Rate the race: Brazilian Grand Prix

Brazilian Grand PrixPosted on | Author Keith Collantine

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  1. 5/10.

    Despite it being quite tense, RBR winning the championship and the driver’s championship bunching up even more, that was a fairly processional race that went down to strategy instead of racing.

    Disappointing race for Brazil.

    1. gotta agree with this. Safety car completely ruined the race for half the field too!

      1. Yup, agreed. Quite a bit of a letdown after qualifying yesterday. The most exciting part of the race was trying to guess whether RBR were going to swap Vettel and Webber or not.

        1. I think ironically Hulkenberg made the race far less exciting as he spread the front of the field out so much (well, between the championship contenders). Tis annoying as I thought he was going to make the race interesting! Some great defensive driving though.

          1. Yeah, I was happy he got the pole but because of his lack of speed compared to the front runners (Ferrari, McLaren and RBR) the two RBRs got away and Hulk held everyone up for age.

            And then weirdly the safety car also made it more boring because instead of having battles, we had front runners being held up by backmarkers for a good portion of the race.

          2. Yeah, I think you’re right. Here we were all excited about HĂĽlkenberg being up front to mix things up amongst the top drivers, and instead he ruined a bunch of drivers’ races and led a HĂĽlkenberg for the entire stint after the pit stops. Oh well, I’ll still never forget that qualifying performance.

        2. The RBR want driver’s championship for Vettel, but the only way to achieve it is with Alonso 5th or worse in Abu Dhabi – which seems unlikely. However Webber win with Alonso 3rd would do the job.

          Giving today’s win to Mark would definitely be a safer bet. In my opinion what they did was pretty stupid…

          1. I honestly dont understand why they didnt do that….In my opinion they basically gifted the championship to Alonso.

          2. Guilherme (@the_philosopher)
            7th November 2010, 18:15

            I always think it is hillarious how people bashed Ferrari for sacrificing Massa’s chances when he was still in contention for the title (although it was highly unlikely that he would keep up).

            Now, with Vettel still in contention for the title and faster than Webber since Italy, what people want Red Bull to do? Sacrifice Vettel’s chances!

            It would surely be easier for Red Bull to swap their drivers around, but isn’t it the same kind of disgusting act we witnessed at Hockenheim?

            Next race, if Vettel is leading Webber and Alonso, rest asured that they will swap positions. As much as they like Vettel, they’d have to be really stupid to put the WDC in the garbage bin.

            To summarize:

            1) Red Bull has been the most perfect example of sportmanship F1 has seen in decades;
            2) If Webber wants to win the title, then he should at least beat Vettel on the track, and he missed his best opportunity today.

          3. Nope, in any case Webber would need to finish before Alonso in Abu Dhabi. Considering RBR’s speed, I don’t think given the Webber this win would make much sense. As long as both cars finish before Alo next weekend, RBR can still ask to promote Webber.

          4. @Guilherme Teixeira

            Well, Mark missed his opportunity today, because of: “uh-oh, your engine is hot, take it easy… oh wait, Vettel is far ahead now, we were only kidding, your engine is fine”…

            But putting that aside: if you want to compare it to Ferrari, then yes, it would be almost the same. Ferrari did it, and they gained points for Alonso. They can, and probably will win championship because of that. Yes, in a way it is hilarious – in a very sad way.

            Anyway, if Alonso will be far back in Abu Dhabi, they will probably let Vettel win, and if Alonso will be close, they will probably let Webber win. So don’t praise them yet for their “superb sportsmanship” – while forgetting all of their favorism towards Vettel earlier this season.

          5. I think it’s the same pragmatism vs. principles argument we’ve been having since Hockenheim.

            Red Bull can stick to their principles if they like, but as Ferrari have broken the rules and gotten away with it (puny fine notwithstanding) it may well cost them the championship.

            Consequently, the pragmatic thing to do would be to use the same tactics as Ferrari.

            This is the argument I’ve been making since the WMSC decision. I’ve not done the maths yet but Webber would surely be some way ahead in the drivers’ championship had Red Bull chosen him as their number one driver at that point.

            So I understand where people are coming from when they sense a certain naivety in Red Bull’s approach.

          6. I suspect a lot of these comments are influenced by the idea that if the situation was reversed, Webber would have been ordered to let Vettel past.

      2. Yea it was a real shame as it could have made it interesting again. But it being impossible to pass the whole busloads of cars splitting the front runners and spacing them back out, just like getting past the Hulk had spaced them out in the first 15 laps.

        Still to me it was quite exiting watching everyone get past Hulkenberg as well as Webber hunting down Vettel through the traffic. A real shame about Senna holding him up for that much though.
        And a moment of exitement with the McLaren and Rosberg pitstops, before we realised the backmarkers would bar any real on track fights in the top 5.

        I gave it a 7/10 for the weekend with that amazing pole yesterday, some nice overtaking moves all through the race, a bit of exitement with the top cars hunting themselves down and still having 4 runners in the WDC fight, altough it is now a long shot for Hamilton.

      3. absolutely, they have to go back to letting cars un-lap themseleves, putting that many back markers in the mix ruined what I am sure would have been a thrilling race for the line.

    2. gave the same note because there was too many procession despite trains – no one tried really hard to overtake. Boring. Plus SC added to general mess

    3. i agree really disapointing just like the belgium gp

      1. I gave it a 6. Not bad, but certainly not what we were all looking forward to. The one good thing to come out of it is the fact we will get a showdown in Abu Dhabi.

        i agree really disapointing just like the belgium gp

        Belgium? Disappointing?! Belgium was one of the best races of the year!

        1. I was also disappointed with Belgium!

          1. Why? Belgium was awesome this was terrible. Maybe this is all fan bias.

  2. After the first lap the Red Bulls getting 1 and 2 set the stage for a race that was at times exciting behind them, but had a lull after the pitstops and until that too late SC, and then the amount of cars between the front runners made sure none could get close enough to do anything for real. Alonso got close, but not quite there. It was enjoyable, but ultimately a bit dull at the front for too much of the race.

  3. Safety car rules ruined the race.

      1. The backmarkers were weaved among the top five, instantly spreading them out at the restart and denying a chance to see a proper fight.

        Whatever happened to the rule that allowed backmarkers to unlap themselves?

        1. It was rather dull in the 20 laps before that SC, those backmarkers had their race ruined and then functioned as a damper on any possible fight at the front, true, but it was already not a great race by that point, the SC merely didn’t deliver on any promise it might have held for the finish of the race to still give some real fights.

        2. Dan, The safety car can let cars past if they are directly behind, they can’t let a car past if it isn’t behind them. It’s not the fault of the safety car that back markers were in the middle of the pack.

          tit.

          1. A couple of years ago there used to be a rule that allowed all back markers to unlap themselves under a safety car. Martin Brundle was just saying that the rule was scrapped because it dragged out the safety car period by an extra couple of laps that could have been spent under racing conditions, which is a shame.

          2. It was really a shame they dropped the rule letting the backmarkers past. It would have ment spending another 1-2 laps behind the SC but it would have given all drivers a fighting chance for the last 15 laps to make this a smasher.

          3. @Dan

            They really need to bring that rule back, the extra 2 laps behind the saftey car would have been worth the wait as we would have had a decent fight for the win then with ALO-WEB-VET up front…

          4. The old rule was a really stupid one, I mean, maybe this time it would have been more interesting, But the amount of time it would take for the cars to rejoin the line, coupled to the danger of cars racing around when it’s meant to be a controlled safety car period….

            It sounds good in principle… But I can’t see it working.

        3. The leaders had to navigate past those lapped cars, that’s how they got lapped, why should cars racing the leaders not have to do the same?

          Fairs fair. No?

          Yeah, you could argue it would make for a more exciting show, but then so would phantom full-course yellows for “debris”, but just cos it makes better TV, doesn’t mean it should be applied to a sporting contest.

          The chasers get enough of an advantage closing up behind the SC, lets leave the lapped traffic where it is, I think.

          1. I agree, last thing we need is any artificial tampering with the car order during the safety period.

            It’s a sporting event as you mention not conceived entertainment.

      2. Allowing lapped drivers to get between the front runners? The restart would have been a lot more interesting. Still those behind Vettel were lucky the safety car bunched them up a bit anyhow. More the case that more bad driving from Luizzi meant we missed Webber catching Vettel.

        1. What about making all drivers *not* in the lead lap go to the end of the line?

          1. Try not to think selfishily. The event is for the drivers to contest. We luckily get to watch the fun.

            Artificial tampering with positions so that fans get a better show is for nascar.

          2. @Mark:

            But, what’s the point? During the restart, they are shown the blue flag to let others pass. If they are allowed to contest their position, then what you are saying is fine.

  4. Boring procesn. I took loo breaks.

  5. 7/10

    Was expecting much more from my 2nd favorite track, it was quite a boring race for the most part but the only reason its 7 is because after the safety car watching all the confusion was awesome! Congratz to RB for winning WCC now I just hope Webber delivers in Abu Dhabi and takes the WDC.

  6. Boring procession. I took loo breaks.

  7. Mark Hitchcock
    7th November 2010, 17:47

    Very boring. As soon as the Red Bulls got out front it was pretty much over.
    5/10

    1. But what about Massa, Liuzzi, Hulkenberg? Wasnt so boring! And CC finished…

    2. You’ve just described the entire season. LOL

  8. Well done Red Bull. Got a little excited when the SC came out, but it turned out changing nothing in the end.

    One further point – Massa was absolutely terrible in that race. Surely he’s gone for 2011?

    1. He wasn’t terrible at all – he was heavily compromised by the wheel nut problem and Buemi nerfing him off dropped him to the back again.

      1. Try comparing his weekend to Alonso, and perhaps you’ll see my point, wheel nut or otherwise.

        1. I agree, but that’s been the case all season. He was unlucky this race, yet two weeks ago he had a strong drive. He’s been inconsistant but then Massa always has.

  9. Perfect example why new SC rules are a farce.

    What i don’t understand is why in times of refueling, when sometimes you were just forced to pit for gas, you could be punished doing that with a drive-through. On the contrary, nowadays when nothing on god’s green earth forces you to pit, you can do that freely with SC deployed. Better even, you can pit twice and not loose a single position.

    1. Rosberg was 3 pitting – Kubica only 1. How it is possible?

      1. When Rosberg for the second and third time, the safety cars was deployed. Kubica was already lapped by that time while Rosberg wasn’t, which meant hew was in front of the SC, not behind it. He could pit without fear of losing position.

        1. Well he lost track position as Martin explained he just didn’t lose placing position.

          He was behind Kubica at the restart, was he not?

      2. Because Kubica had been lapped. Don’t call me German, or anything, for pointing out what happened.

        1. No metter what happens on track, I like you. I have nothing against you. We just say our opinions. I realy dont care where you come from. We don’t have to agree on everything – I want to say, I respect way you’re thinking, and apologise for my previous behaviour, if it was unproper.

          1. Ok, no problem. I probably took the whole thing a bit too far anyway. I respect your views as well. :)

  10. 7/10

    A great first part (the strongest moments being “Hulk vs. the fasters than him” plus ALO overtaking HAM), then the show faded away. A bit of excitement after SC deployment, but under the Interlagos standards.

  11. I give it an 8 for the thrill of Hulkenberg’s pole yesterday (ok so it’s not the race :P) and also for the race itself. Quite a bit of overtaking lower down the field and some tension as well.

    Really annoyed we’re no clearer about who the champion might be though!

    1. Also just before Hamilton made the error that let Alonso through, Alonso jerked to the inside and feinted a move. Did that distract Lewis? I often hear commentators talking about trying to force an error by distracting the guy ahead like that but I’ve never seen it actually work!

      1. I think the car just wasnt up to, he seemed to be really struggling with the front of the car, The merc just looked way too stiff.
        Lewis was NOT happy at the end of the race..

        1. He never would be happy if Fernando blew by him. :)

  12. how can rosberg pit 2 times under SC and still be in front of schumacher???

    1. @ derek..Michael Schumacher graciously ALLOWED Rosberg to pass him as the latter had fresh tyres and would have been in a stronger position to fight Jenson who was in front of them.(see Total F1 for full story.)

  13. Red Bull won the Constructor’s championship but their failure to manage their drivers as a team means they are likely to hand Alonso the Driver’s Championship. Ironic considering he lost a Driver’s Championship at McLaren(to Mika) when McLaren did virtually the same thing by supporting Hamilton that Red Bull are doing with Vettel.

    1. guess you meant Kimi not Mikka

  14. Jarred Walmsley
    7th November 2010, 17:55

    Really this was a boring race,not much excitment, no incidents for the title contenders so nothing to get excited about plus Hulkenburg didn’t score well. so a 5 for me

  15. One of the worst races i’ve ever seen. And let me explain why.

    Firs of all, the transmission over here, in latin america, was rubbish. It’s always bad but today it was even worse. The commentators where at the circuit, yet they mistakenly named the drivers and got confused with every little piece of team radio transmission.

    Then, the official transmission. They spent so much time getting the backmackers even when Fernando was closing in Webber. After the safety car, they showed Massa battling with the lapped guys, even if he also was lapped.

    Then, the backmackers themselves. We have already discussed this: should backmackers move aside while they are being lapped?. Some said yes, some said no. But i guess none of us think some shoudl make way and some don’t. If they are going to move aside, then ALL do it!. Mark lost a lot of time with Senna, with di Grassi. Lewis lost too after the restart, with Buemi. But Vettel barely lost time, same with Alonso. Come on, the new teams were 3 secs slower than the rest. And sometimes more.

    It was a processional race, but even worse than Barcelona.

    And a view about Buemi. How come he’s still racing?. It’s already 2 years and he’s still making so many mistakes!. He was bad at Korea, he was bad today, crashing Massa and Koba i think too.

    1. Sorry to hear about that bad job by the TV crew. Even Brundle and Legard were late on the pickup of some things, like Rosberg getting past Kobayashi.

      Under Normal circumstances I would be glad for the blue flag rules to be eased, but after this safetycar situation it would have certainly been better to get the unlapped cars to line up in front to have a chance of a fight between them for the last laps.

      1. I completely disagree with the notion that the lapped cars should get out the way, in fact, I’m going to go the other way, and say this was a perfect example of why blue flags should be dropped. Imagine if Vettel actually had to fight to get through the lapped cars.

        So what if it could have been more exciting, This isn’t NASCAR, it’s not Wrestling, it’s Formula One, a sport, and just because it could have been more interesting doesn’t make it right to tell the lapped guys to go to the back.

        Also, What gives the leaders the right to ruin the races of the drivers who got lapped? They where still fighting for position and championship points. If the notion is that lapped cars are just in the way, and that their races aren’t important. You might as well say lapped cars should be forced to retire.

        This would have been far more exciting had blue flags not been used.

        1. Why should a driver that is beating another driver by 4.3km (1 lap), 8.6km (2 laps), 12.9km (3 laps), 38.7km (9 laps, eg di Grassi was 9 laps behind Vettel), etc be forced to race against that driver. All removing the blue flag would do is punish drivers for being too fast. What sort of real sport punishes competitors for being too good. The way I see it is if you cannot stay on the lead lap maybe you should be out of the race.

          What givers the lapped traffic the right to ruin the races of the drivers who are the best competitors who are leading the race?

          1. … Well, all the leaders would have to get past the same cars, So I think ruin is the wrong word… Webber got baulked several times by lapped cars, and that’s with the blue flags.

            I just didn’t like how some of the lapped drivers got a pummelling in the comments, when if they had of let the leader though earlier, they may have lost a place against someone they are racing against as well. Which doesn’t strike me as fair play.

            The way I see it is if you cannot stay on the lead lap maybe you should be out of the race.

            … What?….. Well, why not just ban anyone who isn’t in a Ferrari, Mclaren or Red Bull and be done with it…

    2. Leave comments like this to Keith thanks.

  16. As a ferrari fan im shocked that redbull let the result end this way. My dislike for rbr is growing, i used to like both their drivers. The look on marks face says it all. I felt sad for him. If i was him, id take out my teammate next round, ensuring rbr dont get the driver wdc at all.

    1. “As a ferrari fan im shocked that redbull let the result end this way”

      What’s one got to do with the other?

      1. I suppose as a Ferrari fan one is very much aware that team orders can be issued, and Red Bull making it impossible for themselves to support Webber for the WDC exclusively is incomprehensible.

        1. May its because Seb still has a (slim) chance? Or because they would favor Seb but not Mark?

          1. I think it is a bit of both, although I sensed from Horner, that it is a bit of a thankyou to Seb up front as they expect he will have to move over for Mark next race to get the WDC.

        2. and Red Bull making it impossible for themselves to support Webber for the WDC exclusively is incomprehensible.

          Is not incomprehensible, it is just RBR is making everything to support Vettel for the WDC.

      2. meaning vettel should’ve let webber past. im a mclaren fan and im shocked RBR didnt do that either. ok, not shocked, but still, they are risking things big time now.

  17. Guilherme (@the_philosopher)
    7th November 2010, 18:05

    9/10.

    It is by far and away the track with most overtaking opportunities in dry conditions, there were some good battles going on through the field and the safety car in the end created some chaos in the midfield, which was nice too see (even though I think some drivers were acting like idiiots when they were being lapped – most notably Sutil and Buemi).

    I didn’t give it a 10 because it lacked a bit of drama =P

    Now, on the result: I was really hoping Hamilton would finish ahead of Alonso. Now I’ll have to support Webber’s title bid now, but Jesus, his lack of speed since Italy (compared to Vettel) has been just depressing.

    Ah, an congratulations to Red Bull on a well deserved Constructors Title!

    1. 9/10 Are you serious? This was one of the most boring processional, dull, drab and awful races we’ve had this season.

      I rated , Canada 10 and Turkey 10 9’s the only races i’ve ever raterd that high. This was barley a 4.

      Still your entitled to your opinion, even if you are trolling.

      1. Guilherme (@the_philosopher)
        7th November 2010, 18:38

        Trolling? How come what I said can be considered trolling? As I am entitled to my opinion, so you are entitled to yours, but I think you were a bit unfair with me there.

        I don’t like to compare races to come up with a conclusion on how to rate. Out of my expectations for a dry race, I think this race matched most of them.

        In my opinion, processional races were Bahrain, Catalunya, Valencia, Hungaroring… and I didn’t race those races lower than 4!

        I think we got a little bit used to the thrilling races we had here in the last 4 years. Probably people had too much expectations with this race (or didn’t like the result…)

      2. Geez Scribe, that’s totally uncalled for. Calling someone a troll just because you disagree with them is pretty close to, well, you know, like trolling.

        Anyhoo, are you really rating the race – or just the result?

        1. No seriously if Ferrari had 1-2 in Canada i’d have 9ined it. If it had been Massa and Alonso following the Redbulls in Turkey again it would have been just as exciting. The reason McLaren victories have have been so good this year is because there car isn’t far enough to win straight victories, hence when the do win it’s tended to be a chaotic action packed ride.

          This was just a plain boring race in which no on track action of significance really went on. After the first lap we Knew what the top 4’s result was going to be. An when Hamilton appeared in front of Button after his stop we knew what all the championship contenders where in for. How boring is that?

          Sorry for acusations of trolling, uncalled for but I confess myself so baffled by that rating of this race I thought you may have been pulling our collective legs.

      3. I think you are letting your emotions run a bit too free from the disappointment of McLaren just not being fast enough today here.

        A 9/10 seems far to much to me as well, as the race was not all that exiting, but a 6 or a 7 would not be too much as the race had quite a lot of interesting moments and overtakes on track.

        1. Don’t worry about me BasCB, I’m more than capable of being neutral in a title battle and keeping my emotions in check. I’ve managed it enough times in McLarens recent history.

          From the neutrals perspective, whose never seen an F1 race before, that was boring. I’d never show that race to someone I was trying to get into F1. Canada, of course I would.

  18. I thought that was a pretty good one – the only disappointment for me was not seeing Webber’s efforts behind Vettel come to fruition, though I’m trying to not read anything fishy into his engine ‘apparently’ overheating for a while. Anyhoo, my beef with the safety car rules is that, although I feel that backmarkers should not be blue flagged in race conditions, I do think that lapped cars should be forced to move to the back behind the safety car. Who knows what finish we may have had if the leaders had been bunched up so close to the end? Still, an 8 for me; it may not have been the most exciting race, but I thought we saw some really solid driving from the top drivers and that in itself was a good watch.

    1. I rated it a 7/10 but i pretty much agree with your comments on what made it good and the backmarkers behind the SC.

  19. Not an enjoyable race. There was hope during the SC restart, but unfortunately the back-markers between the contenders ruined that a lill bit.

  20. The race was over as soon as the Red Bulls passed Hulkenberg’s Williams and never looked back. The big winner today was without a doubt Fernando Alonso. If Mark Webber had won today he would only have a one point lead in the championship going into Abu Dhabi. Now he has breathing space.
    For McLaren it is practically over. Button is out and Hamilton needs so many things to go his way it makes finishing fifth in Brazil two years ago look almost easy by comparison.
    The race offered me no surprises really, but for Hulkenberg’s pole I would have said the grands prix was quite ordinary. I gave it 7/10.

    1. In that case, the real winners from RBR not having Seb move over were the fans loathing team orders.

  21. Big letdown, gave it a 6.

  22. Fernando Alonso overtook Lewis Hamilton on track. Even if the race was rather boring, that was worth a 9.

    1. It really must be a real big deal for Alonso fans! The fact that Hamilton’s car had zero adherence and is way worse than the Ferrari might have something to do with it, but hey, enjoy the little victories. Going to be a bit ironic (okay: immensely enjoyable) if Hamilton takes 3rd at Abu Dhabi ahead of Alonso and ensures a Red Bull driver victory.

      1. Zero adherence my ***. Send the guy to driver school.

        1. As I remember, Hamilton learnt from the best in 2007 – Alonso. And promptly beat him. Your turn!

          1. Clockwork Kitty
            7th November 2010, 18:31

            With massive help from McL who were “basically racing against him” and giving him a Minardi with McL livery after Hungary. And even so he didn’t get one single point ahead.

          2. So that’s why Alonso was asking McLaren to hold Hamilton back as early as Canada? Not to mention Monaco. If you remember FIA were even called in to check Alonso was getting the same car and treatment. Yes, in the final races McLaren (Dennis) were racing him – after he tried to blackmail his own team over data theft he himself was involved in. But you know all that.

          3. Damn, I ate the troll bait.

          4. With massive help from McL who were “basically racing against him” and giving him a Minardi with McL livery after Hungary. And even so he didn’t get one single point ahead.

            Sorry, but that’s a ridiculous exagguration. Alonso didn’t get much emotional support from the team, but was given sufficient and equal equipment despite being petulant in Hungary.

          5. “Yes, in the final races McLaren (Dennis) were racing him – after he tried to blackmail his own team over data theft he himself was involved in. But you know all that.”

            If McL were cheating, spying and lying the fault was theirs, they can’t blame Alonso.

          6. Anger is bad for health. Blood pressure goes up, take it easy.

      2. Unless it isn’t a strike from clear sky, what happens in field is up to the drivers (we are talking about classic drivers in classy cars). You have to admit Alonso passed Hamilton, and did it the second time in a row. Hulkenberg didn’t comitted the mistake for example, Hamilton did twice.

      3. Maybe have Hamilton get in 2nd right behind Webber in Abu Dhabi would do that job nicely.

    2. Alonso didn’t really pass Hamilton, Lewis was forced into an error for the second time in two races – errors that he really shouldn’t have made.

      1. I dont think it was an error so much as it was Ferrari’s superior traction out of corners, you could clearly see that onboard

        1. No it was an error, Hamilton ran wide on entry, missed the apex and then lost traction over the kerbs, which allowed Alonso to pass. Whether or not he was distracted by Alonso’s feint attack I don’t know.

          1. Hamilton clearly had no grip at the start and complained as much on the radio after a few laps. Alonso has overtaken Ham with skill, guile and sometimes aggression on other occasions – this time it was just car superiority though.

          2. Actually it was an error that enabled Alonso to pass Hamilton.
            I feel, that Hamilton has bin a bit frustrated all weekend to see his title chances slip away from here this weekend and thats why he made some mistakes and kept complaining about the handling.

          3. Or he was simply pushing the car beyond its limits, hence the loss of handling and forced errors. I’m most so much excusing Hamilton as moaning about McLaren making absolutely no ground up on Red Bull and Ferrari in the second half of the season. That seems bad given their resources. Guess it’s all relative though.

          4. Core Lewis supporters usually dismissed Button “whinning” about “undrivable cars”… Apparently when Lewis complain he is worth of more trust.

            Interesting.

      2. Clockwork Kitty
        8th November 2010, 0:25

        Alonso didn’t really pass Hamilton,

        According to what definition of passing would that be?

        1. Probably this one: “It’s only an overtake when Hamilton does the overtaking. If he gets overtaken it’s only because of an error/because of the car.”

  23. Just trying to get the point across that even though i cheer against rbr i feel bad for mark.

    1. Yep, agreed. RBR certainly deserved the WCC, but Seb and Mark hardly seem to deserve the WDC. They should have been first and second mathematically several races ago.

      1. Guilherme (@the_philosopher)
        7th November 2010, 18:21

        but Seb and Mark hardly seem to deserve the WDC. They should have been first and second mathematically several races ago.

        Because they are actually racing each other. They don’t have a rear gunner, and, in my opinion, it will only value their titles even more if they win.

        1. and Red Bull making it impossible for themselves to support Webber for the WDC exclusively is incomprehensible.

          In the case of Webber absolutely. If he wins, he will deserve the title much more than any other driver keeping in mind the support he has had from RBR.

          1. ooopps! wrong quote.

            the right one for my comment was:

            t will only value their titles even more if they win.

        2. Good job on them I think.
          Sure I would have liked Webber to have a chance at Vettel after the SC as well as fancying a Hamilton/Alonso fight, but Vettel was in front and drove very well today (again, a win from the front) and it just did not happen.

        3. NO no no, because they’re racing each other they lost 25 points in Turkey.

          The rest reasons are their performance in race, their reliability, driver’s mistakes, team mistakes, having commitments with Marko or with who knows who…

  24. 8/10

    Lacked a bit of action in the middle but it was great to see things turning out alright for Alonso. Besides it was pretty insane how Rosberg pitted three times and still ended up ahead of Schumi and Kubica.

    1. becasue Kubica went to pits onthe same lap as Hulk – so he had no chance to make quicker laps to pass him. While everbody else did by pitting earlier or later than Hulk. It annoyed me really.

      1. He should have done like Hamilton did an run another few laps to get past the Hulk.

        1. exactly – Hulk was just in fornt of him,, he saw he is going to pit – so he should delay his own pit by a few quick laps. Pity it didn’t happen. And then he seemed unable to overtake him all the race. A bit strange.

  25. Andrewf1 got it :)`

  26. So how about HULK? I think he didn’t impress so much, yesterday it was all about more grip, really.

    1. I think he did the most that could have really been expected of him – he wasn’t fast enough to get away with pitting early, so all the people behind him who pitted inevitably got past. I thought his defending of Alonso and Hamilton was brilliant.

      1. For me he rather defended than was racing, so like he didn’t care about pace but about to hold current position. In effect he was annoyingly slow – everybody who pitted before or after him gained significantly – BUT, ROS, MSC, – while Kubica was the only one who pitted on the same lap as HUL and that’s why was stuck behing him all the race.

  27. I think if you go back and review the race, you’d find there were plenty of neat passes, especially in the first half. However none were really consequential in terms of the championship scenario, which proves that there are far more important variables than raw overtaking that go into producing an entertaining Sunday.

  28. Awfull, 4/10. From my favourite track, with a interesting pole sitter. Redbulls did there usuall domination thing, Vettle was as boring to watch as ever, Mark didn’t get a chance to challenge him. Saftey car which should have added so much excitement completley failed too. Redbull handed the drivers title to Alonso in an act of brazen stupidity you wouldn’t belive if it hadn’t just happened.

    Still sets things up for a tense title decider in Abu Dhabi I guess, still how disapointing.

    On the saftey car, maybe unlapping is a bit extreme but maybe cars not on the lead lap could pull out on the straight or something, let the lead cars through then form up behind? Couldn’t be that hard.

    1. I tend to agree with your safety car suggestion. Surely the rule could be changed to something like, “passing under yellow flag conditions is prohibited unless the car in front is lapped traffic”. Or maybe the lapped traffic rule should be changed to be a bit like professional cycling, if you get lapped that’s the end of your race. I think it is quiet ridiculous that lapped traffic can affect the outcome of races. It also removes one avenue by which drivers can cheat.

  29. Boring. Very Boring. Even a late SC period couldnt spice it up.

    The snooze button was hit when when Hamilton couldn’t hold Alonso back because that was his single real aim for the race; it would have tighted up the whole title race more; and it would have installed a bona fide battle for the race. It’s ironic that this is the corner where he ran wide trying to pass Alonso in 07 and lost the plot.

    1. I think the snooze factor was when Vettel and a bit later Webber got past the Hulk before he got good grip in his tyres and got into a groove to defend.

  30. not much excitement. wait for Abu Dhabi

  31. I have mentioned this before in previous races, but it is absolutely amazing that yet again the top 5 drivers have finished in the top 5 positions again. Amazing season, it must be some sort of record for consistency among the top drivers.

    1. And once again the driver leading the championship did not win the race.

  32. 5/10

    Once Red Bull hit the front it was fairly boring. Some good midfield battles but nothing special.

    Hopefully Abu Dhabi can provide us with a better race and that Mark Webber can do the business there.

    Alonso will be hard to beat though. It would take a brave man to bet against him.

  33. Was expecting alot from Kobayashi

  34. I gave it a 7. It was a solid race with some good action.
    It is amazing that so many gave a 1 rating after German Grand Prix for the team order yet today it seams that a lot of people lowered the score because of lack of a team order from RBR.
    I have a feeling that if Webber finished first today and HAM managed to get past ALO after the SC the race would be voted as the best grand prix of the year with average score of 9.5 :)

    1. Agree, funny thing that is with TO, isn’t it. I actually think it is great to see RBR not interferring, although it will probably mean Seb “being the team player” next time round.

  35. Congrats RBR and vettel.

    Something dramatic has to happen to F1. We cannot continue watching such formula bores. With refuelling also gone the Fans has to look up the sky towards rain gods or towards safety cars for any bit of racing.

    After watching Talledaga last weekend in NASCAR, F1 is putting up a pathetic show in comparison from both racing and entertainment perspective.

  36. Kudos for the Hulk for getting pole, but his effect on the race was negative as he let the top runners pop out one by one with big gaps in between, making the race ultimately predictable by about lap 5. Can’t blame him, of course; he was racing his own race (although tactically it damaged his chances long-term – he’d have been better letting them go and having a proper scrap with his speed peers). The SC could have helped matters but the way the back markers were arranged probably had the effect of spreading the top runners out rather than bunching them up. Disappointing race, but you can’t really blame any individual or rule.

  37. MATEUSZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
    7th November 2010, 18:48

    2/10
    the most boring race this year!
    and one unfair thing. Rosberg pits 3 times, Kubica only one. He could pit several times and still go ahead, because Pole was lapped.

    1. Get yourself a taped Bahrain or maybe Barcelona and think again.
      There was genuine tension in large parts of the race, we had quite a bit of battles and passes on track as well.
      A shame about the RBR getting past the Hulk that fast and the backmarkers getting in between an exiting phase after the SC period, but still a pretty decent dry weather race.

      1. I think it comes down to expectations and really I’m not surprised that so many people were disappointed after the qualifying we had. That’s what happens when you work up all kinds of fantastic scenarios in your mind and then boring old reality comes along and ruins everything.

  38. Younger Hamilton
    7th November 2010, 18:58

    6/10 what a stupid and boring race it was i expected more today in Brazil

  39. Younger Hamilton
    7th November 2010, 18:59

    Worst Grand Prix i’ve ever watched

    1. So guess you won’t want to watch your Mums TV anymore then?? Idiot…

  40. Younger Hamilton
    7th November 2010, 19:03

    15 People are Red Bull Fanboys and girls

    1. Umm, you know, there’s that thing about the pot calling the kettle something, something… never mind.

    2. Bit rich from you as one who constantly comes across as a seriously blinkered Lewis fanboy don’t you think?

  41. It really was a “meh” race. Apart from the large amount of overtaking, it was pretty dull. And I feel bad for Hulkenburg, 8th really wasn’t good enough.

  42. 5/10 even the SC couldn’t spice things up, thanks to the ridiculous rescinding of the rule allowing backmarkers to unlap themselves.

  43. 7/10 from me. Good overtaking in the midfield, Massa for instance was fairly fun to watch fighting Buemi and Sutil (or was it liuzzi?). Though there could have been more action at the front. Red Bull just ran away with it and Hulkenberg held back Alsonso so much that he had no chance of catching the bulls and then did the same to Hamilton. Not that he was bad, Hulkenberg impressed me. He didn’t do any mistakes and he did a very good job defending against Alonso and Hamilton. Sadly he finished the race very low down.
    And the SC rules could be better, the back markers between the front runners ruined any chance of an entertaining restart.
    And just last, i don’t get why people mock about RBR not using TO? We all hated it in Hockenheim, why should it be different this time? Also, in Hockenheim we all knew that Alonso were better then Massa, and that the only Alonso would have a chance to get the WDC. Here Vettel were faster then Webber and have been that consistently for a long time now. They both have a shot at the title now. It will just make Abu Dhabi that more exciting.

  44. HounslowBusGarage
    7th November 2010, 20:18

    Somehow this morning the wife realised that this was an important and potentially pivotal race. So I was allowed to watch it in the lounge on the Big TV.
    She even went off to fetch me tea and mince pies at about Lap 20.
    But at the finish, she just looked at me.
    “Is that it?”
    I must have nodded.
    “Was it worth it?”
    Was it worth it; was it worth me wasting two hours of lfe? Was it worth squandering a large wedge of wifely goodwill and attention for? Had it resolved anything? Had it made my heart beat faster at any point? Had it heightened my excitement of the 2010 season?
    I voted 3 out of 10.

    Oh, and I agree with TMax (above) about Talledaega. I don’t normally like NASCAR, but that was a real race!

    1. I rated it much higher, but my sympathies for your misspent resources nonetheless – perhaps if you do something nice or make convincingly sad puppy eyes you’ll be treated to the same tender loving care next Sunday? As the French would say: Courage!

  45. I think Hamilton has one option: 2 DNF and one Black flag. It is posible in the last race. (1 DNF in turn 1, and 1 DNF three? laps to go and a Black Flag in the last lap). I am an ALO supporter, but it would be a 10/10 rate race.

  46. that race was super boring.

  47. 5/10
    As soon as GalvĂŁo doing the commentary here in Brazil opened with a ‘it’s sunny, beautiful track here at Interlagos’ my heart sank. Obvious Red Bull 1-2.

    Fact is, this year has been amazingly good considering the sheer dominance of the Red Bull cars. Sadly even the rivalry between the two RBR drivers seems to have become bureaucratic.

  48. 5/10… Some good bits, just not enough action.

    Plus I just cannot get excited about Red Bull as a racing team at all.

  49. At the moment I voted I notice only 22 people gave the race a 10 but 34 people gave it a 1!

  50. How come when safety car comes in, lapped cars can’t outlap themselves? I was expecting another tight race when VET-WEB-ALO-HAM line themselves up again. It was a processional race & it ruined for the other drivers with the slower cars – no time to chase the guys at front.

  51. 7.

    Great opening lap some aggressive driving by HĂĽlkenberg giving some hard time to the title contender shame that his car wasn’t up for that job.Happy that he at least finished the race in points. Made life difficult for many I am sure after the safety car as all the cars were mixed in the circuit tough to say who is fighting with whom.

    Hoping a good curtain close in Abu Dhabi.

  52. usually a messy race is exciting
    brasil today’s race was messy and boriiiiing.

  53. Jraybay-HamiltonMclarenfan
    8th November 2010, 7:21

    In the end I think everyone expected a really good race after the championship deciders a couple years ago and just in general Brazil has had some great races since 2000. But it was s regular race straight forward and I think people were let down, myself included. I think if Hulkenberg wasnt upfront it would be a little better of a race for sure but I enjoyed watching him defend his position he could have moved over for the championship sake but he didnt, well done : D . It was an ok race except Hamilton struggled :( . Abu dhabi is gonna be good : D

  54. Very dull 3/10
    tststs

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