Adjustable rear wings confirmed for 2011 – but only for overtaking

Debates and polls

Drivers will be allowed to adjust their rear wings to overtake in 2011

Drivers will be allowed to adjust their rear wings to overtake in 2011

F1 cars will get adjustable rear wings in 2011 – but drivers will only be allowed to use them to overtake the car in front.

Should adjustable rear wings be allowed in 2011?

  • Yes - drivers should be allowed to use them at any time in the race (48%)
  • Yes - but drivers should only be allowed to use them to overtake in races (21%)
  • No - adjustable rear wings should not be allowed at all in races in 2011 (32%)

Total Voters: 2,015

Loading ... Loading ...

Speaking during the Vodafone McLaren Mercedes Phone-In the team’s engineering director Paddy Lowe confirmed the adjustable rear wings would be allowed as F-ducts had been banned for 2011.

Lowe said drivers will be allowed to use them at any time during qualifying.

But in the races drivers will not be allowed to use them in the first two laps. After that they will only be allowed to use them if they are within one second of a rival car as Lowe explained:

[It’s] been agreed to ban the ‘F-flap’, or ‘F-duct’, system. But in their place we will have an adjustable rear wing. The flap will be adjustable by the driver.

You can run it however you likes in qualifying which will allow you to get a better lap time using it wherever you can. In the race you can’t use it for the first two laps at all.

But after that if you’re within a second of the car in front then you will be able to deploy it. That will be very interesting. It’s a FOTA initiative to help improve the show and I think it’s very exciting.
Paddy Lowe

Lowe also confirmed FOTA had agreed to let teams use Kinetic Energy Recovery Systems in 2011 having suspended their use this year.

Read more: F1 2011 Season

Advert | Go Ad-free


194 comments on Adjustable rear wings confirmed for 2011 – but only for overtaking

1 5 6 7
  1. I’m not opposed to movable aerodynamic aids. Nor am I opposed to KERS, of whatever power and duration Fota/ FIA decide. I am absolutely opposed to contrived conditions of use. I am also opposed to manditory rules that divide the grid in relation to where they qualified, and the tire compounds they start the race with. I’m not particularily fond of manditory use of 2 tire compounds during the race. In my opinion the old Goodyear style qualifying tire, and race tire was far superior. It seemed to put the result in the race itself, Car/Driver to Car/ Driver, and pit strategy played a minor part. Allow pit stops, but make the racing relavant to why we watch them in the first place. Who is the BEST driver that day, and which is the best car. NOT who is the best chess player. or rule stretcher, with the fastest computer and biggest bank of theoratitions. Passing will be there when glandular fortidude, savvy, determination and opportunity come to the fore.
    Am I nuts?

  2. Roger Carballo AKA Archtrion said on 24th June 2010, 21:52

    Enough said…. it’s a horrible idea, a farce of a competition and cause enough to ask Mr Todt to move appart.

  3. Matt said on 25th June 2010, 2:22

    Once again this is the FIA and or FOTA trying to fix something that isnt broke. Improving the racing is down to 2 things in my opinon, and thats the circuit designs and also the difference between the tyre compounds. I think its safe to say both of those elements gave us the cracking race we had in Canada the other week.

    • Eric said on 25th June 2010, 3:16

      i believe it had more to do with the track surface Matt…
      same tyres this weekend but not the wear we had in Canada…

      KERS i see will also still be allowed so it will be an interesting 2011 season….
      someone drops there rear wing for more speed and the other driver pushes his KERS button to counter the overtaking move…

  4. Okay.. X in front and Y comes up to within a second behind him. Now Y hits the wonder button and dips his wing to pass.. but hang on, X pushes the KERS button at the same time and gets a boost. Result = Fail!

    KERS standardised and unlimited to use would have been the best answer. The muppets at FIA have gone overboard with the dipping rear wing and its almost certainly going to cause a lot of confusion next year.

  5. Vince said on 25th June 2010, 22:31

    Totally crazy, and the FIA want Joe Bloggs fans to get involved more and gain new audiences so they go add a stupid artificial addition to the rules. Also if KERS is coming back how complicated would it be to figure out who is doing what and when and how they got past :-s

    They should make the tyers lower profile on the rim and wider, remove all under-tray defuser fin aero and allow larger lower rear wings this will give more mechanical grip and a good wake to draft from. Remember the good old days of Mansell and Senna?

    Other Cart series races have plenty of overtaking so why cant F1.

  6. Eric said on 26th June 2010, 0:44

    KERS with Indy Cars run a system where they are limited to anything from 10-30 uses per race, which are for 10 seconds each with an eight-second recharge period between uses, each track is different some have more or less depending on the circuit…
    they also still refuel as well, the new system disengages the gears so you can not put the car in gear till the nozzle has been removed…
    they still have a problem were they loose front grip when traveling behind another car, so what new…

    personally i still would like to see how the Wing thing works once its been sorted…
    passing is such a do or die affair that you either get it right or the whole thing turns to custard…

  7. Enigma (@enigma) said on 1st July 2010, 12:26

    So if someone is within a second of someone in the last sector at Silverstone, he can adjust his wings from the pit straight until Stowe? That’s a BIG advantage.

  8. This is a ridiculous idea…. what happened to driver skill? It’s not like 2010 season was a bad one….far from it!

  9. Mike Johnson said on 16th November 2010, 6:28

    Just throw a full course caution with 3 laps to go every race, like we do in NASCAR

  10. Alonso Fan said on 19th November 2010, 0:44

    I think Alonso was the rightful winner of the 2010 Championship. Ferrari made a big mistake after Schumacher crashed by not bringing him into pit. Vettel got very luck indeed! But im Glad he won and not Hamilton. The thing about Alonso is, when he is winning he becomes happier and more outgoing AND much more modest. But when he is losing he takes it badly. In contrast Mark Webber and Sebastian Vettel became more arrogant as they were winning and could see the Championship within their sights. And i dont like this to be honest. The reason i like Alonso is cause he kicked Schumacher off the throne driving a Renault twice in a row and as i said he doesnt become aggressive or arrogant when winning.

    But i was disappointed in Alonso for waving those gestures at Petrov for not letting him past. Petrov has to prove he is cut out for F1 so he had every right to hold Alonso back to prove he could do what an F1 team requires. Still though, had Ferrari pitted Alonso at the same time as everyone else he would be Champion again. I just hope he will do it next year! Alonso pulled off an incredible lap to get fourth on the grid. the car wasnt fast enough and like everyone said, that was all him. He made errors, but he dragged it round to get fourth and that was damn impressive!

    Good luck next year Alonso! You will win it again

    Well done to Vettel, but i just wish he would act a little less arrogant next time. Same goes for Webber whom i thought was a really nice guy till he started winning. I prefer winners who keep their cool to losers who dont. Because losing when coming so close is painfull.

  11. Unsure if this has already been discussed – 7 pages of comments to read…

    Have seen it once or twice this season where the car behind has got a toe and pulled out to overtake but been on the rev limiter before they’re enough along side, how will the new rear wing get around this? will this be something new for engineers to think about when setting the ratios?


1 5 6 7

Add your comment

Your email address will not be published. Required fields are marked *

All comments must abide by the comment policy. Comments may be moderated.
Want to post off-topic? Head to the forum.
See the FAQ for more information.