Bruno Senna, Renault, Jerez, 2011

Jerez test day 4 in pictures

2011 F1 testingPosted on | Author Keith Collantine

The final day of testing is underway at Jerez with Bruno Senna doing his first run in the Renault.

Here are pictures from today’s test.

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107 comments on “Jerez test day 4 in pictures”

  1. What camera are you using for these test days and what-not Keith?

  2. Ok Keith, I’m hearing drivers are saying that the usual suspects are looking strongest ( McLaren, RBR and Ferrari). In your opinion coz you are there too, who’s looking best over long runs and who’s looking the best of the rest?

    1. Not sure about McLaren because they’ve not done much running. But as you say the other two look good, clearly quick and reliable from the get-go.

      1. Renault look fast too.

  3. Could you please provide us with the lap times of Bruno Senna as of now? Thanks!

    1. http://live.autosport.com/commentary.php/id/309

      Autosport have the times off to the side, only the best though. He hasnt done many laps so far, hoping for more later on. :)

  4. I’m bot sure whether or not it’s the paint, but that front wing on the RedBull looks huge. I’m sure Newey has a reason for that :)

  5. Anyone else noticing the large rubber pad on the nose of the McLaren?

    1. Yeah… You are right… I can only imagine it’s a device to measure airflow, They do seem to have all the other bits attached to the car so that seems to make sense.

      1. Or alter it….?

        1. Speaking of altering, which was my guess as well, did anyone else see that the Mercedes has the fins aside the radiator chopped down to about 8 inches? I checked and everyone else is running full length (to the top of the radiator) fins. Interesting.

      2. But it looks quite advanced and polished with the logo on it and nice rounded edges to be just some sensors (those are just taped on).

        Maybe Keith can ask McLaren about it?

        1. Lol its a shadow!! Look how it curves down the side of the front of the nose. Its the big media centre bridge that runs over the track.

          1. Nah. Look closer.

          2. That would be the first 3D shadow featuring a Mercedes star logo on it. Have a close look and you’ll see.

          3. Look again full screen and expanded; it is definitely not a shadow, unless those have matter and mass now.

          4. Err no really you look closer. Its not remotely 3d. Look at the tip of the nose, its is uneven where the light from the edge of the bridge is hitting the car.

            Why would their pointless rubber nose mat be fitted unevenly, he he. Its also not on any other mclaren picture from today and not something any team would have any reason to slap on the front of their car.

            Its the shadow from this: http://tinyurl.com/6bjka9d
            End of!

          5. If it was a shadow, there would still be a visual effect of the chrome. Also, looking at the shadows on the ground, it would be far less pronounced and far less local.

          6. It’s not a shadow – the sun wasn’t high enough, the light wasn’t strong enough and the bridge wasn’t close enough.

          7. Seriously I cant believe this, testing makes people go mad!

            If it was a shadow, there would still be a visual effect of the chrome.

            Exactly why you can still see the 3 pointed star and the 2 silver curves at 4 and 8oclock below the merc badge. where the bridge stretches across and down the sides of the nose unevenly in a 100% non 3d fashion.

            Also, looking at the shadows on the ground, it would be far less pronounced and far less local.

            Do you think a black shadow will be more pronounced on a highly reflective chrome nose or dull grey tarmac!?! The reflection is not on the front wing as the wing angles mean the sky from in front of the bridge is being reflected.

          8. Give up Adam. As Keith said (who is there) the bridge in question was not close enough.

            Plus I think its blatantly obvious anyway that its not a shadow.

          9. It’s hard to tell whether there is something on the car or if its just a reflection of something above. It’s not a “shadow” tho.

          10. Tell me where the 1 is of the Mobil 1 logo? The nose has a slightly downward slope, so it should be equally visible as the mercedes logo. It’s not visible, because whatever is on the nose is higher than the actual nose and thus blocking the sight of the 1.

            http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/butt_mcla_jere_2011_22.jpg / http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/butt_alon_jere_2011.jpg

      3. R u guys r nuts, its not rubber pad or any other device to measure airflow. Rather it is colored dye that helps to identify the pattern or aerodynamics effects of wings or other things………. it is so simple.. how could anyone miss that……..

    2. Anyone else noticing the large rubber pad on the nose of the McLaren?

      Thats McLaren’s innovative exhaust system, it blows hot air over the drivers faces to make them think their on a beach in the Seychelles.

      1. Haha… Thus making them relax and drive….. Faster?

        1. Or, like McLaren is just hot air?

      2. EBF – Exhaust blown face

  6. Senna’s gotta beat 1.20.361… And probably by a fair margin to impress and make it worth risking the lack of experience he has.

    1. Boullier has already said that he won’t be driving and now he’s just doing km’s…

      1. Where did you get that?

        1. He said that in the interview for the polish site f1.pl site as well it has been published by other media – Autosport

          -Renault team boss Eric Boullier has already ruled Bruno out of being in contention for the drive, because he doesn’t meet the team’s requirement of being an experienced driver. He’s giving the Brazilian some time in the car to help him build his experience…

          1. That makes sense to me. I’d love to see Senna in a decent car and on the grid this year, but not even I would make that call if I was Eric Boullier.

            They just can’t have two inexperienced drivers on the grid.

            I’d have picked Kubica and Senna though in the first place. ;-)

          2. If he is serious about giving Senna experience, the decent thing would be to give him some FP1 sessions alternating between cars like Force India did for H├╝lkenberg. I wish more teams would adopt this attitude for their 3rd drivers. With no testing it’s the best way of evaluating drivers and giving them mileage behind the wheel.

  7. Looking at that Ferrari/McLaren picture, I can’t help feeling there’s a bit of ‘ours are bigger than yours’ going on,,,,,

  8. I don’t want to buy into any of this Lotus Renault GP v Team Lotus marketing/one-upmanship garbage, but it really is pretty awesome to see “that” yellow helmet in a black and gold F1 car again.

    1. Danny Bahar sends his warm regards to you, the humble racing fan… As he sits a little more comfortably in his chair ;)

      1. I’m glad I didn’t pin my colours to either mast in that last post, I just said it was awesome to see! Now if Danny fances sending me a cheque I’ll be happy to disclose my favorite Lotus… ;)

        1. I think he’d be happy creating a warm fuzzy feeling in peoples stomachs. Especially in Brasil. He’s not naive. :)

          1. This is very true…pity then that Eric Boullier seems to be about ready to give Nick Heidfeld the race seat.

          2. Looks great doesn’t it, if only it looked like this however…

            renault_noredplease.png

          3. Inoke, yes! That Renault without the red endplates looks much better! +1

          4. Even I like it like that!

  9. Is it the angle or are McLaren running a front wing with a different top inboard winglet size on the left to the right? The one on the left seems shorter, with a gap to the inner top winglet. The right seems longer, and connects with the top winglet. Seems to me the camera angle would effect the reverse if the winglets were staggered back of the inner top winglet…

    … Make sense?

    1. I get what you mean but I think its a combination of the camera angle and the angles that the winglets sit in relation to each other.

      1. True, but the fat lady isn’t singing yet, otherwise Nick wouldn’t be undoubted if he’s got the seat. Brunos got some space in which to blow EBs mind. It’s unlikely… But you never do know 100%

        1. *uncertain !

          Brain/iPad have stated irreconcilable differences evidently

  10. the-muffin-man
    13th February 2011, 10:04

    I’m not 100% sure of the safety of these forward facing exhausts.

    What happens when an engine blows? At the least I would have thought the driver would get a faceful of exhaust gases (which can’t be healthy!) and at the worst a plume of flames around the cockpit.

    1. I thinks it’d be fine, unless the car was stationary. Without refuelling though I reckon it’s unlikely any flame would come from the exhaust while stationary.

  11. He is already faster than Petrov was with 2 days of testing

    1. But without knowing anything about their respective programs, and knowing how much the track has “rubbered-in” that might not say all that much.

      That said, Autosport live noted a quote from Renault (Bouiller) noting that Senna wasn’t going to get the drive for lack of experience, but that it would be good to give him some experience in the car “for the longer term”. So I suppose that it could well be about giving Petrov some competition.

      Anyway, good for Senna to get some time in a faster F1 car again.

      1. that was entirely my point, shame the car is covered in petrovs financial backers.

  12. FASTEST TIMES
    1 Barrichello Williams 1m19.832s
    2 Alonso Ferrari 1m21.074s
    3 Buemi Toro Rosso 1m21.682s
    4 Senna Renault 1m21.990s
    5 Kobayashi Sauber 1m22.207s
    6 Vettel Red Bull 1m22.222s
    7 Rosberg Mercedes 1m22.773s
    8 D’Ambrosio Virgin 1m22.985s
    9 Di Resta Force India 1m23.444s
    10 Button McLaren 1m23.602s
    11 Kovalainen Lotus 1m24.023s
    All timing unofficial. Updated: 10:27 GMT

    1. awsome time by barrichello!!!! Where that time came from. Is it a sign that, that rear of the car invention, it’s the tecnical eureka moment of the year?

      1. It was the first lap of an eight-lap run and by the end of it he was in the 1’23s so he was definitely on a softer compounds, probably the super-softs.

  13. That Force India looks like tank.

  14. It seems like Alonso’s helmet has a little picture of a helmet on it (see the image on Autosport’s live timing page, link in fordsrule’s post above).

    Does anyone know what it is?

    1. I think it is Kubica’s, not positive though. :)

    2. That’s a picture of Kubica’s helmet. Steph posted a picture link of a close-up yesterday.

      Nice touch, isn’t it?

      1. It actually is. +1 Fernando!

        1. Yep it’s Kubica’s. It reminded me of 09 when Rubens stuck a picture of Felipe’s on his. It’s a lovely gesture.

  15. Alonso – 1:20.4

    Ferrari, RBR, have got a 1:19 in them and maybe Mclaren and Renault but will we see it in the actual times?

    1. I think that ‘every’ team there could probably do a 1.19.

      1. Not every team there is about to have an IPO.

        Stick the softs on and pump up the share
        demand….

  16. Maybe I’ve been slow to notice – but that little fin that the RedBull had on launch day has disappeared – so it really was there only for logo purposes; humble pie for me, I was arguing that “surely that’s not they way they do things”.

  17. Why does the Williams timing have some times for the other day but not others. Its not as if it just show the quickest times yet.

  18. I know you are mainly Maclaren fans,so sorry to interrupt, but what happened to Rosberg,Michael drove that car for 2 days with hardly any problems.

    1. Maybe after being satisfied with those tests (a lot of learning the tyres), they are now trying new bits again?

    2. Well as a F1 fan first and a Williams fan second I’m pretty happy right now.

      Not sure about Rosberg. His done something like 18 laps

      1. Whoops….*He has done*

    3. I know you are mainly Maclaren fans

      Don’t know where you got that idea from. The previous comments are about Red Bull, Williams, Force India, Renault and Lotus as well as McLaren.

      1. Keith Keep your great work, As far as i followed u i dont see any favoritism from you nor u did say something in favor of any particular team. I am a fan of F1 so team rivalry give me thrill but not hatred. so dont mind the foolish word 4m the little avenger ;-)

    4. @Dianna,

      I know what you mean, but most of the fans here just love F1… again, it is a British site so expect that there are more pro-Mclaren fans than Ferrari. There are a lot of Tifosi and other teams fans on here as well however. I’d guess 95% of the fans on this site are Adrian Newey fans…so we’ve all got that in common =)

      1. Hi Chris, Yes a Schumacher fan here and I am British!!! :)
        Also a Ferrari fan like you? AZnyway back to Autosport as my questiom wasn’t answered sadly.

    5. Yeah, Nico seems to be having problems with his car no matter the day. Michael managed to put in 200 laps in the past two days so his car seems to be sorted out.

      Williams must be happy that Rubens is eating up track and gathering data today.

      And those Ferraris keep pounding away. They’ll be tough at Bahrain.

  19. Keith,

    Is it just me or are the pictures not as good as normally (quality wise). I noticed that with yesterdays pics too. I normally use them as Desktop Wallpapers but these look quite pixelated… ;(

  20. Bruno should get the chance. Nick got many.
    Bruno fastest lap so far is 1 21 990 which is just 1.5 sec slower than Nick. He should set up the car nicely and go for Nick’s time of yesterday in the last hour of the day.

    Good Luck

    1. 1.5 secs slower with a much better track. That’s not so hot IMO.

      1. never know what strategies he is running, could be completely different to Heidfield. Although I do agree, I think Senna deserves the seat.

  21. I find the location of the camera wings on the Renault and I think it was the Mercedes very odd; I didn’t realize they could place them anywhere. Renaults are on the inside of the front wing supports while Mercedes are basically behind the reference plane on the front wing.

    Also, I’m still curious why Merc have cut the fins in front of the radiator so if anyone has any knowledge of how this works or why they would do this place your comments!

    A final note: That Santander logo looks like a dog poo doesn’t it? Seriously, its a nicely coiled up dog poo; one would think they would have noticed by now.

    1. I suppose there are limitations of where the cameras can be. But last year already both McLaren and mercedes (i think Red Bull at some races as well) put them very low above the front wing and between the pillars.

  22. Guys, out of topic, but why FIA didn’t bring back refueling in 2011?
    what is the purpose behind letting the cars running with full fuel tanks?
    F1 was much more interesting when refueling was allowed!
    miss the strategy fights!!!

    1. they said there had been too many fires during refueling so stopped it

    2. Not only was it a safety issue, it was also one of the reasons why pit stops had become too predictable.

    3. because refueling only ever hurt the on-track racing which everyone has suddenly become so concerned about.

      all refueling ever did was make strategy more important than racing so everyone looked at the best way of gaining places in the pits rather than on the track.

      besides for all the whining about dull races in 2010, there was more on-track passing last year than any year since 1990 and way, way more passing than at any time during the refueling era.

  23. Frank Dernie (F1 engineer/designer) emailed Autosport, to say:

    “Enjoying the live coverage from the test. I thought readers may be interested in the type of testing teams are likely to be doing.

    “Every engineer has a different approach to keeping the others guessing. The fact is that, by miles, the most important thing everyone needs to do is learn how to get the best from the tyres. You learn almost nothing running light, so it is unlikely that any serious team will run low fuel at all, or if they do one or two runs only.

    “A car set up well for the tyres whilst heavy will be good light, the converse is almost never true. It means that it is quite likely nobody important will show their true pace before the first race.

    “Getting a race distance on the car is crucial. The best way to evaluate the competitiveness of the teams will be to compare the pace in the race simulations, but this data is rarely published, unfortunately.

    “The list of fastest times, which is always published, is probably the least useful testing information an observer gets!

    Can only agree with every word he says.

    1. Except all the lap data is available, and yes more point looking at the headline times i.e fastest.. but who does that?

      1. The lap data may be available, but tyre and fuel load data is not. So it is still meaningless to all but a few.

  24. I dont want to be consider as a hater, i like that Brunno had this opportunity but i feel that this was only due to sponsors and his name i┬┤ve been following his career like no other driver and i know 10 or 15 drivers with similar talent

    1. What sponsors has he brought to Renault? as far as I can see, none of them are on the car.

      1. Indeed. He has also stopped wearing that blue Embratel baseball cap that was obviously bringing in money last season.

  25. If renault hadn’t made a pigs ear of the livery this year and did the JPS thing properly, senna in the car might look reminiscent of Ayrton.

    1. Because looks are what’s more important ?

      The Renault does have a bad version of the JPS livery, whereas the Lotus does have a much better version of the original Lotus livery. Oh the irony.

  26. Bruno’s fastest lap is around 1 second slower than Nick. So does that mean Nick will be picked over Bruno now? I hope not. Nick got many chances and is surely a second group driver. With Bruno you don’t know. So He should be given the chance. Who knows he might be another Hamilton/Vettel.

    And If Bruno doesn’t get the chance now he will be 2nd time unlucky. First with Honda/Brawn.

    1. Well Bruno is not a first class driver that is for sure.

  27. wow the force india is butt ugly from the front!

    1. So agree with this comment… if they were gonna make such a massive rear-end ugly nose cone, they should at least have the good taste to paint it green and try to mask it somehow; like how RBR painted their nose so it looks more pointy even though it really has the hammerhead shark look going on (which imho I find hideous).

  28. Anyone else notice the second front spliter on the Mclaren between the nose cameras?

  29. Could anyone shed some light on the little ‘square’ opening just under the sidepod on the close up of Button..?

  30. When is the new Williams livery due to debut?

  31. Thanks, for all the great pictures from the tests at Jerez and Valencia. I can’t wait for Barcelona and of course Bahrain…

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