Sebastian Vettel, Red Bull, Spa-Francorchamps, 2011

2011 Belgian Grand Prix grid

2011 Belgian Grand Prix

Row 1 1. Sebastian Vettel 1’48.298
Red Bull-Renault
2. Lewis Hamilton 1’48.73
Row 2 3. Mark Webber 1’49.376
Red Bull-Renault
4. Felipe Massa 1’50.256
Row 3 5. Nico Rosberg 1’50.552
6. Jaime Alguersuari 1’50.773
Toro Rosso
Row 4 7. Bruno Senna 1’51.121
8. Fernando Alonso 1’51.251
Row 5 9. Sergio Perez 1’51.374
10. Vitaly Petrov 1’52.303
Row 6 11. Sebastien Buemi 2’04.692
Toro Rosso-Ferrari
12. Kamui Kobayashi 2’04.757
Row 7 13. Jenson Button 2’05.150
14. Rubens Barrichello 2’07.349
Row 8 15. Adrian Sutil 2’07.777
Force India-Mercedes
16. Heikki Kovalainen 2’08.353
Row 9 17. Paul di Resta 2’07.758
Force India-Mercedes
18. Jarno Trulli 2’08.773
Row 10 19. Timo Glock 2’09.566
20. Jerome D’Ambrosio 2’11.601
Row 11 21. Pastor Maldonado* 2’08.106
22. Vitantonio Liuzzi 2’11.616
Row 12 23. Daniel Ricciardo 2’13.077
24. Michael Schumacher No time

*Five-place grid penalty for hitting Lewis Hamilton

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          1. As Maldonado was driving up behind Hamilton, he then turned out from behind Hamilton, he (Hamilton) swerved towards Maldonado, Maldonado then drove straight and into Hamilton. I believe Hamilton set Maldonado off by doing what he did so I think Hamilton deserves a penalty as well.

        1. Have you seen the same coverage as we did? When Hamilton passed Maldonado in the first place his nose was already ahead on the way into the corner and Maldonado left the door wide open. I first thought he want to let Hamilton through but than he turned in as if he where alone on the track. I would bann him for that revenge move for at least a few races.

        2. TFLB – I hope you have more info than the rest of us, because it looked to me like MAL messed up in the final chicane and so HAM overtook him (with a little ‘nudge’ but you’d get away with it during the race, so why not quali?). Later, MAL looked for all the world as though he overtook HAM *just* to drive into him…a move which would get you black flagged in the race.

          I’ll be interested to see the stewards view on this because they obviously have more information (including interviews with the drivers), but I can’t see a reason why HAM will be penalised.

          Although…as I’ve said before, I’m a HAM fan, so maybe I’m a bit biased even when I try not to be.

          1. From where I was sitting the session was over and Ham was cruising back to base when Maldonado surprised him by coming up fast behind him, Ham jinked left and as he corrected to straighten up Mal came past and swerved towards Ham resulting in the collision. Whether Maldonado intended contact or just wanted to cut Ham off I don’t know but as the car passing after racing finished he should have kept clear. A pity, I have been impressed with Maldonado but being a hot-blooded latino is no excuse .

    1. Yeah, but both Ferraris will probably suffer off the line.

      With the GP2 race today all even cars off the racing line massively suffered from starting on wet tarmac while there was a dry line on the other side of the grid. And Ferrari being slow on getting heat in their tyres will mean its 2 fold for them.

      1. First time in 17 years we got a Senna in the top ten of F1.
        Btw I also don’t think he doesn’t deserve to be there. Best option for Renault would be Heidfeld & Senna. Petrow is the one who doesn’t deserve it. But sadly Renault need that Lada money…

        1. I agree, Petrov got his podium in Australia and then since then he consistently finished behind Heidfeld. He may continue to be beaten by his teammate, this time in the form of Bruno Senna.

  1. Congratulations to Vettel, he did a fantastic job in a circuit, which isn’t perfectly suited to RB7. Algersuari was incredible and Senna too did a great job outqualifying Petrov, Alonso wasn’t shining today though.

      1. i think it was pretty obvious from the offboard footage. There’s no room for anything like that in any sport, let alone F1 where his actions put lives of his competitors and spectators in danger. I would remove his Super license.

        1. I’m a Hamilton fan, have defended him here in many occasions, but I didn’t like the way he also suddenly turned when Maldonado was to overtake him. This was immediately before Maldonado turned in on him. Of course Hamilton should have a much smaller punishment, like starting on the end of the grid, because what Maldonado did was endangering both their lives. Hamilton tried to give him a “scare”, or something. Childish from both, but Maldonado went beyond it.

          1. lubhz – that video looks pretty conclusive, doesn’t it? MAL went left while the track was going right. Seems to either assume HAM is going to stop or there’s going to be a collision.

            There was LOADS of track room for him to continue without turning towards HAM.

            HOWEVER…just seen the ‘flick’ by HAM and don’t know why he did that. But it looks as thought he moved right then changed his mind when he saw MAL – the change of mind makes the move look more severe than it could have….


  2. Disgusted with Maldonado’s Move on Lewis,Very Very Dangerous regardless of the Speed a F1 Car,that has 2.4Ltire V8 Engines and can go up to 200 MPH or even beyond that.Clearly Immature & unnecessary.

    He Deserves a Race Ban for that incident or at least a 10 Grid Penault,Demoting him to the Back.

  3. Another monumental cock-up by McLaren! When will they learn that on a drying track you have to be the last over the line in order to be fastest. Once again McLaren are costing themselves points through strategic and mechanical errors. Both drivers have made mistakes this season, but that does not compare to the losses caused by the team errors. Poor show.

    On a lighter note, Senna!

  4. I know I’m going to be flamed for this, but
    The incident between Maldonado and Hamilton, to say that Hamilton wasn’t at least partially at fault is wrong.

    Both drivers were on in-laps, as the session finished, Maldonado was ahead on track at that point, there was no reason for Hamilton to cross the track towards Maldonado.

    Hamilton also did that flick before the incident, which is very unsporting and dangerous as well.

    What’s clear is that Hamilton still thinks that it’s always the other guy’s fault.

    1. Completely agree with you here.

      What others also forget is that the track goes left there and maldonado couldn’t keep going straight on or he’d be in the concrete wall.

    2. Im sorry, but you are wrong. The “flick”, was Hamilton taking the racing line, before noticing Maldonado was being overly racy for an in lap and moving out the way. Then Maldonado swiped across Hamilton deliberately! simple as that, and Maldonado should get at least a 3 race ban.

    3. Both drivers were on in-laps, as the session finished, Maldonado was ahead on track at that point

      Hamilton, having (rightfully) passed Maldonado at the end of his hotlap. was ahead coming out of La Source on the in-lap. Maldonado re-overtook Hamilton, snd made the contact. Haven’t seen onboards yet, but it looks so far as if either Pastor can’t control his car or his emotions.

      Don’t even know why he should be so angry at Hamilton. It was Kovalainen holding up both Williams’.

      1. When Jean Todt was elected President, that’s when. One of his big policies was reforming the stewards. So while the penalties handed out might seem inconsistent over the past few years, you can only really backdate it all to the point where Todt took power and introduced the policy.

    1. You can’t just say “Oh, we’ll go easy on you because three cars qualified outside 107% and we want as many cars as possible to take part”. When Stefan Mucke deliberately crashed into Richard Westbrook at the RAC Tourist Trophy this year – under similar circumstances; it was retaliation for another incident – he took a ten-place grid penalty and was in danger of losing his racing licence.

        1. I think losing his racing licence completely would be a bit harsh. I’d say a two-race ban would teach him the lesson he needs to learn.

          And I wouldn’t be surprised if Frank Williams pulled him out of the car for Monza if the FIA don’t.

    2. Matty,

      Can see your point, but *if* it was deliberate then by NOT taking him off the grid, you’re saying that taking revenge at 100mph+ is ok…not a good example to set.

      So the choice is to punish him severely to teach him and set and example, or accept deliberate accidents.

      Of course…when the stewards have all the facts they may see it as 50/50 but I can’t help draw a conclusion from the reaction of both Brundle and Coulthard in commentary – they both seemed to think it was intentional

  5. It’s safe to say Maldonado is at fault here.

    As I see it, Hamilton leaves La Source, and proceeds to take the normal racing line (which explains his movement right, he then swerves left to AVOID Maldonado), Maldonado clearly then cuts across Hamilton!

    I think Hamilton should receive no punishment, but Maldonado should be disqualified for this race. He has made himself, the sport, and motor-racing in general look bad, aswell as put others into danger and the added cost of repairing both cars.

    He should be ashamed of himself.

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