Rosberg questions why Webber didn’t brake in crash (Mercedes race review)

Michael Schumacher, Jenson Button, Korea, 2010

Michael Schumacher matched his best result of the year, passing Jenson Button on his way to fourth place in Korea.

But it was a case of what might have been for team mate Nico Rosberg who was taken out of the race shortly after overtaking Lewis Hamilton.

Michael Schumacher Nico Rosberg
Qualifying position 9 5
Qualifying time comparison (Q3) 1’36.950 (+0.415) 1’36.535
Race position 4
Laps 55/55 18/55
Pit stops 1 0

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Michael Schumacher

Reprimanded after blocking Rubens Barrichello in qualifying, but avoided a penalty and started ninth.

During the race suspension Mercedes took the opportunity to alter both their cars’ set-ups to make them more suitable for the wet conditions.

Schumacher overtook Robert Kubica on the first racing lap, then began putting Button under pressure. On lap 27 he took fifth place off the McLaren driver at turn three.

He dropped back from Felipe Massa during the final stint and briefly came under pressure from Barrichello before the Williams driver also started to struggle with tyre wear.

Compare Michael Schumacher’s form against his team mate in 2010

Nico Rosberg

Took fifth on the grid, Mercedes’ best qualifying performance since Silverstone, beating Felipe Massa and Jenson Button.

As soon as the race got underway he picked off Hamilton for fourth but his race ended when Mark Webber spun into the wall on lap 19. The Red Bull wreckage skidded back across the track where Rosberg had no chance to avoid it.

He hit out Webber on Twitter afterwards, saying:

Don’t understand why Webber didn’t hit the brakes. Was crazy (evidently) to roll back over the track.
Nico Rosberg

Given that Rosberg had been in front of Hamilton, who later ran in front of eventual winner Fernando Alonso, this was an enormous missed opportunity for Rosberg and Mercedes.

Compare Nico Rosberg’s form against his team mate in 2010

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111 comments on Rosberg questions why Webber didn’t brake in crash (Mercedes race review)

  1. Please watch Youtube and you’ll see that

    1) Alonso already passed Webber when Webber was stuck to the wall.
    2) Webber suddenly slides to the other side of the track, just as Rosberg is coming.
    IMO Rosberg had no chance to avoid a collision.

    It was quite embarrassing for Webber, so he keeps his mouth shut. But maybe his team would like to tell what has happened.

    • chemakal said on 25th October 2010, 19:27

      that’s a theory, RB going to the FIA so they finaly get rid of Webber and so be able to explain to the world why favouring the finger boy

  2. what a barbie, it’s Rosberg himslef who should brake.
    Can’t get how approaching accident in full speed is reasonable? He did control his car, Webber didn’t.
    Webber did minimum right imho. The worst thing would be to brake and stop the car in the middle of the track to be hit by approaching car.

  3. Well, he did take Hamilton out @ Singapore, i wouldn’t be surprised if he wanted to do the same again.

  4. When I saw it live I admit I found it rather odd, but after seeing the reverse angle shot I don’t think there was much Webber could have done. His car only had two wheels on the tarmac and it was rather wet.

    And as much as I feel for Rosberg, shouldn’t he really have asked Webber himself about this instead of moaning on Twitter? Its a bit reminiscent of those silly Twitter arguments that went on after the Toronto Indycar race this year.

    • Keith Collantine (@keithcollantine) said on 25th October 2010, 16:31

      On the contrary as long as there’s some public forum where the drivers are saying what they actually think I’m glad of it.

      • Don’t get me wrong, its great for us to see this stuff, but he wrote “Don’t understand why Webber didn’t hit the brakes”. Well he might have understood had he asked him – I don’t know if he actually did or not, but the wording doesn’t suggest that he did. If he still felt aggrieved afterwards, then rant away.

        I just think doing things via the internet instead of talking to someone face to face, as with those Toronto spats, can be a bit childish in certain situations. But I do understand Rosberg’s frustration, I was gutted for him.

        • Keith Collantine (@keithcollantine) said on 25th October 2010, 16:45

          Still I’d rather have this than “for sure…the guys did a fantastic job…I have no opinion about anything…”

          • I like to hear real opinions too, don’t get me wrong on that, I just generally think that if you have a problem with someone, you should deal with it face to face.

    • BasCB (@bascb) said on 28th October 2010, 19:36

      I don’t suppose Webber would have been available to talk to anyone after that incident and just wanted a quit time to get over it.

      Rosberg must have been gutted as well, so not the best time to see Mark. I suppose they’ll talk it over next time round in Brazil

  5. I like the way Alonso avoided it. Alonso turned right and then left to avoid it. I think Nico would have done something like that.

    • I think it looks like Rosberg did the same. He thought about going off-line into the position where Webber would have bounced away from, saw that Webber was stuck to the wall and steered left instead. Then Webber did come off the wall and started going across the track but by that time it was too late to steer into Webber’s slide and go around the back. It was really bad luck and I don’t think Rosberg could have done anything different.

  6. Any chance you could take out the massive outlier lap (i.e., when it was red-flagged) as it makes it difficult to see any difference between the two team mates performance?

    • Keith Collantine (@keithcollantine) said on 25th October 2010, 16:46

      You can click and drag on the chart to zoom in on the laps you’re interested in. It adjusts the scale automatically so the distorting effect of lap four is removed.

  7. Jimbob said on 25th October 2010, 16:50

    To me it looked like Webber’s car was too damaged for the brakes to work after the impact with the wall. I thought the car looked like it was ‘listing’ to one side when slewing back across the track. Maybe this caused the brakes not to work properly.

  8. Accidental Mick said on 25th October 2010, 16:50

    There is something else to bear in mind. Even on a normal road car the brakes don’t work anywhere near as well when the car is reversing. I forget what the percentage difference in efficiency is but it is quite high.

    I would imagine racing cars exagerate this discrepancy. So. in reverse, only 2 wheels on the ground and a wet track – Webber couldn’t have done anything differently.

  9. Charles Carroll said on 25th October 2010, 17:03

    So, is there any more talk about how Michael should retire or should have never come back after this last performance?

    • PeriSoft said on 25th October 2010, 17:34

      Now it’s, “the other guys all threw it off the road, so it doesn’t count”. :)

    • DaveW said on 25th October 2010, 20:55

      Schumacher got dusted again by Rosberg, all weekend. If it wasn’t for Rosberg’s misfortune it would have been another beat down. We’re still waiting for the coming to grips with the car we were promised by Brawn after they redesigned the car to suit Schumacher after Catalunya.

      • Charles Carroll said on 26th October 2010, 3:48

        If ifs and buts were candy and nuts, we’d all have a Merry Christmas. When Rosberg wins seven championships, I’ll say he’s better. Until then, I don’t care if Michael is towed along in a wagon by Ross Brawn, he is still the better driver.

      • Aussie Fan said on 26th October 2010, 7:33

        Lol, errrrrm ok.

  10. I don’t blame Webber… Even if he braked the car would slide back to the track… On 3 wheels it’s hard to break (has you can se on video)…

    http://www.f1-info.cz/?page=showitem&path=SBOPLjQmJSBOPLjQmMHNlHNjHUM&item=HaPHUFOVgQnjOVoRkJOVnOiDPRnIKOOoJSHUOoMPSROVnQnkOoPRRNOVnPSPQUdSSaOiWQDT&sizex=HgeHdC&sizey=HaTHQX

  11. Josef said on 25th October 2010, 18:22

    a penalty for webber for letting the car roll accross the track, that’s the most ridiculous thing i have heard all day, the guy had an accident and some people feel that he should receive a penalty for ending up back on the track just after his accident? it’s called an accident, accidents usually involve some loss of control, so get over it, it was an accident…i seriously doubt he did it on purpose…

  12. Adrian said on 25th October 2010, 18:57

    Watching that onboard it almost looks as though the front wheel that’s still on the ground is locked up after the initial impact…it’s hard to tell though because of the spray etc…

  13. chemakal said on 25th October 2010, 19:52

    1. Oh, I now get all the Hamilton fanatics that say Webber was trying to take him out, and not Alonso, at that point 2nd in the WDC and right behind him in the race. Webber was not informed that Rosberg overtook Ham, therefore he missed on Ham and hit poor Nico. So it works out that it was a team error… silly

    2. Even if Webber’s action was intentionally, he’ll never get a penalty. Imagine the media roar against Ferrari: penalty with 2 races to go + Hockenheim = media tsunami… ufuf

  14. wasiF1 (@wasif1) said on 26th October 2010, 2:23

    Great race for Schumacher his best of the season. Feel bad for Nico a potential podium is lost on a race where they were looking very strong.Hope they are learning a lot from this season so that they can come back & fight for the WC in 2011.

  15. My2cents said on 26th October 2010, 2:48

    Let’s see, in absolutely horrid conditions Webber loses control, spins into the wall and two seconds later is backwards across the track. And some folks think he checked for traffic, figured out who was behind him, deliberately didn’t brake and then steered to so as to take Rosberg out in the same horrid conditions that caused his spin. All this from crap video that you’re lucky to tell what make of car it was? Slow-motion isn’t real-time, either. Get serious. Webber might have been stunned, whatever, but I distinctly recall him removing his gloves, cleaning his fingernails, eating a sandwich, talking to his Mom on his cell and putting his gloves back on before Rosberg collected him.

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