Alonso named best driver of 2010 by team bosses

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F1 team bosses vote Fernando Alonso as the driver of the year.

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F1 bosses vote Alonso the best of 2010 (Autosport)

“Alonso beat Vettel by nine points overall after the votes of all the team principals were added up – moving him up from fourth place overall where he was voted last season.”

Scarbs F1 on Twitter

“I’m hearing the 2013 engine rules are: mandated 1.6l I4 turbo, 88mm bores, direct injection, 100kg\h fuel flow rate.”

I love you boys! (Red Bulletin)

Adrian Newey: “If I had to choose one moment of the last season, perhaps I would pick the moment when I knew the RB6 was a fast car. Wind-tunnel testing is one thing, but you can never be sure. Not even pole position at the first race will guarantee you?ll still be competitive at the last race.”

What if Senna had jumped to IndyCars? (The Times Leader)

“When we look at a possible Senna-IndyCar partnership, it?s not just the question of how would Senna fare against the IndyCar field, but rather if the massive public following and immense level of respect that followed him would have had any major impact on the IndyCar ??civil war?? that ripped the sport apart in 1995.”

2011 FIA Formula One World Championship (FIA)

Lewis Hamilton now listed as number three. Updated list here: 2011 F1 drivers and teams

Comment of the day

Invoke has reservations over Sergio Perez’s arrival at Sauber, after the team dropped the ‘known quantity’ Nick Heidfeld:

It?s interesting that they have have switched back to an unknown quantity again so quickly. I?m sure the sponsorship potential was very enticing, and actually I think Perez could do well in F1 given some time, I just hope it doesn?t hurt their chances next year.

On a more positive note, this move should hopefully ensure stability for the team in the long term. They provided some exciting on-track action this year, I wish them well for 2011 and beyond.
Invoke

From the forum

Amazing pictures from a race at the Oscar Alfredo Galvez race track from Fer No. 65. See here: They copy us at Monza…

Read Fer’s excellent guest article on the Argentinean Touring Car Championship from earlier this year: Why you should watch?? TC2000

Happy birthday!

We’ve got a double birthday today – all the best to RIISE and Speed Damon!

On this day in F1

One year ago today the FIA confirmed Sauber would race in F1 in 2010, giving it the space that had been vacated by Toyota:

Sauber takes Toyota?s place on 2010 grid

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158 comments on Alonso named best driver of 2010 by team bosses

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  1. Regis said on 3rd December 2010, 0:22

    We all know Alonso is the best driver on the grid. Definitly not the most liked, but the most talented !

    • Regis said on 3rd December 2010, 0:28

      Here are the points:

      1. Alonso 229
      2. Vettel 220
      3. Hamilton 196
      4. Webber 146
      5. Kubica 129
      6. Button 86
      7. Rosberg 68
      8. Hulkenberg 17
      9. Massa 17
      10. Barrichello 11

      Webber is definitly not regarded as a talented driver, he is really far back, any driver could have done the same in the fast car he had.

      • Ned Flanders said on 3rd December 2010, 1:24

        Interesting that the guy in 8th doesn’t even have a contract for 2011…

        • US_Peter (@us_peter) said on 3rd December 2010, 4:23

          And that Kobayashi, who outdrove him in an inferior car after countless mechanical failures wasn’t even on that list. Not that I’m saying he’s in the top 10 at the moment, but I have to assume that Hülkenberg being on there in that spot has more to do with his 1 pole position being fresh in the minds of the team principles when this survey was conducted.

          • Soumya Banerjee said on 3rd December 2010, 6:07

            Surprised to see both HAM and KUB lower down the order compared to Vettel.

      • Faraz said on 3rd December 2010, 9:19

        Oh look at that the great Jenson Button is only 8th looks like a lot of team principals agree with me.

      • Gusto said on 3rd December 2010, 21:47

        You forget that HAM was held back at Monaco and drove off the road at SPA in 2007. In 2008 there was a dodgy moment, 2009 was a DD year then came Ferrari, He streched He`s muscle and Massa bowed to the pressure in front off everybodies eyes at HOC. When you look over ALO I can feel nothing but `Hmmmm` little bit dodgy. Best driver No.

    • Ned Flanders said on 3rd December 2010, 1:23

      Do we? He’s most probably in the top 3, along with Hamilton and Vettel, but after 2007 I have always had my reservations with him being the undisputed top dog

    • Jarred Walmsley (@jarred-walmsley) said on 3rd December 2010, 1:25

      So,apparently all one needs to do is have his teammate pull over for him and be unable to pass a rookie. and then they will win driver of the year

      • You also forgot coasting in 2nd place waiting for a DNF win!

        • US_Peter (@us_peter) said on 3rd December 2010, 4:24

          Which happened on more than one occasion.

        • Soumya Banerjee said on 3rd December 2010, 6:09

          Same for Hamilton there!!! And McLaren themselves believe they were quicker than Ferrari overall!!! Which just shows the magnitude of Alonso’s talent,i think.

          • RIISE (@riise) said on 3rd December 2010, 9:26

            Wait, so because Alonso got wins because of DNF’s that makes him less of a driver? I’ve said it before and i’ll say it again. If Alonso had the Red Bull he would’ve won the title before Suzuka easily, Vettel wouldn’t.

            That Ferrari couldn’t keep up with the Red Bull, or are we being ignorant and think the cars were equal? Some people….Alonso will show next season why he is the best in the field when Red Bull are brought back out of their bubble and have a car on pace with everyone else.

          • Burnout said on 4th December 2010, 20:31

            RIISE, is it Vettel’s fault his exhaust broke in Bahrain, his brakes failed in Australia and his engine blew up in Korea?

            While there may be some truth in that he’s hard on the machinery, I really doubt Alonso would’ve wrapped up the title much earlier given the kind of machinery Vettel had.

          • Burnout said on 4th December 2010, 20:33

            I mean, given the SAME kind of machinery Vettel had

          • Derek said on 8th December 2010, 16:21

            Alonso and Hamilton would have won the WDC much earlier if they were RBR drivers…..solong as they were not RBR drivers at the same time or it would be 2007 all over again!!

    • Jelle van der Meer said on 3rd December 2010, 8:41

      Disagree – Alonso is not the best driver on the grid and certainly not the most talented.

      Alonso has not been talented for a while, the new drivers Vettel, Kubica, etc are better examples.

      What did Alonso actually do this year, most of the points he got by (mechnical) failures of others or teamorders. He didn’t have brilliant drivers like some other people and when most needed he could not overtook a rookie in an inferior car.

      You are right that is the least liked driver on the grid but that is for a very good reason, Alonso is not a real racer and a sore loser.

      • Commendatore said on 3rd December 2010, 9:17

        Vettel better? Are you talking about the “pole kid” who couldn’t win in a beast of a car, or the “wunder-crash-kid? :)

        I agree though about Kubica & Rosberg – they certainly are as talented as Alonso, but lack the experience and the “killer” mindset of a ruthless champion. Their day of glory will come… and i fear it’ll be pretty soon. ;)

        As for Hamilton, Button & Webber – they all had a faster car all season long than Alonso, yet in the end they failed to outscore him (even if you take away the 7 “illegal” points from the German GP)!!!

        Well, I hope you see things clearer now… :)

      • Brakius said on 3rd December 2010, 13:10

        I wish I had a link to the article, but I think it was in Motorsport magazine in an interview with Sir Stirling Moss. He talks about how Alonso is the best driver in F1 and why.

        Like the great Jim Clark, he can adjust his driving style to suit the car and always has. Never hear him complaining about an undrivable car like Hamilton does so often, just get on with it and drive the car.

        Never been much of an Alonso fan until reading the interview, Moss will convince you he is very talanted. He sees things we just wouldn’t think of looking at.

        • judo chop said on 3rd December 2010, 14:01

          ” Never hear him complaining about an undrivable car like Hamilton does so often”

          That’s true because he’s always whingeing about Hamilton himself.

        • Paper Tiger said on 4th December 2010, 11:51

          “Never hear him complaining about an undrivable car like Hamilton does so often, just get on with it and drive the car.”

          Clearly you didn’t watch Korea then.

          Alonso: These are the worst conditions I’ve ever driven in.

          Hamilton: It’s fine!

      • Carl27 said on 3rd December 2010, 15:08

        If I have to choose between YOUR opinion and the team principals, let me think….do you think that you know more about F1 than these guys…?
        and of course FA is not a real racer of course he just a passer by.

        • chemakal said on 3rd December 2010, 19:15

          team principals and drivers too, they voted FA as the best and most complete driver

        • Derek said on 8th December 2010, 16:30

          I would agree with the team pricipals. But Alonso was not without some driver error this year. eg. jump start; Monico off in Qually; Spa oof in race for example.
          Hamilton should have been second, I know he had two 1st lap offs but I’m a fan!!

      • Todfod (@todfod) said on 4th December 2010, 8:11

        @Jelle van der Meer.

        “He didn’t have brilliant drivers like some other people and when most needed he could not overtook a rookie in an inferior car.”

        What about the Singapore GP? He was the only driver this season to have a perfect race weekend, in a car that was still slower than the RB6 at that circuit. What about his Monza win? Dont you think other drivers such as Lewis were handed a win at Turkey? Webber handed a win due to Vettel sleeping at the restart at Hungary.

        And if you are judging him by his ability to overtake a car that was faster on the straights in Abu Dhabi… then I guess you do not know much about this sport anyways.

        I’m sure you are not a fan .. but you cannot deny that he is a phenomenal driver.

      • Dennoow said on 4th December 2010, 15:32

        What did Alonso do this year?? He didn’t have a brilliant drive???? Dude where the hell have you been this year? He drove a grand slam in Singapore with a car that was actually faster 0.2 seconds behind him (that hasn’t been done since 2004 when Schumacher did it in a Ferrari that was waaaayyy better than all other cars). That’s the most impressive drive all season by far!!!

        He competed untill the end of the championship with a car that was third fastest on the grid, drove from 24 to 6 in Monaco, completely destroyed Massa who showed the true pace of the Ferrari, drove consistent and smart (saved tires and engines where he could, along with some great passing moves), did a brilliant recovery race in Australia I think it was, where Hamilton, Schumacher and Alonso crashed and fell back. Alonso got to 4th place from well behind, drove to his teammate’s tale in half a racing distance.

        Sorry, but I haven’t seen any of the other drivers even close to his level this year. Kubica and Hamilton were great as well, but this guy really did something special. It’s not a surprise that the experts (team bosses and fellow drivers) vote him as the best driver as far as sheer driving skill is concerned.

      • yeah, totally agree…and just to remind all Alonso’s fans Hamilton in rookie year beat Alonso fair and square in the same car…so Alonso never will be better than Hamilton…. Vettel with 10 poles tels everything…if Alonso have same mechanical failure like Vettel, Alonso would be nowhere near top 4

        And for this team bosses votes i have only one word…. bulls…

    • Prisoner Monkeys said on 4th December 2010, 5:27

      We all know Alonso is the best driver on the grid. Definitly not the most liked, but the most talented !

      So talented that he won the 2010 World Championship?

  2. SparkyJay23 said on 3rd December 2010, 0:43

    I think most Team Principles if they had a free choice would grab Alonso. And 4th isn’t really far back.

    Waits for all the haters to show up bleating about the Favoritism at Mclaren

    • Martin Whitmarsh?

      • By all accounts Alonso’s main problem was with Ron, so maybe Martin wouldn’t have so many reservations about signing Fernando. Who knows though? There’s obviously a lot about 2007 at McLaren that we don’t know.

        • In the “you ask the questions” bit in F1 Racing Whitmarsh said he’d had no regrets about Fernando signing at Mclaren and that he’d do it again I think.

        • chemakal said on 3rd December 2010, 19:25

          Martin might, but Alonso would never go back to McLaren, because 07/Ron/Ham and becuase hes dream has always been to drive for Ferrari (dream that most drivers share). In fact, Jean Todt was the only obstacle to not have signed earlier. He would have avoided the biggest error in his career: racing for Mclaren

          • US_Peter (@us_peter) said on 3rd December 2010, 20:17

            I’m pretty sure he’s said in the past his lifelong dream was to drive for Senna’s team… not Ferrari. I’m sure that dream changed after ’07.

          • judo chop said on 4th December 2010, 3:10

            Alonso was McLaren fan. When he went to McLaren he did a speech at the MTC enthusing about McLaren’s history and especially reminisced about when they dominated in 1989. Trying to get preferential treatment knowing their history was silly on his part but he’d still be there if he hadn’t tried to blackmail them. The Alonso v Hamilton rivalry is peanuts compared to Prost v Senna.

          • yeah….and you know way all Schumacher’s, Alonso’s and others similar bad losers drivers is dream to drive for Ferrari
            1. They get undisputed No.1 status
            2. Not even one FIA rule will affect Ferrari ..only small fine
            3. They can speak free whatever they like or behave on track whatever they like and wave to others drivers to let get pass even crash them and get away of it with no penalty

            I remember one driver i think he’s name was Ayrton Senna and never like to drive for Ferrari

          • David-A (@david-a) said on 4th December 2010, 23:30

            LOL @ emil, with the usual, predictable “FIA-rarri” rubbish. You wouldn’t recognise greatness if it slapped you in the face.

          • Julian said on 5th December 2010, 4:18

            @ emil, you do realise that senna said he wanted to end his career at ferrari right?

  3. Gridlock said on 3rd December 2010, 0:44

    Can’t wait to hear the roar of a 1.6l straight 4 through Stowe…

    Grr. Leave Motorsport Alone! I demand free choice of engine layout, let’s get some Merc V10s racing Ferrari V12s and Renault 1.9 turbodiesels :D

  4. Kobayashi not int he top 10? Damn.

    • wasiF1 (@wasif1) said on 3rd December 2010, 1:31

      Kobayashi was better then the last three.

    • Ned Flanders said on 3rd December 2010, 1:37

      I still have my reservations about Koby. He’s a brilliant racer, but his qualifying performances were pretty mediocre. The fact he outpaced Heidfeld was impressive, but I think the jury’s still out

      • He also owned Alonso, the number 1 driver, in Valencia.

      • Same for Button (6th is a fair assessment), he won two races this year, but his qualifying pace relative to Hamilton was really horrid, especially when the race pace of the car was close to the RBRs and the Ferraris

      • Kobayashi’s qualifying this year was just fine. He made it to Q3 a few times, and he normally qualified around 12th or 13th position which isn’t bad. He had a few off-days in qualifying, but so did most of the drivers.

  5. Ned Flanders said on 3rd December 2010, 1:20

    Happy birthday RIISE (am I right as pronouncing your name like the footballer John Arne Riise?!) and Damon

  6. Joey-Poey said on 3rd December 2010, 1:58

    Man, I will always love the look of those early 90’s indy cars. They just look so mean and low. And Senna would have been a beast in a Penske.

  7. Prisoner Monkeys said on 3rd December 2010, 3:02

    The team principals were paynig attention in Germany, right? I mean, Alonso basically got on the radio and said “I’m faster than Massa, but I can’t pass him all on my own – could you guys get him to move over for me?”

    • US_Peter (@us_peter) said on 3rd December 2010, 4:27

      That’s what makes him the best. He took the initiative to get on the radio and ask for special help. ;-)

      • Prisoner Monkeys said on 3rd December 2010, 5:19

        Actually, it just highlights a disturbing trend with Alonso. He’s either very impatient or very spoiled. He had Ferrari move Massa over for him, but that’s not the only time he’s expressed dissatisfaction with it. In Monaco, he was spotted making aggressive hand gestures towards Lucas di Grassi, and he did something similar to Vitaly Petrov on the warm-down lap in Abu Dhabi. Alonso seems to expect that drivers will simply get out of his way the moment he appears in their wing mirrors, despite the fact that they are racing for position and have every right to do so.

        • Todfod (@todfod) said on 3rd December 2010, 7:14

          Other drivers in his situation would get irritated if they were behind Digrassi and Vitaly as well. And while other drivers hold back from expressing it, he really doesn’t give a f***. I think its awesome that he does. As far as Felipe is concerned there is not point in even arguing it, Felipe wasn’t really fighting for the WDC, while Alonso was. He didn’t want to risk anything and took the easy way out.

          • Prisoner Monkeys said on 3rd December 2010, 22:55

            “Not wanting to risk anything” is not an excuse for team orders. And I’m willing to bet that if any other driver was shown venting his frustrations at a driver he was racing for position (I can understand frutrations at a lapped car, but not a car you’re racing), you’d be all over it as a show of bad sportsmanship, not claiming that he doesn’t give a damn.

            Let’s face it: Fernando Alonso can be a bad sport. He didn’t even congratulate Vettel in Abu Dhabi.

          • Todfod (@todfod) said on 4th December 2010, 8:28

            Felipe is a crash kid.. we’ve seen him get tangled up in bad overtaking moves as well as terrible defensive moves throughout the season. And lets face it.. Felipe didn’t look like he was going to win the WDC at anytime after the first 4 races of the season. It was just a logical thing for Ferrari and for Fernando. Sure.. a lot of fans didn’t like it.. including myself.. but Ferrari had one driver capable of winning the WDC and another who wasn’t. Simple.

            And when it comes to the Petrov incident.. I think he just realised that he lost the WDC on a bad call. He was frustrated and in the heat of the moment he made an unsportsmanlike gesture. People make mistakes in the heat of the moment.. we are all human after all. I just think that gesture was blown way out of proportion.

        • chemakal said on 3rd December 2010, 19:35

          Againd and again, Germany. Can’t imagine all your posts if FA would have been champion by less than 7 points.

          TEAM MANAGERS AND DRIVERS HAVE VOTED FERNANDO ALONSO BEST AND MOST COMPLETE DRIVER.

          But of course, PM knows more than all of them together… aghhhh….

    • Hamish said on 3rd December 2010, 6:10

      I think that more highlights the problem with the sport, not the driver.

    • Maciek said on 3rd December 2010, 8:24

      I think that maybe Alonso did one or two other things in all the other races this year to be among the four contenders at the end.

      Opinions are opinions, but can’t you please try beat a different drum about Alonso? He’s made some of the most memorable overtakes of the last decade, and that won’t disappear because of one race where he and the team pulled a crappy move on a deserving – if too pliable – teammate.

  8. i think the team bosses should also name the worst drivers in 2010, or let’s have vote on f1fanatic…

  9. sumedh said on 3rd December 2010, 4:58

    Its clear that the team principals (not principles) have a short memory. The last few races have been assigned much more importance than the races in the first half of the season. What else can account for Button having only about a third of Alonso’s points who wins this poll by having an unbelievable second half.
    Hulk’s pole in the second last race seems to have stuck in the mind of many but they have forgotten that 3 minutes of brilliance does not mask the mediocrity of the entire season.

    Sutil – who suffered with a faltering car in the second half – does not even get a mention. Again, evidence that team principals have failed to consider the entire season, but considered only the recent races.

    • Soumya Banerjee said on 3rd December 2010, 6:13

      Why dont you become a team principal, my good friend,i am sure you would do a better job than these misguided idiots,most of whom have several years,if not decades, of experience in
      identifying driver talent. And Sutil in Korea was probably the worst single performance of the past 2 decades.

      • Regis said on 3rd December 2010, 8:47

        Yeah Sutil was crazy in Korea but very entertaining ! we need more people like him :)

        • People keep having a go at Sutil, but if those passes had of stuck, He would be getting huge amounts of praise now.

          In a similar way, if Koby had crashed when he made those great passes, would we be talking about how good he is? I doubt it…

          If I remember correctly, Sutil had brake problems…

          • David-A (@david-a) said on 4th December 2010, 23:36

            Which is why you shouldn’t be trying to out-

            brake

            people. And that’s only even if your memory does serve you correctly.

      • sumedh said on 3rd December 2010, 10:03

        Yes, one bad performance defines the entire season, doesn’t it?
        Atleast have the decency to quote more than 1 example before objecting to my claims in a blaise manner.

    • Maciek said on 3rd December 2010, 8:29

      “Its clear that the team principals (not principles) have a short memory”

      lol – or is it just that the principals don’t have principles?

    • I’m pretty sure that the team principles have better things to do, than make a list which in the end means absoultely nothing. I highly doubt that they spent anymore than a five minutes assembling their lists.

  10. Soumya Banerjee said on 3rd December 2010, 6:15

    Anybody know the results of the 2009 poll?? I mean besides Alonso’s position there,of course(he was 4th).

  11. JohnBt said on 3rd December 2010, 7:18

    Votes from team principals cannot be doubted. Respect has to be earned and Alonso thrives very well in this zone.

    That’s why the ‘best overall packaged driver’ has been trailing Alonso for years. Most liked persona does not bring you championships.

  12. chemakal said on 3rd December 2010, 8:51

    The drivers, the team managers… all vote for Alonso as the best driver. But well, it seems Alonso haters know far more from F1 than the profesionals. Stay in your dream-cloud while Alonso enjoys his well deserved status, having had an incredible season seating on the 3rd fastest car of the grid.
    Ferrari! Just need the 2nd fastest car next season and Alonso will easily be WDC 2011

  13. “Ferrari! Just need the 2nd fastest car next season and Alonso will easily be WDC 2011″

    Didn’t he have the quickest in 07?

    It seems that most team principles don’t mind the occasional shunt and the odd glaring mistake in what they perceive to be is the make-up of a good driver.

    Bring back Takuma Sato! All is forgiven!

    • Icthyes said on 3rd December 2010, 10:17

      It seems that most team principles don’t mind the occasional shunt and the odd glaring mistake in what they perceive to be is the make-up of a good driver.

      Or indeed having a poor whole first half of the season. Couldn’t pass his slower team-mate in Australia, jumped the start in China, nowhere in Spain until two mechanical erros for others, binned it at Monaco only to be saved by the Safety Car, spent half the race trying to pass Petrov in Turkey (sound familiar?), got mugged in Canada trying to overtake a vastly inferior car, lost his cool in Valencia, had a shocker at Silverstone…Bahrain and Malaysia were his only good weekends.

      Then again, the fact they only ranked him 4th last year makes me think these rankings aren’t exactly a good description ;)

      • US_Peter (@us_peter) said on 3rd December 2010, 20:29

        I think Monza and even more so Singapore were both pretty good weekends for him as well.

      • Todfod (@todfod) said on 4th December 2010, 10:26

        @Ichtyes.We could put point out the exact same number of errors for each of the other three championship contenders throughout the season. Jenson is not included, because in spite of making no errors all season, his sub par pace did not make him a serious championship contender.

    • chemakal said on 3rd December 2010, 18:28

      Aha, I said Ferrari because Alonso needs a decent car actually with a team supporting and not against him so the newcomer shiny new star makes it, jumping to F1 in a top team. Didn’t quite work out Ron! Even equal points endof season, jeje

      By the way, where did Ham finshed this season with the 2nd fastest car? and the tittle defending driver, yes Button..

      THE DRIVERS DID VOTE FOR ALONSO TOO AS BEST AND MOST COMPLETE DRIVER, HELLO??

  14. Fer no.65 (@fer-no65) said on 3rd December 2010, 9:25

    WOW :D My post at the round-up :D.

  15. Dan Thorn (@dan-thorn) said on 3rd December 2010, 10:33

    I can easily see why Alonso (deservedly) topped this poll. After all, if you were a team principal wouldn’t you want a driver who can galvanise and lead a team while at the same time be ferociously quick? You sense Ferrari had real direction this season and Alonso was a huge part of that. It isn’t his fault that he was so much quicker than his team mate.

    So he waved his fist a couple of times and got angry. He isn’t the first one and he wont be the last – remember DC in France in 2000, or evem Hamilton at Bahrain in 2008. It’s a natural reaction and it should be celebrated that there are still drivers who show their raw emotion.

    Taking everything into account, Alonso is probably the best driver on the grid. Vettel might be quicker over a couple of laps, Hamilton might be more attacking and Button might be calmer, but none of them have the complete range of skills like Alonso does. His only real weakness seems to be his emotions sometimes getting the better of him, but that’s hardly crime of the century is it?

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