comes from Whitmarsh unlike you is fact not opinion

          1. Well I disagree with that. There’s nothing to say, that leaving Hamilton out would have meant he would have got a better result.

  16. Captain Caveman
    28th March 2010, 10:27

    just a quick question, did button actually manage any overtaking manouvers on track? i saw him being passed a number of times but can only conclude that his early pitstop was the only differentiator.

    can anyone else confirm? i am looking at the reruns but still uncertain.

    1. I think he did, when he was the only one on slicks and the track was drying, but I don’t think he passed any of the front runners until they all pitted a few laps after him…

  17. I think Lewis has started to realize that Button is no Kova… hence the fume…

    1. totaly agree wit u he has been put back in his place now, seems he really dose need a minder what age is he 5?

    2. I don’t think Hammy’s fuming has anything at all to do with Buttons result. He was ****** because he was third, pitted and was then fifth. His inexperience led him to yell at the team for making a bad decision, but his comments after the race show that he knows that he AND his team made the wrong call. It has happened many times in F1 to many drivers/teams. It’s really not that big of a deal…I think that this particular situation just happens to be escalated because Button/McLaren made a great call and Hammy/McLaren mad a bad call…

  18. It looked like a reasonable strategy call at the time. The BBC commentators (including Martin Brundle) were certainly under the impression that the Ferraris would be sitting ducks. Alonso was even on the radio asking why Ferrari hadn’t called him in. Hamilton was gaining on the Ferraris so quickly it appeared that he’d have one or both of them fairly easily – he’d certainly passed enough people earlier in the race when on similarly worn tyres. Hamilton was looking like he was about to pass Alonso – but then Webber crashed into him.

    Had Hamilton not stopped there is no guarantee he would have passed Kubica, who never looked under serious threat from Massa. The Ferraris finished close behind the Renault so would probably have been on Hamilton’s tail. Button was well placed to manage his tyre wear but Hamilton would have been forced into either defending from the Ferraris or attacking Kubica.

    Had Hamilton not stopped and his tyres gone off seriously badly he would have been lucky to finish sixth. Had he made it into Q3 he might have won the race…

    1. Hamilton was virtally past Alonso when Webber rammed him out.

      Alonso completely missed the corner and was standing still while Hamilton was moving to the inside of him still rolling.

      BTW this again makes me wonder why did Hamilton got penalized in Fuji while Alonso pulls the same stunt here …

      1. At best Hamilton was alongside Alonso on the run down to the corner, but on the outside line. While Alonso goes into the corner deep, Hamilton appears to have backed off slightly – presumably to try to get a run on Alonso on the exit. That’s when Webber runs into the back of the McLaren.

        There’s no comparison to Fuji 2008 – Webber was simply too close and got caught out, which is why he apologised to Hamilton and was reprimanded by the stewards.

        1. What’s the point of replying when you didn’t even read what I wrote?

        2. I read what you wrote – I replied to say how I disagreed with it.

          You said Hamilton was “virtually past” Alonso when Webber hit him, but he wasn’t so I explained why you were wrong.

          You made a comparison to Fuji 2008, but I disagreed with it and explained why.

          Why so confrontational, old chap?

        3. Did you see how Rosberg almost made it past Alonso after the accident? Guess not, but Alonso missed that corner by a mile and lost all momentum. Rosberg came from 30 or 50 meter back and actually had to slow down not to ram into the back of (a weaving) Alonso.

          Hamilton would most definately taken that position.

          You made the comparison to Fuji, but you missed that I was comparing Alonso. Why on earth would I compare Webber ramming into Hamilton to Hamilton missing the corner in Fuji?

          For that matter, the first time that Webber rammed into Hamilton in this race was a 100% copy of Fuji 2008. Hamilton got past Webber, but Webber gets back at him by simply not braking and he slides off the track tapping Hamilton’s front wing as he slides by. Hamilton loses momentum and Massa gets past.

          Webber 2 incidents that have landed Hamilton a 10 place grid penalty (punting into the back of Raikkonen) and drive through penalty (missing the corner in Fuji) in one race. Yet Webber gets only a slap on the wrist.

        4. @PatrickL

          I think comparing stewarding decisions from the last few seasons to this season is pointless as they now (finally) have retired drivers on the stewards panel. Finally we have people that are actually qualified (at least to some degree) to make decisions on racing. The stewarding over last few years left me gobsmacked. Lewis penalised for going off track but others escaping, massa taking someone out and that person being punished, drivers punished over and over again for trying to overtake and getting it slightly wrong. Webber was wreckless in the race having almost taken lewis out earlier and making a few excursions of his own. But the hamilton accident was merely webber getting a bit too aggressive in the overtake, he went for a gap that was not really ever there and it is correct that he was reprimanded for it but I am glad he escaped punishment as I really want to see racing drivers race. The only incident that I thought Alonso was at fault for (and should be equally spoken to about) was the first corner when he turned into button, the rest of that race he was just racing as you would expect (and I really do not like Alonso). Massa was the only other that should be spoken to after he wildly weaved in front of button (at least I think it was button) to stop him getting past. I have to say that so far the stewarding has been far better than previous seasons.

        5. Actually I’ve noticed the Stewards didn’t punish anyone, In the past they would have…

          I like it like this, Now drivers can race hard, and risk mistakes without penalty. If a driver makes a **** up, It is his problem, the only exception is when safety becomes a larger issue. Like when Massa (I think) was weaving down the back straight, a crash then would have been , err, not good.

  19. Webber was again the worst driver of the day. That chap makes a real habit of ruining races for other drivers. Although, McLaren had already stuffed Hamilton’s race anyway.

    My driver of the day was Lewis Hamilton, followed by Fernando Alonso. Best two drivers on the grid in my opinion… I love watching them both race. Amazing talent.

    1. what about button and vettel? both perfect races, with different outcomes.

  20. I am gutted by Hamilton’s stop and to top it off Webber hitting him.. But I can’t keep wondering had he stayed out would his tyres last him? After all he complained on team radio after his 2nd stop that his tyres were off, and those were the new ones.. Was the problem only with the new ones, or did he struggle with the old ones as well?

    The team seemed to be confident that he would be able to pass the Ferraris since their tyres were old.. but then Webber hit him.. Maybe they were thinking The Ferraris have got old tyres, Lewis with fresh ones so he’ll be able to get them even though he was complaining about his own new tyres..

    Drivers make mistakes and teams do too, no one should be blaming the other too much and most importantly learn from the mistake.. Things can always be worse, that clash with Webber could have ended his race, at least he got himself a good solid 8 points!

    He deserved a better result for his drive, but this is racing.. Really amazed by Button looking after his car and tyres.. Their decision to pit went from a ridiculous one to a perfect one in a matter of minutes!

    McLaren have made an excellent call and the most important one today as it got them the win, but also may have made a bad one that cost them a 1-2 opportunity, 2 podium finishes, or better points..

    1. David Watkins
      28th March 2010, 10:51

      He and Webber drove the wheels off their cars to reach the Ferraris so no surprise his tyres went off.

      If he’d kept his tyres I think he would have fallen back deliberately from Kubica to preserve them and challenged Massa to trash his own tyres if he fancied a go at overtaking. However Massa looked off form today and dont think he would have been a threat.

      The pit stop was a bad call. End of

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