Ferrari fined, World Motor Sport Council to examine Alonso’s pass on Massa

Ferrari have been fined $100,000 for breaking the Sporting Regulations during the German Grand Prix.

The stewards of the race have also referred the matter to the World Motor Sports Council. The result of the race stands for the time being.

Fernando Alonso passed Felipe Massa to win the German Grand Prix after the team had been heard instructing Massa that he was slower than his team mate.

Massa admitted after the race he let Alonso past but said he did so of his own choosing.

The stewards found Ferrari guilty of breaking article 39.1 of the Sporting Regulations which forbid team orders that influence the outcome of the race.

They additionally adjudged it to be a transgression of article 151c of the International Sporting Code, relating to bringing the sport into disrepute, the same section that McLaren were famously found in violation of in 2007.

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  1. Swampy said on 25th July 2010, 19:03

    Would Massa have let Alonso through without the Code instruction from Smedley?

    Would Smedley have given the instruction without being told to by Management?

    The problem is political Alonso No1 Driver not getting his own way (Time at Mclarean) and Management.

    What of all the lies that the team have told to the public around the world in denial of TO. Sport fixing in any other sport is a serious allegation / crime, is F1 above this?

    Where does it say that F1 is a team sport, does that mean it’s fair game for No2 driver to hold up drivers deliberatly, so that no1 driver can take advantage of large gap, act like a wing man. Where does it end. Do people remember when Micheal ruined the sport with himself, Ferrari and poor attitudes

  2. Choltz said on 25th July 2010, 19:06

    For sake of balance Ferrari should loose the points gained during this race and end it there, that would make it clear about team orders. Maybe it should be more severe since the way they were wording their communications was just a slap in the face of the stewards, thinking they are idiots and don’t know what they are doing.. the only idiots here are in red.

  3. Slim said on 25th July 2010, 19:11

    I truly feel sorry for Massa and in parc ferme he seemed dejected… It was his race and he had a brilliant start. I also kind of feel bad for Alonso just because both drivers’ achievements are always undermined by Domenicali he is such an a-hole always crying about race fixing and then he does it himself…. shame on him. This kind of garbage ruins racing

  4. ADZ23 said on 25th July 2010, 19:11

    lets be honest f1 is dying…i thought 2006,07 & 08 where the best years of recent times,f1 is a sport where over taking is so hard and they visit tracks where over taking is almost impossible,but when we do get good races most people wanna moan about it,it doesnt seem to happen in any other motor sport that i know of,f1 teams dont care about what keeps us happy they just want the best result a team could ask for,massa was quick but not quick enough,he did so well but he may of cost them this 1/2 finish who knows,in the end massa was a tad over 4seconds behind alonso so that tells ya that alonso was quicker,but look how much vettel caught massa,in this sport you cant risk things,i think ferrari made the right choice,would people say the same if it was mclaren

    • David BR said on 25th July 2010, 19:52

      I think F1 is on a very firm up. 2009 was a bit of a lull after a bad decision over the ‘double diffuser’ left Brawn with a huge head start, but this season has been fantastic despite Red Bull’s apparent big advantage. Ferrari catching up also adds to the mix. Which is why the team order today made so many people disillusioned, I guess. It was also a really hideous order to give Massa on his ‘come back’ race, one year on, leading well and set to win.

      The idea Massa was holding up Alonso is just daft. He’d pulled 3 seconds or more ahead at one point, Alonso caught up again, then after Alonso passed, Massa stuck with him easily. And Vettel can’t get past anyone in a half-decent car.

  5. DaveW said on 25th July 2010, 19:13

    When Massa got the order, his response should have been, “well, he wasn’t faster at the start when I blew by him like he was tied to the ground.” If Fred wants to be #1 then he should learn to clean up his own mistakes, and make the pass. Really pathetic show by Fred and his team today. Vettel was not a threat, there was no possible altruistic motive for Massa to let Alonso by to protect the win for the team.

    This is exactly the same as that infamous Austria GP and Ferrari should know better. Oh, and Todt should recuse himself.

  6. ADZ23 said on 25th July 2010, 19:15

    to over take”i missed that bit out sorry

  7. This matter is stupid. Time to fixe it letting it go. All team do the same, all of them have a nº1 driver, but are less obvious. Vettel and Ham are nº1 and you all will see that are going to get in front of their teammates until the end of the season.
    The problem this time was that Felipe (apparently) did not know, he (and probably his engineer) was such furious that did a terribly stupid job, wich is that obvious that means “I´m the real winner” not this chap. Felipe is over for Ferrari this year, for sure.
    The others teams and drivers do a much better job than him, in spite of I´m sure he is capable to do but he didn´t want.
    When a driver thinks and speaks about their rivals for the championship talk about Hamilton, Vettel and Alonso, why do you think is for?.

  8. bigred (@bigred) said on 25th July 2010, 19:16

    http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/motor-racing/fia-fines-ferrari-schumacher-and-barrichello-646489.html

    check out what they did last time, can’t see what they can do now, only make it up as they go along (FIA that is)

    • it’s different. The fine was because Michael let Rubens step into the highest step of the podium.

      plus, now team orders are illegal (they weren’t then)

  9. Swampy said on 25th July 2010, 19:20

    Leave the points as they are, but give both Drivers 5 position pen at next GP

  10. There has always been team orders, more or less disguised. This year, for instance, McLaren has handled their drivers instructing them to save fuel at specific times of the race. And team orders is the only way to understand the reactions against Webber in the Red Bull incident in the Turkish GP.

    So they all use team orders. Today Ferrari (or Massa) didn’t disguise/camouflage the orders. Fining them for this is a fine for not acting as good as the other teams (or just not willing to act). I think F1 is for racing not for acting/performing.

    FIA must improve their regulations to have more consistent and seamless rules. And more important, they have to improve the technical regulations in order to let faster cars overtake the slower ones.

  11. judo chop said on 25th July 2010, 19:26

    The team order rule is too vague. They should just give Alonso a time penalty big enough to drop him to second, take away Ferrari’s constructors points on top of the $100000 fine and leave it at that until they make the rule clear and unambiguous.

  12. Alex said on 25th July 2010, 19:30

    Ferrari are back. Back with a win, and as traditional full of controversy and cheat!
    Alonso made a mistaque at the start and didn’t get punished for it…
    I wonder what storm Ferrari would have made if it had been Mclaren doing this? And how much Mclaren or any other team would have been punished for it?
    Unfortunately the best driver today was punished (Massa) and ultimately Ferrari should have been penalised as a team and both cars desqualified with victory given to Vettel…
    But then again F1 hasn’t been fair or just for a long time… a bit like football I guess – FIA, FIFA – clubs of elites where sport has no part in principle…

  13. How did Raikonen win the WDC in 2007?. Felipe and the team did much better that time than today.
    But, that was not race fixing, in fact was championship fixing!. In this case is OK, because Felipe could not win the championship, but is not fixing?.
    If it is fixing, it is. Does not matter if…. Do not go that way mates, F1 is this. The teammate is there to collect points from the others, not for winning races if nº1 is behind him.

  14. Marc said on 25th July 2010, 19:53

    This is NOT racing. Pure and simple.

  15. theRoswellite said on 25th July 2010, 19:58

    A final comment, considering his behavior while driving for McLaren…his “blackmail” threats…and his non-involvement in the “crashgate” Singapore GP…I can see why Alonso would be perturbed by not being allowed to assume his rightful place at the top of the podium…his entitled podium.

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