Adrian Newey on the Red Bull X2010

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Red Bull X2010

Red Bull X2010

How fast could an F1-style car go if it wasn’t bound by the rules?

Red Bull design Adrian Newey has explored the idea by creating an imaginary car for “Gran Turismo 5″, which was released last year.

He talks about the project in the video below:

If we didn’t have regulations the opportunity exists to make a car that would be really quite obscenely fast quick around a lap. But it would be pretty uncomfortable to drive because the G-forces would be so high.
Adrian Newey

As seen the video a full-size but non-functioning model of the X2010 (previously called the X1) has been built. It was on show at the official “Gran Turismo 5″ launch party in Madrid, and is likely to be displayed at future events elsewhere.

Red Bull say they don’t know how much it would cost to build the car but it theoretically could be done. The design obeys all physical laws.

However they added that with their engineers working full-time on the F1 project it could prove difficult to find someone to build it even if the money was available.

Have you driven the X2010 in Gran Turismo 5? Let us know in the comments.

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66 comments on Adrian Newey on the Red Bull X2010

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  1. Browny (@browny) said on 12th January 2011, 12:06

    would be interesting too see how much harder overtaking would be if F1 regulations or lack there of allowed the cars to reach this stage, would be very difficult if not impossible given the insane levels of downforce created and tiny braking distances.

    • sw6569 (@sw6569) said on 12th January 2011, 12:19

      overtaking would happen when one of the drivers passed out in the cockpit due to massive g forces!

      • BasCB (@bascb) said on 12th January 2011, 13:38

        LOL, that would end all Pay driver opportunities fast!

      • Williams-BMW submitted a F1 car without boundaries to F1 racing magazine years ago. It had 6 wheels, 2 up front and 4 in the back with the back 4 being AWD.

        Their engineers said it would be physically impossible to drive because the G-forces from acceleration alone would knock out the driver haha.

        It also had ground effects.

        • Actually Motorsport magazine asked Gordon Murray to design what he felt would be the ultimate yet buildable F1 car for their jan 2000 issue (or else the Dec 1999 issue but I digress…) and it was frighteningly similar in concept to the X2010 – turbine powered, fan assist aero, closed cockpit, wheel covers to both reduce drag and increase downforce.

          So maybe Adrian got his inspiration from another F1 design legend?

        • The Sri Lankan said on 14th January 2011, 10:33

          wheres the reference to that?

    • The Sri Lankan said on 14th January 2011, 10:35

      imagine if this concept was adopted by ACO for Lemans Prototypes? i think F1 will loose major support

    • it’s not like they’d run these cars on current tracks, they would need whole new tracks with new safety measures. this means the budget to get a racing up and running extremely high, not to mention the amount of time it takes to build them. so it’s highly unlikely they’d ever make a racing series ( unfortunately.) if anything, they may build one for testing and/or show.

  2. rfs (@rfs) said on 12th January 2011, 12:11

    So Newey actually designed it? I thought Polyphony designed it and Newey just told them to stick a fan in the back.

  3. Scribe (@scribe) said on 12th January 2011, 12:11

    I THINK WE SHOULD PUT F1 OFF FOR A YEAR.

    F1 hasn’t had a break in 60 so why not, this car needs building.

    • BasCB (@bascb) said on 12th January 2011, 13:40

      Maybe the FIA should just DSQ Red Bull for a season, for the reason of a) Building an F1 car that won the championships this year and beating Ferrari and b) showing they did not even do their best in car design, as this is clearly a lot faster!

      Then Newey can use the year to have them build this and blitz the field as a support program to F1.

  4. Certainly it would only run circuits like Istanbul or Bahrain that are smooth and consistent with big run offs. Nobody with respect for life and limb would want to bring that beast to a track where barriers are close by.

  5. Prisoner Monkeys (@prisoner-monkeys) said on 12th January 2011, 12:29

    Ugh, don’t get me started on the X2010. I’m a moderator over at GT Planet – interludes, for those of you playing at home – and the trading subforum is inundated with hundreds of requests for the X2010. If I never heard about the car again, it will be too soon.

    • topdowntoedown (@topdowntoedown) said on 12th January 2011, 13:18

      Haha, people are too lazy to just get the free one at L35?

      I’m getting there myself – heard a report that this thing can go around the Parabolica flat at 240 mph…!

    • I agree, it’s great and fantastic and awesome and why can’t it just go away?
      The one problem I have is that I am a bit competitive, so when people say, it’s impossible to drive with a controller… They are kinda forcing my hand…

      Anyway, Everyone knows the coolest car is the Honda Z Act ’70.

  6. Dan Thorn (@dan-thorn) said on 12th January 2011, 12:49

    I’ve driven the car, but the challenge required to actually win it is just about physically impossible for old school gamers like me who insist on using a controller.

    That said, it is unbelivable. You go into a corner thinking ‘nothing can go quicker than that’ and then on the next lap you brake a little later, turn a little later and accelerate a touch earlier and you go through the same corner 30 or 40mph quicker.

    Disappointingly I’ll have to shell out on a decent wheel to fully appreciate it, though.

    • BasCB (@bascb) said on 12th January 2011, 13:42

      Thanks for the feedback. I would think Adrian Sutil has been busy driving laps in this baby all winter!

    • Dave Blanc said on 13th January 2011, 2:38

      Why would you WANT to play a driving game with a controller and not a steering wheel? Better off sticking to Donkey-Kong or something mate.

      • Dan Thorn (@dan-thorn) said on 13th January 2011, 9:39

        A) Because I always have, I’m used to it and I’m pretty handy with one
        B) Because I’ve used wheels before and I don’t like them.

        • damonsmedley (@damonsmedley) said on 15th January 2011, 13:00

          I use a controller for all racing games too. But that’s only because I am not willing to spend hundreds of dollars on a wheel. How do you get this car? I am just starting and have no idea how to do anything on GT5, let alone unlock things.

  7. Byron r said on 12th January 2011, 13:48

    Lap times in the game for circuits like Suzuka and Monza are around the 1 min mark, for example in the Formula Gran Turismo car Monza is a low 1:20. It’s like playing in fast forward.
    Obtainable after completing Sebastian Vettel challenge available at level 30.

  8. Oh come on, Dietrich Mateschitz is swimming in money. hire a few extra staff and get this thing built.

    Screw it… get 20 built… I want a one-make series and I want it now!

  9. wasiF1 (@wasif1) said on 12th January 2011, 15:11

    Surely sometime in the future someone will have time to build a car like that, would love to see how it on track & who knows many including complains about the speed of a safety car, so why not?

  10. Fred Schechter said on 12th January 2011, 16:30

    Somewhere, a Can Am car and a Porsche 917, winked, had a smoke, and longingly looked at their baby.

    Their baby bellowed.

  11. Icthyes said on 12th January 2011, 17:04

    If ever there was an argument in favour of not having unrestricted car development, this is it. The thing looks as ugly as sin, I wouldn’t want 24 of these going around a track on a Sunday afternoon.

  12. kowalsky (@kowalsky) said on 12th January 2011, 17:32

    it could be used for qualy. During the races, reduce the turbo boost, so it gives arround 850 bhp. What i consider a fair amount for close racing. We would have the best of both worlds.
    Race tracks will be full of fans on saturdays, you can be sure about that.

  13. joac21 (@joac21) said on 12th January 2011, 17:33

    that would make the perfomance differentiator be the driver… or the driver that can hold more G forces!

  14. I’d like to see Vettel grin like that (1:36 in the video) taking turns at 8g in real life. The car is nearly impossible to drive with a controller. I bronzed the three challenges when they became available at level 30 but it took me nearly two straight days of gameplay. The problem isn’t so much one of physical control, but mental focus and situational awareness. By the time you’ve registered what corner you’re on, you’re already into the sand. During one of my attempts to lap Suzuka in a little over a minute, I turned to my girlfriend (also an F1 fan) and commented on the run up to 130R, “This car would kill people.”

  15. Victorinox said on 12th January 2011, 19:06

    So Red Bull managed to sponsor the Batmobile… wow…

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