Ferrari fined, World Motor Sport Council to examine Alonso’s pass on Massa

Ferrari have been fined $100,000 for breaking the Sporting Regulations during the German Grand Prix.

The stewards of the race have also referred the matter to the World Motor Sports Council. The result of the race stands for the time being.

Fernando Alonso passed Felipe Massa to win the German Grand Prix after the team had been heard instructing Massa that he was slower than his team mate.

Massa admitted after the race he let Alonso past but said he did so of his own choosing.

The stewards found Ferrari guilty of breaking article 39.1 of the Sporting Regulations which forbid team orders that influence the outcome of the race.

They additionally adjudged it to be a transgression of article 151c of the International Sporting Code, relating to bringing the sport into disrepute, the same section that McLaren were famously found in violation of in 2007.

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362 comments on Ferrari fined, World Motor Sport Council to examine Alonso’s pass on Massa

  1. djdaveyp said on 25th July 2010, 18:06

    Oh I love the Ferrari “fans”.

    You should look at McLaren in turkey, my back end!

    Clearly in turkey Jenson took Lewis by surprise, Lewis decided he was having none of it, so Jenson submitted.

    It is quite common for the criminal to point the finger at something else to divert your attention. However in todays society most of us are aware of this, so grow up and eat your humble pie.

    The FIA have a nice tight grip on Ferrari’s cojones. It is their upcomance for their silly remarks and constant outbursts.

    Maybe, one day, Ferrari will learn that they are not above everybody and their days of having vetos are over.

    Whilst they don’t learn this they will constantly have the book throw at them.

    I fear, when they do realise, they will probably run off crying and quit the sport.

    • judo chop said on 25th July 2010, 19:15

      Spot on. Fuel saving was a priority before the McLarens swapped positions in Turkey. If Jenson was willing to accept team orders – which I doubt – he wouldn’t have even attempted to pass Lewis. Lewis, like Senna and Mansell, would rather crash than hand over a position.

  2. Racer (@racer) said on 25th July 2010, 18:08

    $100,000? McLaren got a $100,000,000 fine in 07 and it didn’t seem to have much of an effect on them…

  3. Steph90 (@steph90) said on 25th July 2010, 18:10

    I’m pleasantly surprised by this. Maybe I’m cynical from the Mosley years or just plain cynical but I didn’t expect anything to happen. I may be a huge Ferrari fan but the most important thing is to have fair racing. It can’t happen in every circumstance say when a driver gets a better car or whatever but on track it should be free from manipulation. The racing comes first, personal driver/team preference comes a long second.

  4. addster f1 said on 25th July 2010, 18:14

    Was i the only one when Stefano Domenicali said no team order were given just felt like he was calling everybody who was watching stupid. I couldn’t belive it i think he should apologise to everyone. so angry at him, show the fans of F1 a little respect

    • flossyblossy said on 25th July 2010, 22:44

      Absolutely!!! He said there was no team orders and then gave that wry smile that he’s so good at. I can’t imagine anyone missed that. I spent 10 minutes shouting at the TV (what i shouted isn’t repeatable!).

  5. S.J.M said on 25th July 2010, 18:15

    So Ferrari are hit with a $100k fine, so the Stewards think that there is a case to answer for, Alonso should be worried about those 25 points he “earned” this afternoon.

  6. nelly said on 25th July 2010, 18:16

    You know who’ll be loving all this… I bet Max has already prank called Montezemolo saying some cocky comments, hung up, and had a good old giggle to himself. Then probably called Briatore for the sheer fun of it.

  7. Bernard said on 25th July 2010, 18:17

    Teams should not be allowed to convey any information to a driver about his team-mate. That would surely end team orders once and for all.

    • Steph90 (@steph90) said on 25th July 2010, 18:19

      It wouldn’t work. Say they are racing and I mean really racing how would they know about the gap or how to manage it or what strategy etc they were on? It’s a nice idea but it’s also a minefield. I do like how people are looking at ways to try to stop this in the future though :)

      • Salty said on 27th July 2010, 21:09

        Hate to say it, because seems such a dark ages option, but ban on team to driver radio. Allow them to send a signal for ‘BOX’ to appear on the wheel.

        But… really hate this option. Drivers need to know stats about their race position, lapping drivers on their tail, safety issues.

        Dunno! Really don’t – and I’m usually gobby about these things. Teams can apply orders in private pre-race anyway, so what can you do?

        I really dislike Eccelstone and DC’s take on this that says get over it, teams can decide race finish order – THAT ISN’T SPORT! But fail to see workable solution.

        Problem goes back to a very salient F1 feature – money. We often hear non-fans decry F1 as not being a ‘sport’ as teams are run as a business and variable levels of financial support queer the pitch. They’re right. FiA did try to address this with the proposed tech expenditure cap which was the sub-text that nearly split the teams from the FiA last season.

        100K is acceptable to Ferrari for getting the driver they want on the top step. Knowing you, you would have been gutted to see Felipe move aside for Alonso.

        What, as a Ferrari fan, is your feeling on this?

  8. Cyclops said on 25th July 2010, 18:20

    I guess some of you expect penalty more severe than in Crash-gate, just because the red guys are involved.

    • BasCB (@bascb) said on 25th July 2010, 22:54

      You can hardly get less severe than Crashgate.
      Renault was let off the hook, Alonso only testified, Piquet was handed immunity and both Symonds and Briatore were given a penalty that was not worth the paper it was written on.
      So yes, i expect a real penalty in this case.

  9. Its not enough! Massa must get the race win.
    Shame on Alonso and Ferrari

  10. PeterC said on 25th July 2010, 18:23

    Excellent blog Keith, thanks.

    I’m getting the feeling that controversy is getting to be the most exciting part of F1.

    With regard to today’s race, it seems to me that:
    – F1 is a team sport
    – teams compete for the Drivers and Constructors championships
    – thus, to ban team orders invites controversy
    – perhaps Massa should consider that if he were not so many points behind Alonso, things today may probably have been different.
    – the comparison with cycling doesn’t add up for me. The Tour de France is one event for about 19 days (weeks??). F1 is 19 separate and individual events.

    Today Vettel had a bad start and the Ferraris got ahead – and nobody challenged them though Vettel got close at times. P4 was about 26 secs of the pace and all were lapped up to P8. And that for me is boring. So I think that F1 have deeper problems to address than banning team orders in a team sport.

    • Osiris said on 25th July 2010, 18:42

      Still, TOs are banned, that’s the way things are right now, and if the FIA can prove their case, Ferrari should pay the penalty as defined in the law – was it not, after all, Alonso himself who complained about stewards “manipulating” the race in the wake of the Safety Car controversy a couple weeks ago?

  11. DannyJ said on 25th July 2010, 18:40

    I think that $100,000 is a token sum… what it really says is that the stewards know Ferrari are cheats! They’ve been branded now, just to compound their miserable year so far! Hehe…

  12. TMAX said on 25th July 2010, 18:44

    $100,000 is a loose change from Luca’s pocket.

    What a bargain… Now wonder FIA loves Ferrari. Fine 100,000. FIA richer by $100,000. Fernando and Ferrari keeps the Points from a well manipulated race.

    And who are the biggest losers “The Fans” ……

    • nelly said on 25th July 2010, 19:02

      Maybe it’s because they can’t hand out larger finds which is why they’ve handed over to the WMSC (well they probably would anyway).
      As someone has said before, that’s where things will get serious if they do.

  13. BBT said on 25th July 2010, 18:57

    They should just reverse the positions for the drivers points and make it no points for the team, I’d be happy with that.

    But a fine? That sends the message team orders every time its worth it.

  14. Caroline said on 25th July 2010, 18:58

    These guys are supposed to be the best and are undoubtedly the highest paid racing drivers in the world. If Alonso is the faster driver then let him pass the slower guy in front of him regardless of what team he’s on.

    Team orders should be upheld and all points taken away from people who violate them. Simple as that.

    Besides, Alonso cries like a biatch about everything.

  15. addster f1 said on 25th July 2010, 19:00

    Do you think alonso will call the race result a joke and say sorry to the fans like he did in valencia because the results wasn’t a true representation of the actual race just wondering

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