Hamilton given penalty for Maldonado collision

2011 Monaco Grand Prix

Lewis Hamilton, McLaren, Monaco, 2011

Lewis Hamilton, McLaren, Monaco, 2011

Lewis Hamilton has been given a 20-second penalty following the Monaco Grand Prix.

However the penalty has no effect on his position as Adrian Sutil behind him had been lapped.

It’s Hamilton’s third penalty of the weekend, following a drive-through penalty in the race and the deletion of his fastest time in qualifying.

Hamilton described the stewarding as “a joke” in an interview after the race.

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  1. sam3110 (@sam3110) said on 29th May 2011, 17:42

    Rubbish decision, he put the man out of the race, should have been given a proper penalty that affected his result, or given him a penalty for the next race. He has to learn that you cannot barge people off the road just because you feel you have a superior car to them. If he tried that move 10 years ago he would have ploughed into some armco on the inside of the corner.

    • Tango said on 29th May 2011, 17:45

      Had he done it 20 years ago, it would habe been like Senna did, and everybody would have applauded him.

      • Nikos said on 29th May 2011, 18:10

        Agree, but–unfortunately–it’s 2011 ;)

      • timi said on 29th May 2011, 18:28

        exactly. i honestly think people just wont let themselves like hamilton. its odd.

        people love schumacher despite him being a total a-hole on track, same for senna a few times tbh.

      • DVC said on 30th May 2011, 4:32

        Rubbish. People despised the way Senna took people out on occasion. Senna was a fast driver, but recently people have been looking at his career with rose coloured glasses. We want to see clean passing, controlled aggression, not hacking. Most of us are glad that type of nonsense has been removed from the sport.

      • LOL said on 30th May 2011, 18:25

        NO its ok now because senna is dead. know one wants talks bad of a dead man. senna was just as dirty as schumacher

      • ROSSI said on 31st May 2011, 22:48

        why,what did senna do @ monaco 91??? i thought he led from pole-flag?

    • CapeFear (@capefear) said on 29th May 2011, 17:49

      @sam3110

      The drive through was fine Rubens got the same for Nico in Aus and Vettel last year got the same on Button. Why do you think Lewis should get more when the accidents are similar?

      The irony of your statement is kinda funny, if Lewis tried that move 10 years ago he would of got no penalty and it would of been written down as racing incident.

    • luigismen (@luigismen) said on 29th May 2011, 17:49

      good response, Hamilton is right, people moan because in F1 nobody overtakes and the FIA create this all sort of rules so there can be any action, but when a driver tries to do an attempt, he gets punished… it’s rubbish.
      We wanted some action? we got some action, now let them race!

      • infy (@infy) said on 29th May 2011, 18:03

        Hamilton is not right.

        There is overtaking, and then there is crashing. They are two different things.

        Lewis also needs to check again to see what classifies as a gap, because I checked those crashes again and not even a bike would have fit through those “gaps”.

        While he deserved worse, the officials were simply being consistent with their rulings, which is exactly what we asked of them.

        • Edinfreak said on 29th May 2011, 18:12

          OK may be you should book in a class for the 2008 world champion to teach him what you recon is a gap for overtaking so that he will end up like you eventually! Job well done!

        • timi said on 29th May 2011, 18:28

          infy, stop trolling around having digs at hamilton..

        • Simon said on 29th May 2011, 18:54

          I’d be interested to hear any views on the Maldonado incident, when compared to the earlier pass on Schumacher.

          First, the Maldonado incident:

          >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbwXSp7V0vw

          At around 11 seconds you can see they are side by side (Maldonado’s front wheels slightly ahead), and Maldonado turns in – seemingly without realising Hamilton is there.

          Next, the pass on Schumacher:

          >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdBgtFrXR44

          Again, at around 5 seconds you can see Hamilton on the inside, with Schumacher’s front wheels slightly ahead. Unlike Maldonado, Schumacher is aware of the situation and doesn’t turn in as early or sharply.

          Is there a difference between these incidents, or was Hamilton right / wrong to go for it on both occasions?

          To me, it boils down to how much responsibility is there on the driver in front / on the outside to be aware of the other car and react accordingly.

          • kim said on 29th May 2011, 19:09

            Simon, I agree with what you have demonstrated.
            Moreover if you look at the massa incident, you will see that massa turn early ( cut off his racing line) whereas Ham is already in his inside. I think they should just let people racing rather than creating those artificial tool like DRS !!

          • alpha said on 29th May 2011, 19:12

            For me, this shows a Gp2 drive and a champion drive.

            You gota leave others some room, thats what all drivers do. Except Mal and massa.

            Did you see how button and hamilton fight for position? they left each other room. and thats what we want to see, and thats how the car should be driven!

          • alpha said on 29th May 2011, 19:17

            It is so clear to me that Maldonado did not leave any room for Hamilton. He cut straight across. Look at how schumacher drives, he turn and leave just enough room for another car there to avoid the accident.

            If you penalize Hamilton for the Mal contact, they should have done the same for the Schumacher overtake move.

            Same move, different opponent.

          • Patrickl (@patrickl) said on 29th May 2011, 20:03

            Maldonado simply didn’t see Hamilton coming. He’s completely in the blind spot.

            The only way drivers can see the other cars is when they completely tilt their head to one side to check the mirror.

            If anything. FIA should make sure that the mirrors actually work.

            Hamilton was slightly further up on Schumacher, so Schumacher would have seen a wheel right next to him.

          • jake said on 29th May 2011, 21:57

            Another incident to compare these to is Hamilton/Webber in Singapore 2010. Hamilton was ahead by a decent length (probly further than Maldonado was) and turned in, leaving a little room for Webber (considerably more then Maldonado left Hamilton). That was deemed a racing incident, and if I remember correctly, the majority deemed that to be Lewis’ mistake.

            With Massa… i’d be interested to know if Lewis would have still got a penalty had Massa not crashed through the tunnel. Maybe Lewis was a little to blame, but for me, as there was no change in position i would have deemed it a racing incident.

          • Nikos said on 29th May 2011, 23:20

            You’re wrong my friend. Schumacher didn’t change his line. It was Lewis who went a little bit inside and avoided the accident. Wear your glasses before you can judge. Lewis is my favorite driver but today I think he drove like nobody else was on the track!

          • Lee said on 29th May 2011, 23:46

            @Nikos

            What on earth are you on about? Schumacher gave hamilton some room. Maldonado didn’t. If you thought hamilton went “a little bit inside” then what do you think he did in the maldonado incident? He was forced off the track!

          • DVC said on 30th May 2011, 4:40

            I’ve watched them closely now. The difference is that Maldonado is much further (about 1.5m) to the right just before the apex. He’s covered the line better. He’s also going a bit quicker than Schumacher was at the point of turn in (I assume because MS’ tyres were shot). From where Maldonado was, had he tried to pull out of the corner the way MS did he’d have ended up in the wall at corner exit.

            If Hamilton and Schumacher had come together it would have been a racing incident, but the incident with Maldonado was Hamilton’s fault because he didn’t take into account the car position or speed of his competitor.

          • mari said on 30th May 2011, 19:47

            The difference is that Schumi respects the line whe he sees Hamilton starting the move and Maldonado doesn`t give that space to Lewis.
            Is the same at Loews. When Schumi overtakes Hamilton the British respect the line But Massa,despite having Webber in front, makes a move to the inside of the turn just to impede Hamilton’s move when he has started the overtake.
            Sorry for my English!!!

        • then go and have your eyes tested before you look at that crash again.what the monkeys is wrong with you

    • f1geordie said on 29th May 2011, 17:58

      He gave schumacher plenty of room at the hairpin on lap 1. He could have just done what massa/maldonado did and drove into schumacher but he didn’t because he was aware schumacher was committed, and that is what massa/maldonado should have done.

      • Patrickl (@patrickl) said on 29th May 2011, 20:08

        It’s weird to think that if Hamilton had simply turned in on Schumacher, Schumacher would have gotten the drive through.

        Totally bizarre way of stewarding.

        Either also give Schumacher a penalty for his overtakes in the chicane Hamilton or leave it as a racing incident when the cars do collide.

        The penalized Hamilton for Fuji 2008 when he missed his braking point, yet collided with noone.

        BTW what happened to the gentlemens agreement that you don’t turn in when the overtaking car has a front wheel in front of your rear wheel?

        Does that only apply to true gentlemen racers like Hamilton and Rosberg?

        • Lee said on 29th May 2011, 23:36

          This is what I don’t understand, Basically they are saying that if the driver in front turns in on you to cause a bump then you are need a penalty but if the driver in front drives properly then you are fine. Schumacher pulled exactly the same move as Hamilton and DiResta but because Massa purposefully turned in on Hamilton (Yes it was clearly on purpose which is why he ended up hitting Webber), Hamilton is considered to have caused an avoidable incident… Same with DiResta… very strange.

          • HxCas (@hxcas) said on 30th May 2011, 2:24

            Look at the replay. Webber was going wide and Massa was having a little look up the inside, hence the odd line. It doesn’t give Hamilton the right to barge into him

    • AndrewTanner (@andrewtanner) said on 29th May 2011, 18:04

      I was saying during the race that he would need a drive-through to be properly penalised. 20s penalties rarely have any significant impact.

      • Sean said on 29th May 2011, 19:23

        Er, Spa 2008? That had an impact.

        I suspect you think 20s penalties are too lenient, except when you don’t.

      • DVC said on 30th May 2011, 4:43

        It’s 21s through the pit lane in Monaco. I doubt that extra second would have done much!

    • matt90 (@matt90) said on 29th May 2011, 20:58

      The Massa penalty was fair. As I saw it, Hamilton was alongside Maldonao a reasonable amount when Maldonado turned in- Maldonado should have been aware a car was alongside him.

      I may be corrected if I see another angle of it however.

      • I agree, the Massa penalty was correct, against Maldonado it was a racing incident.

        Having said that, if Hamilton had turned in on Schumacher at the chicane, instead of leaving him room, what would the stewards have said then? It’s a matter of perspective in some of these tight situations.

      • Lee said on 29th May 2011, 23:40

        Massa clearly turned in on purpose at the chicane. Massa hit webber as a consequence.

  2. EternalSunshine (@eternalsunshine) said on 29th May 2011, 17:44

    There’s the exclamation point to his worst weekend.

  3. Jura said on 29th May 2011, 17:46

    webber did the same thing last year in singapore to hamilton and has he been given a penalty? no !!!
    Lewis is number 1 !! Lewis GO GO !

    • alpha said on 29th May 2011, 17:54

      Exactly!!!!!!! What the hell is wrong with the FIA?? Seriously, I am really sick of it. And who are they who were making the decision?? I have seen the incident a few times, clearly nothing Hamilton could of done to avoid it! It was a fair move!
      Seriously…. They just dont want to see a black guy win. Very simple. Lets be honest.

    • AndrewTanner (@andrewtanner) said on 29th May 2011, 18:06

      The incident in Singapore ’10 was solely Hamilton’s fault. He was trying to take Webber on the outside and he didn’t apply the brakes in time. Webber had the line and the pace.

      • Sean said on 29th May 2011, 19:21

        Well there I have to disagree. LH had already made the pass on Webber at Singapore, Webber tried to get back down the inside, didn’t have enough overlap and just drop-kicked him. This followed earlier cases (like twice in Melbourne) where Webber took LH off with simple errors, the second one ending his race, and didn’t get any penalty for doing so.

        I was OK with the Singapore thing being judged just a racing incident on a restart but, that being the case, then there was no reason to assess a penalty in the Maldonado case. As they came into Ste Devote it was very similar positioning to LH’s earlier pass on Schumacher, there certainly was a gap, but Maldonado shut the door much earlier and more aggressively than Schumacher did. End of. This is fine with me, he can defend how he wants, but it was his risk and there’s no need for the stewards to get involved.

        No problem with a penalty in the Massa case, as it was a little optimistic at Loews and De Resta got one for the same thing, but the stewards are still being trigger-happy in general, as we saw in Malaysia where the penalties on both Alonso and Hamilton were ridiculous. I think these guys just feel they have to do something sometimes, so we know they’re there.

        Let’s face it, at Monaco, ANY pass can be judged ill-advised so they should arguably all just follow each other round and you could put “no overtaking” signs up all around the circuit.

        I agree with those saying it’s a question of philosophy and consistency. Either you want overtaking in F1 or you don’t, and the gap between an OK pass and an avoidable collision is far too narrow at the moment, too arbitrarily judged, not consistently judged and always with the comfortable benefit of hindsight by people in suits – it’s just saying “only have a go when you’re 100.0% certain you can make the pass” and it mitigates against the one thing the sport has been trying to achieve all these years. At Monaco especially – as you saw when Schumacher passed Hamilton – passes are only made when there’s a level of co-operation from the guy being passed. There are still plenty of cases of drivers “closing the stable door after the horse has bolted” but the stewards have a tendency to rule that the quicker guy should have just sat in the queue and not done anything, and it’s never the fault of the guy doing the blocking.

        We need to recognize that sometimes if you put a bunch of guys in a broom cupboard with 700 horsepower each, mix them up and tell them to race, some of them actually will and they won’t always agree. There’s such a thing as a racing incident and I’m personally glad that some drivers, like Hamilton and Schumacher today, are prepared to have a go.

  4. Eggry (@eggry) said on 29th May 2011, 17:46

    If it is effectless penalty, I think it’d rather a penalty for next race.

  5. James Williams said on 29th May 2011, 17:46

    He should have been DSQ. He took someone out. The stewards gave him a penalty therefore he is the one to blame for the accident. Yet he gets off with nothing. Again.

    Some argue that it’s racing, drivers should be encouraged to go for the overtake. But not like that & especially in Monaco.

    He got screwed over in qualifying due to Perez being hospitalised. Then the race gets red flagged as Petrov gets taken to hospital. What will it take to make Mr Hamilton absorb that information into this thick head of his.

    Two drivers in hospital Lewis, was he looking to make it three?

    • David BR said on 29th May 2011, 17:51

      No, he was trying to overtake and nobody was at risk. Calm down, it’s safe to go outside, OK?

    • alpha said on 29th May 2011, 17:55

      He did not take him out. He obviously turn in too early to defend. Lack of experience. All his own fault. Hamilton made a nice move. FIA should not interfere.

      • James Williams said on 29th May 2011, 17:58

        Obviously he did since he was given a 20 second penalty. The stewards decision is the one that’s right at the end of the day. If they say he was to blame, he was to blame.

      • mike77 (@mike77) said on 29th May 2011, 18:00

        he was too far back to overtake – he should have known it was only ever going to end in contact. It was very similar to Barrichello and Rosberg in Australia. What happened there???

    • Gazman said on 29th May 2011, 17:58

      Wow, idiotic statement of the year right there. You make it sound like Hamilton was deliberately trying to cause crashes, do you really think that…really? No driver wants to see others crash because they all know how dangerous the sport is as we’ve seen this weekend, but to take the instinct to go for an overtake away from a driver would be to remove the essence of motor racing.

    • David-A (@david-a) said on 29th May 2011, 18:20

      He should have been DSQ. He took someone out. The stewards gave him a penalty therefore he is the one to blame for the accident. Yet he gets off with nothing. Again.

      Not a Hamfan, but technically, Alonso got off with nothing (even with 20 sec penalty) in Sepang while Hamilton got penalised.

    • slackbladd3r said on 29th May 2011, 18:33

      Oh please. I’m no fan of sore Lewser in general, but “taking someone out” intentionally is a pretty exact science if you don’t want to go down with the driver you’re targeting. As evidenced by today’s race, it takes very little contact for critical parts of the car to break into shards at the same time as driving at those speeds isn’t exactly figure skating. Hamilton may have been the actor here, but only luck saved him from ruining his own race the way he ruined Maldonado’s.

      Hamilton has been punished for his dumb move – and perhaps rightfully so – but to claim that this was anything but a racing situation is just silly. Only in hockey can you aim to actually hurt. ;)

    • Woolfy said on 30th May 2011, 1:52

      Watch the video plz. You’re just a hater. To overtake at Monoco drivers have to be very innovative and that’s what Lewis did. In my books, he’s a class driver and now he’s being punished for it. Lewis did not turn into the other cars, they colided with him, instead, did his best to avoid the oncomming cars. Go lewis go, 100% for giving a show when Pirelli failed the fans.

  6. nick said on 29th May 2011, 17:47

    the whining is working

  7. Manuel said on 29th May 2011, 17:48

    He needs a mini vacation and to come back strong for Canada! It was a nightmare for him. Everything went wrong today. His comments won’t help either.

  8. Hatebreeder (@hatebreeder) said on 29th May 2011, 17:48

    that was an unnecessary overtake.

  9. charlieboy said on 29th May 2011, 17:51

    McLaren simply need to stop putting him in these situations other races it doesn’t show to much but in Monaco its just amplified.

    Everything about the steward, Mclaren and certain drivers defensive skills are just wrong

    • infy (@infy) said on 29th May 2011, 18:07

      1) Dont blame the team for something that the driver could have prevented.

      2) There is nothing wrong with the other drivers defensive skills. The only way Lewis was getting passed was if the other drivers literally pulled over for him.

      3) Stewards were simply being consistent. Thats what we asked for.

      • charlieboy said on 29th May 2011, 18:20

        1) yes drivers have their input but some drivers will mostly take team view because they have more information available

        2) Yes their is you cant simply try to defend a position by turning in on another driver. If Lewis, Rosberg and Schumi can race hard without trying to squeeze people off the track then so can drivers like Maldonado, Massa and Webber for that case.

        3) the only thing steward consistently do is meddle most of the time. Sometimes a racing incident is a racing incident.

        4) Did you want to leave me any other bullet points?

        • infy (@infy) said on 29th May 2011, 18:53

          A bullet point looks like this: •

          • Hatebreeder (@hatebreeder) said on 29th May 2011, 20:22

            @infy: hahaha! =))

            infy is right btw, charlie.

            1) I really doubt mclaren said, “TILL DEATH!” to lewis which made him to go kamikaze.

            2) Monaco is not an overtaking track. Everyone knows that. It’s a track popular for driving as close as possible to the wall. You cant just try a move anywhere on the track and expect it to stick. If that were the case, they wouldnt call monaco a non-overtaking track.

            3) Frankly, I knew lewis would do something like that with only 6 laps of the race remaining. M actually surprised he didnt do the same on kobayashi.

          • Lee said on 30th May 2011, 0:05

            @Hatebreeder

            1) I am not aware he went kamikaze…

            2) Lets ban overtaking at monaco then. Although Schumacher managed to give Hamilton room to in the same place as Maldonado didn’t. Plus Hamilton and Rosberg gave Schumacher room at the hairpin. Basically what the stewards are saying is that it is only a penalty if the driver in front turns in on you… Do you think Schumacher should have got a penalty for his pass on lewis? How about if instead of giving him room, lewis turned in on him, would that have been a penalty?

            3)Lewis is a racing driver and was also astonishingly quick, surely we want to see drivers at least attempting to overtake, otherwise lets scrap Monaco as it would not be a race once qualy is over.

  10. slr said on 29th May 2011, 17:53

    I personally think Hamilton should have been black flagged. Repeat offenders should have more severe penalties.

    • Im guessing you follow the Red Bulls?

      • infy (@infy) said on 29th May 2011, 18:08

        Guess again.

      • slr said on 29th May 2011, 18:13

        Alonso is my favourite driver, though I wouldn’t describe myself as “anti-Hamilton”. I have great respect for Hamilton’s abilities in the car, but today he was awful in my opinion.

        • Nikos said on 29th May 2011, 23:25

          Me too, I really appreciate Lewis but he was too arrogant today!

        • Todfod (@todfod) said on 30th May 2011, 8:53

          Same here. I’m an Alonso fan but I do respect Lewis as a driver. Today, Lewis drove like a hooligan. He expected everyone to just give up their position for him, no one is expected to put up a fight for their position. Overtaking in Monaco is hard, and honestly Lewis never set himself up in a good enough, or legitimate, overtaking position. He expected people to just conceded the fight because he was on supersofts and was lapping quicker.

          I’m actually disappointed about him receiving a useless 20 sec penalty. I think he deserved a black flag for his driving today, or maybe a 10 place grid penalty for Canada.

    • alpha said on 29th May 2011, 18:12

      You have no idea do you? I just don’t understand your mentality.

  11. Xenon2 (@xenon2) said on 29th May 2011, 17:55

    I think Hamilton’s move was legitimate.

  12. Cacarella said on 29th May 2011, 17:57

    I’m guessing at another penalty before Canada.
    I don’t think you’re allowed to bring the sport into disrepute by “Jokingly” accusing the race stewards of racism.

    I might be wrong, but I can see some backlash after the dust settles.

    • georges10099 said on 29th May 2011, 17:58

      i hope nto, maybe theyll just give him a ticking off as otehr people have done stuff like that previously…

    • georges10099 said on 29th May 2011, 17:59

      i hope not, maybe theyll just give him a ticking off as other people have done stuff like that previously…

    • infy (@infy) said on 29th May 2011, 18:09

      Hopefully he is taught a lesson and a precedent is set. Playing the race card is unacceptable.

    • elchinero (@elchinero) said on 29th May 2011, 18:34

      Playing the “race card” is patently offensive … and WAY out of line! I was startled … but not surprised … takes no responsibility for his actions, unless, of course, it is a victory! Quite the sulky fellow, Ham is.

      Perhaps the Japanese, India, Hispanic drivers are experiencing similar bias by white-bread officials … too.

    • Hatebreeder (@hatebreeder) said on 29th May 2011, 20:29

      funny he still hasnt asked for a black member in the stewards team. he will soon, probably.

    • Leon said on 29th May 2011, 22:40

      Interesting debate. And very sad situation developing.

      Perhaps some people who recently became very close to Hamilton are feeding him the classic ‘race oppression’ line he now seems to have adopted. He never seemed to think like that
      before, and the change will damage him if he persists. With a staggering talent such as his, he does not need to play the race card.

    • f1geordie said on 30th May 2011, 1:32

      every driver has horrible weekends and every driver gets caught up in the moment, forget about it and move on.

  13. I know lets just ban overtaking altogether shall we, it too dangerous?????????? A good driver would see him coming and NOT turn in END OF STORY, Hamilton will go for a gap if one appears thats what makes him a great driver to watch.

    This weekend all went wrong for him by stayin in too long in Q3, should have mirrored the competition and got a banker lap in at the beginning, McLaren were trying to be a bit too conservative with the tyres and ultimately set the ball rolling downhill from that point, that said though its just bad luck, the team never knew Perez was going to have an off and bring the red flags out!!!!!

    • infy (@infy) said on 29th May 2011, 18:11

      I know lets just allow drivers to ram into other cars???????????????? Good drivers must see him and then let him passed?!!@?#!?

      This is racing. If every driver simply moved out of the way then it would be qualifying.

  14. alpha said on 29th May 2011, 18:01

    You know what guys. It’s really tough for Hamilton. Lets put ourselves in his shoes. He always gets into penalties but yet he had made the best and the most overtaking maneuvers. It’s a privilege to have him in F1!

  15. Keith Collantine (@keithcollantine) said on 29th May 2011, 18:06

    I’ve not studied the replays over and over, but to me it seems the difference between Hamilton’s pass on Schumacher and Hamilton’s pass on Maldonado was that Maldonado turned in, whereas Schumacher didn’t. But like I say I’ve not fully made my mind up on this one.

    • infy (@infy) said on 29th May 2011, 18:11

      Of course you haven’t.

    • Gazman said on 29th May 2011, 18:13

      It’s becoming a joke now that almost any overtaking move that ends in contact results in a penalty. It’s become the same in supposed “contact” sports such as football where almost every tackle seemingly results in a yellow card. Sometimes there are accidents that come about because of an overtake, it’s not deliberate and is part of the sport, hence the word accident.

      So while Bernie comes up with hair-brained schemes such as artificial rain the so called referee’s punish drivers who try to entertain by racing. It’s something that has to be sorted out otherwise it will force previously loyal F1 to lose interest.

      • MondoL said on 30th May 2011, 9:26

        Being late on a tackle and trashing a leg is an accident. But it’s a yellow card at least.

        Why Ham has so many more “accidents” and punishments that Buton? He takes more chances, he has more “accidents” he is the one usually punished. that’s it.

        And driving is not a “contact” sport

    • Hairs (@hairs) said on 29th May 2011, 18:16

      I think the Maldonado incident was more borderline of Lewis’s two penalised incidents. Massa had nowhere available to go, he was up the inside of Webber at the time, and Lewis tried to make it a 3 car sandwich. The Maldonado pass was borne out of frustration. Yes, a more experienced driver would have given Lewis space (like Schu did). But a more experienced driver would have realised that there was a good chance the rookie wouldn’t give you space, and back out when he saw Pastor turn in (like Button would have).

      Having penalised DiResta and Lewis earlier in the race for similarly over-optimistic moves, the stewards had to rule against him to maintain consistency. Frustrating for Lewis, but if anything, Button should be fuming at his team-mate for bringing out the safety car when he was about to sail away into the distance and win.

      • joseph said on 29th May 2011, 18:29

        The stewards should not have penalised DiResta for that tiny tap. It left them no choice for every other move in the race.

    • alpha said on 29th May 2011, 18:17

      Yeh, a similar pass was made by Schumacher in the first lap at Hair pin. Hamilton was wise enough not to turn into the 7 times champion. The thing is, they are racing drivers, we are talking about the best of the best drivers. Check your blind spot guys.

      I would say Maldonado illegal defense was made. As for Massa. I think its time for him to retired. He is unfit! Look at him, he was so slow and seriously why would you want to ruin antoher decent driver’s race? He out do himselves in the tunnel. If he had let Hamtilton pass at the hair pin, he wouldnt have to crash.

      • joseph said on 29th May 2011, 18:31

        from hamilton’s view its looks like Massa’s job was to stop Hamilton for Alonso’s gain.

        1, pull out of the pits in Q3 in his way
        2, hold him up/crash into him in the race.

        • infy (@infy) said on 29th May 2011, 18:57

          Were you even following the race? Lewis was not racing against Alonso. Massa was racing Lewis.

          • joseph said on 29th May 2011, 19:55

            Do you not follow f1? Alonso and Massa are on the same team, Team Alonso. (see germany 2010)

          • infy (@infy) said on 29th May 2011, 21:00

            Yes but even if Massa didnt get in the way AT ALL, Lewis still would not have been fighting against Alonso for 2nd place.

        • alpha said on 30th May 2011, 10:10

          Actually, since you have said that. It might be true. I mean, look at what Nelson.P did for Alonso back in Renault. And with the “Alonso is faster than you! Do you understand the message?” incident, anything could happen! Thats why they want to keep Massa! You can’t have 2 champions in a team anyway!
          Nice point Joseph.
          We will never know. I believe it is possible for the Qualifying but race, unlikely, Lewis was too far back.

    • David BR said on 29th May 2011, 18:50

      It’s simple really: Massa seldom cedes. And particularly to Hamilton. Compare Hamilton: he seldom risks a collision like this when challenged. For that reason, I’d put this down as a ‘racing incident’ which shouldn’t have been penalized. Meanwhile Massa’s block on Hamilton during quali was blindingly obvious. But we’re indeed drifting to 2008 again – I wonder whether McClaren aren’t aggressive enough in their ‘complaints procedure’ under Whitmarsh.

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