McLaren fastest again in second practice as Red Bull hit reliability trouble

Posted on | Author Keith Collantine

Last year's winner Jenson Button was fastest in second practice
Last year's winner Jenson Button was fastest in second practice

McLaren were fastest again in the second practice session for the Turkish Grand Prix.

Close behind Button were the two Red Bulls. But both suffered reliability problems on their cars, with Mark Webber coming to a stop at the end of the session.

His car rolled to a halt as he accelerated away from the second corner, coming to a stop with a wisp of smoke from the airbox.

Sebastian Vettel had a water pipe change before the start of the session. But towards the end of second practice he drove slowly into the pit with a loss of water pressure in his RB6.

When they were on the track the RB6s looked very quick. They were visibly faster through turn eight and showed a clear advantage on the stopwatch as well.

All the teams had to cope with track temperatures in excess of 50C from the beginning of the session.

Several drivers struggled with turn eight during the session: Felipe Massa, Vitantonio Liuzzi and Kamui Kobayashi all had more than one off-track excursion at the corner.

Vitaly Petrov also ran wide there in the Renault and Karun Chandhok had a spin in the HRT at the end of the session.

Massa’s high-speed spin ruined a set of soft tyres, disadvantaging him for the rest of the session.

He ended the session in tenth place with team mate Fernando Alonso fifth. Between them were the two Mercedes and two Renaults.

Pos. Car Driver Car Best lap Laps
1 1 Jenson Button McLaren-Mercedes 1’28.280 30
2 6 Mark Webber Red Bull-Renault 1’28.378 0.098 24
3 5 Sebastian Vettel Red Bull-Renault 1’28.590 0.31 27
4 2 Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 1’28.672 0.392 32
5 8 Fernando Alonso Ferrari 1’28.725 0.445 30
6 4 Nico Rosberg Mercedes 1’28.914 0.634 22
7 3 Michael Schumacher Mercedes 1’28.974 0.694 22
8 11 Robert Kubica Renault 1’29.225 0.945 34
9 12 Vitaly Petrov Renault 1’29.501 1.221 36
10 7 Felipe Massa Ferrari 1’29.620 1.34 26
11 14 Adrian Sutil Force India-Mercedes 1’29.629 1.349 16
12 10 Nico H???lkenberg Williams-Cosworth 1’29.987 1.707 17
13 23 Kamui Kobayashi Sauber-Ferrari 1’30.053 1.773 34
14 22 Pedro de la Rosa Sauber-Ferrari 1’30.176 1.896 34
15 16 Sebastien Buemi Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1’30.386 2.106 32
16 15 Vitantonio Liuzzi Force India-Mercedes 1’30.627 2.347 28
17 9 Rubens Barrichello Williams-Cosworth 1’30.766 2.486 32
18 17 Jaime Alguersuari Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1’30.933 2.653 37
19 19 Heikki Kovalainen Lotus-Cosworth 1’31.610 3.33 37
20 25 Lucas di Grassi Virgin-Cosworth 1’33.013 4.733 28
21 18 Jarno Trulli Lotus-Cosworth 1’33.081 4.801 11
22 24 Timo Glock Virgin-Cosworth 1’33.312 5.032 29
23 21 Bruno Senna HRT-Cosworth 1’33.420 5.14 35
24 20 Karun Chandhok HRT-Cosworth 1’33.740 5.46 25

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51 comments on “McLaren fastest again in second practice as Red Bull hit reliability trouble”

  1. look keith, i’m sick of your unnecessarily biased and misleading titles. gees.


    1. yea you need to visit doctor

      1. refer to the fp1 analysis. some hilarious comments

    2. lol, yeah there is bound to be some fanboy to come round and complain about the title once again. Better beat them to it :)

      OT: I though they said that they were replacing a waterpipe in Vettel’s car. Not (just) a fuelpump?

      1. I don’t know why I wrote fuel pump, it was a water pipe. Fixed it, thanks.

        1. You are overworked.

    3. me too really wanting mclaren to win isnt going to make them win lets just analize data so see weather is it possible…no

  2. Red bull looks ominous with mclaren and ferrari quite a bit behind.what is happening with massa !!.it was supposed to be his strongest track yet he was behind alonso first with the prime tyres and then ruining the options.hopefully he’ll come good tomorrow.btw where can i get the top speed links.

    1. yeh, it must be quite disheartening for massa to have petrov in front of him in turkey of all places. i hope he comes good too, give alonso a run for his money.

  3. may be if no complaint was made the headline would have been something like this

    “Mclaren fastest again BUT “redbull looking racy/dangerous/”

    or “mclaren fastest again but redbull has potentials”

    the first comments on this page are from keith’s fanboys always kisiing ass all day and would mock the truth when told

    1. I don’t understand, what’s your complaint about the headline?

      1. oh, wow, it seems you just can’t win keith. haha

        1. Apparently blown engines and pump problems are only realiability issues when they happen to HRT/Lotus/Virgin (or McLaren?) cars, with Red Bulls they indicate that the car is so fast it can’t even stay in one piece!

          1. *reliability even

      2. A Headline is used to inform and grab the reader’s attention. Which is exactly what your headline did. They is nothing wrong.

      3. I guess he’s blaming you for being too much on Red Bull’s side. His “warning” in the previous thread with the unacceptable headline there is what made this new headline acceptable.

        Guess we have curedcat to thank for the fact that we (finally) have a good headline. Yay for curedcat …

      4. this teenagers are more complicated to understand than women. I don’t see anything wrong with the title. May be they are just pulling your leg.

        1. Boo don’t insult teenagers ;)
          I don’t see any problem with the title;
          Were Mclaren fastest again? Yes.
          Were Redbull hit by reliability issues for the 100th time? Yes.
          What else can he say about it?

          1. Maybe HRT slowest in FP2 whilst De la Rosa ends up 14th ?

    2. Terry Fabulous
      28th May 2010, 14:28

      Mate this isn’t a site for you to take shots at people and especially not at the webmaster.

      Manners please.

      1. i must admit though, he has provided me with quite an amusing evening which is quite welcome given the stresses of uni at this time of the year.

    3. i don’t understand what’s wrong with the title. and i’m certainly not a ‘fanboy’.

  4. I apologise for trolls like me. They just don’t know how luck ythey are to have places like here for commentary, pictures and sharing of ideas/opinions.

    If you want well thought out headlines, you need to wait few more hours for other related posts.

  5. I was watching practice with the sound off – does anyone know what Mark Webber was trying to communicate to the marshalls that they blatantly couldn’t understand? When he got out of the car I was expecting him to start trying to push it somewhere by himself!

    1. He was trying to tell them to put the fire extinguisher behind one of this tyres to prevent the car from roll backwards and they took a long time to understand what he was on about.

      1. HounslowBusGarage
        28th May 2010, 14:30

        At the risk of revealing ignorance, is there no parking-type brake in an F1 car?

        1. He wanted them to block the tires because presumably he cant keep the brakes on in one place due to the heat. If I had to guess holding the car in one spot would cause the breaks to fuse together or catch on fire.

          1. HounslowBusGarage
            28th May 2010, 15:10

            Understand. Ta.

          2. Sush Meerkat
            28th May 2010, 15:22

            It would boil the brake fluids and destroy stuff.

          3. basically if you keep the pads on the discs at high temps they will fuse together.
            If you ever take your car to a track day, never put the handbrake on after doing your laps until the car cools down for exactly this reason.

      2. Cheers for that. I can understand why they had trouble understanding – imagine trying to play charades and getting “Please put that fire extiguisher over there behind my front wheel so I don’t roll backwards into a wall”…

    2. He wanted them to stop his car from rolling backwards. In the end they understood that he wanted them to lodged the fire extinguisher under the tyre.

  6. So saying McLaren was fastest, Button at top of the charts, and Red Bull having reliability problems, Weber stopping on track and Vettel requiring a parts swap, is somehow inaccurate or hype? Seems to me a succinct wrap-up of practice, Red Bull is the chassis with the most potential lately so of interest to most fans, and McLaren was the fastest in the session so of importance as well.
    Stick with the clear informative headlines Keith as always.

    1. couldn’t agree more. it’s almost so good you don’t actually have to read the article to know what’s happened. if only all journalists could do that.

    2. This being the internet there will always be a fanboy or someone who doesn’t like a title or an article.

  7. I reckon this F1Fanatic site is fantastic. All the comments, the photos and the links. Go Webber…..

  8. do you think it’s fortunate in a way that webber had his problem today and not at the start of FP3? hopefully the issue can be resolved for tomorrow which will mean he won’t actually lose any running time at all.

  9. I miss the days when the heated discussions were about racing skills and drivers’ personalities, all with a minimum level of education and common sense. I was part of the “troublemakers” in recent years, but these new guys are just awful – Complaining about Headlines? Get a life. Keith deserves nothing but praise for this place.

    1. Curedcat sure is one angry dude. Ive never heard of a complaint of a headline before. LOL

  10. Red bulls always sand bag in the practise session but what is the most terrifying is that when you look at the sector times they have a 0.5 second advantage in sector 2.

  11. It may be stating the obvious, but the fact that Webber needed that fire extinguisher behind the front tire to keep his car from rolling back suggests it was gearbox failure that put him out. Will he get a grid penalty if he gets a new one?

    1. Nevermind ! I just read elsewhere that it was the engine (supposedly right at the end of it’s life expectancy) that blew.

  12. Stuck at mining site have no TV out here, any one have a torrent for second practise?

  13. IIRC didn’t Vettel have an engine failure in FP2 last year, in exactly the same place.

  14. Big thank you to Mark Webber for the hilarious arm waving. He was just so irate and I understand but it just became so comical. This weekend hasn’t been the mostn exciting but with karun setting the slowest ever lap around Turkey (even wondering if he would roll down the hill at one point) and Webber’s manic arm flinging it has been comedy.

    1. Don’t forget Schu giving Massa a wave!

  15. I’m begin’n to like this guy Karun. I mean he isn’t arrogant and is quite humourous.i like it

  16. “showed a clear advantage on the stopwatch as well”

    I disagree Keith, look at the times?!

    1. Check thee fastest sector times, in S2 where the T8 is, the 2 red bulls are 4 tenth quicker than any other team there, that’s 4 tenth of a light year in F1.

  17. Red Bull are once again toying with everyone. I suspect during FP# they will be deep into the 01:27’s cropping Half a second in S1, and S3.

    Did anyone else catch during FP1 they showed the on-board lap of Vettel driving through turn 8 and he took his hand of the sterring wheel to activiate the F-Duct?
    They might have been running with the limiter on but still carrying a good bit of speed and Stalling the Rear wing during arguably on the most downforce dependent corners of the year.

    If I saw it correctly these guys must be making soo much downforce from the Diffuser they can afford to the stall the wing. Toying.

  18. Electrolite
    28th May 2010, 20:53

    I know we don’t know the fuel loads and tires etc, but well done to Vitaly for getting ahead of Massa in a Ferrari. Showed promise in the other practice too.

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