25 years ago today: Senna beats Mansell by 0.01s
Grand Prix flashback
Ayrton Senna, Nigel Mansell, Jerez, 1986
On this day in 1986, Nigel Mansell and Ayrton Senna crossed the finishing line in Jerez just 0.014 seconds apart.
The 1986 Spanish Grand Prix witnessed one of the closest finishes in F1 history.
Mansell came desperately close to scoring Williams’ first win since team founder Frank Williams had been dreadfully injured in a road accident.
And the three points he missed out on would have made him champion at the end of the closely-fought 1986 season. Here’s the story of that celebrated race and its epic finish.
The accident
One month earlier, Frank Williams had suffered a dreadful accident which cast a shadow over his team.
On March 8th, Williams were at Paul Ricard for the final test session before the season opened in Brazil. The new Williams-Honda FW11 was already proving competitive. Mansell and Nelson Piquet had put the car through its final paces, with Frank Williams keeping an eye on proceedings.
Satisfied with progress, Frank Williams set off on the 90 minute journey towards Cannes and Nice, with the team’s PR co-ordinator Peter Windsow in the passenger seat.
About 15 minutes into the journey in the hills near the village of Meounes-les-Montrieux, Williams lost control of the car. It ploughed nose-first into a field several feet below the road and landed upside-down. The left-front corner of the roof collapsed, trapping Williams underneath.
Williams survived but suffered paralysis and was kept away from his team for months while he made a slow recovery.
In his absence the team pulled together. Mansell said: “We will close ranks. We have already put Plan B into operation, with Frank’s approval. The best thing we can do, and myself and Nelson Piquet, is get the success the team and especially Frank deserves.”
Rio de Janiero
At the season-opener at the Jacarepagua circuit in Brazil the teams had their first taste of racing under new fuel regulations, with the maximum permitted fuel load cut from 220 to 195 litres. This created an efficiency challenge which the Honda-powered Williams excelled at.
Piquet beat Senna’s Lotus-Renault, with 12 litres of fuel still left in the tank and still managed to shave a second off Alain Prost’s two-year-old lap record.
Mansell’s race was much shorter and less successful – he collided with Senna on the first lap and was out.
In his autobiography he said: “On the first lap of the race in Rio I got a good start and thought I had done enough going down the straight to pass him down the inside into the fast left hander. I got alongside, my right front wheel level with his shoulder and began braking, but he suddenly came across and hit me. I braked hard to avoid an accident, but his left rear wheel hit my right front and sent me off the road into the Armco, tearing off my left front wheel.”
“We did not talk about it afterwards, but I learned an important lesson about racing against him that day. If I hadn’t backed off we would both have hit the Armco and it could have been a serious accident. As it was I came off worse and it would not happen again. His tactic was to intimidate and I refused to be intimidated.”
Three weeks later, the teams were in Jerez for the Spanish Grand Prix.
Jerez de la Frontera
After a four-year hiatus, the Spanish Grand Prix had returned to the world championship calendar with a race at the brand new Jerez de la Frontera circuit near Seville.
It was a brand new circuit, 4.218km in length, 16 corners in all, and regarded as more than adequately wide everywhere. It has been modified since, as the map above shows.
But the spectators’ enclosure was almost empty. There was no Fernando Alonso or any Spanish driver or team to draw in the crowds. Others were put off by the cost of entry – £25 to get in then and at least another £50 for a grandstand seat.
Senna was typically dominant in qualifying. The official Lotus press handout said it all: “Ayrton senna was the quickest driver round the new Jerez circuit [...] setting a time of 1’21.605. Second fastest driver, Nigel Mansell, set a time of 1’23.024 in his Williams.”
1986 Spanish Grand Prix grid
| Row 1 | 1. Ayrton Senna Lotus Renault |
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| 2. Nelson Piquet Williams Honda |
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| Row 2 | 3. Nigel Mansell Williams Honda |
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| 4. Alain Prost McLaren-TAG |
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| Row 3 | 5. Keke Rosberg McLaren-TAG |
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| 6. René Arnoux Ligier-Renault |
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| Row 4 | 7. Gerhard Berger Benetton-BMW |
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| 8. Jacques Laffite Ligier-Renault |
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| Row 5 | 9. Teo Fabi Benetton-BMW |
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| 10. Johnny Dumfries Lotus-Renault |
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| Row 6 | 11. Stefan Johansson Ferrari |
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| 12. Martin Brundle Tyrrell-Renault |
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| Row 7 | 13. Michele Alboreto Ferrari |
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| 14. Riccardo Patrese Brabham-BMW |
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| Row 8 | 15. Elio de Angelis Brabham-BMW |
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| 16. Jonathan Palmer Zakspeed |
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| Row 9 | 17. Alan Jones Lola-Hart |
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| 18. Patrick Tambay Lola-Hart |
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| Row 10 | 19. Thierry Boutsen Arrows-BMW |
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| 20. Philippe Streiff Tyrrell-Renault |
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| Row 11 | 21. Piercarlo Ghinzani Osella-Alfa Romeo |
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| 22. Marc Surer Arrows-BMW |
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| Row 12 | 23. Christian Danner Osella-Alfa Romeo |
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| 24. Andrea de Cesaris Minardi-Motori Moderni |
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| Row 13 | 25. Alessandro Nannini Minardi-Motori Moderni |
On Sunday morning, Senna got away from the line and it was the scene was laregely uneventful at the first corner. At the end of the opening lap it was Senna, followed by the two Williams cars, then Rosberg, Prost and Arnoux.
Mansell said in his autobiography: “I was getting rather worrying information from my fuel consumption readout so I decided to drop back a bit and see how things worked out. It worked; by lap 19 the readout said that I was on target again and I put in some hard laps to try to make up some of the ground I had lost.”
He passed Piquet from second place on lap 34 and forced Senna to get boxed in behind a benchmarker for long enough to pass him. He opened up a lead of around four seconds and held it until his tyres began to disintegrate with 10 laps to go.
A nail-biting finish
Today the 1986 Spanish Grand Prix is remembered as a classic. But some commentators at the time saw it very differently (how little has changed), not least of which Motor Sport’s venerated Denis Jenkinson.
His race report said: “As always, testing and qualifying was the most interesting time, the race itself being a different matter altogether and the 72 laps round the new Jerez circuit was no exception.
“With fuel limited to 195 litres and tyre wear being critical it was a race of tactics rather than gutsy racing. For the first half the leading bunch, of Senna, Piquet, Rosberg, Mansell and Prost, circulated in [single] file letting Senna set the pace, which he did on his fuel consumption gauge rather than his rev-counter.”
But what most people remember is the nail-biting finish.
By lap 66 Prost had closed in to make the leaders a trio. Senna saw a gap and dived through on lap 68 and Mansell retreated into the pits. His rear diffuser panel was coming loose and one of the rear tyres had picked up a slow puncture.
He came straight back out to record a lap time in the 1’29s from a standing start – just 1.3s slower than his fastest flying lap.
With eight laps to go, Mansell was third behind Prost, almost 20 seconds behind Senna. It took Mansell just half a lap to overtake Prost. With two laps to go, Mansell was 5.3 seconds adrift. One lap later, he closed that down to just 1.5 seconds.
Mansell said: “[Senna] was on the limit and so was I. Under braking from the final hairpin I was too far behind to try to pass, but coming out of it I was right on his gearbox. He weaved, but I wasn’t going to be deterred and I kept my foot in.
“We raced for the finish like 100m sprinters ducking for the tape and although I passed him halfway down the straight, he had crossed the line first by 0.014 seconds, or 93 centimetres. If the finish line had been five yards further down the road I would have won. And those [three] extra points would have made a big difference at the end of the year.”
The McLarens of Prost and Keke Rosberg finished third and fourth, believing they had severe fuel consumption problems when in fact they were seeing faulty cockpit readouts. The reliable Benetton B186s of Teo Fabi and Gerhard Berger took the last of the six points-paying places. Only two other cars were classified.
In the words of Nigel Mansell: “Afterwards Prost came up to me and apologised. He said: ‘I thought that Ayrton was too far ahead for either of us to catch him. If I had known you could do it I would have let you past!’”
1986 Spanish Grand Prix result
| Pos | Car | Driver | Team | Laps | Difference |
| 1 | 12 | Ayrton Senna | Lotus-Renault | 72 | 01:48:48 |
| 2 | 5 | Nigel Mansell | Williams-Honda | 72 | 0.014 |
| 3 | 1 | Alain Prost | McLaren-TAG | 72 | 21.552 |
| 4 | 2 | Keke Rosberg | McLaren-TAG | 71 | 1 Lap |
| 5 | 19 | Teo Fabi | Benetton-BMW | 71 | 1 Lap |
| 6 | 20 | Gerhard Berger | Benetton-BMW | 71 | 1 Lap |
| 7 | 18 | Thierry Boutsen | Arrows-BMW | 68 | 4 Laps |
| 8 | 16 | Patrick Tambay | Lola-Hart | 66 | 6 Laps |
| 11 | Johnny Dumfries | Lotus-Renault | 52 | Gearbox | |
| 3 | Martin Brundle | Tyrrell-Renault | 41 | Engine | |
| 26 | Jacques Laffite | Ligier-Renault | 40 | Halfshaft | |
| 17 | Marc Surer | Arrows-BMW | 39 | Fuel System | |
| 6 | Nelson Piquet | Williams-Honda | 39 | Engine | |
| 8 | Elio de Angelis | Brabham-BMW | 29 | Gearbox | |
| 25 | René Arnoux | Ligier-Renault | 29 | Halfshaft | |
| 27 | Michele Alboreto | Ferrari | 22 | Wheel Bearing | |
| 4 | Philippe Streiff | Tyrrell-Renault | 22 | Engine | |
| 22 | Christian Danner | Osella-Alfa Romeo | 14 | Engine | |
| 28 | Stefan Johansson | Ferrari | 11 | Brakes | |
| 21 | Piercarlo Ghinzani | Osella-Alfa Romeo | 10 | Engine | |
| 7 | Riccardo Patrese | Brabham-BMW | 8 | Gearbox | |
| 23 | Andrea de Cesaris | Minardi-Motori Moderni | 1 | Differential | |
| 14 | Jonathan Palmer | Zakspeed | 0 | Collision | |
| 15 | Alan Jones | Lola-Hart | 0 | Collision | |
| 24 | Alessandro Nannini | Minardi-Motori Moderni | 0 | Collision |
Were you at this race? Do you remember it? Tell us about it in the comments.
Grand Prix flashback
- 25 years ago today: Senna’s first win for McLaren
- Today in 1993: Senna’s last great race at Donington
- Today in 1953: Peron’s Grand Prix ends in carnage
- 20 years ago today: Mansell finally wins the title
- Today in 1987: Mansell defeats Piquet at Silverstone
- Today in 1962: The Clark-Lotus era begins at Spa
- Today in 1982: Start line crash in Canada kills Paletti
- On this day in 1982: Gilles Villeneuve killed at Zolder
- 30 years ago today: Villeneuve and Pironi’s fatal feud at Ferrari
- 20 years ago today: Schumacher’s first podium and Mexico’s last race
Image © Williams/LAT
GektorS said on 13th April 2011, 7:48
Great report
I saw that race on TV I was only 8 years old and I still remember it. Funny thing the coverage of F1 was just qualyfing and the race and reports about fuel consumption were unknown at least for the viewers, there was no internet back then.
That is why I appreciate web pages like yours, thanks for that
Interesting how Senna was known by his behaviour on the track, one of the reasons it was not my favourite driver, never was actually.
I will always remember Mansell and Prost they were gentlemen imho. Prost’s final statement desereves an own report, how really big was the rivalry between Senna and him we will never know…
Icthyes (@icthyes) said on 13th April 2011, 10:28
Yeh it’s always a case of rose-tinted glasses with Senna. If he was starting around today he’d have a legion of haters depending which team he drove for and be in the stewards’ office every race.
I will never doubt his ability or begrudge him his success, but he had a deep flaw. Some people are put off by that, others don’t care, it’s when it’s swept under the carpet (not accusing anyone here of doing that) it annoys me.
Sean said on 13th April 2011, 15:09
Deep flaw my ****.
Strewth. Why does someone always have to come sailing in with his personal agenda whenever a particular driver is even mentioned?
What exactly does your opinion of Senna’s ‘behaviour’ have to do with this article, which is about the 1986 Spanish GP? What exactly was the issue with Senna’s ‘behaviour’ in this race? It was an excellent, clean, race, like many many others of the time (and clean races like this were actually the norm, not the exception). Save the agenda-driven bitching for one of the ubiquitous discussions of, say, Suzuka ’89 and ’90 (which review will in any case show that the idea of Prost as the ideal gentleman, rather than the Machiavelli he clearly was (*), is a myth). Yes, Prost and Mansell were the F1 old guard and were united in friendship against the threatening new kid until they teamed up at Ferrari and fell out (partly, it is alleged by Mansell, over Prost’s underhandedness). So there’s nothing particularly insightful in the observation of that point.
(*) “Mansell recalls one incident where at the 1990 British Grand Prix, the car he drove didn’t handle the same as in the previous race where he had taken pole position. On confronting the mechanics, it transpired that Prost saw Mansell as having a superior car and as a result, they were swapped without telling Mansell”. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigel_Mansell citing # ^ Mansell, Nigel My Autobiography page 222 Collins Willow ISBN 0-00-218497-4). Blah.
But back to the 1986 Spanish GP!!!!!!!!
This was actually a classic race of the type that current efforts with Pirelli and DRS are attempting to recreate. See-sawing pace disparities resulting from different car and tyre conditions, unplanned pit stops, big differences in the cars themselves, three drivers all quick at different points of the race and all potential winners, and a spellbinding finish. I recall that Senna’s tyres were beyond the edge and that he said he nearly lost the car completely a couple of times and only held onto it through sheer luck. The Mansell/ Williams combo was just coming on strong at this point, it was completely fascinating.
I was watching truck races at Brands Hatch that day and I recall Senna’s hair’s breadth win being announced over the tannoy. These days I’d be pretty annoyed at them for doing that! The quality of the driving from all three of them is very evident when you watch this video – they’re all completely on it but no mistakes. Epic stuff and great racing.
Victorinox said on 13th April 2011, 16:43
Great post Sean,
The best drivers are all out for the win. They ALL try to “intimidate” the rivals. “Let Him Who Is Without Sin Cast the First Stone”
Prost crashed Senna in Japan 89. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n50TWnKujrE.
Then Senna crashed Prost in Japan 90.
And even today, “intimidation tactics” are alive and kicking.
Hamilton didn’t let Alonso through on qualy in Hungary 2007, Alonso blocked him on the pits.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWJCGInsVUs
Schumacher tried to put Barrichello in the wall =)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmD050RhOEY
If all of those are not “intimidating” I don’t know what they are.
Depending on which media you are reading the “bad boy” will change. Nowadays, if you read british media, the bad boy is Alonso, but if you read spanish media, he is an angel, and the bad boy is Hamilton. Years ago it was the same with Schumacher, and before that, Senna.
Hopefully, everyone enjoys this kind of intense battles as much as I do. I still have a favorite and also have a “bad boy”, but I still think the sports needs those kinds of rivalries.
Vic.
Icthyes (@icthyes) said on 13th April 2011, 17:37
That is exactly my point Vic. If Senna were around today he would be the bad boy, polarising opinion and not the darling viewed from 20 years in the future. People like you see what Senna did as a natural part of racing. Good, that’s your opinion. I don’t necessarily even disagree with it. It’s just when people decide he’s a genius, not in spite of what he did but by ignoring what he did, was my point.
I thought the aspect of “looking back 25 years” would open up a tiny bit of debate on how we view things and drivers that have long gone. Foe example, the point I make further down the page was that the race so a good one even before the famous finish, yet we seem to only remember the finish. Oh well.
Icthyes (@icthyes) said on 13th April 2011, 17:30
I was feeding off a comment made by someone else, not the article. That’s why I replied to that person, not with an original one.
The truth is Senna often forced people to either let him pass/not pass him or hit him. I never claimed he did anything in this particular race.
Perhaps before you go screaming in with accusations you might want to, you know, read what the person wrote? Hmm?
Sorry for having an opinion.
Laranja Mecanica said on 13th April 2011, 23:48
Deep flaw, yes. And here, yes again. See him weaving all the way from the last corner to the finish line.
For all his ability, Senna was viciously unsportmanslike all his career. He has had of course many imitators, but he was the first and the worst. F1 was never the same after him.
Plenty of F1 fans hated him with all their might, as never a F1 driver had been hated before. You may think that too much people hate Alonso, Schumacher of Hamilton, but it’s nothing compared with how much Senna was hated then. And I’m sorry to say than quite a few were happy that he got killed and celebrated it. But that’s the ugly truth.
Solo (@solo) said on 14th April 2011, 11:26
That kuku talk by Senna haters. Did you guys ever really watch his races or are you talking based on rumors than mostly come from what happened in Suzuka with Prost (which btw Senna still have some moral highground about that too) and on comments like those here from Mansel.
Senna didn’t push people out of track when they were by his side like Schumi did at all. And intimating people on letting him pass is the more ridiculous thing i ever heard. How exactly do you that? Put your nose in the corner? They won’t see you and you will hit.
If you go back and watch the years Berger and Senna drove alongside each other in Mclaren, Berger was hitting people and pulling crazy moves a lot more than Senna did but yet his still considered a gentleman racer and Senna the bad boy.
Anyone who has actually seen the races knows that Senna wasn’t like Schumi at all. You people just jump on a bandwagon that maybe started by Schumi defenders to make their man looks less bad by accusing another guy.
The same goes now with Hamilton and Alonso. Anyone accusing them about track behavior is ignorant to me. I dodn’t like Alonso and how he goes about in his team or the tricks he pulled but while racing on the track he never really is crazy. Hamilton is the same. Yes he has an attacking driving mentality but his not unfair to his opponents. He doesn’t push them off track.
Actually Massa and a little than i noticed lately Alguersuari, seem more unfair in their races by forcing other to back off and driving into them.
Laranja Mecanica said on 14th April 2011, 15:07
You bet I watched his races. Five of them live, actually. And you can’t deny he weaved in Jerez, unless you are blind.
Sean said on 14th April 2011, 22:23
Just shows that some people will take their partisanship to simply ludicrous extremes.
In 1986 at least, the leading driver had the right to choose his line. This included (and still includes) making the other guy take the long way around if he wants to get past, as at least hundreds of examples will attest. Senna didn’t use all the road on the corner exit and just drove to the center of the track…it wasn’t even a block and there wasn’t even the slightest suggestion that Mansell would have to lift. Incredibly mild by any standard – old or new – and I don’t recall the slightest complaint about it (the only complaints from Mansell seemed to be that he’d have preferred the finish line to be further down the track!). It wouldn’t have looked out of place on some lap other than the final one of a Grand Prix, and I can’t even begin to contrast it with, say, what happened in Hungary last year.
It’s incredible that you can’t even put up a 25 year-old video of a classic race without someone crying “unfair”.
Laranja Mecanica is evidently one of those who really hated Senna, but the thing about hate is that it can become all consuming and short-circuit the intellect.
Sean said on 14th April 2011, 22:27
On the subject of Mansell’s post-race comments, I just remembered that he joked that it was so close, he thinks they should be given seven and a half points each. (Not the demeanour of a man who thought his rival had done anything wrong).
Victorinox said on 15th April 2011, 15:22
That final corner was not weaving…THIS is weaving
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDfkz0J74Qg
kowalsky said on 13th April 2011, 7:50
i was there. And the thing i remember vividly is the quali lap senna did. I was in the fast right hander behind the pits. Those were the years of the qualifying tyres, and the 1000bhp engines. And it was amazing to watch the brazilian giving it everything. That bend, even if not as famous as others in the calender, was one of the best i have ever seen. A few years later martin donelly had a huge accident there.
After the race i got into the paddock, and bob dance, lotus chief mechanic, gave me a nacional cap that was on top of a tool box. Not a bad weekend at all.
Keith Collantine (@keithcollantine) said on 13th April 2011, 8:11
Awesome stuff, thanks kowalsky. Am not a little jealous!
I’ve been to Jerez for testing and they still don’t use the fast right-handers. There is a lot more run-off there now than there used to be, though perhaps still not quite enough for F1 cars, particularly at the second bend.
kowalsky said on 13th April 2011, 15:05
that’s what puts me off about f1 nowadays. They destroy the challenge with those chicanes.
Years after that day, i read in a book that that particular saturday, senna did two quali laps good for pole. After he did the first one, he went to the box and his engineer told him to get out, bacause the lap was out of anybody’s reach. But the great brazilian said he lost a couple of tenths and knew he could improve. Even though the team tried to stop him they couldn’t. He went out again and he came back with the lap time he said the car was capable of doing. I witnessed one of those laps, wich one i don’t know. But who cares when you had the chance to see the great ayrton senna at his very best.
BasCB (@bascb) said on 13th April 2011, 9:00
Wow, that sounds really good Kowalsky!
tobinen (@tobinen) said on 13th April 2011, 10:49
Nice one Kowalsky!
US_Peter (@us_peter) said on 13th April 2011, 7:56
Great article! Looks like Laffite is listed twice on the grid, and whoever was 10th is missing.
Keith Collantine (@keithcollantine) said on 13th April 2011, 8:08
Thanks have corrected it.
Merk said on 13th April 2011, 18:11
Just in case Peter Windsor has a peek. You’re going to want correct the spelling of his name (currently Windsow, third paragraph under heading The Accident)
superted666 said on 13th April 2011, 8:22
Great, not i’m going to start watching all the old season previews again.
Hours will be wasted i suspect!
Dan Thorn (@dan-thorn) said on 13th April 2011, 8:27
Fantastic stuff! I love that quote at the end too.
Looks like Arnoux and Brundle did decent jobs in qualifying, as did Palmer.
I always liked the Jerez circuit, even though it’s totally unsuitable for F1 nowadays.
BasCB (@bascb) said on 13th April 2011, 9:02
I liked that as well, nothing like a good feud between certain drivers!
Tango said on 13th April 2011, 8:28
At the timeit wasreally a case of : to finish first, you first have to finish!
Stephen Jones (@aus_steve) said on 13th April 2011, 8:32
great article!
interesting to see the amount of retirees back then!
Shakey66 (@shakey66) said on 13th April 2011, 9:11
Great article Keith.
Am i correct in thinking that this was the race where Mansell once claimed that he thought he’d won because the Start/Finish line had been moved for the race?
Keith Collantine (@keithcollantine) said on 13th April 2011, 9:29
Thanks but check the name under the headline – this was Cari, not me!
And you’re right about the finishing lines – you can see the second line on the video.
Shakey66 (@shakey66) said on 13th April 2011, 12:57
Apologies Cari, an enjoyable read.
Cari Jones (@cari-jones) said on 13th April 2011, 22:10
Thanks – I’m glad you enjoyed it!
Burnout said on 13th April 2011, 9:38
Great read. Thanks Cari.
I Was just going over the list of retirements. 15 drivers dropping out due to mechanical troubles! You never hear of so much attrition these days. And I’ve never heard of a Halfshaft failure. What is it?
topdowntoedown (@topdowntoedown) said on 13th April 2011, 11:30
A half-shaft is the word for a driveshaft that drives the wheels when it comes directly from the gearbox, I believe.
Icthyes (@icthyes) said on 13th April 2011, 10:23
I don’t mean to criticise the article because it’s very good, but the race was even more exciting than it makes out, with an early battle between Mansell, Senna and Prost, including Mansell going from 1st to 3rd in two corners as I recall. Shame you couldn’t get more comprehensive highlights to show.
The BBC’s Classic F1 repeat of the highlights is still up (UK only, sorry), so I urge people to watch the fulllot: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/8034742.stm
Ahmad said on 13th April 2011, 13:58
Great site.. is there an index of these videos? Or any other site where I can watch good quality classic races? Thanks..
Dave said on 13th April 2011, 15:00
http://www.huwselby.com/f1/f1vids.htm is your friend. :)
S.J.M (@sjm) said on 13th April 2011, 19:39
thanks for that!
JCCJCC (@jccjcc) said on 13th April 2011, 11:00
I was only 2 yo at the time of the race.
But fortunately recently I could have the DVDs of all races since 1977, and I finally could see this great great race and imagine how exciting it would have been if I didn’t knew the final outcome.
Bleu (@bleu) said on 13th April 2011, 11:29
One thing I’ve always wondered about this race when seeing clips about it is how those cars are left in the circuit.
There is a Johansson’s Ferrari in Dry Sack corner and Jones’s Lola in Angel Nieto corner in the middle of sand traps. And looking the laps on which they retired, you can see that cars were there almost for the whole race!
The car just next to pit exit isn’t that big problem. Can’t see really which car it is, probably Streiff’s Tyrrell.
topdowntoedown (@topdowntoedown) said on 13th April 2011, 11:32
I’d never noticed just how much the Jerez layout is like Sepang before. Hairpin onto pit straight, tricky first complex followed by fast left-right…
Keith Collantine (@keithcollantine) said on 13th April 2011, 11:34
Scaled down a bit though!
Nixon (@nixon) said on 13th April 2011, 11:48
Nice quote from Prost.
Hare said on 13th April 2011, 11:55
Love that seating position for Senna,… it’s virtually an office chair.
jose Teixido said on 13th April 2011, 15:31
Though the same thing, is like driving a toilette seat with a 1000BHP mill on the back.