Rate the race: China

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  1. Robbie said on 18th April 2010, 9:53

    It was absolutely brilliant. Loads of overtaking, loads of drama, the final few laps were very tense. Better than Australia!

    • MigueLP said on 18th April 2010, 10:50

      what i dont believe 10 for this race nonsense just because it was an mclaren 1 2 this shouldn be a 10 more like a 7 or less dont get overpatrotic

      • Robbie said on 18th April 2010, 11:16

        Why you replying to me about that? I don’t even understand your post.

        As I’ve said before even if the McLarens spun out I would’ve given this a 9/10 like I did anyway. It wasn’t about who was on the podium, it was about how exciting the race was, and it was very exciting.

      • Cube said on 18th April 2010, 11:49

        What does that have anything to do with a 10/10?

        I give it a 9/10. Williams did badly today & I still gave it 9/10. Doesnt stop it being brilliant.

      • pSynrg said on 18th April 2010, 15:09

        I’m sorry but you are an idiot. You seriously think we should vote whatever it is you would vote?

        Click your own button and shut up…

        • pSynrg said on 18th April 2010, 15:09

          The above was directed at MigueLP

        • MigueLP said on 18th April 2010, 15:20

          everybody voted 9 or 10 not because of the quality of the race just because someone you wanted to win the race did eventually won basic psicology

          • MigueLP said on 18th April 2010, 15:21

            im giving a 7 because im an honest person im not blinded by my tastes. by the way im happy not see another one 2 by redbull

          • Patrickl said on 18th April 2010, 16:25

            The taste you have is the thing you are so full off.

            This was the best race of the year by far. It had loads of drama, loads of overtaking, great battles, great strategy. In short it had literally EVERYTHING a great race should have. This is a classic that will be talked about for a long time.

            The only thing it is lacking for YOU is that apparently you feel the wrong driver won.

            Alosno came fourth after he ruined his own race. What more do you want?

            Honestly, what more nonsense will these fanboys come up with.

          • I voted 10 and I don’t even like Button, Hamilton or McLaren. It was an amazing race whatever the result.

          • PJA said on 19th April 2010, 9:53

            There may have been a few people who gave the race a higher vote because of who won, probably the same amount of people who gave the race a low rating because of who won.

            Regardless of who finished where, the only thing that stopped the race from being perfect for me was that there was not a great battle for the lead.

            Also lots of people still care about Williams, myself included, but what does that have to do with how many points they get.

            If points were dependent on support there would be no need for races and they could just have a vote and see Ferrari come first with McLaren second all the time.

            You have already admitted you replied to the first comment only because you wanted the attention so it wouldn’t surprise me if your actual comment was intended just to provoke debate, if it was I guess you succeeded.

          • Patrickl said on 19th April 2010, 14:19

            PJA,

            Rosberg and Button fought for much of the race for the lead and at the end of the race Hamilton was pretty close to Button twice.

  2. geo132 said on 18th April 2010, 9:53

    definitely 9. first half of it was amazing; so intense. probably will watch it again this week, maybe even twice!

  3. If only there were 2 more laps would have been a good battle for the win.

    Mclaren drivers driving both questionable but only Hamilton will get the penalty obviously…

    • James_mc said on 18th April 2010, 9:59

      I would say what Button did was a bit off, slowed down waay too much but just caused kerfuffle more than anything else.

      Hamilton/Vettel, much as I love to see drivers like those two really going for it they could have easily collected a bit of dangling pit gear or an unwary mechanic

      • As Martin said he slowed the pack up way to much and when it came into the final corner everyone was so close they had to go side by side which eventually ruined Webbers race.

        No doubt Hamilton will be blamed though as Webber said on the team radio.

        • curedcat said on 18th April 2010, 10:17

          it was an unintended payback for webber for foolsihly ruining hamilton’s race in australia .

          • Gustav said on 18th April 2010, 10:27

            And in my opinion what Webber did in Australia was way worse – Hamilton was not to blame in Australia at all..

          • Mike said on 18th April 2010, 10:50

            It doesn’t matter who did what worse, the rule enforcers should surely look at this ignoring any other incident, otherwise it cannot be a fair system.

        • Patrickl said on 18th April 2010, 10:18

          Hamilton did nothing wrong there. They had passed the safety car line already so hamilton was allowed to overtake. He had the inside line so Webber should have backed off.

          • Rohan said on 18th April 2010, 10:26

            So the safety car line was before the final corner? I don’t think so.

          • What are you on about Patrickl? They were side by side in the last corner. And it wasn’t even Hamiltons fault for being three wide it’s because the pack got bunched up stupidly.

          • Patrickl said on 18th April 2010, 10:47

            OK, I see you are a bit testy by the poor performance of the Red Bulls. Never mind.

            @Rohan,

            Yeah, I thought Brundle commented that the safetycar line was ahead of the last corner.

          • Mike said on 18th April 2010, 11:07

            The line was before the last corner, Hamilton had every right to pass. Hamilton couldn’t have avoided pushing him off by moving further left, main;y because Vettel was there.

            Webber just got unlucky (again).

          • sato113 said on 18th April 2010, 12:11

            yeah on some replays you could see the line just before the last corner.

          • Red Bull didn’t do well, that wasn’t my point Patrickl. Completely irrelevant comment.

          • macahan said on 18th April 2010, 18:03

            Your not allowed to overtake until Start Finish line even if the SC has moved of the track.
            Regulations also states your not allowed to drive to slowly behind the SC. Your supposed to be within a certain distance behind it granted the bunching up happened at the point the SC left. Don’t understand the reasoning from Button to slow down that much. Drivers should stop messing around behind SC just leads to tears when they do.
            There was no place for vettel, Hamilton and Webber to go besides bunching up and trying to go three through the corner. Hamilton (even though I don’t like him) really was not to blame for Webber being ran off. Vettel had a lot to do with it as well BUT ultimately it all comes down to Buttons behavior because he unnecessarily slowed down way to much all the drivers behind was going in SC pace and to avoid hitting and overtaking each other got bunched up big time.

            I gave the race a 9. I’m not a McLaren fan nor a big fan of Button and do not like Ham very much but respect him as a skilled driver but have a bit of to much temperament and loud mouth.
            It was a good exciting race all in all. Wasn’t aware until this morning but I’m glad for it that the 25 sec post race penalty been dropped from the regulations. Granted it’s about the same time or shorter then what a drive through cost in time BUT if given early in the race, strategy can be changed and might also give you a open track allowing for better lap times to catch up but if you end race behind a slower driver there is nothing you can do to remedy or react to it.

          • Patrickl said on 18th April 2010, 23:08

            macahan,

            The rules changed for this season. Overtaking can now occur when they pass the first safety car line after the safety car leaves the track

            I quoted the rules for Keith somewhere on one of these articles.

  4. James Bolton said on 18th April 2010, 9:56

    Brilliant Grand Prix!! Now we need to work out why – we need more races like this.
    How can we get the cars performing in the dry as they do in the wet? In terms of grip levels?

    • Gustav said on 18th April 2010, 10:28

      It is not the grip level that makes for more exciting races, it is the fact that the grip varies a lot over the whole track. Give all the cars less grip in the dry and they’ll just be equally slower. There will always be more water some places on the track, which forces the drivers to constantly adjust their pace..

      • tombo said on 18th April 2010, 12:04

        this is right. it’s the unpredictability of the grip levels, that makes it exciting in the rain. if mechanical grip, for instance, was reduced nothing much would change (look at 1998 – we saw less overtaking if anything that year than 1997).

        also, if overtaking was easy all the time, the thrill of it would be completely lost – the fastest car/driver would jump to the front without much fuss and every race would turn out the same.

        • Patrickl said on 18th April 2010, 16:27

          Also, the only reason there is so much overtaking in the rain is because of the strategy differences. If they all would be on the same tyres they all would be driving at the same speed and thus there still wouldn’t be any overtaking.

          • macahan said on 18th April 2010, 18:09

            not necessary due to the changing condition on the track and the different amount of water on different areas on the track it’s easy to make a mistake, with a varying amount of rain fall and run of speeds of the water one corner might be dry while a few corners later has a lot of water. We saw more then one driver running of the track because of this, loose traction out of a corner or rear end letting loose in the corner. Allowing others to catch up and/or pass.
            Of course when a driver is on inters and another on soft slicks you can get some interesting overtaking because either tire might be the right to use or not to use. We saw drivers on slicks overtaking drivers on inters and we saw drivers on inters overtaking drivers on slicks at different time in during the race as the conditions changed.

          • Patrickl said on 18th April 2010, 23:09

            The point is that it is not simply low tyre grip.

  5. Antonio said on 18th April 2010, 9:56

    Fantastic race! Brilliant strategy from Button! Great come back twice for Lewis!!!

  6. curedcat said on 18th April 2010, 9:58

    WHO NEEDS RIDE HEIGHT ADJUSTERS HUH!!!

  7. irishlad (@irishlad) said on 18th April 2010, 10:02

    great race overall , lots of overtaking left, right and centre, and in the end that what f1 is all about.

  8. 8/10. Probably best race in season :)

  9. sheep said on 18th April 2010, 10:05

    Nearly perfect!
    Awesome drive from Hamilton, yet again, and pretty good by Alonso, too.

  10. Icthyes said on 18th April 2010, 10:05

    Gave it an 8 but it deserved a 9. Great win by Button, showing his experience and skill with Hamilton showing his pace and determination. Solid effort from Rosberg too, shame he didn’t have the chance to keep his lead.

    Now all we have to do is wait for news on if there’s going to be a penalty!

    • Patrickl said on 18th April 2010, 10:22

      They are just an ideal pairing. Button has the experience and the cool while Hamilton is an extreme racer who can (almost) make up for bad pit call that he or the team makes.

      If Hamilton picks up some of Button’s experience then he certainly will be impossible to stop for years.

      Great interview with Paddy Lowe after the race where he explained that there is no difference in tyre handling between the two drivers. Just that they have to use their tyres differently. Hamilton overtakes a ton of cars while Button simply drives his laps on his own.

      If anything I’m more impressed with Hamilton’s tyre handling than with Button’s. Hamilton fights like a lion and STILL he has reasonable tyres left.

      • Mike said on 18th April 2010, 11:32

        Wasn’t he struggling at the end with his tyres? I thought Button just backed off.

      • Icthyes said on 18th April 2010, 12:24

        They are indeed an ideal pairing, it’s why I tipped McLaren for the WCC before the season begun :)

        If anything I’m more impressed with Hamilton’s tyre handling than with Button’s. Hamilton fights like a lion and STILL he has reasonable tyres left.

        Good point, I hadn’t thought of it that way! Button impressed me too today that he could get heat into his tyres so well, it’s traditionally been a bit of a weak spot for him.

  11. Jenson: 2 wins
    Lewis: 0 wins

    FFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU-

    But seriously, well done Jenson. His experience (and a lot of luck) seems to be helping him in changing conditions. But there’s 15 races left still, so Lewis still has time to come out on top ;)

    Also, what happened between Lewis and Vettel? I missed it.

    • sheep said on 18th April 2010, 10:07

      Simultaneous release, Lewis didn’t get good traction from his box, and ended up alongside Vettel, then Vettel barged sideways a bit.

      • Icthyes said on 18th April 2010, 10:22

        That’s a good point to bear in mind, I think Hamilton was released only a few tenths after Vettel (way too small a window to say it was negligent or intentional), but it looked worse because Hamilton got away slower. Hopefully the stewards will take that into account.

        • Rohan said on 18th April 2010, 10:27

          But Hamilton stayed side-by-side with Vettel down the pitlane, endangering every mechanic in that pitlane, when he should have yielded and slotted in behind Vettel.

          • sheep said on 18th April 2010, 10:48

            Yes, but to start with he was ahead of Vettel, so should Vettel have yielded, even though he was going faster than Hamilton?

          • Mike said on 18th April 2010, 11:44

            But Hamilton buggered up his exit and Vettel had the correct place in the lane whereas Hamilton was driving down the middle, Things would have happened too fast to really react before they were side by side.

          • MetalHead said on 18th April 2010, 11:51

            and then Vettel made it worse by pushing Lewis further towards the mechanics…….

      • sato113 said on 18th April 2010, 12:14

        agreed sheep. it looked more dramatic than it was because HAM was slow out of his box. if he had normal grip he would have been comfortably infront of VET.

    • Has Button had a good result this year that hasn’t involved him making a lucky tyre call…

      • Gustav said on 18th April 2010, 10:30

        Luck is a tricky thing, as Tiger Woods responded when asked to how he could be so lucky all the time: “It is funny, the more I practice, the more lucky I get”. Jenson has more experience than his teammate, it might actually matter some… But eventually his tyre calls will backfire..

        • BasCB said on 19th April 2010, 12:53

          In Malaysia the tire choice allready backfired somewhat. Because his tires were worn he had to let 3 cars through, even though Alonso then suffered with the engine blow.

      • So far the McLarens still aren’t quite up there with the Red Bulls or the Ferraris in terms of raw pace on a dry track, their drivers are making up for it in terms of patience and tactics (Button) or sheer aggression (Hamilton)…

      • matt90 said on 18th April 2010, 10:53

        He was ahead of Hamilton before people pitted, and finished ahead of Hamilton, so yes, he actually drove a good race.

      • Salty said on 18th April 2010, 20:17

        Let’s be clear. Button out qualified Hamilton. Held his team mate from the start. Was never behind Hamilton. Then Button won the race.

        One of the hot topics prior to the season start was Button’s tyre management compared to Hamilton’s. And now we are seeing it bearing fruit. Don’t get me wrong, if F1 was about sprint racing, Lewis would nail Jenson. His aggression makes him fast and agile, which makes for great overtaking, but what does that do to his tyres ultimately? Jenson’s smoother (read more conservative if you want) braking and acceleration may make his fastest laps 2 tenths slower than Hamilton, but protect his brakes, tyres and engine more – just look at reliability between Jenson and Rubens last year.

        And Jenson is STILL a very good bet for an overtake.

        Both drivers are world champs for a reason. They are both great drivers, but just get the job done in a different way. It’s a Prost/Senna thing (and no, not suggesting Hamilton and Button are as good as or better – they are themselves – a different age, so don’t bother flaming!).

  12. rick13 said on 18th April 2010, 10:06

    All I can say is that there ought to be some penalties handed out. Good race though.

    • thestig84 said on 18th April 2010, 10:17

      Why exactly!? Too much close exciting racing for you? We get a great race and people demand penalties. I thought it was a great fair race. Well done Mclaren, lets keep it up!!!!

    • Gustav said on 18th April 2010, 10:19

      I strongly disagree. This is not a gentleman’s sport, they should be able to push to the limit without worrying about upcoming penalties. Only incident I thought was a bit too much was perhaps at the pits, but since no mechanics were out there, I think they should just let it slide. Hell, if we can have just one more race like this in the season it’ll be a perfect season..

      • thestig84 said on 18th April 2010, 10:30

        Well said. People just love to complain…when its a straight forward race its f1 is rubbish, when there is excitement at every corner people what penalties here there and everywhere. Shame.

    • rick13 said on 18th April 2010, 10:33

      In Fuji 2007, (in worse conditions) Hamilton got away with murder when he was screwing around behind the safety car and Vettel ran into Webber. Took 2 podiums away from 2 very deserving drivers at the time that were over-achieving as well. Button stacked up the field at the hairpin and as Martin Brundle said he was violating a rule that too much eratic accelerating or braking causing the field to do something along the lines of what happened. The field got stacked up, and some drivers went off a little to avoid collision. Not saying he should be robbed of his win, but should be reprimanded if Webber was in Australia for colliding into Hamilton.

      Hamilton should be penalized for not yielding to Vettel in the pits, Vettel had the main lane and was keeping right next to him. He definately should’ve pulled in behind him. Plus, the way he was eratically pulling into the pits, cutting the final corner and going all over the place. Also cut in front of Vettel going on the inside in the pits as well, but at least Vettel has the sense to yield and let him past because he knew Hamilton was driving all ove rthe place.

      • Vettel was a bit cheeky turning in a little bit into Lewis but I agree Lewis should have tucked in behind him.

        As for Button, he broke a rule an ACTUAL rule not an unwritten rule but still Hamilton finds himself in the stewards room.

      • MetalHead said on 18th April 2010, 11:52

        Vettel turned into Lewis and made it more dangerous

        Let’s just hand Vettel a championship and make sure he gets no penaltis this year……

    • sato113 said on 18th April 2010, 12:14

      cotton wool police alert!

  13. Peter said on 18th April 2010, 10:10

    Didn’t really see an issue with the Hamilton incident in the pits with Vettal but to make contact and push Webber off the track at the restart deserved a drive through penalty.

    Whole restart with Button holding up the cars needs to be looked at but I highly doubt any penalty will be given out but wouldn’t be suprrised if the drivers are warned in future to not do it.

    • US_Peter said on 18th April 2010, 10:21

      Really? No problem with him flying down the slow lane of the pits? That’s not just endangering himself or other drivers, at that point he’s endangering mechanics. He deserves a hefty penalty for that. The restart wasn’t really his fault, he was being pushed into Webber by Vettel.

  14. theviewingfoot said on 18th April 2010, 10:12

    That was a fab race i rated it an 8.
    but if LH gets a penalty then so should SV for the barge… though i hope its let go, EJ is right its a racing incident.

    tvf

    • Salty said on 18th April 2010, 21:17

      Both cars released too close to call. The Vet swerve was stupid, but then Ham should have slotted in behind. 50:50 blame, but just handbags at 10 paces really.

      Schumacher and Hamilton on the track at last was awesome. Shame Michael isn’t truly back on the pace yet – displayed flashes of his brilliant racecraft.

      Button demostrated again today why he drives for one of the top teams. Classy drive and ballsy call yet again. Deserved winner.

      Rosberg is so very nearly there. Was the same last year, just want him to make that final move onto the top step. Great quali, brave drive, good result – nearly…

      Massa must be fuming. Alonso stuffing him in the pitlane (albeit before the limiter line) was harsh. Sitting behind the sister car in the pits must have felt neverending to Felipe. Against another competitor it would be perhaps examined more closely, but Ferrari have kept the argument inhouse I suspect. It was notable that the drivers comments on the Formula 1 website were very late coming in from Ferrari. Suspect this is the begining of the war we all expected at Maranello.

      Oh, and Renault? Quietly good again today. Bob his usual excellent drive, but Petrov had an excellent showing today as well – most pleasing after his good battling in Malaysia.

      Red Bulls ended 6th and 8th from a 1-2 start. McLaren started 5th and 6th and took the 1-2 finish. Newey has built the fastest light car. Not sure about the race distance car yet though. And Webber? Lovely guy, but what would Kubica do with that second seat I wonder.

      9 from me. Now remember to join the live chat in 3 weeks time. Given that it’s Catalunya and probably no hope of rain, will definitely need the chat buddy.

  15. Marc Connell said on 18th April 2010, 10:15

    my best race so far. 10/10 but it would be 20/10 if rosberg, hamilton and button had good set of tires and raced closely up until the last lap!

  16. Victor. said on 18th April 2010, 10:22

    The second SC was ridiculous. 4 laps to pick up a little bit of debris from a front wing for god’s sake. It took them just as long to collect 3 cars at the very start. Ruined the top’s 3/4 race. It cancelled Alonso’s penalty, and made the Renault’s lose what they earned with their early gamble. Rosberg should have won, or finish behind Jenson at the very worst.

    • Patrickl said on 18th April 2010, 10:23

      Completely agree. It reeked of an attempt to make the race more interesting.

      In that respect it worked, but it certainly robbed Rosberg and Kubica of their just rewards though.

    • James_mc said on 18th April 2010, 10:55

      I wonder if it was more for the stuff in the pitlane rather than the track?

      • Harv's said on 19th April 2010, 0:00

        that race was bloody exciting, but you would have rather have had it interesting? we had a heap of “interesting” races in 09′ and you want more?

        also remember button was past rosberg befor the second saftey car because rosberg went off.

        the saftey car was a called out to easily, because by the time the saftey car had caught button the debris was cleared and there was no need for it anymore. double waved yellows would have been alot better

  17. US_Peter said on 18th April 2010, 10:23

    Maybe someday we’ll actually get to see Kobayashi put in a race distance. Between his mechanicals at Bahrain and Malaysia, his own crash in Australia, and now getting jumped over by Liuzzi in the first corner at China, it must be getting a bit frustrating for Kobayashi. Meanwhile the HRTs are finishing races left and right.

  18. three4three said on 18th April 2010, 10:24

    Fantastic race, lots of overtaking and plenty of action including in the pit-lane! Massive congratulations to Button for his superb performance, who’d have thought he’d trump Lewis with two wins to nil and be championship leader?!

  19. Stevensan said on 18th April 2010, 10:24

    WHAT. A. RACE.

    China must stay…

  20. Rohan said on 18th April 2010, 10:25

    No refuelling + a McLaren 1-2 means I’d give this race a negative score if possible.

    If Hamilton is given any less than a 3 race ban for driving the wrong way on the circuit, overtaking under the safety car, and endagering every mechanic in the pit lane it will show yet again that the FIA are biased towards McLaren.

    Furthermore, it’ll also show that having ex-drivers as stewards is an abortion of an idea – first Herbet (who achieved less than nothing as a driver), and now Wurz (who was McLaren’s bitch for so many years) have showed clear bias towards McLaren.

    F1 in its current state as a pro-McLaren event is a joke and it upsets me that a sport I love has come to this.

    • Gustav said on 18th April 2010, 10:33

      Sour grapes…

      You shouldn’t rate a race from who wins, didn’t you think the race was very entertaining? I sat at the edge of my chair the whole race (except for the last 5 laps)..

      • Rohan said on 18th April 2010, 10:48

        No, I didn’t. I thought the lack of any elements of strategy that we would otherwise have if refuelling were present made the race incredibly dull.

        As for McLaren winning, seeing as they shouldn’t even be allowed to compete in F1 given their continual cheating (e.g. Spygate, Liegate), any win for them is another nail in the coffin for this sport.

        • matt90 said on 18th April 2010, 11:05

          Lack of strategy? Really?

        • curedcat said on 18th April 2010, 11:24

          @rohan “overtaking under the safety car” ??

          whatever you are smoking please put it out

        • MetalHead said on 18th April 2010, 11:56

          Alonso gets away again… having jumped the start (he got a drive through), going into the pitlane right in front of Massa (sorry mate, i’m number 1)

          And when Webber does stupid s*** like running into Lewis’ rear, ofcourse he received no criticism

          It seems like when cars get to crash, noone is at fault… but when that doesn’t happen, people start whining and asking for penalties

          This is racing, or go back and watch Bahrain GP all over again…

          • David A said on 18th April 2010, 17:27

            “It seems like when cars get to crash, noone is at fault… but when that doesn’t happen, people start whining and asking for penalties”

            So people start asking for penalties when nothing happens?

        • Ratboy said on 18th April 2010, 17:18

          @Rohan
          so you enjoy overtaking only if one car is parked up attached to a fuel rig then??

    • Pro-McLaren??? What the heck are you talking about??

    • SamS said on 18th April 2010, 10:36

      I Take it you are a Ferrari or Red Bull fan… Was a great race, lets see what the stewards have to say.

      F1 isnt pro McLaren, it is just not pro Ferrari anymore

      • Rohan said on 18th April 2010, 10:49

        No, I’m a Williams fan. How does that fit into your pretty little picture?

        • curedcat said on 18th April 2010, 11:26

          @rohan , who’s to blame for williams’ slump or fall from grace ?. mclaren ? or maybe hamilton . your comments reeks of pure dislike for either hamilton or mclaren as a whole

        • David A said on 19th April 2010, 1:28

          Presumably Rohan has been giving F1 races negative scores for a good 13 years now.

    • rick13 said on 18th April 2010, 10:37

      Agreed. When their is a Mclaren 1-2 everything is fantastic, even though the Mclarens were the ones pulling some questionable moves in this race.

      Now Malaysia, was a perfectly fair race where Vettel finally got his much deserved first win of the season, with good overtaking, and everybody calls it “mediocre” and rates it rather low.

      Agree with penalties as well.

    • Robbie said on 18th April 2010, 10:43

      So if both drivers were penalised you’d be happy? Rate the race as that, not who you wanted to win.

      Even if they spun out in the last moments and lost the podium I’d say it was the most entertaining race of the whole season so far.

      • Rohan said on 18th April 2010, 10:51

        Yes, because then justive would have been dealt. McLaren only achieved their 1-2 finish because of Hamilton’s actions entering the pitlane, in the pitlane itself, and under the safety car, and Button’s actiond also under the safety car.

        Both drivers clearly broke the rules, so for them not to be punsihed would lead to a complete free-for-all in the future (as other drivers would see that even if they were to make the most major of transgressions, they would not be punished).

        • matt90 said on 18th April 2010, 10:56

          You seem to forget that Hamilton actually left the pits behind Vettel, and didn’t make up any position there…

        • James_mc said on 18th April 2010, 10:58

          No…. Rosberg was considerably slower than Button/Hamilton so Button would have taken the win, and besides Button was completely disadvantaged by the safety car so you’ve invalidated your own point there by saying that the 1-2 was a result of it. Either Hamilton wouldn’t have got where he did or Button didn’t. Pick one, don’t use the same event for two different arguments.

          • Rohan said on 18th April 2010, 11:01

            I actually said “actions under the safety car”, not the event of the safety car being deployed. Hence, whether or not the delpoyment of the safety car benefitted McLaren is irrelevant – what matters are the McLaren drivers’ (illegal) actions under the safety car.

        • Robbie said on 18th April 2010, 11:19

          I won’t argue about the race incidents occurred as the debate is still out for those but to say they’re the ONLY reasons they won is simply sour grapes. Lewis overtook a lot of people, Button jumped ahead through pit stop strategy. It sounds like you’re frustrated because your favourite driver didn’t win.

          • curedcat said on 18th April 2010, 11:29

            @robbie , spot on there ,catching rohan at his deceptive games , sulking cuz his fav driver was overshadowed today .

          • Rohan said on 18th April 2010, 11:38

            And who would my favourite driver be then, curedcat?

            Oh, that’s right, I don’t have a favourite driver, so stop jumping to conclusions.

            As Samuel L. Jackson said during The Long Kiss Goodnight: “Don’t make assumptions; they make an ass out of you and umption”.

          • matt90 said on 18th April 2010, 12:07

            In that case its sulking because your least favourite team/driver won.

    • Are you James May by any chance?

    • PeterH said on 19th April 2010, 9:34

      3 le mans wins between them, yeah herbert and wurz have achieved less than nothing!

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