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Rate the race: 2011 European Grand Prix

2011 European Grand PrixPosted on | Author Keith Collantine

What did you think of the European Grand Prix? Rate the race out of ten and leave a comment below:

Rate the 2011 European Grand Prix out of ten

  • 1 (13%)
  • 2 (15%)
  • 3 (16%)
  • 4 (17%)
  • 5 (18%)
  • 6 (15%)
  • 7 (5%)
  • 8 (1%)
  • 9 (0%)
  • 10 (1%)

Total Voters: 541

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230 comments on “Rate the race: 2011 European Grand Prix”

  1. 3/10

    It’s late Sunday night here, I had trouble staying awake.
    Typical Valencia procession.

    1. very dull, its horrible to see brilliant tracks with so much history being endangered to make way for races like this.

      1. Worse than previous years as even the start was boring!
        You used to be able to count on the first few laps to be at least a little interesting.

        1. Actually, the fact that every car finished the race is very telling.

      2. It is F1 problem not track.
        Did you see GP2 here today and yesterday?it was so much fun to see,with very overtaking maneuvers,very actions.

        1. Hi,

          A track can be good for GP2 and not for F1. It’s not exactly the same thing, I think!

          This track is made so that rich people can show off their boats… Rip Monaco off its history, thrilling qualifications, the fact it’s a (real) urban track and the walls so close, but keep the long uneventful races and you get this “Valencia GP”.

      3. Which tracks are endangered?

        It has nothing to do with the quality of the track, more so the money that can be generated.

    2. Please Bernie, it’s time to dispose of this track. Flat as a pancake with banal concrete walls and no racing since it got the race. Plus the fact that Spain already has one GP, a country with no GP heritage.

      1. Bring back Adelaide :)

        1. Never going to happen.

        2. I say bring back Magny Cours! Such a fast track with tricky corners. I’m sick of tracks with slow corners like Valencia.

          1. magny cours sucks as well. The real track in france was clermont ferrand, but that’s like the old nurburgring, so it’s not possible. But paul ricard it’s a better option, close to spain and italy, fast and beautiful racing there. I was there in 1989, and slept at the camping inside. Good memories, that’s for sure. Prost won like he ususally did in france. He had something special at his home race.

          2. Mangy course ?

            No thanks, it sucks the sweat from a dead man’s crotch !

      2. Dear Bernie,

        about that idea of water sprinklers you had laughed out of court a year back……

        I was just wondering…

        …how much would it cost to install at Valencia ?

        1. Probably not very much. Just get some of the people on the boats to slosh buckets of harbour water in the direction of the track.

          1. Now there is a grandiose Idea, they might actually start to enjoy being there!

      3. How do you propose a country earns any racing heritage?

        Typical knee-jerk reaction?

        1. I would suggest that having interesting race tracks that provide good racing should be the place to start….

          Barcelona is a mediocre track that only rarely gives great races… and Valencia… sorry but 4 years and I can only think of 2 exciting moments… and one of those was watching a driver come within a hair’s breath of being killed… which doesn’t count when it comes to making great races.

          1. Good racing is subjective ultimately though, and being subjective doesn’t guarantee you a decent profit on your investment.

          2. Good racing is subjective ultimately though

            Maybe so but bad racing is universal and as you can see from the poll result above and the reaction in these comments this circuit is almost universally hated because it repeatedly produces boring races.

      4. i wouldn’t say no heritage dude. You don’t know what you are talking about.
        Pedralbes in the 50’s montjuit in the 60’s and 70’s, jarama in the 70’s and 80′, jerez in the 80’s and 90’s ,and barcelona and valencia nowadays.
        If that is not heritage tell me what is.

        1. Well said . I won’t comment any further as it then becomes racial , and no point . I only watched the start and up to lap 7 , and realised it would be a sort of procession. But quite a few other tracks can be the same , not just Valencia. I’m thinking that re-fuelling , with it’s obvious dangers , definitely did add an extra excitement to F1 . FIA should look into bringing it back , together with DRS and KERS , may mix strategies up enough to avoid totally processional races.

        2. Fair enough, I didn’t mean to sound confrontational. My bad. But I hope you see my point that testing and two GPs is surely too much for one country in a ‘world championship’, regardless of who it is.

    3. Totally agree with you. They have to drop Valencia. It’s a must. It sucks.

    4. i agree, it was 7 am here in south america. I thought it was me the only one who couldn’t stay awake.
      having some race tracks around the world so great, running in valencia it’s another f1 nonsense. Fota needs to adress that, becuse bernie won’t.

  2. Even Pirelli tyres, DRS and KERS couldn’t save Valencia. Cut it from the calendar, Bernie.Turn it into a go-kart track or something.

    That being said, the midfield, particularly DiResta, Alguesuari and Kobayashi, had some fairly decent action but hardly anything edge of the seat.


    Also slow those Bulls down. Yes, it’s good for them that they’ve got a superbly designed car and F1 is all about innovation as well as skill but it’s not providing a good championship. The team sure are enjoying it but the viewers aren’t, apart from RBR fans. It’s hardly making the championship leader sweat. I want to see Vettel fight, not coast to the chequered flag.

    Hopefully the EBD ban rule at Silverstone will see something drastic happen to them, otherwise their dominance will make the WDC as boring as this race was. Let’s see those RBRs in the wars and lets see more of the Renaults, Mercedes and Ferraris on the podium or winning.

    1. Even Pirelli tyres, DRS and KERS couldn’t save Us from Valencia.
      RBR and Vettel have nothing to do with this, this track sucks. Hats off to the drivers remembering layout at all.(well Maldonado and Petrov almost didn’t)

    2. I dont like that Redbull is dominating all the races, but I dont want the rules changed just so they dont, its not what F1 is about.

    3. I don’t really get it and I guess I will never get use to the idea of slowing down the best performer. It is a sport, the best wins. Why should someone introduce rules to slow them down?? It is like suggesting that Usain Bolt should run barefoot so the others can catch up with him

    4. I don’t think viewers are unhappy at all – most of the races this year have been absolutely sensational. Valencia wasn’t. It’s a shame because there are some really nice flowing corners at Valencia, but the track as a whole has yet to provide a memorable race.

  3. 5/10 Best Valencia Race by far, but According to every other race, a little boring.. Ads Summed it up well; We have been Spoiled in 2011! Even still, i found it interesting to watch for the first half, with a very promising strategy battle heating up.. too bad it petered out into an extremely boring finish

    1. 6 out of 10 for me. It’s a shame that people are going to vote ‘1’s and ‘2’s because that’s a complete over-reaction.

      The ending was really boring, yes, but up until the final stops we had what appeared to be a possible 3-way fight for the win. How often does that happen, let alone around Valencia? Also, we saw a wealth of overtaking through the field thanks to DRS and even outside of the DRS zones. Yes, it was not close to being a classic compared to the unbelievable races we’ve had this year, but this was easily the best race this circuit has produced, thought it would’ve been a lot better if it was closer at the finish.

      I also think that people are suffering from ‘Vettel Burnout Syndrome’ after the utter domination we’ve seen so far this year. I strongly believe that if someone like Alonso or Webber or Hamilton had started on Pole and had won in the fashion Vettel had, this race would’ve been rated a lot higher.

      If the 2008 and 2009 Valencia races were 2 or 3 or 4 out of 10 (and I agree, they were), a 5 for this race is far more accurate in my opinion.

      1. I absolutely agree with Mag.

        1. I absolutely agree with Mag.

          Have you ever disagreed? :P

      2. 6 out of 10 is a good score. 6 to me means a pretty good race but not amazing.

        This race was no where near good.

        We saw one moment of action so 1 is a fair score.

      3. I agree here, for Valencia it was a pretty good race. And the battles throughout the field were nice enough. FOM at least used some of the nice camera angles as well (the wall there :-) ).

        Sure Vettel managed it at the front, but I actually enjoyed myself for all but the middle 10-15 laps, so it was OK, not great.

      4. 6 is too kind. 6 is the kind of race I wouldn’t be too embarrassed to introduce my non-petrolhead friends to f1 through.

      5. Yer I gave it a 7 but I completely agree with everything you’ve said Mag

        1. Me too, it wasn’t really that bad. Last year we’d have been raving about this race. I think Mag is right that people are suffering from Vettel burnout.

      6. I also think that people are suffering from ‘Vettel Burnout Syndrome’ after the utter domination we’ve seen so far this year.

        That coupled with the fact we’ve had an amazing run of fantastic races. Anything less than a classic is boring in the opinion of some.

      7. A British driver winning is a guaranteed 2 points improvement in the voting here.

        Can’t disagree with most people’s assessment of this race though. A 5 is generous, and I can’t believe that we have to put up with at least another 3 years at this circuit. I’m hoping that rumour of them defaulting on the payments earlier this year is true, Valencia can join a long line of F1 tracks which never should have happened.

        1. UKfanatic (@)
          28th June 2011, 0:25

          you right Toro Stevo about everything, I just think that valencia highlights all about the season including the rules problems

      8. i disagree. that race earned its 2. believe me, absolutely zero viewers were converted into fans today, and a couple more like that will drive fans away. i watch every race multiple times, but i won’t be revisiting this – i nearly turned it off halfway through. fall asleep? sure. turn of a grand prix? unthinkable!

      9. Agree with you man. Valencia wasn’t all that bad, infact it was as interesting as the Australian GP this year. I think its a combination of the Vettel win and Mclaren failure that made so many people vote 0 and 1s.

        This was probably the best Valencia GP I’ve seen, and I scored it a 6

      10. as with everyone else, i agree!

        my choice of rating it a 6 is also associated with the scores of the other races. For example i rated Australia about a 7.. it’d be unfair to rate this a 2

      11. @Mag, maybe that’s because you watched it live, not on tape delay on Speed. I got no enjoyment from the race but I scored it ‘2’ because a worse race is marginally possible, e.g. with 90% of laps under the safety car.

        1. We’re halfway through the Fox races, only 2 more and they’ll be back on Speed.

    2. My thoughts exactly and my score too.

      1. 5/10
        There were so many duels ready to entertain us, like Buemi vs Di Resta vs Kobayashi vs Petrov, but even if they were all very close the action was very limited and the only overtakes we saw were due to drivers having older/harder tyres. Drivers followed their rivals for laps before trying to pass them at the end of one of the two DRS zones, and seldom did we see a nice manoeuvre.

        1. Yeh like Scumacher fighting Maldonado for seventeenth.
          Where are all those guy’s raving about Schu?
          and Rosberg seventh!.
          There was something missing from todays race,
          I know it was the safety car.

      2. Mag, you’ve said it all. I also gave it a 6.

  4. Worst F1 2011 race, but the best Valencia race so far.

    1. yeah good point …. so pireli bring back old spec tires

      1. No, just remove Valencia.

        1. @sato I think he meant the softer Pireli tyres that have been replaced…. At least I hope so. Bridgestone…. *shudders*

          It is F1, but I didn’t sit through every lap like I did Canada. I was far from glued. I can’t say I particularly enjoyed the race, it was all a bit meh.

      2. uh what? that’d make it even worse. i think the super softs should have been brought to valencia instead of the softs.

        1. the tracks rubbish for racing- never been a good race there

    2. yeah i agree, personally i think it is the racing track, it is such a poor layout

    3. Agree best Valencia but worst race of the season!

  5. poor race…

  6. woThis is a sports car track not a F1 track it really needs to be removed from the calendar

  7. Tedious. So Tedious. Clearly no amount of gimmicks can redeem this utter bore of a venue.


  8. I’m comparing it to the other races of the 2011 Season. If I gave Canada a 9/10 then this has to be a 1/10.

    Terrible race. Terrible circuit.

    Want to improve the show? Never race at Valencia again.

    1. Maybe a little harsh! :P But I agree, the sooner we drop this awful track, the better.

      1. Nice to drive in videogames, for me at least, but the show entertainment has been little in four years. Enough of this track.

        1. it is kinda fun to hotlap in F12010!

    2. its not the track….. its the tires

      1. d1sciple (@)
        26th June 2011, 14:53

        It’s the track! The tyres were dropping off in performance but the problem was just the lack of action due to the boring circuit style.

        1. yeah and there are no epic corner sequences or elevation in the track. the cars are hardly ever challenged.

      2. its not the track….. its the tires

        its not the track tires….. its the tires track

    3. I just realized why the race was boring. The RBR was just perfect with engine reliability and aero. And I know what you would help. A new rule that allows you to choose either an aero upgrade or a reliable engine. and then the team is given like 3 bad engines of the 8 n aren’t told which ones are bad. So every engine chosen is a gamble.

      1. hhhmm not too sure about tht

      2. Yeah…No, thats not what F1 is about.

        1. :P No actually I said that because last year the championship was so exciting because vettel had engine failures n stuff. and they are like really reliable this year. so i was thinking. M not saying they should really do that this year. :P

    4. If you go by that, never race at Catalunya again either, but I dont have a problem with that, I dont like either Spanish circuit.

  9. Almost no difference in strategy meant we didn’t get the late lap time differences and hope of late overtakes that we’ve had earlier in the year. Still, Alonso put up a fight but Vettel was supreme. I give it 5, an average race, but an average F1 race still beats watching most other sports!

  10. 6. Not bad by Valencia’s standards, but another anti-climax. The championship situation is more worrying, though.

  11. Boooooooring. Hardly any meaningful overtakes.

  12. By this year’s standards this was pretty dull, but lets be honest in any other season this would have been a decent race, so I gave it a 7. I was kept interested all the way through, I think this race goes to show even when we don’t have much overtaking in a race we the tyres and multiple pit stops are enough to keep it interesting.

    1. Exactly. I wouldn’t say I was kept interested for the whole race, but I was on the edge of my seat up until about 10 laps from the end.

      1. To quote @vee8‘s twitter feed

        I’m on the edge of my seat. But only because I slumped a bit when I fell asleep

        1. That’s just exaggeration. How was this worse than a lot of the races we had last year?

  13. Gave it a 1. I pretty much wasted a good bit of my sleep just to see probably the most boring race of my life. Sure hope they cut this track soon because its just a waste of time.

    1. d1sciple (@)
      26th June 2011, 14:55

      Bahrain last year was worse.

      1. Then good thing I missed that race by accident. I feel so horrible now, missing a big chunk of my sleep just to watch this painfully boring race.

    2. yeah this was very boring but some races last year were even worse

    3. I was not excited even when Alonso overtook Webber, the DRS passes can be forseen two laps earlier.

    4. there have been by far worst races than that

  14. 3/10. Awful. It’s a shame races like these count as much as the one in Canada.

  15. 2 balls domenicali go home!

  16. Boring..boring..boring

  17. I painted my garden wall just before the start of the race…

  18. Drop this race and keep turkey on the calendar, have 19 good races next year and Bahrain.

    1. I guess you mean “and drop Bahrain”?

      1. no meant drop this one and bring the calendar down to 20 races, we know that Bahrain will be on next year and it will be as dull as ever

  19. Solid 6, managed to keep me interested.

  20. 3/10

    Pretty boring overall. I have my theories as to why. I’ll put them into a guest article soon.

    1. Good, looking forward to that PM.
      IMHO 3/10 is a bit lower than it deserved, but on the other hand 2011 has certainly raised the bar for what we expect of a race.

      1. Well, here’s hoping Keith publishes it. The basic premise is that Valencia has twice as many traction zones – areas of the circuit where the driver is accelerating hard out of a slow corner – as other circuits. Montreal has just four of them; Valencia has eight. So what I tried to do is address this problem by suggesting an alternative configuration for the circuit that cuts half of these traction zones out. It’s actually pretty radical and calls for the organisers to convert the circuit into a figure-eight design by way of a temporary bridge.

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