Rate the race: Japan

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Rate the 2010 Japanese Grand Prix out of ten

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  1. Lachie (@lachie) said on 10th October 2010, 8:37

    Typical Vettel win: BOOOOOOORRRRRIIINNNNGGGGGG

    Thank heavens for Kobayashi

    • BasCB said on 10th October 2010, 8:48

      He really did save the race for the viewers. A lot of great passes to make it exiting.

      Nothing really happened after the start excitment got into the SC laps.

      Even Schu did not have a real go at Rosberg after the first one.
      Voted it a 6.

      • Yeah a 6. Wins from pole are often boring, it’s a pity so many drivers dropped out early. Kobi saves the day again.

        • TommyB (@tommyb89) said on 10th October 2010, 9:06

          7… Ok Kobayashi makes it an 8.

          Lot’s of action and Kamui was just fantastic to watch. So pleased for him in his home GP.

          • Kamui the lone racing driver in the middle of a taxi parade. Thank God he’s there.

            I’m getting annoyed at BBC commentators constantly making light-hearted remarks and making fun of Kamui “acrobatics”.

            The guy is a serious and talented racer and and is a hell of a lot more consistant and safe in his overtaking than Vettel is for instance.

          • his_majesty said on 10th October 2010, 15:28

            Yeah, it’d be great to see him in a faster car. He just needs to keep it pointed in the right direction all of the time.

          • US_Peter (@us_peter) said on 10th October 2010, 19:05

            Kobi made it an 8 for me. Otherwise a 7.

    • Scribe (@scribe) said on 10th October 2010, 9:25

      Agree with Lachie, a Vettle victory is a 750bhp sedative.

      But Yeah Kobayashi brings up the score a litte. This was a race with great potential, however four things robbed us of an actually decent race.

      1 Hamiltons gearbox, 3tenths off in quali in a car that goes faster in the race, who knows might have been interesting.

      2 Kubica’s wheel, damn, A Redbull in front was always going to disapear but loosing him from p2 was a blow.

      3 Button, maybe i’m being harsh but this deprived us of a first stint battle between AloHam.

      4 Hamiltons gearbox.

      SO yeah, I’m writing pointless lists to hide my Macca based depression, boring race marks for potential, Vettle once again demonstrating his skill as one of the top 2 drivers in an Adrian Newey car, truly one of the superstars of our sport.

      6

  2. MeredesBeenz said on 10th October 2010, 8:39

    Lewis should start thinking about leaving Mclaren. The team is clearly letting him down. Ok he made a mistake or two, the car, strange strategy and developments have all worked against.
    Mclaren have the best driver on the grid in Lewis Hamilton and still manage to mess things up :(

    • Lachie (@lachie) said on 10th October 2010, 8:47

      Where would he go? Clearly he isn’t going to Ferrari while Alonso’s there and by the time he could get into a Red Bull Adrian Newey will probably be gone. Anyone else is too much of an unknown.

      Being realistic he’s now had three bad results in a row and only one of those could be blamed on the team.

      Button is right, McLaren is a team you want to be with as they’ll always be up there

      • Sammy said on 10th October 2010, 8:49

        Webber might retire after he wins, didnt he say that?

        • US_Peter (@us_peter) said on 10th October 2010, 9:00

          It would really be great to see Hamilton and Vettel at RBR. Like Prost and Senna at McLaren.

          • Well said US_Peter, I would love to see that

          • Scribe (@scribe) said on 10th October 2010, 9:28

            US_Peter, lol, Vettle ain’t no Prost or Senna, Hamilton would wipe the floor with him. Redbull are the new Williams, fastest car, not necessarily the best drivers, or on todays grid, even close.

            Alonso and Hamilton was the greatest comparable driver pairing seen in this generation but we got it at the wrong time.

          • Ben Curly said on 10th October 2010, 9:36

            All this talk about Hamilton leaving McLaren is ridiculous.

            If he didn’t retire last two races he would be the championship leader today. The team provides him with a great car, and he clearly is a talented driver. Last two DNFs and today’s mechanical failure are in essence a consequence of bad luck. None of it is a reason to leave the team.

          • Scribe (@scribe) said on 10th October 2010, 9:48

            Damn straight ben. Obviously he ain’t going nowhere next year but maybe, just maybe if the McLaren isn’t on the pace next year.

            Or the year after that, an when the rules change, you’d have to back Newey again.

          • Paris said on 10th October 2010, 21:11

            What would be really great and UNBEATABLE, would be Seb and Kimi at RBR. That’s THE TRIO to look for.

          • Paris said on 10th October 2010, 21:19

            “If he didn’t retire last two races he would be the championship leader today”.

            Oh, Ben, if your friend Lewis had not taken out Kimi twice 2 years ago, Kimi would have won the Championship and your friend would still be crying…… probably as bad as Felipe.

          • matt90 (@matt90) said on 10th October 2010, 23:13

            @ Paris

            If Kimi had won the 2 races you’re talking about (Canada and Japan I guess?) then he would have had an extra 14 points. He finished over 20 down. And I don’t see the relevence of your point. What was said about Lewis being in the lead of the championship is true. Nobodies saying that he necessarily deserves to be leading, just that he and his car are capable and so he had no reason to leave McLaren.

        • Robbie said on 10th October 2010, 9:28

          Isn’t Hamilton’s contract with McLaren til 2012?

        • Anagh said on 10th October 2010, 9:37

          I hope the Mclaren bad days arent back. While Kimi was in the seat, all they had was mechanical problems. When lewis debuted it kinda became the most stable car on the grid. Now looks like itz gettin back to itz old self again…

      • Ok but you have to look at the season over all. The car isn’t fast enough and with all Mclaren’s resources, the development has been one step forward and steps back.
        The bad strategies where Mclaren would call Lewis in when he is catching leaders, Telling him to slow so his team mate passes him and so many other weird decisions that seem to disproportionally go his way.
        Maybe not next year, but I think Hamilton should start contacting Mercedes, they are his best option for the future (maybe Renault) and it will be Mclaren’s loss.

      • infy (@infy) said on 10th October 2010, 9:07

        Lewis will never leave Mclaren. However I’d like to see him in a FI or Reno to see how good he is when he is not in a race winning car…

        • Anthony said on 10th October 2010, 18:28

          didnt you watch the 2009 season?

          • RaulZ (@raulz) said on 11th October 2010, 12:51

            That’s true, there is where I changed my mind about Hamilton. He’s got something else that only a few others have. I think those are Hamilton, Alonso, Kubica…. and Kobayashi?

      • David BR said on 10th October 2010, 12:26

        Yes but two of those errors were forced from trying to compensate for the relatively uncompetitive car.

        I agree he should think about leaving if McLaren don’t give him the kind of car he *wants* next season. They’re wasting his talent: investing in KERS and then the F-duct when they need to develop a car with the downforce and handling Hamilton needs to make use of his speed and his unmatched skill at passing. I mean, why focus on straight line speed advantage when you’ve got the best overtaker on the grid (and Button who’s not bad either)? Ferrari’s strategy was much smarter this year, good all-round car design that can be adapted over the course of the season.

        • Sammy said on 10th October 2010, 19:07

          I agree totally. Scrap with the straightline speed, because as soon as somebody follows a RBR through the corners, they fall back rapidly, and have to rinse, repeat. McLaren needs to develop their cars SUITED to their drivers’ talents..which they seem not to be able to.

        • matt90 (@matt90) said on 10th October 2010, 23:19

          It’s a good point, although in the case of Monza the car was competitive and Hamilton was just being a bit rash.

    • Richard Brown said on 10th October 2010, 8:55

      Michael Schumacher would have probably left Ferrari after 3/4 of his first season with them under that logic, with the number of drive-shaft, suspension, and particularly engine failures he had in 1996 (anyone remember France, where the engine blew on the formation lap :p)

      Keep your faith. Sport is just an extension of life really, and as we all know, life is frustrating and unfair.

      • glue (@glue) said on 10th October 2010, 9:00

        Hamilton has nothing of Schumi’s patience and composure..remember 2009 when he was prepared to bail after 5 races in the doldrums

        Schumi in 1996 was indeed unbelievably determined..as in 1999 when he returned from his accident

        • Icthyes said on 10th October 2010, 9:21

          Tripe. Hamilton was going to leave over SpyGate – everything else was his father ranting and silly rumours he was going to Brawn. At least attack him for that (it was his fault after all); why do people feel the need to make stuff up?

          • Christian said on 10th October 2010, 10:12

            Despite your pedantic nature, the point is nevertheless still valid. Hamilton has nothing of Schumacher’s patience at Ferrari.

          • David BR said on 10th October 2010, 12:34

            How is it valid? First, Hamilton seems pretty patient to me. Any evidence otherwise? Has he been complaining? No. Second he came into the team when the car was at the top (thanks including to some stray Ferrari data), precisely the opposite of Schumacher starting at a Ferrari team that hadn’t tasted success in years.

        • glue (@glue) said on 10th October 2010, 13:19

          yes, he has been complaining whenever the car was not able to challenge for wins

          • macahan said on 10th October 2010, 19:11

            and publicly berated the team when strategy not been to his liking not knowing what was behind him. He done so at least twice this year each time very unfairly to the team if you don’t have anything nice to say don’t say it or keep it for behind closed doors not bitch over team radio for everyone to hear. At least he not done so the later part of the year and taken the blame on the last few incidents on himself (when it was himself to blame) instead of trying to blame the team. Maybe he finally is maturing a bit.

          • Keith Collantine (@keithcollantine) said on 10th October 2010, 19:15

            It’s always the same. When he holds his tongue he’s criticised for being an unthinking corporate PR automaton. And when he speaks his mind he’s ‘immature’ and ‘bitchy’. He can do no right in the eyes of some.

      • Yeh I guess you’re right, I’m just so frustrated with Mclaren right now. They have so much resources, two fab drivers and look where they are.

        • Icthyes said on 10th October 2010, 9:26

          That they were ever in contention is amazing and a credit to them. They’re still struggling with the new rules and apart from individual races probably haven’t had the best overall car since some point in 2008. Hopefully they’ll get a bit of a jump now for next year and with the double diffusers going things might equalise.

      • so true! and @MeredesBeenz – you sound like some Polish fans suggesting Kubica should leave Renault – I am sure he would like to have problems like Hamilton and drive for MacLaren.

    • Maciek said on 10th October 2010, 9:20

      You’re right – one race with technical glitches is definitely enough reason for any driver to bolt from his team. Sheesh.

      • Anagh said on 10th October 2010, 9:41

        theyve had a solid season so far. n if not for the 2 DNFs which hamilton got on himself, i think he wudve still been leadin the WDC.

        Looks to me like sumone cast a spell on him! 1st a new gearbox fails after 3 races, n so now they put a new one n tat also fails! so if they plan to change it now, another 5 place grid penalty in the next race!

    • Alex Bkk (@alex-bkk) said on 10th October 2010, 9:45

      I can remember a much longer drought for McLaren… They lost Honda engines and used a Ford in ’93 then a Peugeot and finally teamed up with Merc… which as I recall was really an Ilmor with a Mercedes badge. Wasn’t until 1998 and 1999 that Mika won WDC’s then Hamilton in 2008.

      But somehow Macca is always there. A lot of credit can go to Ron Dennis (I choke as I write this, it took me years to respect Dennis and it still isn’t easy) for raising the bar in F1.

      Macca is a top team… win or lose.

  3. very good race for kobayashi.

    • Indeed, after shy qualifications. I was already thinking he just got cracked under pressure, but it’s great he found his rythm for the race.
      I also liked Schumacher-Rosberg fight and all the tension among top 3.
      The rest was either dull procession or series of accidents nothing to do with actual racing.
      Still – this was fun to watch and I gave 8.

  4. be.on.edge said on 10th October 2010, 8:41

    yes kobayashi drove well at home. but did it look like he only had 3 options on?!

  5. Crash in practice 1 + A five spot grid penalty + an ear infection + a numpty new gearbox = 5th place.

    Good job Lewis, really good job. I wish he could have had a go at Alonso though.

    • Sammy said on 10th October 2010, 8:50

      I agree. It was important to get a finish…

    • BasCB said on 10th October 2010, 9:10

      Pretty good job driving all those laps in gears 4-7. I suppose it was the maximum out of the weekend for him.

      But both McLarens are losing out a bit in the WDC.

      • Scribe (@scribe) said on 10th October 2010, 9:33

        yeah, a wee bit BasCB. Especially after Lewis had the pace to qualify third, after missing nearly all of free practive and therfore not being able to complete his testing programme.

        McLaren are doing what Ferrari did after Valencia, they’ve got the pace, as has been proven by recent quali performances and the race pace, but they’ve just gone and lost their delivery.

        Hamilton had the pace to get his season right back on track here, just not the luck. Now he basically needs a DNF from Webber and some poor results from the others.

    • Alex Bkk (@alex-bkk) said on 10th October 2010, 10:09

      Ya, Ham is a racer… I like him for that. He’s gotten a lot tougher mentally since his first season. A very fast learner in my opinion.

      • RaulZ (@raulz) said on 11th October 2010, 13:04

        Well, he’s learning but I think that 4 years are not 4 days to say he learn fast. I think he’ll win again another championship, even crashing.

        And regarding to the main issue now: I’m sure he’ll win in McLaren.

  6. Johnny86 said on 10th October 2010, 8:42

    Sory but alonso is the best driver. But i agree with you about mclaren.they were the 2nd fastest team this weekend as martin acknowledged.yet no podium!.i rate the race 6 for koba..oh and does this mean another penalty for ham?

    • Scribe (@scribe) said on 10th October 2010, 9:37

      Debatable. Only by a smidge. McLaren have waited all year an now they start failing to deliver, an just when they got on the pace.

      GAH!

      • Anagh said on 10th October 2010, 9:43

        more than Alonso a good driver, itz actually ferrari a more composed n refined team with no hasty decisions. which mclaren for sum reason likes to do! :P

        • Scribe (@scribe) said on 10th October 2010, 9:52

          Dunno about that man, Ferrari have come back into it, but I wouldn’t say they;ve been more composed this season at all. They’ve made some fairly “hasty” decsions infact.

          McLaren got a bit off the pace at Germany, an had bad luck Singapore and Italy, nothing to do with the team, as a team they’ve tended to overdeliver.

          Refined is just fanboy talk, they’re both excellent teams.

  7. Kevin said on 10th October 2010, 8:42

    Good race. Shame about the Mclarens, though. I gave it a nine on how good it was anyway

    • BasCB said on 10th October 2010, 9:15

      Wow, i get the feeling you are a bit generous there.

      Apart from the start (most action missed by FOM) and Kobayashi making those great overtakes at the end it was only watching cars drive around an admittedly exciting track at pretty good speed.

  8. 7 from me, too bad so many teammates where one in front of the other, we could have seen more action at the front if it weren’t so.

    • David BR said on 10th October 2010, 12:43

      Or not. Alonso and Vettel at Singapore? None of the drivers who finished top four in Japan looks like risking anything until it’s absolutely necessary. The only way you would have action at the front would be with either Hamilton or Kobayashi up there. Unless it rains in Brazil, this season’s conclusion could be a bit of a let down.

  9. Mel21 said on 10th October 2010, 8:51

    Nice race. Lots of DNF. Two more cars KOV will get the 1st point for the new teams.

  10. glue (@glue) said on 10th October 2010, 8:55

    gave it a 9..great race, exciting throughout, but we’ve been robbed of Kubica’s showing and the exciting bits weren’t really at the front..other than that, brilliant race

    as far as driver performances are concerned, Vettel has been terrifically composed since Italy and this time he’s been supreme..good one from Schumi as well and I’m sorry not to have seen the Williams capitalise on their qualifying pace..everyone will be praising Kobayashi and I’ll let the others to it, especially since I’m not that crazy about him to be honest..Alonso was lucky with Button’s strategy and Hamilton’s gearbox

  11. Icthyes said on 10th October 2010, 8:55

    I can’t rate the race as my alarm let me down and I slept all the way through until the last lap!

    • US_Peter (@us_peter) said on 10th October 2010, 9:05

      Noooooooooo! Kobayashi was the highlight.

    • BasCB said on 10th October 2010, 9:23

      You would have been doing better waking up and falling asleep again after the first 2 laps!

      The best part were about 6 passes by Kobayashi for postion after his pitstop. Apart from that it was not really exciting (although watching them drive through Suzuka is a bit of a thrill).

    • Scribe (@scribe) said on 10th October 2010, 9:39

      eh ye missed not much, Koba made some, already overrated but fairly agressive none the less passes into the hairpin.

      Button robbed us of Ham vs Alo, in the first stint, Hamiltons gearbox robbed us of it in the second, basically a bit of a procession.

      Oh an Kub went out first lap, which did wonders for the action.

      • magnafw07 said on 10th October 2010, 17:04

        Overrated? Really?

        Why? i thought they were fantastic.

        • Cacarella said on 11th October 2010, 0:11

          Overrated because he doesn’t drive for Mclaren and his last name is a few letters short from spelling “Hamilton”

        • David BR said on 11th October 2010, 0:26

          Home turf, I guess, but even so, pretty impressive given Hamilton, for one, was complaining it’s ‘impossible to overtake’ while stuck behind Button – though he did manage to overtake Kobayashi of course! Koba’s pass on Barrichello was great, you could just imagine Rubens ‘huh?! cheeky kid!’

  12. wakenabeb said on 10th October 2010, 8:59

    Very good reliability from the new teams today.

  13. Alex R said on 10th October 2010, 8:59

    I posted a photo on the live chat showing the missing green stripe on Kob.. But I have just searched through to see if the inside stripe is visible.. This is the best I could come up with

    http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/4418/kobtyre2.jpg

    • US_Peter (@us_peter) said on 10th October 2010, 9:01

      Looks like it is, so it really did just rub off in the contact with Alguersuari. That’s nuts!

    • Alex R said on 10th October 2010, 9:02

      This is the image showing the scrubbed outside green stripe

      http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/1051/kobtyre.jpg

      • US_Peter (@us_peter) said on 10th October 2010, 9:04

        Now that I look closer you can kind of see a faint haze where the stripe was.

        • Steph said on 10th October 2010, 9:08

          If it got scrubbed off with contact with Jaime which seems more likely now as noone has said anything then fine. If it was the wrong tyre then unfortunately I can’t argue against a DSQ. The rules say both compounds must be used and all the tyres have to be the same. It’s unfortunate error by Sauber and clumsy but it;s a team sport. I don’t believe it;s like FI because they used both compounds just they got their allocation mixed up with their drivers. I hope it is just a silly thing and the stripe was scrubbed off but if it’s anything more I can’t argue against a punishment.

    • adaptalis said on 10th October 2010, 9:02

      Really hope he doesn’t get DQ. To me, he was driver of the day.

    • Great news, really would have been sad, he was easily the star of the race. Excellent late breaking.

  14. Robbie said on 10th October 2010, 9:00

    Massively disappointed by Hamilton’s gearbox failure AGAIN (another penalty for Korea?) I reckon he could’ve been on the podium where Alonso is now had he kept up those lap times.

    All in all, an okay race. The first half was exciting, with all those crashes and DNFs (DiGrassi’s was truly weird) and Schumacher edging Rosberg until Rosberg’s wheel failure was good but the most exciting racer here was Kobayashi.

    To think… if Glock hadn’t broken his leg last year we might never have seen this Japanese ace. For sheer entertaining racing Kobayashi’s up there with Hamilton.

    • US_Peter (@us_peter) said on 10th October 2010, 9:03

      Yeah, we have to thank Glock for getting the flu last year that had him off his game enough to break his leg and bring us Kobayashi!

      There really were some strange retirements.

    • xtophe said on 11th October 2010, 9:04

      I think Kobayashi is a good example of how the final standings of a GP2 championship can mean very little. He wasn’t a real star, he was getting beaten on a regular basis by his teammate d’Ambrosio (whom also seems to be gelling in well at Virgin), but he’s really come through in F1.
      Sure, he’s made some rookie errors, but that’s not extraordinary.

  15. hawkfist said on 10th October 2010, 9:01

    I might give it a 10 just for how much of a laugh I got from hearing Crofty on the 5Live commentary manage to get a Leeroy Jenkins reference into an F1 race!

    • Robbie said on 10th October 2010, 9:09

      Yeah that was bizarre. Were you listening to their commentary throughout because the BBC coverage was being glitchy. We lost Brundle and Legard’s commentary for a bit and it was repalced with the 5 Live team, just a few seconds before Croft mentioned Leeroy Jenkins.

      Ted Kravitz’s microphone was also echoing loads.

      • hawkfist said on 10th October 2010, 9:26

        Just because of that I think I might listen to the 5Live commentary from now on. I like Brundle, but can’t stand Legard, and I think accidentally hearing that was the final straw for switching audio.

        • Robbie said on 10th October 2010, 9:34

          Who CAN stand Legard? Seriously, I wish the guy would just shut up and let Brundle do all the talking. Or just get rid of Legard and replace him with Croft and Antony Davidson.

          Or Karun Chandhok. His commentaries on 5 live in practice sessions in the past have been excellent.

        • Agreed, unfortunately us foreign BBC viewers do not have the luxury of additional audio feeds. I really like Brundle’s excellent insights, but Legard just keeps ******* me off.

          At least Brundle found a way to cope with him, they really didn’t get along in the first season. :D

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