Sebastian Vettel, Red Bull, Montreal, 2011

Rate the race: 2011 Canadian Grand Prix

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What did you think of the Canadian Grand Prix? Rate the race out of ten and leave a comment below:

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  1. Tough call.

    Such a long wait, but well well worth it! I’ll give it an 8. Without the stoppage, would have easily been a 9 or 10.

    1. Same, would have been 10 if it wasn’t 6:40am

      1. just 23:10 here so I’ll give it a 10 :)

        1. it finished at 4am here!

          1. i think its the longest race ever …..but worth the pain

      2. Good point. Guess I have the benefit of being in Canada and it being a midday race here.

        1. same here. 10

          1. SVettel (@)
            13th June 2011, 7:26

            The safety car was out for too long, so I gave it a 9. Other than that, it was very gripping in the last half of the race, after the red flag.

          2. Any race interrupted by safety car after lap 5 can score a maximum of 5 on my scale. This race managed a 4.

          3. McLaren Fan 17
            13th June 2011, 16:56

            @DVC I think that’s a bit harsh.

      3. Great action when there was action, but I don’t understand all the 10/10 marks… unless you also enjoyed the two hours of watching birds and drain covers.

        1. The Channel 10 (Aus) replay cut all of that out with no explanation. We didn’t even see the red flag. It was very confusing.

          1. Well they are useless, I guess that can be there explanation.

        2. Agree, 7/10 for going around in circles behind the safety car is high enough. But I liked the birds.

        3. Safety car definitely out to long, I switched straight to recorded coverage of Silverstone motoGp where they were racing on 2 wheels on a wetter track than than the stewards went round on in Montreal, semi horizontal at 200 K on 2 wheels.

          1. Afraid I’m gonna disagree on that one… Silverstone for the MotoGP was bone dry in comparison… I don’t think Bridgestone or Michelin would’ve wanted their tyres in that much water in Canada… Let alone the untested Pirellis…

            There was a wet day of testing though… Why didn’t the teams use that opportunity to get some laps on the wet tyres??

    2. The end was very, very good. However I sat and watched nothing happen in a pub for what felt like most of the night. I’ll give it a 7, max.

      1. A Full 10. they kept spectators up at 1.20 so they delivered an awesome race. Michael’s awesome drive, Massa’s photo finish, Button from last to first, nick heidfeld’s crash, 2 SLS AMGs, falling marshals, EVERYTHING!

        I just woke up, and I’m still excited! :D

        1. I have got to second you on that and add a few other ( In the words of the great Murray Walker) comings together. And although far from being a schumacher fan i have to take my hat off to him as he was more than entertaining for the majority of the post restart race! Shame lewis crashed out but well done jenson a well deserved and entertaining win!

    3. supernicebob
      12th June 2011, 22:18

      What a super nice race.

      1. Pretty sure I didn’t write that, but I totally agree (apart from the stoppage, but better that then everyone ending up in the barriers).

    4. WOOOOOOAHHH. people are giving this 10?! cmon mclaren fans, don’t rate based on Button winning. or vettel not winning…

      Way too many precautionary laps behind the safety car for red flag restart. dodgy driving down the field. huge red flag period.
      but great strategic win from the back, lots of action, last lap lead change. great race! 8/10.

      not 10 tho, no way!

      1. C’mon guys. I understand that you’re happy with Button winning an unexpected race, but it was nowhere near Turkey this year. For me it was ruined by a DRS zone ridiculously long. They are not passing, they are just swapping places. Button was lucky enough (after the trouble he was involved in, no matter if it was his fault or not) to find himself in the fastest car at the end of a race with the leaders really close by thanks to all the safety cars. All credit to him for pushing it, but all I saw was DRS changes of position (I wouldn’t dare to call it a pass the move he made on Schumacher, and I don’t think Lewis will call it a pass either. He was ahead before they started braking), and a few drivers making mistakes in front of him (Webber, Sebastian).

        All praises to Button for winning it. I think he’s a nice chap and I’m glad for him, but I don’t think this is the best one he drove. It is likely that this is his most surprising win, but I don’t think it was the best one he drove.

        1. BTW, can anybody tell me why McLaren was so fast at the end of the race? I mean Button qualified more than 8 tenths behind Vettel and the conditions at the end of the race were close to those in qualifying (low fuel, supersofts and I don’t think Vettel had pushed them so badly, since we had that many safety cars, and he was comfortably in front for most of the race). Is it just that the circuit had no rubber what made all that difference, did McLaren change anything in their setup during the red flag, or is it that Vettel did not consume as much fuel behind the safety car as Button did (and thus he’d have a heavier car)? Still I don’t get it

          1. Ah, and why did they make so many laps behind safety car after the re-start with the red flag? How many were they 9, 10? I understand the safety issues, but can’t these cars run in wet tracks? I mean, why do they have full-rain tires? To go behind the safety car? If anybody had a full-wet setup, they surely ruined his race!

            What I find most ridiculous is that cars were already coming into the pits to switch their tires to intermediates even before the safety car came in, and Vettel actually did the fastest lap of the race right after the safety car came in. And he did it with full-rain tires. Since they had already put the intermediates before the red flag came out, I believe that the track was not that wet at all (regardless the fuel loads).

            Anyhow, I think they tend to abuse the use of the safety car these days.

          2. I think it’s mostly on the drivers, and partly McLaren’s superior race pace compared to qualifying. Button is incredibly fast on a damp track, while Vettel’s incredible qualifying speed is in large part based on how early he can get on the throttle, which is neutralised on a damp track, since if he tried that he’d spin.

          3. Well, that’s exactly my point. If a team has a better race pace (McLaren, Ferrari…), then you usually see it in the early laps of the race (like Hamilton’s closing on Vettel at the end of the last stint in Australia), but as they start getting low on fuel, conditions get more similar to qualifying, and the advantage comes back to Red Bull. We’ve seen that a few times this year, but today it was surprisingly the opposite.

            McLaren’s seem to struggle in the early part of the race, but were the car to beat in the end, which seems to indicate that they didn’t have a wet setup… so why did they show such a poor performance in the qualification?

            Also, it doesn’t seem to be a tire issue, Vettel stopped 2 laps after Button and he didn’t have to battle his way up the field, so his tires must have been fresher by the end of the race.

            And regarding the conditions of the track, it was certainly not the same as Saturday, but they clearly had a dry line (Schumacher was able to overtake and pull away from Webber while the track was wet, but he did have a hard time during the dry period). I guess you’re right and it’s just that no rubber on the track and colder temperatures suited the McLaren better than the Red Bull. Thanks for the comment!

          4. The answer to your query lies in the Red Flag rules. On Saturday different teams gambled on a wet or dry race for qualifying because of the parc ferme rules. But once you get a red flag you can do anything, McLaren opted for a drier set-up than the others at that point I think.

          5. The only explination for buttons performance is what I have expected for a while now

            The Mclarens are the best at getting the most out of the tyres

            I also expect they run more down force than others and this help warm the tyres

      2. I don’t think you contribute the high ratings to Mclaren fans…. I’d point out what happened to Lewis.

        It was just a very exciting race.

        1. yes but it wsan’t the ‘perfect’ race. (10 means ‘perfect’ don’t forget- see descriptions)

      3. d1sciple (@)
        13th June 2011, 11:09

        I went for a 7 purely due to the over use of the safety car. It didn’t need to be there at the start and certainly could have come in much earlier after the restart. Too H&S conscious, got me so frustrated. Shouldn’t be able to come straight in to the pits for inters after the safety car leaves the circuit, means it was there for too long!

      4. OK McClaren hater. I rated the race a 10 for two reasons. First was the wet start, I felt it was very exciting and had me sitting on the edge of my seat. Second was after the restart, there was a lot of racing excitement: Passing (DRS and non-drs), pit stop strategy, and lots of racing. We weren’t searching to find some position battle, there were lots of them.

        While I’m pleased Vettle didn’t win, that isn’t the big part of my enjoyment and reason for rating the race so high – I enjoyed the race!

    5. Yeah the last couple of laps were amazinggg! However they didnt make up for the un needed start under the safety car, the 2 hour stoppage, and then too many unnecessary laps under the safety car once the race resumed- to the point where people were pitting for inters.

      It was a wicked race but because of those factors I couldnt give it a 10. I think the FIA are lucky that it turned out to be such a blinder because otherwise I think some serious questions would have been asked

      1. I agree was a great race, if wasn’t for the safety car carry on had potential to be one of greatest of them all.

        We were robbed at the start with the safety car with Alonso reportedly wanting to start on intermediates and then couldn’t do because of the way over cautious approach.

        Then later the car stays out until the track is dry enough for inters. Would have loved to see how the drivers would have handled them 8 or 9 laps. Esp how Schumi would have done compared to the top guys!

  2. those last 5 laps or so were amazing.

    looks like bernie’s idea of putting sprinklers on the tracks is a great idea, if were going to get action like that

    1. Unless your going to have most the race behind a safety car because of it.

      Overall fantastic race 9/10 would have been 10/10 but for the two hour or so wait for the real action.

      I know its a tough/risky decision by the race director, but the 2nd safety car made a mockery of the FIA/ Charlie Whiting when as soon as it come in they all switch to inters.

    2. Beuark, you should get a ban ! (just kidding)

      1. Bernie’s idea probably didn’t include this new extremly over cautious approach of bringing the safety car out at every opportunity then staying out until the tracks near dry!!

  3. I’m speechless. Really. 10/10


      1. Yes, and it pretty much lasted only 30 laps or so.

        1. OK, if your take “the race” to mean the last 30 laps, then I would agree, 10/10 easily, fantastic race to watch.

          But that wasn’t it. I rated it 8/10. This goes to show how great I though the end was, because it could easily have been 0: too many safety cars, a 2 hour red flag, these are not enjoyable.

          It cannot (IMHO) get 10/10 because there was far too much time sat in front of the TV, bored, waiting for something to happen.

  4. Well, the race was alright but we have established that DRS is a total farce. Dreadfully easy overtaking

    1. True. DRS denied MSC a podium finish today.

      1. sid_prasher (@)
        12th June 2011, 22:19

        He drove fantastically…but without DRS he wouldn’t have climbed up to 2nd from 12th so quickly either…
        but agree DRS makes it too easy!

        1. MSC’s passes weren’t in the DRS zones.

        2. The DRS only became active after he already was in second.

          As a Schumacher fan I was gutted for him because him losing the places was inevitable. But he put up a great fight today.

        3. MSC still a brilliant driver. He can win if Mercedez can produce a winning car.

          1. Any driver could win if their team can produce a winning car.

        4. d1sciple (@)
          13th June 2011, 11:12

          DRS was deactivated in the wet so he didn’t utilise it.

      2. Superb skill there by the 7 times world champion…

    2. DRS created the end, then Button passed ‘naturally.

      Would you rather a car comfortably 2 seconds per lap quicker was bottled up behind Webber & Schumacher and we missed a proper ending?

      1. DRS created the end

        As in “ruined” it? Yeah.

    3. Massa wouldn’t have passed Kobayashi for 6th by a hair’s width without DRS’ 2nd zone.

      On the other hand, Vettel would not have been under as much pressure without DRS today.

      You win some, you lose some. But I really don’t understand why the DRS zone was as long as it was and then added a 2nd one as well.

      1. I doubt anybody would complain if somebody breezed past Vettel on the straight with DRS to win the GP

      2. Great driving from Michael.

        Im happy allso for his 4th place!

        1. DRS does not equal a guarantee pass on a particular lap. If you notice Webber had a number of chances and could still not pass Schumacher. You still need good grip out of the corner, to be close enough to use the DRS with a good tow, and to have enough skill to still pull the car up in time for the corner. Button was so much faster than anyone else which is why he passed Schumacher so easily. I doubt even with DRS that Button would have passed Vettel (unless he had another 5 laps), as Vettel was only slightly slower when Button had caught him.

          1. Webber had trouble passing Schumacher because he had to go to the wet side of the track the first time he tried to pass, missing his breaking point. Once everything dried out it was another piece of cake for him to pass Schumacher.

            Today DRS was absurdly long. Massa getting just ahead of Kobayashi on the finish line just shows it. I believe Button could have done the same even without DRS (he was over 2 seconds faster than Schumacher at the end of the race), just by taking more risk under braking, and that would have meant a truly epic ride for him. DRS maybe interesting in some tracks like Barcelona (still I consider it unfair), but here it just ruined the spectacle in my opinion. At last we had rain for most of it which allowed for real racing action. I guess it would have been shameful if we had had a dry race. Hamilton’s pass on Vettel for the win in China was class. We saw none of that today, at least not in the last laps.

    4. Agreed. I withheld judgement on DRS at the beginning of the season and kept an open mind. After Melbourne it seemed like a great thing, just an aid as it was intended to be. The more races I see with it though the more I’m really starting to loathe it. Steve Matchett on SPEED had the best nickname for it I’ve hear yet… the Venetian Blinds on the rear wing…

      1. Where was all the love for michael earlyer this year and last year? He had a good race but really if you asked him did he try harder in this race than oz 2011 when he had to retire or one of his “bad” races im sure the answer would be no. Everyone out there gives 100%.

        If you watched him in the races he’s been muggin ppl left right and centre *when* he has had the car to do it. Monaco 2010 alonso on the last lap causing the fia to rewrite the rules? monaco 2011 hamilton at the hairpin first or second lap? not forgetting almost every single race start he’s gotten at least one or two or more cars including his team m8 more often than not. and numerous other brilliant passes i have not mentioned. hamilton webber button and msc have got to have more overtakes than the other twenty cars combined this year.

        So just remember this the next time mercedes rock up to a grandprix with a car that’s not good enough for the name or the drivers.

        1. d1sciple (@)
          13th June 2011, 11:17

          He’s been outpaced by Rosberg CONSTANTLY, that’s why. He’s mugged people he should have been beating but was behind with a faster car (again shown by Rosberg). This race, he was faster, and mighty impressive in the wet. The inconsistency in race pace has been the issue.

          1. Gutted schumi didn’t get a podium though not sure he could have kept Button and Webber behind even without DRS, Webber maybe, unlikely Button.
            We don’t even need kers and DRS gimicks as the tyres are enough now unless its somewhere boring like Barcelona or Bahrain.

    5. bytorr2112 (@)
      21st June 2011, 13:54

      agree 100 % drs and kers should be banned let the best driver win and y cant the driver in front use drs(if their gonna have it)so he cant b passed all this 1 second zone is cobblers

  5. Formula One is the greatest sport in the world.


    1. +1! :D

    2. comment of the day right there

    3. Mark Young (@terry-fabulous)
      12th June 2011, 22:31

      Spot on!!

    4. William Wilgus
      12th June 2011, 22:36

      Yes, but the race was still a Demolition Derby. :(

      1. Yes, you’re right. I’m sick of F1 being exciting, I just want it to go back to the mid 2000s when there was jack all happening -.-

        1. I would like to have back the action going on in the 90s, was great time for F1.

          It would help a lot to bring back some of the classic tracks – Austrian GP, Imola…
          Older tracks are much more fun to look at and I think allso to drive, not that boring new traks looking like airports for Boing 747…

        2. Robert Chandra Ali
          12th June 2011, 23:38


          f1 is brilliant as it is. althought mika vs schumacher was pretty good back then.

          1. *FACE PALM*

    5. You’ve obviously never played roof tennis.

      1. Dan, you’re on top form this weekend! I just laughed! :D

      2. LOL. If we could only get some TV coverage of it, I’m sure it will be the next big thing.

    6. +10/10 :)

    7. d1sciple (@)
      13th June 2011, 11:18

      THE greatest, not one of!!!

  6. WHat an amaziinggg race!!!!!!

    I was so hoping Schumi’s overtake on vettel after the last safetycar was gonna work, to bad he lost his podium, but man o man what a race!

    great overtake for massa on the line to!

  7. Would’ve been a 10 if it wasn’t for the red flag. Utterly awesome.

  8. They made us wait a long time, but my god it was worth it!

    1. I’m very lucky there was a stoppage, I feel asleep after work and woke up just before Schumacher’s charge through the field.

      Brilliant stuff.

  9. I just hope that the stewards don’t mess with the result

    1. +1
      Please let But win this, I am not concerned about the Ham incident but rather about the one with Alonso, even though I would say it was a racing incident…
      The only thing I don´t understand is that if they thought that he was at fault than why not give him a drive-through(the was enough time for it), bc all he could get ´now is a 20sec pen. which would leave him only 5th….

  10. I would have given it a 10, but -1 for the weather :)

    1. Such things like weather are great in making a GP interesting, without it could be maybe just boring like usual…

      Giving 14/10 :-)

  11. 9/10. DRS killed Schumi and Koba and the end :/

    1. True. A negative consequence of DRS, unfortunately, is that if you do not have the raw race pace in your car, you will be mugged via DRS. But, without it Button would not have won, so its swings and roundabouts but the positives justify the technology imo.

  12. What a Finish.. Got to be one of the best finishes I’ve ever seen. And Massa Passes on the last corner at the Stripe! Wow!

  13. Disappointing – 6. The last 10 laps were absolutely brilliant but the amount of overtakes investigated, the complete joke with 10 laps under SC after the red flags – cannot give any more :(

    1. They HAVE to investigate things, it doesn’t mean they are going to do anything about it. It would be grossly irresponsible if they didn’t investigate incidents.

      1. I think 6 is a bit harsh

    2. I voted 10, the race itself was magnificent, though I find it hard to disagree with you – Charlie Whiting needs to resign as his decisions were a mess. The joke of safety car after red flags was just ridiculous. fia would have had tons of negative publicity if the race finish was less scintillating.

      1. Exactly. Just because the last 10 laps were so exciting doesn’t make the whole race a 10. Maybe a 6 is little too harsh but my point here is that the organization of the race was rubbish, the fact that after SC everyone almost immediately went for inters just illustrates that. Where’s that racing of old days when the challenge was in finishing the race not even mentioning the win? Would we have that moment in history when furious Schumi almost beat DC in SPA? Would we have so many wonderful wet races with this new approach? The cars got just safer and I really see no reason why they didn’t allow MS to prove who is the best driver when it’s raining.

        1. Quite right, if motoGp can race in the rain surely F1 can.

          1. For sure safety is important, it improves a lot every year. But its racing, somewhere it has to stop, because in some time for safety reasons shouldnt sit inside the cars, but in the pits racing them with force feedback wheels.. :D

            They shouldnt stop formula one driving on rain… Allso they shouldnt make the thacks that wide like they are, because that lowers the demands to the drivers and makes the races not exciting anymore.

            If they would do it like this, there would be no need to add DRS, and allso there would be no need to make the tires last less to make races attractive to look at…

        2. the fact that after SC everyone almost immediately went for inters just illustrates that

          Couldn’t have said it better myself.

          If it was safe to go racing on inter’s by then, it was safe on wets a LONG time before.

          I agree with the descision to red flag (most of the track was under water… they are racing cars not submarines!) but starting under the SC and the length of SC after the stoppage was rediculous.

  14. Why did I just vote 9?! 10/10! Brilliant! :D

  15. Bazwing5 (@)
    12th June 2011, 22:13

    I went for a big 10. Had too. Just bloody had too. I felt like I’d driven it myself at then end! What an afternoon of quality F1!

    1. I´m with you on that, 10/10 for me too (and I am a Hamilton fan)

  16. DRS didn’t seem to be implemented correctly for Montreal, made certain passes too easy.

    Got an eight from me.

  17. The only thing stopping it being 10 was the big delay, the rest was fantastic. Would have been nice to see Schumi up on the podium too but a great race from him.

  18. great race besides for the rain! really wanted to see kobi or schu on the podium but it wasnt meant to be. great drive by jenson! woulda been something if jenson caught him right at the end like massa n kobi!

  19. Great race because Vettel lose the firts position

  20. Perfect 10.
    Absolutely worth waiting 2 hours of red flag and ornithology commentating.

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