Red Bull mark 100th F1 start with win (Hungarian Grand Prix facts and stats)

Posted on | Author Keith Collantine

Red Bull, Hungaroring, 2010

Red Bull had both their cars on the front row for the sixth time this year, but once again they weren’t able to translate that into a one-two finish.

Despite that there was plenty for them to celebrate in their 100th Grand Prix start as they took the lead in the constructors’ championship and Mark Webber returned to the top of the drivers’ rankings.

Sebastian Vettel extended his run of consecutive pole positions to four. It was his seventh of the season and 12th of his career, giving him as many as Gerhard Berger and David Coulthard.

For Red Bull it was their sixth front row lock-out in 12 races.

Vettel’s pole position lap was one of the quickest around the Hungaroring since it was re-configured in 2003. His 1’18.773 lap was slightly slower than that set by Rubens Barrichello in his Ferrari in first qualifiyng in 2004, 1’18.436.

Vettel also logged the sixth fastest lap of his career. But there would be no race win for him once again.

That went to Webber, claiming his fourth victory of the year and sixth of his career in his 150th start.

Webber has now won as many races as Tony Brooks, John Surtees, Jochen Rindt, Gilles Villeneuve, Jacques Laffite, Riccardo Patrese and Ralf Schumacher.

This was Red Bull’s 100th Grand Prix start (but their 101st appearance – they did not start at Indianapolis in 2005) and 12th victory.

Two drivers scored the best result of their careers so far: Vitaly Petrov (fifth) and Nico H???lkenberg (sixth). Petrov also had his best qualifying position, seventh.

Pedro de la Rosa scored his first points since the 2006 Brazilian Grand Prix, when he was eighth.

Mercedes failed to score a point in a race for the first time this year. That leaves Red Bull and McLaren the only teams to score in every round so far.

Average position change

How many places a driver has gained in each race on average.

Driver Position change
Karun Chandhok +6.50
Bruno Senna +5.20
Heikki Kovalainen +5.00
Lucas di Grassi +4.83
Sakon Yamamoto +4.50
Kamui Kobayashi +4.17
Jaime Alguersuari +4.00
Jenson Button +3.55
Jarno Trulli +2.71
Timo Glock +2.67
Vitantonio Liuzzi +2.50
Sebastien Buemi +2.38
Pedro de la Rosa +2.20
Lewis Hamilton +1.73
Adrian Sutil +1.20
Robert Kubica +1.10
Rubens Barrichello +0.73
Vitaly Petrov +0.67
Nico Rosberg +0.45
Michael Schumacher +0.27
Fernando Alonso 0.00
Felipe Massa -0.25
Nico H???lkenberg -0.56
Sebastian Vettel -1.70
Mark Webber -1.91

Average grid position

Pos Driver Average starting position
1 Sebastian Vettel 1.8
2 Mark Webber 2.2
3 Lewis Hamilton 5.8
4 Nico Rosberg 6.6
5 Felipe Massa 6.8
6 Robert Kubica 6.9
7 Fernando Alonso 7.0
8 Jenson Button 7.8
9 Michael Schumacher 9.3
10 Rubens Barrichello 10.5
11 Adrian Sutil 11.1
12 Nico H???lkenberg 11.9
13 Vitaly Petrov 13.4
14 Pedro de la Rosa 13.5
15 Sebastien Buemi 13.9
16 Vitantonio Liuzzi 14.5
17 Kamui Kobayashi 14.6
18 Jaime Alguersuari 15.9
19 Heikki Kovalainen 19.0
20 Jarno Trulli 19.3
21 Timo Glock 20.2
22 Lucas di Grassi 22.3
23 Bruno Senna 22.3
24 Sakon Yamamoto 23.3
25 Karun Chandhok 23.5

Time out-qualified team mate

Apart from Sakon Yamamoto, every driver has now qualified in front of a team mate at least once this year:

Pos Driver Times out-qualified team mate
1 Robert Kubica 11
1 Timo Glock 11
3 Sebastien Buemi 10
3 Adrian Sutil 10
3 Nico Rosberg 10
7 Rubens Barrichello 8
6 Fernando Alonso 9
7 Lewis Hamilton 8
7 Bruno Senna 8
10 Pedro de la Rosa 7
12 Jarno Trulli 6
10 Sebastian Vettel 7
14 Mark Webber 5
12 Heikki Kovalainen 6
14 Kamui Kobayashi 5
16 Karun Chandhok 4
16 Jenson Button 4
18 Felipe Massa 3
18 Nico H???lkenberg 3
20 Michael Schumacher 2
20 Vitantonio Liuzzi 2
20 Jaime Alguersuari 2
23 Lucas di Grassi 1
23 Vitaly Petrov 1
25 Sakon Yamamoto 0

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72 comments on “Red Bull mark 100th F1 start with win (Hungarian Grand Prix facts and stats)”

  1. The average position change is a bit misleading, if you regularly start at the back you gain places due to retirements. But if you regularly start at the front you can only go backwards.

    The three names that stand out from those stats are Kamui Kobayashi, Jaime Alguersuari & Jenson Button. But this indicates more that their qualifying positions are not reflective of their actual race pace.

    1. This indicates more that their qualifying positions are not reflective of their actual race pace.

      I agree – which is why the figures aren’t misleading, you just have to look at them properly.

      1. Sorry Keith, yes it depends if you understand them or not. If you take the position that the more places they gain = the better overtaker they are, then this is could be missleading.

        1. Its places gained not the best overtaker. Like you say all it shows is that Jenson, Kamui and Jaime Qualify a lot worse than there race pace suggests they should.

        2. That’s why it said Average Position Change, which is exactly what it is. It doesn’t say Best Overtaker, does it?

  2. This must be the first milestone race where the team did not paint ‘numbers’ on the car. And they were successful.

    1. What do you mean?

      1. This year Ferrari has painted the 800th race on the car, as have Lotus with their 500th race. Both were fairing pretty badly in those milestone races.

        In contrast, Red Bull had their 100th and Sauber their 300th GP, none of them painted any logo’s of it on their cars and both were doing very well.
        I suppose that’s what Tiomkin means

        1. Oh I see.

          1. A Failed attempt at humour. Quite right BasQ.

    2. I think he means that Red Bull and Sauber didn’t have “100th start” on their car the way that Ferrari and Lotus did earlier in the year.

  3. I maybe wrong but was this the second Hungarian GP in a row that saw a wheel dislodge from its car. I can remember Alonso’s wheel flying off last year but I’m not sure if it was in Hungary.

    1. yep, that was hungary alright. it’s also the most disappointed driver to ever score a podium

      1. I don’t know – Massa looked pretty gutted last week!

        1. ah, true true, well perhaps one of the most dissapointed. let’s start a top 10.

        2. or Hamilton at turkey. the most disappointed winner i’ve ever seen.

          1. There I think it was more of a confusion about what had happened, rather than disappointment, but still weired.

        3. A top 10? Surely Raikkonen would make up at least half of them!

      2. Vettel has looked almost just as dissappointed all year when he did not win it and was on the podium. Lewis was not really looking happy in Turkey either. And both Alonso and surely Massa were not looking happy last race.
        More of a record of unhappy podium finishers this year.

        1. Alonso did look happy in Germany though. He’s had two wins this year, both gifted to him and he’s been all happy smiley.

        2. I think everyone needs to learn from Tiago Monteiro! Joy is what we want to see on the podium!

          1. Hear hear! By far the best moment of Indy 05!

          2. Agree. In a press conference he said that a podium is a podium, and that it was the happiest day of his life.

  4. Rubbish Dave
    2nd August 2010, 9:36

    A few De La Rosa stats for you:

    This is only the third time that he has beaten his team mate to the flag in a race where they both finish. The other two times were in 1999 while partnered with Tora Takagi.

    A ten year gap has got to be something unusual.

    1. Regarding large gap records: isn’t Jan Lammers the driver with the most amount of time between race starts? Something like 10 years?

      1. Sounds like one for the rolling trivia quiz…

      2. It was indeed Lammers – which got a mention in a facts & stats article three years ago.

    2. Wow… that is quite incredible. Excellent stat

  5. You think so? I remember a certain Felipe Massa winning a certain race in 2008 and being world champion for 12.5 seconds before having to stand on the podium ;)

    1. he wasn’t miserable on the podium though. he was very proud.

  6. This “fact” is wrong: “That leaves Red Bull the only team to score in every round so far”.

    Actually Mclaren haved scored in every race as well.

    1. You’re right – corrected it, thanks.

  7. I thought Pedro De la Rosa finished 7th.

    1. Forget that, I misread that Pedro stat passage ;)

  8. It was actually his 150th race start!

    1. Webber’s, that is!

  9. I don’t have the time to go and look it up, but if anyone does, I’m wondering… in how many races Schumacher has been punished by the stewards/FIA – either by drive-through, stop/go, black flag, grid drop, points deduction, etc? What percentage of his starts?

    There’s a “top 10 F1 bad boys” in there somewhere :D

    1. I’m not sure he would be in an F1 bad boy list. He was disqualified from the 94 British GP for ignoring a black flag and from the 94 Belgian GP for having excessive plank wear, and he was of course disqualified from the entire 97 World Championship. Other than those I can’t think of many other indiscretions (Monaco 06 obviously).

      That’s not bad for someone who has been in F1 since 1991. The only other current driver with a career of comparable length, Rubens Barrichello, whas been disqualified from two races (99 Spain and 2008 Aus).

      1. Takuma Sato had 3 or 4 DSQ’s, and if you want to be really pedantic you could also count Martin Brundle and Stefan Bellof, who were DSQ’d from the entire 1984 championship.

        1. That’s exactly my point. MSC hasn’t actually be DSQed or penalised as many times as you would think. His record is actually pretty clean for a guy who has been involved in F1 for as long as he has, and who has been involved in as many contraversial incidents as he has. (I never thought I would hear myself say that!)

      2. And how many drive-throughs etc? Including the infamous one at Silverstone that he served “after the finish line”.

        And Monaco this year.

        I’ll be surprised if there aren’t others. Anyway, the point is that he’s being painted as the enfant terrible of F1 – and I’m curious whether it holds true or not. :)

  10. Andrew White
    2nd August 2010, 10:58

    The championship leader has never won a race so far this year: Alonso, Massa, Button, Webber and Hamilton have all been in the lead but have never won while they’ve been there. The second-placed driver in the championship has also never won this year.

    Vettel has never led the championship in his career, coming closest when he was tied on points with Webber, but the Australian had more wins at the time.

    Webber has become the only man to regain the lead of the championship; all the other leaders have had one, unbroken spell at the top.

    1. What about Webber? He won and he’s leading the championship.

      1. Yes he won and is leading the championship but when he won he was 3rd in the championship.

        1. what about when hamilton won in canada? wasn’t he leading after turkey?

          1. Hamilton was leading the championship after Istanbul and won in the next race in Montreal indeed.

            But still, the championship leader usually has a poor race, which is only good for the championship.

          2. nope, Webber was leading after turkey. sorry.

      2. Sorry, I understand what you mean. I Must wake up, need coffee.

      3. I think he means win a race whilst leading the championship. Webber won the race but Hamilton was leading the championship before the race.

        1. Oops.. someone beat me to it

          1. Every time Vettel has a great start something goes wrong. Australia, Bahrain, Hungary.

            Every time Vettel is about to lead the championship something goes wrong. Australia, Bahrain, Turkey, Hungary.

    2. That’s a great stat :)

    3. Alonso won Bahrain and led the championship then.

      1. yeah but he wasn’t leading the championship before he won. if u know what we mean.

        1. Actually he was. He was sharing the lead of the championship with everyone, having scored 0 points, just like everyone else. So technicaly that’s true too.

          1. Pedantry rules OK :D

          2. well, Button was leading going into Bahrain. he was the reigning champion. no. 1. and he scored the most wins in 2009.

  11. only 1 driver finished where he started. (massa) or is this a common occurance?

  12. Jonathan Proctor
    2nd August 2010, 14:09

    This was the first race this season all the drivers from the new teams finished.

  13. In the last three races in Hungaroring, the driver who was 3rd after lap 1 won the race. Kovalainen in 2008, Hamilton in 2009 and Webber in 2010.

    1. Well spotted! I’m sure being on the clean side of the grid has something to do with it – plus a bit of misfortune for the leader never does any harm (Massa, Alonso, and Vettel respectively)!

  14. We don’t have the laps lead stat this week.

  15. Keith, I really would like to understand the “Average position change” box. The stats shows Alonso with an average of 0,00 and Massa with -0,25. Does it means that Massa actually LOST more positions than what he WON, while Alonso have lost and won in equal proportions?
    Thanks a lot.

    1. yes. pretty much

  16. … and a footnote for two fabulous drivers, Jochen R who drove to the age of 28 and Gilles V to the age of 32.

  17. Its the 2nd time in as many years that there was a rouge wheel because of a dodgy pitstop.

  18. Paul Gilbert
    2nd August 2010, 22:30

    This was Barrichello’s 300th GP, although he has only started 296 of them.

  19. Does anyone know what was the last time someone had 3 pole positions in a row yet didn’t win a race?

    1. It used to happen quite frequently:
      In 1993 Alain Prost took pole at the Hungarian, Belgian and Italian Grands Prix, all of which were won by Damon Hill in the other Williams.
      In 1994 Ayrton Senna took pole at the Brazilian, Pacific and San Marino Grands Prix, all of which were won by Michael Schumacher
      In 1995 Damon Hill took pole at the French, British and German Grands Prix, which were won by Schumacher (twice) and Herbert. (He then took a fourth consecutive pole at Hungary and actually won that race).
      In 1999 Mika Hakkinen took pole in Britain, Austria and Germany, races won by Coulthard and Irvine (twice).
      In 2000 Hakkinen did it again, taking pole in Australia, Brazil and San Marino, with Schumacher winning all three races.
      The last time it happened was also the weirdest – Juan Pablo Montoya took *five* poles in a row (Monaco, Canada, Europe, Britain, France) in 2002 without winning any of the races, those going to Coulthard, Barrichello, and Schumacher (three times).

      1. That is a truly awesome bit of research. *dofs his cap*

      2. To add to your research: from 1970 to 1993:

        – 1990 Senna lost 3 poles in a row
        – 1987 Mansell lost 3 poles in a row
        – 1984 Piquet lost 3 poles in a row
        – 1980 Arnoux lost 3 poles in a row
        – 1977 Hunt lost 3 poles in a row
        – 1975 Lauda lost 3 poles in a row
        – 1974 Lauda lost 5 poles in a row, just like Montoya.

        So, since 1970, Vettel is the 11th driver to lose 3 or more poles in a row. In that time it has happened on 14 occasions (it’s happened to Senna, Lauda and Hakkinen twice each).

        Does anyone have any idea for the time from 1950 to 1970? Has anyone ever lost more than 5 poles in a row?

        And, will Vettel keep losing poles? If he loses poles in Spa, Monza and Singapore, that will be 6 in a row. That would be the first time in the last 40 years.

  20. The last three races were won by a driver who started 2nd on the grid.

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