Sebastian Vettel, Red Bull, Silverstone, 2011

Vettel fastest as practice ends in Silverstone

2011 British Grand Prix FP3Posted on | Author Keith Collantine

Sebastian Vettel, Red Bull, Silverstone, 2011
Sebastian Vettel, Red Bull, Silverstone, 2011

Sebastian Vettel edged Fernando Alonso for the fastest time in final practice at Silverstone.

The session was run in largely dry conditions, though a shower early in the session disrupted some of the teams’ running.

Having lost most of yesterday’s practice to rain, the teams took the opportunity to get as much running as possible on the hard tyres early in the session.

Michael Schumacher held the fastest time early on, but lost time with a floor problem later in the session.

The times tumbled as teams switched to the soft tyres for qualifying runs at the end of the session. Alonso lowered the best time of the day by a second with a 1’31.464.

But Vettel found six hundredths more to put the Red Bull at the head of the times once again.

Mark Webber was third-fastest despite losing a significant amount of the session with a technical problem.

Jenson Button was the fastest McLaren behind Felipe Massa and Pastor Maldonado.

Team mate Lewis Hamilton, running the team’s new rear wing, could only manage 13th.

The session ran as a storm brewed over the use of exhaust-fed diffusers. Overnight Charlie Whiting changed his position on the technology, and removed Renault’s allowance to use more than 10% of the throttle to feed the diffuser.

The change will affect all the Renault-powered teams, and Red Bull’s Christian Horner and Adrian Newey spent much of session at race control debating the change.

Pos. Car Driver Car Best lap Gap
1 1 Sebastian Vettel Red Bull-Renault 1’31.401 19
2 5 Fernando Alonso Ferrari 1’31.464 0.063 20
3 2 Mark Webber Red Bull-Renault 1’31.829 0.428 12
4 6 Felipe Massa Ferrari 1’32.169 0.768 20
5 12 Pastor Maldonado Williams-Cosworth 1’32.496 1.095 20
6 4 Jenson Button McLaren-Mercedes 1’32.956 1.555 18
7 16 Kamui Kobayashi Sauber-Ferrari 1’33.014 1.613 20
8 8 Nico Rosberg Mercedes 1’33.044 1.643 23
9 17 Sergio Perez Sauber-Ferrari 1’33.264 1.863 21
10 15 Paul di Resta Force India-Mercedes 1’33.423 2.022 22
11 7 Michael Schumacher Mercedes 1’33.551 2.150 11
12 14 Adrian Sutil Force India-Mercedes 1’33.660 2.259 22
13 3 Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 1’33.842 2.441 16
14 11 Rubens Barrichello Williams-Cosworth 1’33.905 2.504 21
15 10 Vitaly Petrov Renault 1’34.042 2.641 22
16 19 Jaime Alguersuari Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1’34.329 2.928 20
17 18 Sebastien Buemi Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1’34.799 3.398 20
18 9 Nick Heidfeld Renault 1’34.822 3.421 21
19 20 Heikki Kovalainen Lotus-Renault 1’35.255 3.854 21
20 21 Jarno Trulli Lotus-Renault 1’36.905 5.504 21
21 24 Timo Glock Virgin-Cosworth 1’37.614 6.213 18
22 25 Jerome D’Ambrosio Virgin-Cosworth 1’38.068 6.667 20
23 22 Daniel Ricciardo HRT-Cosworth 1’38.289 6.888 19
24 23 Vitantonio Liuzzi HRT-Cosworth 1’38.568 7.167 17

Combined practice times

Pos Driver Car FP1 FP2 FP3 Total laps
1 Sebastian Vettel Red Bull-Renault 1’48.794 1’54.545 1’31.401 44
2 Fernando Alonso Ferrari 1’48.161 1’52.869 1’31.464 44
3 Mark Webber Red Bull-Renault 1’46.603 1’52.587 1’31.829 37
4 Felipe Massa Ferrari 1’47.562 1’49.967 1’32.169 42
5 Pastor Maldonado Williams-Cosworth 1’48.809 1’55.155 1’32.496 45
6 Jenson Button McLaren-Mercedes 1’48.841 1’51.518 1’32.956 47
7 Kamui Kobayashi Sauber-Ferrari 1’50.133 1’51.395 1’33.014 53
8 Nico Rosberg Mercedes 1’47.758 1’50.744 1’33.044 62
9 Sergio Perez Sauber-Ferrari 1’47.422 1’52.169 1’33.264 55
10 Paul di Resta Force India-Mercedes 1’48.730 1’51.781 1’33.423 47
11 Michael Schumacher Mercedes 1’47.263 1’52.325 1’33.551 43
12 Adrian Sutil Force India-Mercedes 1’51.738 1’33.660 40
13 Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 1’48.549 1’51.438 1’33.842 43
14 Rubens Barrichello Williams-Cosworth 1’47.347 1’51.992 1’33.905 57
15 Vitaly Petrov Renault 1’49.603 1’52.198 1’34.042 46
16 Jaime Alguersuari Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1’48.678 1’54.274 1’34.329 58
17 Sebastien Buemi Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1’48.778 1’52.189 1’34.799 59
18 Nick Heidfeld Renault 1’48.941 1’54.023 1’34.822 49
19 Heikki Kovalainen Lotus-Renault 1’52.578 1’35.255 37
20 Jarno Trulli Lotus-Renault 1’50.222 1’55.155 1’36.905 47
21 Timo Glock Virgin-Cosworth 1’52.470 1’55.549 1’37.614 45
22 Jerome d’Ambrosio Virgin-Cosworth 1’53.469 1’54.714 1’38.068 59
23 Daniel Ricciardo HRT-Cosworth 1’54.334 1’55.828 1’38.289 53
24 Vitantonio Liuzzi HRT-Cosworth 1’53.143 1’56.037 1’38.568 43
25 Nico Hulkenberg Force India-Mercedes 1’48.598 19
26 Karun Chandhok Lotus-Renault 1’51.119 17

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37 comments on “Vettel fastest as practice ends in Silverstone”

  1. So why is there different rulse for each engine, surely there should just be a blanket ban on all off throttle activities, so that no loophole can be exploited?

    1. because of reliability issue. engine manufacturers are using different kinds of method for reliability especially cooling. Renault said they used 50% cold blow in 2009 without blown diffuser. strict ban is easy but if there’s some engine failures, things would be much complicated.

      1. fullthrottle
        9th July 2011, 12:04

        Overnight Charlie Whiting changed his position on the technology, and removed Renault’s allowance to use more than 10% of the throttle to feed the diffuser.

  2. Team mate Lewis Hamilton, running the team’s new rear wing, could only manage 12th.

    You mean 13th, I guess?

    1. Indeed!

  3. All the fuss by Red Bull, Vettel is still going to take pole.

    1. Is there any chance of rain tomorrow? Or forecast saying its going to be dry?

    2. Yes – but you wouldn’t expect Maldonado to be so high, as the Saubers, and Hamilton so low. The battle could be great anyway.

  4. Whoah! It seems like we would have first pole position battle of the season!

    1. and Ricciardo is faster than Liuzzi!

    2. Sepang had a great pole position battle

      1. oh sorry I forgot it. the second :D

        1. Might be the first time this year someone other than KERS beats Seb in qualy :)

  5. Petrov and Heidfeld are both pathetic. My god, so pathetic.

    1. Looks like Sauber and Williams will be faster than Renault now…..

      1. their aero set up is ruined

  6. Any particular reason McLaren was so slow?

  7. Any particular reason McLaren is so slow?

    1. Younger Hamii
      9th July 2011, 11:27

      Maybe doing High Fuel Runs but its pretty strange and worrying that they’re doing that in FP3(meaning you would normally do Qualifying Runs in FP3 and Race Trims in FP1 and FP2) but with the Track being Wet and typical British Weather coming into play yesterday,that probably would explain things

    2. As a natural pesimist i’d imagine they have been hit the hardest by the off throttle blown diffueser restrictions. They seem to be showing similar pace to what they showed in testing so i’d of thought that all along they had a bad car, that was made acceptable by the blown diffuser setup they were using.

      1. I admire your pessimism, but I think it is wrong to compare with the testing.

        Then, McLaren were fiddling with an unreliable system, not running to see how the car performed, more often than not.

        They might have been unsure how their car would go when they actually got it to run more than 10 laps, but they weren’t bogged down like Mercedes, hiding that apart from cooling they also again didn’t get the car.

        Let’s not forget either that Ferrari in testing were consistently showing their speed and reliability but unaware they learned little about where their car would have more trouble, while Red Bull was shown just how much they had in hand over them.

        And how good Williams seemed to be working, if their KERS didn’t explode. So in the end the testing speed doesn’t mean all that much.

  8. streetfighterman
    9th July 2011, 11:26

    When you deny a manufacturer their request to make the necessary changes to able to handle this rule change because it’s a reliability concern in a map they’ve run for a long time, and they have to adapt to that within weeks, and then make this rule change and over night change your position on the dispension… It smells bad.
    And when Merc get to fire on the overrun..
    This is just ridiculous. FIA is a joke.

    1. Both should not be allowed.

      1. Prove to me that Mercedes do not need the cocnessions granted.

    2. I’m reading your argument, and I’m seeing one major assumption that basically invalidates the whole thing. You’re assuming that Mercedes and Renault applied for and were given the same concessions by the FIA. They weren’t. Mercedes might get to fire on the over-run, but that does not mean that Renault ever asked to do the same thing.

      The thing about an engine is that it has a lot of moving parts. And the more moving parts a machine has, the more parts there are that can break. We know Mercedes’ issue relates to pressure within the crank case, but we don’t know what Renault’s issue is. And until we do, we can’t really pass judgement. For all we know, Renault’s reliability issues are only really a problem over extended periods of engine wear, or occur under highly-specific conditions and that the engines could actually be reasonably expected to run normally with 10% of the throttle without fault.

      Remember, the teams are heavily reliant on the OTBD to generate downforce. They’re not going to give that up willingly. They will go over the rules with a fine-toothed comb, looking for loopholes they can exploit. You call the FIA’s actions shady, but you know as well as I do that the teams will take whatever advantage they think will help them, even if it means racing in a grey area. How many times have we seen teams do this in the past?

      You’re assuming the FIA is guilty of tampering with the race outcome simply because they changed a rule. But they don’t just make these decisions on a whim; Charlie Whiting doesn’t spin a chocolate wheel to see who is going to take a penalty of some kind. The FIA evidently has good reasons for what they are doing, but we don’t know what those reasons are – and we probably won’t until such time as the dispute is resolved. So I ask you: where is your evidence that the FIA is trying to manipulate things? Unless you can show me that a) Renault absolutely need to run at 50% throttle or else their engines will spontaneously combust and b) the FIA knew this and revoked their concessions (for whatever reason) regardless of a), you haven’t got a leg to stand on.

  9. This exhaust fed rubbish is screaming boycott to me. I already find it unacceptable that the rules have been changed mid-season and now because of the effect this rule change will have, we have different rules for different teams. Absolute rubbish! This is no way to manage a sport! you cannot change rules half way through a race weekend.

    1. anyone remember fan cars? this kind of stuff has happened before, and will happen again

    2. I agree, there’s no safety issue here and everybody has enjoyed the season so far. Changing this halfway through the season is madness! What’s the point of outlawing mid-season testing then moving the goalposts mid-season?

      1. Not sure ‘everybody’ has enjoyed the season so far…lots of people don’t like to see one driver win all the time and run away with it unchallenged, and lots of people have a vested interest in not seeing the WDC decided with four races to go.

        I’ll not go so far as to cry conspiracy, and as Prisoner Monkeys has asked for, I don’t have proof, but because it does seem like madness to move the goalposts mid-season when testing has been banned, and because they have evolved F1 to using intentionally crafted tires that degrade quickly, moveable wings, and BE would love to have sprinklers at every venue, and given F1’s constant inconsistancy, is it so alarming to see this behaviour by F1/FIA?

    3. I already find it unacceptable that the rules have been changed mid-season and now because of the effect this rule change will have, we have different rules for different teams. Absolute rubbish!

      Where is your evidence that Mercedes do not need the concessions granted?

      1. PM I don’t need reasons, one championship, one rule! You missed the point, why does the rule HAVE to change and WHY now? Charlies decisions are generally agreeable, but this one reeks of influence.

  10. do we have the straight line speeds?

  11. Damn it, forgot predictions again!!! Anyway, imagine the uproar if the F-duct had been banned half way through 2010? To me that’s basically the same as the off throttle rule change in 2011. If the F-duct had been banned there would have been a huge outcry. People would have said that it was unfair in the extreme to ban the F-duct and penalise McLaren for being clever.

    I would agree.

    However Renault come up with the off throttle idea, build a car to specifically exploit it (however you feel about it’s effectiveness) then it gets banned for no apparent reason (at least none I’ve read) and then on top of that the rule gets changed again with little or no warning?

    This is crap. If the FIA let double diffusers through for two years despite very legitimate questions about their legality AND let the F-ducts run their course throughout 2010 despite the questions over them possibly being moveable aero devices then the precedents are there to have allowed the off throttle maps to remain in place throughout 2011.

    Sort it out idiots, or else we’ll be starting a campaign for Keith to be the next FIA president!!!

  12. The practise sessions make it hard to be confident of qualifying times, especially this weekend. Definitely gonna be an RB7 on pole though!

  13. So PM, hasn’t taken Ricciardo long to get going ;)

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