Lewis Hamilton doesn’t want Michael Schumacher’s “tainted” legacy

Hamilton says he 'would like to be remembered in the best way'

Hamilton says he 'would like to be remembered in the best way'

Michael Schumacher’s grilling at the hands of the media over the 2006 Rascasse controversy provoked many comments on F1 Fanatic yesterday.

Several of them drew comparisons between Schumacher’s track record and those of other drivers like Fernando Alonso and Lewis Hamilton. Today Hamilton said he wouldn’t want to be remembered in the same way Schumacher is:

To be potentially tainted by something like that would be really devastating for me. That is definitely something I don’t want to be remembered for.
Lewis Hamilton

Hamilton has, of course, had plenty of brushes with controversy of his own – most infamously in the Australian Grand Prix last year, where he apologised after lying to the stewards over an incident with Jarno Trulli during the race.

Hamilton told Reuters he wanted to be remembered for his race craft:

I am not really bothered if I am remembered or not. But clearly I am going to be remembered. I am part of the sport, I’m part of its history, I am a world champion.

I think as I am going to be anyway, I would like to be remembered in the best way and the best light. I want to be remembered as a fair driver as a clean driver and one that always drove with my heart and battled through thick and thin to score the points and the championships I will hopefully earn by then.
Lewis Hamilton

You can read the quotes in full on Reuters. Hamilton added that racing against Schumacher “doesn’t do anything for me whatsoever” whereas having the chance to race against his hero Ayrton Senna would have been “special”.

It’s fascinating to hear Hamilton speak this frankly about his own reputation and have a bit of a dig at another driver – especially someone with Schumacher’s record of success.

Do you agree with Hamilton’s assessment of Schumacher’s reputation – and his own? Have your say in the comments.

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203 comments on Lewis Hamilton doesn’t want Michael Schumacher’s “tainted” legacy

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  1. Hairs said on 13th May 2010, 16:59

    Errrr… Lewis?

    Thanks to your behaviour with Alonso at Hungary, Aaaaand the “monkeys at the back” comment, aaaaaaaand Autralia 09, aaaaaaaaaand apologising without really apologising, aaaaand slating the team who gave you the most gilded path into F1 that any driver has ever been given over the live radio like a petulant child…

    You’re already in the same tainted boat as Schumacher. Yours isn’t as big, or as luridly obvious as his. But it’s there.

    • MacademiaNut said on 13th May 2010, 17:09

      His spat with Alonso has no relation to this, these are fights within the team. Alonso chose to take it further by blocking him in qualification. People sticking to their contract, serving the #1 driver etc., are all within the team incidents. Same goes for “slating the team…”. In the spur of the moment, everyone makes noises. You have never shouted at your friends/family? That’s part of racing – someone got the strategy wrong, did not work out, the driver gets upset.

      The one thing I would give is the Australia 09 incident. That affects things beyond the team – the race. He apologized, but not enough. May be. I don’t think his legacy is anywhere close to be as tainted as MS (Monaco incident, intentionally crashing to win WDC, the list can go on).

      • Hairs said on 13th May 2010, 19:03

        Oh he’s nowhere near as bad as Schumacher, I pointed that out.

        But if he thinks he’s got any chance of being remembered as a “fair and clean” driver, then he’s more delusional than even a lot of his most ardant detractors would claim.

        • matt90 said on 13th May 2010, 19:20

          I don’t see why. He hasn’t really done anything under actual racing conditions that was that bad. In fact, his racing tends to be always fair and clean.

          • Brake Bias said on 14th May 2010, 5:26

            Remember Fuji when he “brake tested” Webber under the safety car which led to Vettel ramming Webber and taking them both out of the race.

            I will disagree with you that “his racing tends to be always fair and clean”. This is your subjective opinion and not a fact.

          • Hallard said on 14th May 2010, 18:36

            @Brake Bias-

            The very terms ‘fair’ and ‘clean’ in the context of F1 racing are by definition subjective. Theres no way they could be applied in a strictly factual manner.

          • Brake Bias said on 15th May 2010, 1:12

            Hallard, then the author I quoted should not have started his sentence with the his subjective opinion “In fact”. That “fact” is his subjective opinion about LH being fair & clean – a “fact” that I do not subscribe to as that is my opinion.

        • MigueLP said on 14th May 2010, 1:06

          he has done worse running at the back of raikk at montreal maybe was tthe worse or… alo…

          • Running into the back of Kimi was a racing incident, not taking him out of the race on purpose to win. Kimi crashed into Sutil in Monaco, should that make his career tainted? No…

          • Lee said on 14th May 2010, 10:52

            Indeed, Hamilton hardly ran into Kimi on purpose and many drivers have also pointed out that the lights are very hard to see when you are changing 20 settings on the car as you leave the pit box, It was as much the teams fault for not telling Hamilton that the exit was closed as it was Hamiltons for not noticing. I clearly remember that another driver went in to the back of hamilton after he had hit Kimi so it was clearly not just Hamilton having a problem.

            Now compare this incident to Schumacher taking Hill out in an incredibly dangerous purposeful move…..

          • David A said on 14th May 2010, 16:57

            @Lee

            And lets not forget Hill taking Schumacher out deliberately at Monza, 1995.

          • Keith Collantine (@keithcollantine) said on 14th May 2010, 17:34

            That was clearly a mistake. Hill didn’t stand to benefit from taking Schumacher and himself out, quite the opposite.

      • Brian Baum said on 14th May 2010, 4:05

        Oh please. Hamilton’s list of serious infractions is already long. Unlike acting ‘in the moment’ on the racetrack, Hamilton’s lying to cheat Trulli out of his points was premeditated and unforgivable.

        Frankly I think the pathetic British media are the only ones who keep this issue alive – no one else really cares. If Schumacher were British he would be regarded as “scrappy”.

        • tombo said on 14th May 2010, 23:25

          this is true; the media has a huge role to play in all this. in fact it has the only role to play given that reputations are earned purely on the media’s say so, and legacies are cemented in books written by the very same journalists.

        • Maksutov said on 15th May 2010, 0:04

          “Hamilton’s lying to cheat Trulli out of his points was premeditated and unforgivable.”

          To me personally that was the turning point of what I thought of Hamilton as a professional driver. His true colours were painted on the surface. Although I dont deny that he is an amazing driver, he is not really a clean and honest driver.

          A lie is a lie, and he got away with it with an excuse. “Somebody told me to lie”… haha.. There are limits to what your team can and can not make you do, and there is always a personal choice of executing any action or inaction suggested upon you. In terms of cleanliness and trustworthiness, to me Hamilton is pretty much in the same category as Piquet. I still respect his driving and i will not let that blind my judgment, but I will also never forget about it.

    • BeyondThePale said on 13th May 2010, 17:22

      Haha, absolutely hilarious. Either LH is pulling a joke on us, or has lost all sense of reality.

      • Bigbadderboom said on 14th May 2010, 12:31

        OR…..is the lack of influence and Lewis’s comparitive inexperience in dealing with the press unaided showing through here.
        Lewis get your foot out of your mouth!!!

    • Todfod said on 13th May 2010, 18:32

      @hairs. Im not a fan of Lewis or Schumi, but to say Lewis’s reputation is as tainted as Schumacher’s is ridiculous. No driver has ever pulled moves as despicable as adelaide 94, jerez 97, austria 2002, monaco 2006.. and not to mention the dirty internal team politics, etc.

      I agree its stupid for Lewis to make these statements, but if there were world titles given for the dirty/low life tactics in f1… then Schumi would win more than just a mere 7 championships.

      • Xanathos said on 13th May 2010, 18:41

        “No driver has ever pulled moves as despicable as adelaide 94, jerez 97, austria 2002, monaco 2006…”

        Really???

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kh1WxQmst2o

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjfwRrvtlNw

        • Christian said on 13th May 2010, 18:49

          To be fair to Ayrton Senna in that 1990 video. He said before the race after qualifying in pole that the pole position on the grid should have been on the other side where Prost was in second. He would therefore go for the inside at the first corner and it was up to Prost to get out the way if he was there…obviously Prost didn’t. :P

          Lets face it, Senna was a man of his word.

          • Icthyes said on 13th May 2010, 19:06

            So if Schumacher had said before Jerez “if Jacques tries to pass me, there’s no way he’s getting by”, that would have been okay?

            Bearing in mind that some claimed that Hamilton’s “No-one will ever pass me around the outside again” after Massa did it in Hungary was proof that he deliberately tried to run everyone off the road in Fuji.

          • Christian said on 13th May 2010, 19:35

            That’s a fair point Icthyes.

            I guess the difference is that Senna didn’t turn into Prost (Senna was on the inside), Prost turns into Senna.

            Schumacher turned into the Williams in ’94 and ’97…

            But I guess each situation is tainted by bias towards the drivers from each fan.

            These events give us memorable moments though. :D

          • It’s true, Senna did some bad things in his career too but they don’t get remembered like Schumacher’s.

          • David A said on 15th May 2010, 13:13

            I agree with Icthyes and TommyB.

        • Todfod said on 13th May 2010, 20:40

          Senna’s move in Japan was questionable, it could be a racing incident or it could be intentional.

          I have no idea what point you were trying to prove with the second video.

          In Schumi’s case however, they were blatantly intentional. In 94 his race was already over, and then he took hill out as soon as he was getting past him. 97 needs no explanation either.

          • David A said on 13th May 2010, 21:57

            It was intentional. He said that Prost wouldn’t get past the first corner if the Frenchman got there first. Prost hadevery right to get the better start and into the first corner, but Senna didn’t lift for a corner that wasn’t usually taken at full throttle.

          • Patrickl said on 13th May 2010, 22:12

            Senna said that he would hold the line. Prost could have not cut across Senna too …

          • Mike-e said on 13th May 2010, 23:46

            it was only fair, it was revenge for what prost did the previous year. If hill had have wiped schumacher out in 1995 to win the championship, i dont think anyone would be bothered about 1994 one anymore.

          • Antifia said on 15th May 2010, 8:37

            You guys didn’t watch the 1989 Suzuka GP, did you? What Senna did to Prost in 1990 was payback. Shumi-the-cheat, on the other hand, is just a low consumate cheat that needs no provocation to pull out his antics.

          • David A said on 15th May 2010, 13:12

            @Antifia-

            That’s a weak point. That in no way justifies what they did.

        • Lee said on 14th May 2010, 11:01

          @Xanathos

          The first incident was both drivers fault, Senna could have lifted off and Prost could have given more room. But as has been said by others there was more to this incident than the drivers actions.

          The second incident is a non incident in my opinion and is something that has been seen an many occasions, a bit naughty but not outrageous.

        • Calum said on 14th May 2010, 16:56

          I see you failled to notice the one in between 88 and 90 when Alain replied the favour to Ayrton :P

      • We want turbos said on 14th May 2010, 2:10

        It was all to do with the politics at the time! F1 was under the rule of the French mafia!!! Senna got pole so they decided that pole should be switched to the dirty side of the track!! Pole was usually on the clean side! So because of this Senna made the threat the FIA didn’t back down… So neither did Senna! At the time he was concidered a hero or a villian whichever side of the fence you sat.

    • Sri said on 13th May 2010, 18:55

      @ Hairs
      Enough said…

      Then again, Senna wasn’t a saint either. By and large, i see most of the Schumacher’s problem arising from the fact that he is a German and well, denied either a British Team or Driver a win. F1 media, it is by and large british and let us be fair, what went unpunished and well was rewarded in days of Senna (which is not all that way back in history) came back to haunt the German who denied the British.

      Time and again, i have left comments here quoting i don’t know who it was, that “Lewis should engage brain before opening mouth.” Plus, as you already quoted, Lewis also has quite some colourful history in what is actually a very short time in F1(this is what, his 4th year). That is a lot! Then again, i’m dead certain that with his attitude in the car and in the paddock, he’ll be creating more problems for himself than making friends, which someone has already mentioned here before me.

    • I wouldn’t say that Hamilton is as tainted as Schumacher. Yet. He is certainly going the right direction, though. He has only been in F1 a few years.

      If Hamilton keeps up the same misbehaviour and lasts as long as Schumacher he will certainly have one of the worst reputations of all time.

      • Eric said on 13th May 2010, 21:46

        Lets face it they both have MASSIVE egos and are great drivers. But Lewis has a loooong way to go before he will be classified in Shumachers league.

        • BasCB said on 14th May 2010, 8:01

          Exactly right, Lewis is not (yet?) as great a champion as Schumi nor is he (yet?) such a ruthless racer and as big at playing it dirty.

          If he does as he said in the interview, he might be able to get to be as great a champion without too much of dirty plays. It would sure make him even better, buf only time will tell, weather it will.

          • LondonRacer said on 14th May 2010, 10:29

            there is a different between RACING and DRIVING like many others

            without LH you’d be going on about how boring this season has been… his overtaking record shows he’s the best out there, despite not having an Adrian Newby designed car of Red Bull

            a lot of drivers have caused accidents – but few have excited us in the same way as LH.. and he’s a nice bloke, compared to Schuma

          • BasCB said on 14th May 2010, 17:28

            Hello LondonRacer, i fail to see the relevance of your reaction to my post.

          • David A said on 14th May 2010, 18:26

            @London Racer

            It’s easy to say he’s the best simply on the number of overtakes he’s done, but have you stopped to think that other drivers have put themselves in positions where they don’t need to overtake so much? This is part of why Lewis isn’t leading the championship this season, nor has he won a race. You’re also disregarding the abilities of guys like Alonso, who fought his way through the pack superbly at Australia.

    • MigueLP said on 14th May 2010, 1:05

      HAIRS you all right
      who is hamilton to say that he has done the same or worse but just because he is british the media simply closes the eyes he doesnt need to cheat he is a good driver but he has taken the short track a lot of times

      • David BR said on 14th May 2010, 2:31

        No he’s not right. Hamilton drives fairly enough – pushing the rules envelope is something *all* the drivers do, including Alonso (witness his move on Massa in Shanghai), Raikonnen etc. Usually these are heat of the moment decisions. What Schumacher did was much more cynical, usually calculated to ruin his opponents chances when his own had faltered for some reason. For this reason, I think his legacy is tainted. It’s equally reflected in his off-track maneouvers to gain advantages over team mates – like over Rosberg this season. What puzzles me is *why* Lewis decided to reverse his early compliments about racing against Schumacher being something special. Maybe the treatment of Nico hasn’t gone down too well with the younger drivers.

        • Sri said on 14th May 2010, 5:00

          Senna was worse, but as Eddie Jordan said… Schumacher would have had to die on track and die young, for him to be as popular…

          Hamilton’s been here for what, 3 years plus? He already has done so much for himself :P So far he has lied to stewards, divided his team over and handed them on a platter to FIA… Then again, there are questionable racing incidents…

        • Maksutov said on 15th May 2010, 0:17

          “It’s equally reflected in his off-track maneouvers to gain advantages over team mates – like over Rosberg this season.”

          But you are only assuming that Schu is gaining ganing control of the team over Rosberg because you are expecting it so much, and thinking it so much. You in fact think it is happening but there is no proof and in reality it is actually not.

          “*why* Lewis decided to reverse his early compliments about racing against Schumacher being something special.”

          Because his comments always reflects to suit the situation. Which yet again suggests that he is not very honest. Had Schumacher dominated from start of this season, no doubt Hamilton would have continued with that story.

    • NSG said on 14th May 2010, 11:31

      Here we go, all you hammy busters will now try to find an excuse to blast Hammilton. Frankly, he is much more exciting as a driver than MS ever was and ever will be. He also has more overtakes in a quater of the season, than most drivers (even MS) do for a whole season. MS is certainly tainted as a driver and the 2006 incident is just one of them. So go for it Hammy, and give these whiners, who call themselves F1 drivers, a lesson in Driving

      • BasCB said on 14th May 2010, 17:32

        NSG i am with you on Hamilton being a great racer, pulling of overtaking moves all over each track and giving us a great deal of exitement.
        But to state Schumacher never was just as exiting is a little bit out of the way. I can remember a lot of great laps, overtakes and races won from unpossible positions by Schumacher.
        Just a shame he comes with those incidents to taint his legacy, let’s hope he is not lost it and gives us some nice drives to remember in the races still to come to improve our view of him.

        • Maksutov said on 15th May 2010, 0:20

          “Just a shame he comes with those incidents to taint his legacy, let’s hope he is not lost it and gives us some nice drives to remember in the races still to come to improve our view of him.”

          agreed.

      • David A said on 14th May 2010, 18:33

        Considering the extreme attitudes and long debates caused by Schumi’s actions, I strongly disagree with you, when you claim that Ham is much more exciting than the 7 time champ. One thing you haven’t considered is that perhaps other drivers put themselves in better positions, so they don’t need to do as many overtakes as Hamilton. Remember, he isn’t exactly leading the world championship, is he?

        • NSG said on 18th May 2010, 10:24

          Frankly, I prefer seeing somebody overtaking on the track rather than in the pits. Since now the playing field has been leveled to just changing one set of tyres, people like MS are finding it difficult to overtake on track, as they havent really done that since taking up F1, which in a sentence explains his unimpressive races to date this year.

    • NSG said on 15th May 2010, 10:29

      All you Hammy bashers seem to be quivering in your pants to discover that people do believe MS has a tainted legacy. Frankly, MS is, was and will be the most boring driver of all time, besides being overhyped. He was in the right team at the right moment, certainly, he was responsible for building the team around himself. All his co-drivers signed with a clause to ‘move over’ for MS. Thus he reduced competition to just twenty cars. Besides all the cars with Ferrari motors which would also keel over as soon as MS was behind them he reduced the competition to a mere 18 cars and out of this batch, none were up to the Ferrari’s in any departement.Thus basicaly he was racing around in a race car with his partner not allowed to race against him and the rest of the field were running around pushing prams. MS overtook cars in the pit lane, unlike Hammy, Hammy in his short f1 career dares to and has probably ‘overtaken’ the number of ‘on track’ overtakes that MS has done in his total track career. If I counted all the MS antics of trying to keep the competition at bay unsportingly, I would end up with a figure which would be higher than all the overtakes he has ever dared to. I rest my case. MS = boring, Hammy = an exciting F1 driver

  2. David A said on 13th May 2010, 17:03

    So much for being smart and keeping your mouth shut…

    • Einar AI said on 13th May 2010, 18:46

      Actually this made me remember a quote from the “American Gangster” film: “the loudest in the room is the stupidest in the room.”

      This quote explicitly applies to Lewis of all the F1 drivers: at times when he needs to shut up and concentrate on getting within the reach of the title battle, he says unnecessary things about others. Maybe he should remember he’s the only driver to have been reprimanded twice in the last five races. Now that he again (unnecessarily) attracted media attention, a tiniest controversy involving him will become a scandal.

      As sad as it is, I really feel that Lewis is slightly losing the 2010 psychological war. He made too many blunders already. Firstly, he willingly refused to have his family (most importantly Anthony, of course) in the McLaren pits – thereby yielding their space to “Jenson Button crew.” Secondly, pushed his tyres too far on a number of occasions – in the situation where his driving style only provokes blunders. Thirdly, he is already far behind in the points (alongside Massa, who is clearly having problems with the handling of the car). Let’s face it, he is already not the most likeable figure in the paddock and he just accumulates more and more enemies. I’m not too sure he can count on an amiable response from Schumi after this. Lewis may be a great racer, but he is a poor thinker and an extremely poor strategist.

      • Glenn said on 13th May 2010, 19:07

        Can you give me a source where you can find that says that he is wiling barring his family from the pits? I seem to remeber last week his brother being in the pits. And His father is focusing on his own endeavors with the Anthony Hamilton F1 Academy. Nowhere have I read his has banned his family.

      • NSG said on 18th May 2010, 10:41

        If the interviewer finds his interviee replying with a shut mouth all you you guys will be calling Hammy a ‘dumbo’. Secondly, the whole sense of being interviewed would be lost , wouldnt it? For your kind information ‘Americain Gangsters’ is a hollywood movie. In real life the one who beats his drum the loudest is heard…. however dumb.

    • Ben Curly said on 13th May 2010, 21:06

      That’s just dishonest journalism. Here is what he actually said:

      http://uk.reuters.com/article/idUKLDE64C0W620100513

      “I want to be remembered as a fair driver as a clean driver and one that always drove with my heart and battled through thick and thin to score the points and the championships I will hopefully earn by then.”

      “For me, when I think about the history it is not just about me, it is about how my family raised me, and where we came from.

      “For that to be potentially tainted by something like that (Schumacher’s Monaco controversy) would be really devastating for me. That is definitely something I don’t want to be remembered for.”

      “I just focus on my own job. It doesn’t have any impact on me. You guys have an opinion about it…whether I think it was right or wrong I wasn’t in the car with him,”

      “It doesn’t do anything for me whatsoever,” he said.

      “He is a world champion and you want to be up against a world champion. It is always a privilege to be on the same track as him as it is having him in the sport.

      “It would be special if I was on the track with (the late Brazilian champion) Ayrton (Senna), for me, but everyone has their own points of view.”

      Sounds a little bit different, doesn’t it?

        • LAK said on 14th May 2010, 3:22

          To give you credit, you did mention the fact that we can read the rest of what he said in the attached link, but you knew which parts to extract lol.

          I was a bit surprised that Lewis would say that Shumacher does nothing for him specially after being so excited about getting to race in the pre-season. But after reading the whole thing, he did say good things about Michael.

          Now to the point of the article..

          How will they be remembered? Yes Schumi doesn’t have the cleanest reputations, and Hamilton made some mistakes (mainly the liegate) that he did apologize for, but what’s the first thing you remember when thinking of Schumacher? For me it’s that he’s a 7 time World Champion, his skill and talent, then all the tainted reputation and controversies. So no matter what Hamilton does or any other talented driver does, they will remembered most importantly for their achievements, WDCs, and talent. (Hey even Senna may have had his controversial moments back then, and what do we think of him now? A legend!)

          • Maksutov said on 15th May 2010, 0:31

            “To give you credit, you did mention the fact that we can read the rest of what he said in the attached link, but you knew which parts to extract lol.”

            Haha,.. I had enough trust to simply read the important points of the article on this thread. Assuming Keith has covered “ALL” the points of Hamiltons conversation. Which is what I would expect from Keith. But now that I read that article, hmmm… that is not really the case is it.

        • Ben Curly said on 14th May 2010, 7:20

          Keith, I think you have the best F1 site on the web, period. However I don’t think this article accurately represented what the guy said. Maybe “dishonest journalism” wasn’t the right choice of words, but I just expected better. In my opinion even Planet F1 did a better job covering this story.

          I find myself in a strange position of defending Lewis again, and he is not one of my favorite F1 characters. I understand that you didn’t want to entirely rip-off your source, but the bits and pieces you selected kind of distorted the image.

      • BasCB said on 14th May 2010, 8:23

        Hello Ben, i just read your (pretty convincing) post and others blaiming Keith of changing the meaning of what was said in the original interview.
        As is am used to having good articles by Keith showing his opinion, but not biased i had to read the original.

        Interestingly, you do exactly that, what you blame Keith of doing. By quoting only Lewis answer to the questions and not the commentary connecting them, you change the meaning of his words.

        Yes, is quoted as speaking about not having an opinion on Schumi 2006. The next quote is “It doesn’t … whatsoever. But the text by Reuters telling us what the second quote was relating to (Lewis on racing with Schumi) is crucial here and gives it exactly the meaning Keith extracted from it in his article.

  3. Glenn said on 13th May 2010, 17:06

    Lewis has a long career ahead of him, I think the incidents will be long forgetten after his long and successful career as an F1 driver come to an end.

    It is interesting however that I seem to remember last year when there where serious rumors of Schumi’s return to replace Massa, Him being on of the many drivers who said they would relish at the chance to drive along-side Schumacher.

    Perhaps his stance has changed now that he has raced along side Schumacher and realised that he is in fact human and beat-able.

    • Glenn said on 13th May 2010, 18:41

      As Always it is always best to get the story straight from the horse’s mouth, This is his entire quote as stated by Rueters.

      http://uk.reuters.com/article/idUKLDE64C0W620100513

      “I want to be remembered as a fair driver as a clean driver and one that always drove with my heart and battled through thick and thin to score the points and the championships I will hopefully earn by then.”

      “For me, when I think about the history it is not just about me, it is about how my family raised me, and where we came from.

      “For that to be potentially tainted by something like that (Schumacher’s Monaco controversy) would be really devastating for me. That is definitely something I don’t want to be remembered for.”

      “”I just focus on my own job. It doesn’t have any impact on me. You guys have an opinion about it…whether I think it was right or wrong I wasn’t in the car with him,”

      “It doesn’t do anything for me whatsoever,” he said.

      “He is a world champion and you want to be up against a world champion. It is always a privilege to be on the same track as him as it is having him in the sport.

      “It would be special if I was on the track with (the late Brazilian champion) Ayrton (Senna), for me, but everyone has their own points of view.”

      He does pay omage to Schumacher and does not discredit what he has done. But like any competitor, He has to see and treat Schumi like any other person that he is competing against him. A competitor who pays too much respect gets beat. You have to believe in your abilities to beat anyone else o the grid. If you don’t you’ve already lost before you started.

      Some might see it as disrespect to Schumi but I bet Schumi would have it no other way. A true competitor does not want to receive a gift from anyone, they want to earn it.

      • theRoswellite said on 13th May 2010, 19:07

        Glenn, thanks for bringing out more of what Lewis actually said.

        For many (maybe most?) drivers, just using the standard platitudes is enough to get them through an interview. I always enjoy Hamilton’s comments for good or bad, as he often explains his feelings or opinions with uncommon frankness.

        A refreshing change.

      • Icthyes said on 13th May 2010, 19:10

        That’s interesting to see the ‘it doesn’t do anything for me’ quote in that context. I don’t wish to speak ill of Keith, who’s perhaps the most unbiased and least sensationalist major blogger out there, but it’s a long way from the impression he gives in the article. A mistaken interpretation, I hope?

        • Glenn said on 13th May 2010, 19:30

          The Reueter article is very misleading in the fact that they do not publish the question asked of him to warrant that response. They instead publish this editorial blurb;

          “The prospect of racing Schumacher, a five times winner in Monaco, might once have been a big thrill but not any more for a youngster who has achieved so much already in three seasons in the sport.”

          The reporter could have asked any number of questions to warrant that answer, but they way the arranged the articles leads one to believe that the question that was asked was what he thought of racing with Schumacher.

          • Mike said on 14th May 2010, 7:08

            That’s quite an interesting point, that happens an awful lot now that I think about it!

          • BasCB said on 14th May 2010, 8:07

            Maybe passing a not on form Schumacher in China was a little bit of an anti-climax for Lewis.
            If they get in a fight here in Monaco it will be more on the lines of not getting past, waiting for pitstops or a crash for at least one of them.

  4. Didn’t Hamilton say something about being upset that he missed out on the chance of racing against Schumacher when he first came?

    • steph said on 13th May 2010, 17:15

      I think. I thought Ham said before the season that he really wanted to race against Schumacher?

      • Ned Flanders said on 13th May 2010, 17:23

        He did. Perhaps we shouldn’t be taking this at face value. We all know Schumacher has a fragile confidence at times, and given that Hamilton and Schumi are now direct competitors than you’d have to assume these are just mind games from Hamilton

        • Todfod said on 13th May 2010, 18:34

          Yeah it could be… or he raced against Schumi and realised that he has had tougher competitors throughout his career.

        • Icthyes said on 13th May 2010, 19:11

          Or, if you see the quote in context as provided by Glenn, it doesn’t seem like he has anything bad to say about Schumacher. In fact it seems almost respectful.

      • F1withMySon said on 13th May 2010, 17:23

        Maybe the ease at which Lewis has beaten Schumacher took the fun out of racing against him?

        • Mike said on 13th May 2010, 17:31

          I don’t hear Button complaining, and he’s still whipping Hamilton and Schumacher…. no?

          • F1withMySon said on 13th May 2010, 18:07

            Actually, Button was complaining earlier this week that he couldn’t get past Schumacher!

          • Mike said on 14th May 2010, 6:56

            Not quite what I meant but correct none the less…

    • Weasel Chops said on 13th May 2010, 17:48

      Yeah and pretty sure he talked about relishing the chance to race Schumacher before this season started. But back then I think he dad was still writing the scripts.

    • PJA said on 13th May 2010, 17:54

      I think he did say he looked forward to racing Schumacher, but expectation is one thing and reality is another.

      After having raced with Schumacher Hamilton probably realised it wasn’t that different to racing Alonso.

      Also I wouldn’t expect any racing driver it means a lot to them to be racing someone they are competing against.

      • Eric said on 13th May 2010, 21:51

        Cmon guys…I’m no Shumacher fan but racing him now and racing him in his prime are vastly different. Not taking anything away from Ham but Shuey is not the driver he was years ago.

  5. Gilles said on 13th May 2010, 17:07

    I agree with Hairs & David A.
    An incredible cheap shot by Lewis, forgetting his own stains.

  6. Eastman said on 13th May 2010, 17:07

    Schumacher had years to build up his “boat”. Hamilton is doing just fine putting his together plank by plank.

    Can a driver cannot be great these days without pushing the envelope? I’d say no. Every modern great is simultaneously loved and hated, lauded and despised. It is but a burden of being such a special talent.

    Hamilton, when all is said and done, won’t be any different.

    • macca77 said on 13th May 2010, 17:36

      The only way to clean all your “boat” has to be dying on the track. That would make you the “hero” of everybody and a saint. And by a certain extend retiring can also soften how the young guns talk about you, ’cause for the last 3 years none of the drivers were talking trash about Schumi’s legacy, or saying that competing against him (a 7WDC) is the same as competing against all the other mediocre drivers he has been racing against for the last 3 years. I hope he is playing ‘mind games’ with the Schu (guess not, Schu is not a rival at the moment), or maybe Lewis has joined the schumi haters club, more likely its just one more sign of the lack of respect Hami has for everyone in F1 (fans, racers, teammates, etc) demonstrated by a lot of incidents in his short career as an F1 driver.
      It’s sad though ’cause I remember him (when he was a humble person at the beginning of 2007) saying that it was a shame Schumi was not around anymore, because he wanted to race against him.

      • sumedh said on 13th May 2010, 17:54

        I think your first line is one of the most poignant I have read on F1Fanatic or for that matter, on any F1 forum.

        Perhaps, the reason Schumacher and Hamilton attract so much negative attention is because they haven’t died on track like Senna did.

        • Mahir C said on 13th May 2010, 18:03

          Years ago I remember Eddie Jordan saying a similar thing; that he hoped Schumacher would never be crowds’ all time greatest because that would require him dying at a young age on the track.

      • Icthyes said on 13th May 2010, 19:15

        The only way to clean all your “boat” has to be dying on the track. That would make you the “hero” of everybody and a saint

        I’ve been saying this about Senna for a long while. Also, yesterday rampante wrote something about Gilles Villeneuve being mostly at fault for causing an accident in which other people died.

        Somehow though, I think it’s too late for Schumacher and Hamilton to die and be expunged of their “crimes”. We live in a different era now, a lot less respectful one.

  7. Ned Flanders said on 13th May 2010, 17:19

    Ana rticle referring to Hamilton, Schumacher and controversy all in the same headline? This is bound to get a lot of comments!

  8. sumedh said on 13th May 2010, 17:19

    Lewis is definitely one of the most talented drivers ever. Perhaps, the most talented on the grid right now (yes, he is at par with Alonso and Schumacher).

    But he could perhaps take a leaf out of Schumacher’s book here.

    Schumacher has consistently refused to answer questions that might spark a controversy. Hamilton could do well to follow his footsteps. Alonso learnt this the hard way in 2007. I thought Hamilton learnt his lesson at Australia 2009 when too much talking to the media led to his downfall. But I was wrong. This kid still has to just talk, talk and talk!!!

  9. Sangeen Khan said on 13th May 2010, 17:21

    If Lewis can get anywhere near 7 World Titles he will probably have more stains on his career than Schumacher.You just cant win so much by being a nice guy…

  10. F1withMySon said on 13th May 2010, 17:21

    Lewis is not perfect, but I could not imagine him doing something as blatant and dangerous as parking sideways on the track and then purposely stalling the car. Top drivers (Lewis included) are fierce competitors who should seize any advantage available. But Schumacher’s action was just dumb, dangerous, transparent cheating–a desperate act.

  11. Mike said on 13th May 2010, 17:23

    Don’t take this the wrong way Mr Hamilton, but I suspect your run of controversies will rivals his, and Don’t take this the wrong way, but I doubt your record of successes will.

    And I also remember him relishing fighting with Schumacher.

    • David A said on 13th May 2010, 17:28

      Yep, so it is a bit rich of him to be saying this now. He starts taking cheap shots at other drivers just when I was beginning to like him.

    • plushpile said on 14th May 2010, 0:56

      “Don’t take this the wrong way Mr Hamilton, but I suspect your run of controversies will rivals his, and Don’t take this the wrong way, but I doubt your record of successes will.”

      Agreed. 100%

  12. HewisLamilton said on 13th May 2010, 17:30

    Lewis should hope to have a legacy. One WDC does not a legacy make. IMHO

    As for Schumacher and the press, everyone knows about Mocaco 2006 / Rascasse. We know what happened. We know the reults and the punishment. Why is it still an issue with the press? Michael got caught and was punished. Is that not enough? I guess further humiliation is in order…..

  13. Sam said on 13th May 2010, 17:33

    Lewis is getting involved in a conversation he has no part of. I mean sure, he won one title and has had a display of some good effort, BUT he has had his share of moments where he looked just as questionable. schumacher was in the sport for over ten yrs, and he didnt always have the best equipment, matter of fact he was stuck battling mclaren and williams with inferior equipment. this sounds more like something that should be coming out of buttons mouth, not lewis’s. but if i was lewis id just shut my mouth and get on with my gameplan. some people just want to stir up crap and theres no exception here. once lewis has done everything schumacher did and WITH LESS contreversy tied to his whole career(which he never will), then he is more entitled to come and throw out such dialogue. I reckon if michael schumacher was of a different nationality we wouldnt be discussing this even. But you know what, say what you want to say about the guy, youre obviously trying to take away from his legacy and you never will. Jensen was crying after last weekends race because he got punked lap after another by a crappy grey and teal car.

  14. Fer no.65 said on 13th May 2010, 17:36

    He will be remembered just like Schumacher because it’s 50/50 between those who love him and those who hate him.

    He had a lot of controvertial moments, just like Schumacher. And of course, no one can really argue about his speed and talent.

    And it all happened in 3 seasons.

    But he also avoids to shut up a bit…

    So controversies are on sight. He talks a lot when sometimes he shouldn’t even open his mouth.

    • Icthyes said on 13th May 2010, 19:31

      Well, the article says nothing about if he gave his opinion freely or was asked a direct question – and if the latter, and he had declined, some would be saying that he was deliberately avoiding the issue because he “knows” he’s as bad as Schumacher was. So who knows.

  15. Racky said on 13th May 2010, 17:43

    I thought that during Schumachers failed comback last year Hamilton said he had been really looking forward to racing Shumacher and was disappointed the German retired just before Hamiltons debut. The reason i bring this up is i’m confused why he now says racing Schumacher is nothing special. Is it a change of heart now Michael isn’t as competitive as he was, or that Lewis is worried about being associated with Michael after what happened yesterday.

    • DaveW said on 13th May 2010, 18:05

      If you had read a little bit more of the article, or if Keith had helped us out by quoting the article in a balanced fashion, you would see Hamilton holds exactly that view:

      “He is a world champion and you want to be up against a world champion. It is always a privilege to be on the same track as him as it is having him in the sport.”

      Furthermore, you would also find that Hamilton expressly declined to pass judgement on the 2006 incident. For a journalist, it is one thing to argue that a public figure should know and be responsible for the implications of a fair possible alternative interpretation of a statement. It is another to chop it off a statement in the middle and attest that it is the opposite of its plain meaning. Just my opinion.

      • Keith Collantine (@keithcollantine) said on 13th May 2010, 18:17

        There’s a balance to be struck between using enough of a quote to report what someone is saying accurately, and not abusing a source by copying all of their content.

        I included the link to Reuters’ article – twice – and specifically stated you can read the quotes in full there. I don’t intend either to mislead anyone or rip off anyone else’s work.

        • Hairs said on 13th May 2010, 19:09

          Great response Keith.

          Far too many sites (and print outlets) are fond of ripping off whole pieces and not crediting the source.

        • DaveW said on 13th May 2010, 23:38

          In all honesty, the answer that you linked to the original and that you didn’t quote more is not convincing. The entire post is about what was reported first elsewhere, and the fact that you can’t quote it all doesn’t speak to the choice of what to quote.

          The problem is, this is not really some random hacks blog where you take stuff with a grain of salt and accept the known bias, this is a bona fide news source now, and it will be held to same standards as ITV-F1, BBC, etc. You have raised the bar for yourself with the quality and speed of your reporting and analysis, and so you have higher standards to meet now than your peers to meet.

          • Mike said on 14th May 2010, 4:54

            Well, I wouldn’t agree, It’s a blog, not an official news agency site, He can write what he wants.

            I don’t think he used the quotes in an abusive way, and I suspect, that he has a right to have his own take on what goes on, Just as we do in the comments, Keith regularly puts links on his site to other mainstream F1 sites so I don’t think someone could be under an illusion that this is the only source for F1 information.

            Different sites with different writers will have and demonstrate different opinions, and this shows when you read any given article. It isn’t too often that people disagree with what he says, and you do have a right to of course! but to attack his journalism because you dislike his take, or opinion on what is going on, is a bit low.

        • Maksutov said on 15th May 2010, 1:01

          “I included the link to Reuters’ article – twice – and specifically stated you can read the quotes in full there. I don’t intend either to mislead anyone or rip off anyone else’s work.”

          ….

          “Hamilton added that racing against Schumacher “doesn’t do anything for me whatsoever”” <——-

          I am not really sure that Hamilton specifically stated that point. In fact from what I gather, his remarks about "doesn’t do anything for me whatsoever" refereed to the incident involving Schumacher at Monaco.

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