Michael Schumacher vs Giuseppe Farina

Champion of champions

The first round in the Champion of Champions pairs up the sport’s most prolific title winner, Michael Schumacher, with the original world champion, Giuseppe Farina.

On the face of it the pair seem to have little in common. These are both drivers that sometimes drew criticism from their peers for their driving, particularly their defensive moves.

But while Farina claimed the first ever world championship for Alfa Romeo in 1950 the following year his team mate Juan Manuel Fangio turned the tables on him.

That’s something that rarely happened to Schumacher, at least until his 2010 comeback when he partnered Nico Rosberg at Mercedes.

Schumacher is of course best known for his record five consecutive championships while driving for Ferrari. His 180-race stint with the Scuderia is the longest any driver in F1 history has remained with a single team.

Which of these drivers should go through to the next round of the Champion of Champions? Vote for which you think was best below and explain who you voted for and why in the comments.

Michael Schumacher Giuseppe Farina
Michael Schumacher, Mercedes, Istanbul, 2010 Giuseppe Farina
Titles 1994, 1995, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004 1950
Second in title year/s Damon Hill, Damon Hill, Mika Hakkinen, David Coulthard, Rubens Barrichello, Kimi R??ikk??nen, Rubens Barrichello Juan Manuel Fangio
Teams Jordan, Benetton, Ferrari, Mercedes Alfa Romeo, Ferrari
Notable team mates Nelson Piquet, Eddie Irvine, Rubens Barrichello Juan Manuel Fangio, Alberto Ascari, Mike Hawthorn
Starts 268 33
Wins 91 (33.96%) 5 (15.15%)
Poles 68 (25.37%) 5 (15.15%)
Modern points per start1 14.05 13.55
% car failures2 8.21 15.15
Modern points per available finish3 15.30 15.96
Notes Missed several races in 1999 after breaking his leg at Silverstone Had several non-championship Grand Prix successes before 1950
Retired in 2006 after 11 seasons with Ferrari Badly burned in a crash at Monza in 1954
Returned with Mercedes in 2010 Retired the following season, still suffering from his injuries
Bio Michael Schumacher Giuseppe Farina

1 How many points they scored in their career, adjusted to the 2010 points system, divided by the number of races they started
2 The percentage of races in which they were not classified due to a mechanical failure
3 How many points they scored in their career, adjusted to the 2010 points system, divided by the number of starts in which they did not suffer a race-ending mechanical failure

Which was the better world champion driver?

  • Michael Schumacher (86%)
  • Giuseppe Farina (14%)

Total Voters: 711

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140 comments on Michael Schumacher vs Giuseppe Farina

  1. rampante said on 2nd January 2011, 0:18

    Schumacher holds every record that are worth anything in F1. He could have won over 10 titles if things had gone differently in only a few races (please, I don’t want to start ww3) and he is by far the only driver to be in that position. He is by far not my favourite driver but he is the best, nobody was even close in terms of results. When I was young everyone spoke of Fangio and ignored drivers like Stewart and Clark who both also have to be up there. Younger generations will vote of Senna even though it will all have been seen retrospectively, he should be up there but he was not without faults that under today’s regulations would have him banned or locked up. Love or loathe him Schumacher is the best. The titles are all that count and he’s at the top of the tree.

    • Scribe (@scribe) said on 2nd January 2011, 2:09

      nah, don’t buy it. There’s more to life than titles.

      • Duke (@duke) said on 2nd January 2011, 20:53

        Good job that you never drove in F1,the other drivers would have loved you graciously giving way every time.

        Imagine signing the dotted line for Ferrari>

        ” Do I sign here please where it says I will always give all the other drivers a wave as they go past me!!”

  2. pking008 (@pking008) said on 2nd January 2011, 1:01

    unfair match up

  3. Zadak (@thezadak) said on 2nd January 2011, 1:18

    as much as I don’t like him… I voted Shumacher, simply because he stayed at the fast end of the grid for such a long time in his career

  4. wasiF1 (@wasif1) said on 2nd January 2011, 2:09

    I am not sure how you manages this pairing but I think it was a bit cruel to put drivers of exactly opposite era in the same pair.Farina raced in 50’s with cars which were very different on the cars of 2010.I guess Schumacher Alonso or Hakkinen would have been a better pairing as they raced in the same era.

    Anyways as this is just for fun I voted Schumacher.

    • Burnout said on 2nd January 2011, 8:04

      Keith’s idea is to keep the really high profile match-ups for the later rounds. Personally I think a fairer pairing would have been Hamilton and Farina, or Andretti (only F1 stats) and Farina (only one championship till date and won with the top car of the time).

      Keith, you should put up a championship tree after completing the first round of match-ups. That way we can predict who will run into who on the way to the final.

      • Keith Collantine (@keithcollantine) said on 2nd January 2011, 8:49

        That way we can predict who will run into who on the way to the final.

        That’s exactly why I haven’t done it – didn’t want to take the fun out of it! Will put that up after round one has finished (i.e. the first 16 pairs of drivers).

  5. hroood (@hroood) said on 2nd January 2011, 5:45

    Booo!! Way to give Schumacher a wild card. Like he needs it of all driver’s. put him up against fangio..

    • Daniel said on 2nd January 2011, 6:50

      The pairings are seeded. Who wants to see Federa vs. Nadal in the first round. That’s just stupid.

      • Icthyes (@icthyes) said on 2nd January 2011, 7:56

        Keith, can we know who is seeded and who is not? I’m guessing Fangio, Clark, Stewart, Brabham, Lauda, Piquet, Prost, Senna, Schumacher, maybe Alonso and Hakkinen but that’s about all I can think of.

        • DeadManWoking (@deadmanwoking) said on 2nd January 2011, 9:08

          All the drivers have been seeded to keep the multiple title winners apart until the latter stages of the Champion of Champions.

          There have been 14 multiple winners and 18 single ones so only 2 matchups in the 1st round would feature 2 single title winners against each other.

          • I think two pairs of single title winners involve current driver. So we get something like Lewis Hamilton vs. John Surtees or Sebastian Vettel vs. James Hunt.

      • BasCB (@bascb) said on 2nd January 2011, 11:16

        Exactly, just think of having that kind of pairings in the first round. It would rather take the sense out of it to have guys like Senna, Schumi and Fangio drop out at this stage.

        The hardest choices will be left to the end.

  6. Gustav (@gustav) said on 2nd January 2011, 9:36

    Perhaps you should add the option “Tied”?

  7. perveze7 (@) said on 2nd January 2011, 10:12

    Schumi by far is the best one.

  8. SoLiDG (@solidg) said on 2nd January 2011, 10:39

    Nice series!

    As mentioned, hard to compare.
    I voted Schumi because of his longer time at the top (of the official championship).

  9. Cyclops_PL (@cyclops_pl) said on 2nd January 2011, 11:50

    Strange pairing. Kind of deliberate “no contest”. I guess it would be weird if Schumi was knocked out in the first pair. So Schumi all the way, but only because of “weak” counterpart.

  10. Schumacher. By a mile.

  11. Burnout (@burnout) said on 2nd January 2011, 15:23

    Schumi’s stat of only 8.21% mechanical failures is incredibly low. I haven’t done the math, but I guess only Hamilton has any chance of getting a smaller percentage. The Brawn/Byrne cars were supremely reliable machines.

  12. Cristian (@cristian) said on 2nd January 2011, 19:57

    I agree this is an unfair match. We have to choose between Schumacher, the man that holds every record in F1, and Farina, a driver that was destroyed by Farina in the years at Ferrari.

  13. Cristian (@cristian) said on 2nd January 2011, 19:57

    ^^ Sorry, destroyed by Ascari.

  14. verstappen (@verstappen) said on 2nd January 2011, 20:21

    Even if I wasn’t an alltime Schumi fan, I would’ve voted for him. You’ll have a hard job convincing me there should be someone else Champion of Champions.

    But we will see, maybe some of Keith’s awesome statistics will make it clear that this title belongs to someone else.

  15. Ramin said on 3rd January 2011, 4:31

    ther is just a big gap between these two drivers.
    how they were developed into drivers- Schumy had a go cart when a kid, bit Farina didn’t drive until much later.
    Saftey, Farina must have been braver for risking too much without very little saftey.
    Schumy must be rated better for just getting the job done. And i’m biased.

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